[Es2] new project scope (long) -need feedback
pcschulz at comcast.net
Wed Mar 10 09:39:35 EST 2004
Since I HAVE an S2 engine, pretty complete, with attached downpipe , I'll
take and post as many pictures as I can...
prolly to audiworld or my comcast homepage.
Engine is _still_ sitting on a pallet, so I can get pretty good views
any particular requests?
>A couple of things:
>I found it easiest to run the harness through a new hole just under where
>the battery used to reside. I also mounted the 3B ecu behind the evaporator,
>exactly where the 7A unit was. The harness is looooong so you'll still have
>some snaking around to do behind the engine.
>I opted to stick with the CQ's clutch, flywheel and pressure plate. We'll
>see how it holds up. I have a feeling that the clutch will outlast the
>I know money is always a factor, but if you can find the things like an S2
>downpipe, intake piping and upper rad hose (to list a few) it will make your
>swap a whole lot easier. There are far more uniquely S2 parts required than
>you might think to make everything work out. I'm still finding this out and
>I'm near the end of my conversion! For example, the S2 locates the wastegate
>frequency valve in a different position than on the 200 just to clear the
>headlight/hood lock. There are many situations you'll come accross where
>either an S2 part or some custom fabbing is required.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Rick Houck" <rhouck at neo.rr.com>
>To: <es2 at audifans.com>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2004 8:31 PM
>Subject: [Es2] new project scope (long) -need feedback
> > Hey guys,
> > Now that I have read the complete archives (end to beginning-head still
> > spinning) I see that there are several combinations of chassis,
> > transmissions , engines, and performance goals on your projects. Since I
> > want to install my own stock '91 200tq 3B engine into my low mileage coupe
> > chassis, it would appear that my new spare time project is the easiest(?),
> > cheapest, and least potent of them all.
> > As background, I have already done a 10vt conversion for my track coupe,
> > I have some background, and I know the power boost is what these cars
> > My 3B came from the car I rolled, and we drove the car from 62k to 119k
> > before the mishap. The engine ran fine and I plan to use it as is. The TB
> > and water pump are about 15k old. I have taken off all the intake and
> > exhaust components for blasting and cleaning, and new gaskets. I even had
> > the cam cover powder coated red for fun. I went ahead and installed new
> > seal, pan gasket, cam cover gasket, and any of the hoses and sensors that
> > are not easy to get at after installation. I also just installed the metal
> > cam gear, so I hope it is ready for the next 50 to 60k miles without many
> > problems.
> > Since this is to be a nice street car, I believe I will be satisfied with
> > the performance of the stock engine in the lighter car. A chip is the only
> > enhancement I can anticipate at this time. Keeping my costs down is a
> > objective, and I don't mind making or adapting some of the items needed,
> > such as front cross member and intercooler plumbing. I pulled the 3B
> > myself along with all the harnesses I thought I might need. The coupe dash
> > and drive train are out, and just waiting for the battery box removal. All
> > cv joints are repacked and re-booted. I have new seals at each drive hub,
> > and new input shaft seal.
> > Here is my plan so far, making the best use of money as the project
> > progresses:
> > 1: Decide on flywheel/clutch and assemble tranny to engine.
> > 2: Install proper AC line in engine compartment for future use.
> > 3: Stick with stock CQ alternator/AC locations.
> > 4: Find the correct oil filter bracket and hoses for turbo. (may start
> > stock parts until running & ready to invest in the AC)
> > 5: Install harness through new firewall hole (where?).
> > 6: Relocate battery to rear compartment.
> > 7: Install new heater core & possibly complete heater assembly from manual
> > AC car to avoid climate control issues.
> > 8: Install engine/drivetrain and connect harness.
> > 9: Keep working and working on harness connections until correct.
> > 10: Decide what IC will fit & fabricate cross member & plumbing to suit
> > RS2, or stock bumper, depending on $ and what I find.
> > 11: Decide on air box or cone filter and install.
> > 12: Decide to modify 200TQ down pipe or find one for 3B S2.
> > 13: Decide on exhaust. Buy or have one fabricated.
> > 14: Upgrade to 5 bolt hubs. Probably will use the same as my track car.
> > Porsche Boxster w/ A8 rotors up front, redrill rears.
> > 15: New hood and paint.
> > 16: Et cetera, et cetera....
> > Have I missed some important steps? Feedback is welcome as I bounce ideas
> > off you guys. Tell me where I'm missing the boat. Thanks again, and sorry
> > for the bandwidth.
> > Rick
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1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica
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