Type 44/5000 safety rating

Chander Balakrishnan balakrishnan3 at attbi.com
Wed Aug 28 05:13:34 EDT 2002

My anecdotal experience would corroborate Efraim's comments re: the 1985
test numbers.  Just ask for testimonials from listers -- I am sure there are
many among us who have had very bad accidents and have walked away without a
serious injury or any injury at all.  I know of at least 2 such incidents,
and I was in one of them.

-----Original Message-----
From: quattro-admin at audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin at audifans.com]On
Behalf Of Efraim Gavrilovich
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:05 PM
To: bswann at worldnet.att.net; quattro at audifans.com
Cc: SWANN (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Type 44/5000 safety rating

As much as I don't believe it, I did find the information your buyer's wife
might have referred to. It's here:
It shows one star driver side and five star passenger side ratings at
frontal impact for 1985 5000. The rating for 1989 for 100 shows big
improvement - five stars both sides. I am sure something was wrong with the
testing in 1985, but it's there, black on white. Too bad this poor woman
believed these so called "facts".
Efraim Gavrilovich
1988 5KTQ 345,000km (216K mi), 1.8 Bar
1990 90 123,000km (77K mi)
Vancouver, Canada

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ben Swann" <bswann at worldnet.att.net>
To: <quattro at audifans.com>
Cc: "SWANN (E-mail)" <bswann at worldnet.att.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 7:30 PM
Subject: Type 44/5000 safety rating

> OK - Listers, I'd appreciate some help with this one.  I had always been
> under the impression that out Type 44's were rather safe.  Please help me
> refute this.  I thought I saw some testimonials awhile back proclaiming
> that in this very type of drivers side accident the occupants came out
> miraculously unscathed, while the other vehicle disintegrated on impact,
> something to that effect.
> I personally con't see how this can be knowing something of the
> construction of these cars.  The only thing I can see is these safety
> rating are making a comparison to the newer luxury cars with side impact
> air bags, and even then, I question this rating.
> Here is what happened - the potential buyer of my '87 5000 turbo quattro
> avant backed out due to the following email:
> Joe Buyer here.  I've run into a bit of a snag with my wife regarding the
> purchase of your avant.  She's a firm believer in safety ratings and when
> she looked up the stuff on the 87 5000's was not amused at their 1 star
> drivers side rating in the 83-88 range.  Unless I can find something in
> print somewhere to convince here otherwise I'm afraid I'm going to have to
> pass on the car.
> Sorry,
> Joe Buyer
> Name changed to protect the identity of the buyer.
> Doesn't change my opinion of these cars, but this really bothers me, in
> addition to not selling the car.
> TIA,
> Ben

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