Timing belt align to rotor problem.

SJ syljay at optonline.net
Thu Dec 30 13:49:14 EST 2004

Maybe, the distributor shaft jumped gears or something. Who the hell knows.
You got one weird puppy there.

If it was me, I would remove the distributor and check it out thoroughly.
I dont know how to check the gearing inside the head or the block. Somebody
else has to chime in on this.
I think the distrubutor end has a slot or groove that mates with the slot or
groove inside the engine. Maybe these are rounded off? The distributor end
is not fully engaging into the gear? Take some measurements and see what you

If I recall correctly, to remove the distributor, I ground off the rivet on
the dist clamp with a dremel grinding disc. It wasnt hard to do.

What is the story with the fuel system?
Fuel pump pressure?
Fuel pump delivery?
Fuel pressure regulator?

I still cannot figure out the relationship between your fuel problem and
this timing problem.
Maybe you were having a slowly worsening fuel problem for a long time. And
this timing problem occured very quickly and very recently. Maybe all that
cranking caused by your fuel problem had something to do with the
distributor being 180 degrees out?



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Denis" <sparkplugvw at hotmail.com>
To: "SJ" <syljay at optonline.net>; <quattro at audifans.com>

  I just changed the timing belt.

  From Bentley book, when all marks (flywheel 0 and cam sprocket to gasket
cover) the rotor must indicate the first cylnder or in another words it
indicate the opposite of the distr connector.
  Mine indicate the distr connector.

  The disrt is clamped and never been unclamped.
  I have couple of those distr. and all are the same.
  Everything on the car was there when i bought it.
  Crank pulley and cam sprocket have them key to prevent turning on the
shaft. So that way nothing can twist.

  So what s wrong ?

  My engine is not special!!! it must be something wrong somewhere!!

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    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: SJ
    To: Denis
    Cc: quattro at audifans.com
    Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 2:25 AM
    Subject: Re: timing marks made the engine knocking

    You have something screwey going on.

    With timing marks all properly aligned, take a look at the distributor.
    The rotor must be aligned with the notch in the edge of the distributor
    body. (On theBentley book that position is the cylinder 1, mine is 5 !!)
    Now position the distributor cap on the distributor body. The rotor
    be lined up with the contact for #1 spark plug.(I unplugged all of them
and plugged the cyl 1 to the rotor first position and so on for the others.I
tried to start and it was weird)
    The plug wire from this contact should go to #1 plug.
    Who the hell knows, maybe you have the wrong cap or something. Or the
    has been mounted backwards or something.(My spare cap is identical)

    When you change the valve timing, you are also changing the distributor
    Moving the camshaft also moves the distributor shaft. The two are linked
    together by gears.(yes)
    The piston is at top dead center, but the plug wont fire because the
    distributor rotor has turned and the rotor aint pointing at the #1
    anymore.(Yes, it ll fire couple degres before the TDC)

    If you are going to fart around with the valve timing, then you need to
    the spark timing correct by turning the distributor so the rotor lines
    with the distributor body notch. To do this, you need to grind off that
    rivet on the distributor lock down clamp.

    How it possible the rotor got 180 turned if it still clamp there by Audi


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