roadside help needed.

isgall at isgall at
Sun Oct 28 01:24:12 PDT 2007


Thank you for the reply at such a late hour.

The car was serviced at the same mechanic who's been working on out
cars for the past 8 yrs or so, it is doubtful that the wrong fluid was
used. If it locked down on that woman on her way home, it doesn't seem
to make sense as I've been able to make it aproximately 2000 miles so

Car had been travelling on I-80 and we had exited to a gas station
where the e brake was used.over heating was probably not an issue as
the breaks were not used much?

Ebrake was left engaged for aproximately  10 feet of travel before it
was disengaged. note that the ebrake was not pulled even halfway. at
this point car exhibited
what turned out to strand us on the hwy, brakes momentarily locked up
and car almost stalled.

Unfortunately I wasn't  able to determine a problem at this time
because the vehicle then show no further issues until a rubbing noise
was noticed upon entering the hwy.

I stopped and manually released the rear calipers thinking that the e
brake might be stuck. car then rolled freely until it entered its
current all 4 wheels locked state.

Quickly attempting to bleed the system at the master didn't release
the breaks? I'll have to look closer in th AM.

This is frustrating as many new part were just installed including
front axles, lf and rf cv and brake master...

thanks again for the help.

On 10/27/07, Ed Kellock <ekellock at> wrote:
> I can't help with a mechanic reference.  So I hope I can help with some
> perspective...
> Initially I thought of the issue where the brake master cylinder overheats
> and causes the brakes to apply.  Then I read of the recent flush and
> remembered when a friend had a car serviced by Walmart and the wrong fluid
> was put in the wrong system and her brakes locked down tight later on the
> way home.
> I'm pretty sure that this is not an ABS malfunction.  I believe if it were,
> it would be nonexistent with all power off and just trying to move the car
> manually.
> There's really not anything about your braking system that is any different
> than any other car.  The power assist is supplied by the Pentosin system.
> But we're not talking about 2nd party assist.  We're talking about 1st
> person mechanical application of the brakes.  That's where I really feel the
> focus should be on the fluid in the system.  If the wrong fluid is present,
> seals swell/leak, and heat has way more impact potentially.
> How much driving occurred between the bleed on Tuesday and tonight?
> **** I would suggest and hope that a full flush/bleed with proper fluid
> would alleviate the problem enough to make the car driveable, given your
> situation. ***
> What kind of fluid was in it before the bleed on Tuesday?
> What kind of fluid was added when the bleed was done on Tuesday?
> Even if brake fluid was used, some types of brake fluid are not compatible
> with others.
> What sort of service person/shop did the bleed?
> Ed
> Colorado Springs
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: quattro-bounces at
> > [mailto:quattro-bounces at] On Behalf Of I.S. Gall
> > Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2007 11:39 PM
> > To: quattro at
> > Subject: roadside help needed.
> >
> >
> > any listers near or around Rock Springs Wyoming or know of a
> > good mechanic willing to work sundays?
> >
> > Car is a 91 200q20v with apparent brake issues.
> >
> > rear calipers would not release (ebrake cable OK) I was able
> > to release pads by manually pushing out pads. At same time
> > there was a speed related rubbing noise coming from the
> > front, while pulling into the breakdown lane the car was
> > abrubtly halted by locked breaks.
> >
> > Car cannot be moved eitehr forward or reverse nor could it be
> > pushed off the highway by hwy patrol.
> >
> > Could this be an abs computer malfunction? new ufo rotors and
> > pads were just installed and the system was bled on tuesday.
> >
> > any help would be appreciated, I can be reached on my cell at
> > 408 813 8839. Please excuse any typos as this is being typed
> > on my mobile phone.
> >
> > thanks in advance for any and all help.
> >
> > I.S.Gall
> >
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