I need a political solution to my racist fuel injection problem

Timofej H. Crift timofej.crift at att.net
Thu Dec 19 22:42:42 EST 2002

You convinced me.  That is all those $250 units are.  Add a couple of bucks
for a pressure regulator and you can perform the opening pressure tests, et
al.  I will be going to Home Depot in the morning to pick up the pipe...

Here is the url to a couple of the premade units.


Tim Crift

-----Original Message-----
From: R Mangas [mailto:porter_dog at hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 7:34 PM
To: tcrift at criftassoc.com; ssgacc at yahoo.com
Cc: quattro at audifans.com
Subject: RE: I need a political solution to my racist fuel injection

   I like the idea.  It seems like it would be a simple excercise to build a
cleaner out of black pipe and caps.  Fill it with solvent, either screw the
injector or an injector line into one tapped cap and use shop air to
pressurize the can.  Should cost all of $6.  With proper tools you could
make the same thing out of billet, but that would increase cost...


>From: "Timofej H. Crift" <timofej.crift at att.net>
>Reply-To: <tcrift at criftassoc.com>
>To: "james accordino" <ssgacc at yahoo.com>
>CC: "audi list" <quattro at audifans.com>
>Subject: RE: I need a political solution to my racist fuel injection
>Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 19:09:24 -0500
>I live right next to Whippany, so I did a quick YP search to see if they
>were still there, but the name or shop no longer exists. I will call around
>to see if any shops have them.  If that does not work, I have seen some of
>the new canister type universal cleaners/testers, but they run for $250.  I
>could also make one with all of the spare gauges, fuel lines and banjo
>fittings I have lying around.  I guess it is just time to get new
>I just hate to do it since I have about two dozen lying around and I'm sure
>most will be useable if checked or cleaned
>Tim Crift
>-----Original Message-----
>From: james accordino [mailto:ssgacc at yahoo.com]
>Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 5:57 PM
>To: tcrift at criftassoc.com
>Cc: audi list
>Subject: Re: I need a political solution to my racist fuel injection
>Along the lines of cleaning injectors, did ANYONE ever
>see this tool?  I worked for a time at European
>Imports on Rt. 10 East in Whippany, NJ.  They had a
>tool that worked like this.  You screwed the injector
>onto a fitting.  Attached to that was a chamber filled
>with a cleaning solution.  I don't know what the
>solution was exactly.  There is a lever that's a hand
>pressure pump.  When you pump the lever you pressurize
>the cleaning solution and force it through the
>injector.  The injector is aimed into a clear tube, so
>you can watch the spray pattern as you go.  It worked
>really well.  I literally watched horrible injector
>regain beautiful cone shapes within 1 minute of
>starting.  This device had a label on it, so it was a
>commerically manufactured device.  Size was about 3-4
>inches wide, 16-18 inches long and about a foot high.
>This was more than 10 yrs. ago and I didn't much care
>about work OR import cars at that time.
>Jim Accordino
>--- "Timofej H. Crift" <timofej.crift at att.net> wrote:
> > I am making progress with my hot acceleration
> > problem on my 1984 CIS coupe.
> > I swapped out the fuel distributor with a known good
> > unit and along with the
> > injectors, frequency valve, etc.  So now instead of
> > a hot acceleration/power
> > problem I have a hot rough idle problem.  The
> > control pressure is still good
> > @ 52psi and the system pressure is now up to 73 psi
> > and steady when hot.  I
> > checked the injector spray pattern before putting
> > them in and while they
> > appear to be even, when the fuel metering plate is
> > raised slightly
> > (simulated idle) the spray pattern is not conical.
> > Has anyone gone through
> > the injector spray tests without the special testing
> > tools listed in the
> > Bentley? Should I just replace the injectors at this
> > point and rule them
> > out.  The archives led me to some posts where people
> > have cleaned injectors
> > with 1000psi of compressed air.  How about 120psi
> > from a regular compressor.
> > Any BTDT's would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Off to start with the basics (compression, ignition,
> > etc.)
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tim Crift
> >
> > --
> > '84 CoupeGT putting along
> > '95 90Q with deer implanted firmly in nose
> > '99 A8 just waiting...
> >
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