Refrigerant and rebuilding AC

Kneale Brownson knotnook at
Thu Jun 12 21:25:08 EDT 2003

I don't know anything about Duracool, but Ryan Hoitink's been on the
quattro list for quite a while.  At least I remember seeing him post
occasionally over the last several years.

I think  someone pointed out last summer that Duracool is, as Mr. Myers put
it so techically well, a highly flammable substance that probably isn't
really safe to put into systems that go down the highway at speed.

At 06:59 PM 06/12/2003 -0400, Stephen Santoliquido wrote:
>O.K. Someone try to convince me that Ryan isn't a duracool sales rep. ;~)
>-----Original Message-----
>From: quattro-admin at [mailto:quattro-admin at]On
>Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2003 6:21 PM
>To: aL pOWELL
>Cc: quattro at
>Subject: Re: Refrigerant and rebuilding AC
>I just recharged the system on my car for the summer, and I have to say that
>I found an awesome alternative to r-12 or r-134a.  I saw a message from last
>year in the archives about a product called Duracool.  (
>6oz of this product is equivalent to 17 oz of R12.  It's organic, and
>contains no CFCs, and it's also non-corrosive.  The best part is that it's
>CHEAP, and they ship it to WI, where you can't even buy 134a legally.  I
>paid about $32 shipped for a kit to fill my system.  It can go right in with
>the old R12 or R134a.  I ordered from and fedex delivered it
>a day later.  This stuff is really incredible.  I only needed 1 6oz can to
>make my AC blow like an arctic wind.  Plus, it only costs $7 per can if I
>ever need to buy more to refill.  I think I just might buy a case.
>It's the best solution for recharging, bar none.  It's hardly even worth
>tracking down a leak in the system when it's so cheap(and still
>environmentally friendly) to recharge.
>----- Original Message -----
>From: aL pOWELL <apowell at>
>Date: Monday, June 9, 2003 7:21 pm
>Subject: Refrigerant and rebuilding AC
> > Related to the question about releasing refrigeratnt into the
> > atmosphere...
> > The last time I had to do an AC job (last summer), recovering the
> > refrigerant was moot onna counta it had left the premises already.
> > If this
> > were not the case, I would have taken it to an AC shop and had
> > them purge
> > the system.  I feel that we should do this as responsible
> > citizens, but I'm
> > not under the delusion that the ozone layer disappeared for a day
> > becauseone single car lost its load of R-12. (I'm not even
> > convinced that R-12 from
> > automobiles is really an issue with the ozoen layer, but that's
> > anotherdebate.)
> >
> > My experience is that MOST AC shops want to do all the work
> > themselves and
> > charge you $$$$$$ prices for parts.  They will refuse to do the
> > job unless
> > you let them do the whole job...and this is especially true of
> > dealerships.I understand why they wnt to do this - they're in
> > business to make money.
> > However, they don't have to live on MY money. Capitalism also
> > means you have
> > choices! If you look around and make some calls and are VERY clear
> > that you
> > are doing the parts replacement and only need the system charged,
> > it, you'll
> > find an **independent shop** that has no problem with charging
> > your system
> > when you bring it to them. The shop I found also replaced a bad
> > fitting in
> > the conversion kit I bought as I was changing my 1990 200 to R-134A.
> >
> > Results - low repair bill, functioning AC. Happy, happy, joy, joy.
> >
> > ************************************
> > Al Powell
> > apowell at
> > 1958 Fiat 1200 Transformabile Spyder
> > 1983 Datsun 280ZX Turbo
> > 1990 Audi 200
> > 1999 Chebby Blazer
> > ************************************
> >
> >

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