Inhaling and Exhaling...

TM t44tq at
Thu Aug 8 15:03:19 EDT 2002

Don't bother trying to turbo your NG, just get a MC engine and
220hp is easy, will make your CGT into a beast.

Engines can be had for $400, even with a rebuild you're looking at less
than cam, head work, valves and the like.


-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-admin at [mailto:quattro-admin at] On
Behalf Of David.Ullrich at
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:35 PM
To: mdg3369 at; quattro at
Subject: RE: Inhaling and Exhaling...

I too would like to make my Type 85 faster. But turboing it is NOT an
option. I have the NG in my CGT and it's compression is far too high to
turbo. So that leaves me SOL for forced induction. Anybody had any luck
extracting more power out of an NG? I'd love to see 175 HP out of it,
but would even be happy with 150. It's stock now, so I guess first steps
will be K&N dropin, exhaust, then get the head ported & polished and
drop in a new cam. Does that sound right? Thoughts on how much HP that
would be?


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-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Gough [mailto:mdg3369 at]
Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:03 PM
To: quattro at
Subject: Re: Inhaling and Exhaling...

> Well, the time is quickly coming to make Audrey ('87 4kcsq) a bit
> faster.
Good, turbo it! It's the cheapest way to go.

> 1) Intake... How much more power do I get with a full cold-air system
> than with just switching to a K&N (and how much actual improvement
> from the K&N?) And who produces cold-air systems for a 4kcsq (or do I
> get to make my own)?
A K&N might give ya 2hp. The stock intake IS in fact a cold air intake.
Well it's supposed to be, maybe some of that stuff is missing from your

> 2) Exhaust... the Stebros at Blau look nice... is it true that you get

> 6% more torque? (about... 8 more lb. ft.?)
Maybe another 3hp on the stock motor. I don't think a cold air intake
and exhaust are going to give you much more than noise. I had less in my
CIS turbo system than an exhaust system costs and it ran 15.5 at 85 in the
quarter mile....(stock was 17.4 at 78 or something) If you really want more
power naturally aspirated, you're getting into cams, headwork, higher
compression. All of these increase in cost exponentially. Bolt on a K24
at 6psi and you're done with it. Gobs of torque, and lots more HP too.

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