tapping lifters/oil filters [was: thanks 4 connector info]

james accordino ssgacc at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 3 16:42:06 EST 2002

God, I really didn't know how much those things suck.
THEY tell you how awesome they are, but.  My lifters
rattled like the car was going to break apart.  I only
used 1 Orange filter, for about 20 miles.  Really.  It
was SO bad I thought I broke something in the engine.
I've also heard Green and White filters also suck.
YEMV.  I wouldn't use anything not made in Germany now
that AC cheaped out on their filters for who knows
why.  Mann or Audi branded are the sh*t.  Kris at
VMAutohaus sends me Audi branded filters in the
original box for very cheap.  But if you're in the
states, they don't come tomorrow.  That's the only
rub.  But.... You know you'll be changing your oil so.
 Also, I bought the Mann 715/? in bulk several yrs.
ago.  10 filters for under $2.50 per.  Just used the
last one a few months ago with the free Audi filters
Kris threw in along the way.  I've noticed no
difference in either oil cleanliness, longevity or
breakdown with either the Audi branded or Mann 715/4?

Jim Accordino

> Right now I've got an orange filter on the car,
> which I know better and don't like.  I think it was
> from my first oil change after buying the car, and I
> used up all my oem filters I had in stock.  I'll
> change the oil and put a real filter on there and
> see if it helps.  Granted, I'll have the cam out
> anyway to swap in the 272, so I may still put in
> some known newer lifters that I have somewhere.
> I wonder why it's the lack of an anti-drainback
> feature that causes the problem.  I wonder if it is
> perhaps more due to a weak bypass valve in the
> filter.  Seems like the drainback would be like a
> check valve that would still allow flow in the same
> direction as the pump is pumping, and lack of it
> would still allow oil to pump in the same direction.
>  However, my thought is that a weak bypass valve
> would allow... eh, I don't know.  Who cares as long
> as the right filter works, right?
> I'll post whatever it turns out to be, not that we
> need any more reason to stay away from non-oem and
> orange filters.
> Later,
> Ken
> james accordino <ssgacc at yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Do you have the "right" oil filter installed?
> Using a
> > generic Merican oil filter will have them rattling
> > like crazy.  The real ones have an "anti-drain
> back
> > valve".  Well one that works anyway.  The only
> > American made oil filters I had any luck with
> (very
> > good actually) were the old AC ones.  Painted blue
> > with a thick steel case and a good anti-drainback
> > valve.  Of course, they worked so well and were so
> > inexpensive, they had to change them.  Oh well.  I
> now
> > favor the cheapo Mann 715? universal filter.
> >
> > Jim Accordino
> >
> > --- auditude at cox.net wrote:
> > > ruled out the vacuum pump as the tapping, and it
> > > sounds to me more like a lifter or two than the
> > > exhaust manifold.  If it still ticks afer that,
> then
> > > I will work toward putting the EM from the 4ksq
> in
> > > it, after I pull that motor to put in an MC-1.

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