[V8] Making a profit was Re: Houston we have a problem
qshipq at aol.com
Tue Jan 10 11:36:28 PST 2012
I laugh reading this lame attempt at discrediting Force5! Having known Chris personally for 16+ years, some random guy no longer on the list slamming one of the best used parts suppliers we have left, is a joke of the first order. I also know Chris lost a lot of money working with a v8lister in MA, so I'm surprised he even does business there anymore. In the meantime, maybe j123fs reading his own post from 2 years ago below, might be good advice to follow?
Right now, the two 'specialists' for hard to find used Audi parts are Shokan and Force 5 (pick one, try the former for perspective). The three main 'others' with true expertise have fallen by the wayside: Autosport Unlimited, Bruce at Audiconnection, and AudiOnly =gone. That said, Chris is not only an expert, but has consistently demonstrated for years to be: An Audi enthusiast. A flawless record in his 20years of doing business? I doubt anyone can attain that, mostly because of the internet baseline expectation that price = value. A quick google search of j123fs own posts on this forum certainly seem to support an attitude: it's all about the price. I argue person like that will find very little satisfaction in a successful and long term relationship with any vendor on these forums.
Chris is still around for a reason, and is still very respected in the used parts community, by many of us that have done tens of thousands of dollars in business with Force5 over the years. I have to chuckle, when I see a poorly worded attempt at a slime. I will be the first to thank Chris at Force 5 for being there countless times when needed over the last 16+ years... And never once, taking advantage of me on price or value. I have to chuckle, when I see a poorly worded attempt at a slime. Luckily for the rest of the v8 list, Chris will still be around long after j123fs has gone back to lurking.
92 v8 ABT Chipped
On February 27 2009 j123fs at aol.com wrote:
I stand by what I stated to you directly before - the old maxim :
If you do not have something nice to say, do not say anything at all.
From: Huw Powell <audi at humanspeakers.com>
To: j123fs <j123fs at aol.com>
Cc: v8 <v8 at audifans.com>; quattro <quattro at audifans.com>; theringmeister <theringmeister at triad.rr.com>
Sent: Mon, Jan 9, 2012 9:18 pm
Subject: Re: [V8] Making a profit was Re: Houston we have a problem
On 1/9/2012 8:57 PM, j123fs at aol.com wrote:
> As a successful small business person myself I tend to disagree, you
> need to have good customer service and be honest in order to make
> money. If you have had good service from Chris, good for you. I and
> many others have not. Simple as that.
Let the others speak for themselves. I doubt there is one.
> One of the great things about about free market capitalism is that if
> if someone's service or product is not so good you can vote with your
> feet and dollars and walk away. I and many others have done that with
Let them speak for themselves.
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