Scrapping :( (was: 4kq probs..., was: 4kq back to no start)

R Mangas porter_dog at
Fri Dec 20 11:53:04 EST 2002

   Thanks for the input- it would make a good project car if it weren't for
the cancer; there's no long term payoff with this one, and since it didn't
start this morning (after running perfectly last night) I'm scrapping it.
I'll put new bearings in the '87 and cure it's cold-start hesitation (Ben
sez:  Change the thermo sensor!  Robert sez:  I'm going to!)

  I loved that car, makes me really sad to think of it dying.  It was like a
good mutt dog- ugly but good hearted and dependable.  I just can't see
working on the lesser of 2 not quite running cars.

  May the Laudi rest in peace.  Pieces!


>From: "EBavely" <veetesse at>
>To: "R Mangas" <porter_dog at>
>Subject: 4kq probs...
>Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 10:52:51 -0500
> >>It's rusty.  The rear door handles are a shambles.  75% of the
>windows work.  Heat is iffy.  Rear diff drain plug frozen and stripped.
>Leaks.  Tranny leaks.  Engine oil leaks a bit.  Trunk leaks like mad.
>Coolant leak.  Tailights are a mess, plate lights don't work at all.
>Exhaust leak.  Very loud 'custom' exhaust>>
>Wow, sounds like a project car to me... Still though, I have to give the
>head nod to the Audi folks for making something so solid that it'll still
>run and drive despite some of the problems you listed.
>Anyway, I thought I'd write and tell you that I had the same "iffy" heat in
>my 4kq when I first got it.  It seemed like it would warm up ok, but the
>heat def. was not up to par with my GTI or even the old rabbit.  As it
>turns out, the 4kq uses the SAME heater control valve as the rabbits and
>therefore has the same problems.
>The valve is a black plastic box looking things that sits inline with the
>heater hoses in the engine bay (rear of head) and has a cable attached to
>it (looks like speedo cable, but controls the heated coolant flow to the
>core).  On mine, this valve was flakey and wasn't opening all the way,
>thereby restricting the flow to the heater core and making the heat
>Good news is that the part is less than $15, should be widely available
>(used on many models) and it only takes about 30 minutes to install.  That
>might help if it's getting cold in your part of the country...
>The other thing that really helped my heat was removing the ducting and
>capping the holes that lead from the fresh air system to the center vents
>above the heater controls.  I was doing this anyways to put in some gauges,
>but without that constant cool air blowing in (not used for heat anyway in
>stock form), the heat cranks like it should.
>Elliott Bavely
>86 4ktq
>81 Coupe ITB, 83 CGT
>88 80 Fwd
>83 GTI FSP, 83 GTI 16V
>90 VW Cabriolet

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