RS6 comedy

Ed Kellock ekellock at
Fri Nov 7 11:46:43 PST 2008

I went to a tech session when the RS6 first came out.  It was an Audi Club
event at the primary dealer in Denver.  With the car in the air, I don't
recall being able to see the starter from underneath.  They told us that the
book stated it was a 22-hour job involving dropping the engine from the car.
I imagine in time actual people performing the actual job have saved a good
bit on that, hence Dave's 8-hour/$1500 position, which definitely sounds
more reasonable, IF the dealer will charge _actual_ time for the job.  It
may very well be that a dealer service department somewhere charged full
book rate for a deep-pocketed customer.  Not sure whey the North American
version would require different battery placement.  Probably some sort of
federal regulation vs. crash testing blah, blah, blah.  Seems that if it fit
elsewhere for the rest of the world, it might be able to be retrofitted
elsewhere in North American, unless there's some "extra" equipment required
that takes up the space.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: quattro-bounces at 
> [mailto:quattro-bounces at] On Behalf Of Dave
> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2008 12:29 PM
> To: quattro at
> Subject: Re: RS6 comedy
> no unusually brett, you can't see the wood for the trees...
> $4k to replace the starter, sorry but someone is yanking your 
> chain (or is it your usual hyperbole?).  the engine does come 
> out as turbos are in the way.  you could lose the turbos i 
> guess, but then the car wouldn't be quite the same would it - 
> i never liked the c5 s6.  my dealer tells me it is an 8 hour 
> job to remove the motor, and that a starter replacement would 
> be less than $1.5k.  i have yet to hear of a failed rs6 
> starter motor.  i'll stick with the car and the turbos thanks.
> the weak points of the car are well known - primarily drc and 
> the tranny. having said that, the rs6 is the best "s" or "rs" 
> audi i've owned (5 at last
> count) - and is still running factory fresh and sweet 2 years 
> later, 4 years from purchase.  but as with any hi-po german 
> car, it's got to have a warranty. if you can afford the car, 
> afford the warranty.
> btw the battery is only on the trunk floor of usa cars. hans 
> and klaus put the battery under the trunk floor for everyone 
> but the usa. and gave everyone else proper rs6 seats.  and 
> avants. wonder why?
> dave
> '03 rs6
> '04 allroad tdi
> On 7/11/08 7:36 PM, "quattro-request at" > Date: 
> Thu, 6 Nov 2008 21:24:00 -0500
> > From: Brett Dikeman <brett at>
> > Subject: RS6 comedy
> > To: Quattro List <quattro at>
> > 
> > Economy got you down?  Just got a big bill from your mechanic? 
> > Wondering if your car is worth it?
> > 
> > Well, look on the bright side: you could own a C5 RS6.
> > 
> > For the RS6-deprived, a starter going bust is a relatively minor 
> > expense.  For the worthy?  It's $4k, because the engine has to come 
> > out.  Then there are the torque converter failures (so much 
> for that 
> > BS about the autobox handling torque better than a manual), 
> the timing 
> > belt adjustments every 10,000 miles, and the fancy DRC suspension 
> > system failures.
> > 
> > If you had an RS6, this wallet-draining would be 
> beneficial.  See, if 
> > you had money, then you could afford to buy stuff, which 
> you could try 
> > to in your RS6's trunk.  Which you can't, because there's a 
> battery in 
> > the way.  Vorsprung Der Technic apparently consists of a 
> bunch of boys 
> > from Quattro GMBH bumming around the R&D shop on a weekend 
> with some 
> > beers, shoehorning two turbochargers into the engine compartment, 
> > buttoning everything back up, and then realizing it wont 
> start because 
> > they forgot to put the battery back in.  And then stuffing it in a 
> > carpeted box in the trunk so they can get home.
> > 
> > Other comedy: rumors of Audi denying warranty claims on RS4 
> suspension 
> > failures (they're considered "wear and tear" and only 
> covered to 12k/ 
> > 12months), so clearly there wasn't much work put into DRC 
> between the 
> > two cars.  If you're thinking about purchasing the fancy 
> suspension in 
> > a new Audi, you might want to quadruple-rethink it.
> > 
> > Brett
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