t44tqtro at gmail.com
Mon Jan 8 11:08:44 EST 2007
Actually, the A4 and A5 chassis VWs are excellent in crash testing.
I'd highly doubt that the C4 is better in accidents- while the C4 has a
airbag, quattro and seatbelt pretensioners, there are no other safety
The later A4 VWs have dual front, seat-mounted side and side curtain airbags
('01 and later) as well as ESP. In terms of safety features, the side
side curtain airbags significantly increase survivability and reduce injury
I don't think VW is standing still when it comes to safe design- each
to get better and better.
[Don't take this to be condescending or belittling]
Have you driven an A4 VW? When you say sporty car w/ a manual, the standard
2.slow Golfs and Jettas are slooooow. That's why I call it a 2.slow- they
have barely enough
power to merge on the highway, they're adequate around town and they're
sporty. Standard 15" wheels w/ all-season tires are not very sporty.
I would agree that having a powerful car with a novice driver is a very bad
idea, but a well-trained
driver can take advantage of a car that handles well. I would not try to get
him a yacht of a car
for that very reason (Buick Park Avenue is a big, safe car).
I think a VW with the 2.0 and a manual is the closest thing to a
contemporary Volvo 240- very
safe car, barely adequate power, very good brakes and handling (but not
really sporty). In that
regard, the 60k I drove our Beetle 2.0 wasn't as bad as some of you might
think. Yes, I wanted
limo tint windows to avoid the laughs and stares driving a yellow Beetle,
but dynamically, the car
wasn't bad at all.
On 1/8/07, Lee Levitt <lee at wheelman.com> wrote:
> I'm generally in agreement with you regarding the manual
> transmission. If he was interested in sedans, we would have gone
> that route. However, he really wanted a wagon, both for the
> utility and the slightly better rearward visibility.
> And I wanted a slow, safe, relatively large car for him. I don't
> have much fact behind this, but my gut tells me that the C4 A6 may
> handle accidents better than later model VWs...
> He's a teenager and he has ADD. The latter drives his likelihood
> of accidents up by a factor of 200-300%, and a sporty car with a
> manual would only accentuate this...
> If a Volvo 240 were available with AWD... :)
> On Mon Jan 08 06:36:34 PST 2007, Taka Mizutani
> <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm a little disappointed- I would have hoped that you would
> > teach your
> > son to drive manual transmission and have him get a manual
> > transmission
> > car!
> > I feel that this is a useful skill that a lot of people are
> > lacking these
> > days.
> > I would have gotten an A4 chassis Golf/Jetta 2.slow if you're
> > sticking w/
> > VAG- safe car, relatively easy to work on and fairly simple,
> > compatible with
> > VAG-COM that I'm sure you already have and also relatively new.
> > With a
> > manual
> > transmission, they're not totally bad, they have great brakes and
> > available
> > ESP on the later cars. Not reliable but a lot simpler than an
> > S-car. :-)
> > Taka
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