From serge411 at speakeasy.org Thu Aug 1 00:55:18 2002 From: serge411 at speakeasy.org (serge) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:27 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Samco GP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 7/31/02 5:18 PM, Dave Burig at dburig@igsenergy.com wrote: > I blew out my Michelin Man hose the other day (running just fine now, due to > a loaner from Charlie, Thank-you Sir!)and was wondering if anyone wanted to > sell a position in the Samco GP, since it is now closed. Would the darn > thing blow while the GP was still open...NOOOOOOoooooo. > Contact me off list if you would be so kind. > Dave "living on borrowed boost" Burig > > Point of interest. When I borrowed the hose from Charlie, I noticed > immediately that it felt beefier, with thicker walls that felt harder to > collapse. I knew that If I ever made this comment on the list, that I would > be chastised for vaguery and lack if empirical data, so here you go. > My stock hose off of a 93 S4 weighs 425 grams (15 oz.) > Charlie's stock hose off of his 95 S6 weighs 496 grams (17.5 oz.) > > First let's not even waste the bandwidth with replies concerning the > stiffness of one lister's hose vs. another's. It's just too easy. I will > also refuse to answer inquiries as to why I possess a gram scale. What I > would like to know, is if Audi made improvements to this part in later model > years, and if this is what I would get if I bought a new one from a > stealership? > DB > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > Dave, If you are hoping that there was a significant improvement made to that hose between the S4 and S6, let me shatter your dreams. My 95 S6 avant Michelin Man hose looked normal, other than some oil around the ends. Replacing this with its silicone equivalent made a big difference in the power delivery (butt dyno.) I did not see any cracks or splits. I have to assume that at least part of the problem was the wimpy factory clamps. ECS offers a complete set of really beefy T-clamps for all the Turbo hoses for just $36 (I think). IMO, anyone who goes through the trouble of replacing the hoses without upgrading the clamps is not getting the most out of their time or money. Serge Filanovsky 95 S6 Avant From FvAMI at aol.com Thu Aug 1 02:00:13 2002 From: FvAMI at aol.com (FvAMI@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:27 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Chipsets...what are they and are they of value?? Message-ID: <61.23898017.2a7a1a5d@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 7/31/02 6:49:13 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lawtonmk@yahoo.com writes: > The one from the computer - installed by a P.O. of the > car, has tags reading: LS4-EZ91 and LS4-94P2. Anyone > know what I have, and if it's worth putting it on > e-bay?? > > Thanks, > Hoppen (Lehman Stage 1). From FvAMI at aol.com Thu Aug 1 02:03:42 2002 From: FvAMI at aol.com (FvAMI@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:27 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Samco GP Message-ID: <8a.1c2d7d80.2a7a1b2e@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 7/31/02 3:39:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, tedebearp@yahoo.com writes: > at least one silicone > hose. it's orange, and it's the turbo to crossover hose MTM hose, Best regards, Feico van der Laan From fjamoroso at webtv.net Thu Aug 1 00:08:30 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S-CAR Nationals Cancelled... but wait, there is more! In-Reply-To: "Pollock, Thomas" 's message of Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:52:30 -0400 Message-ID: <11191-3D48C24E-1437@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net> Word from my brother's uncle's sister's cousin, who knows a guy, who's giving the chick at the Minnetonka (sp?) Marriot the business is that some wild eyed red-haired kid came in the other day, started hyperventilating (on the verge of crying really) and between very rapid loud shallow inhales / exhales started spouting off something about needing to cancel a contract. At first they couldn't really understand what in the hell this guy was saying (spasing out, remember) so he gets even more desperate and pointed outside to some Mercury [sic] ecks-R[(4+4 )/4]-tea-Aye! that was leaking oil on their brand new driveway (damn!) and threatened to abandon the car there (including the mismatched tires, the primer colored left rear fender, and the different colored driver's door that he just sourced from a junk yard). With that, the wheels (so to speak) got set into motion and the hotel offered to reduce Darin's liability to $700. Being the shrewd negotiator that he is, he jumped at the chance and put it on his Usury Visa Lead Card, where he will be paying off the high rate balance over the next 30 years (along with that new, to him, driver's door). The real sad part about the story is that the hotel was willing to go as far as paying Darin $700 just to leave the premises. You shoulda stuck around and held out for more, Ace. Anyway, so the people behind the front desk gave Darin a push-start and sent him on his happy way and he trundled along the shores of Lake CumonIwannalayu spewing unburnt hydrocarbons, and white (or was that blue) smoke from a blown turbo seal, and he lived happily ever after. So, with that, our hero, Darin "The Kid" Nederhoff removed his resume from contention at Dairy Queen, and started to think about what he REALLY wanted to be when he grows up. The general manager at the Marriot was heard saying, "That boy just ain't right." Even so, glad you dodged a bullet son. Frank@s-cars.org From FvAMI at aol.com Thu Aug 1 02:11:38 2002 From: FvAMI at aol.com (FvAMI@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost Message-ID: <4f.213bf3c5.2a7a1d0a@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 7/31/02 12:10:14 PM Pacific Daylight Time, otw185@yahoo.com writes: > 10) Now the boost gauge reads a constant 1.1 bar with > car running, but absolutely no boost. No funny sounds > under throttle, no audible air leakage, no black > smoke. Just runs like a 5 cylinder car with no turbo. > Very smooth, no idle problems. The lurching is also > gone. Shutting car off with key still in ignition, > gauge returns to 1.0 bar (sea-level ambient) like > normal. I smell nothing funny, see no smoke and can > see no signs of hose release or breakage. > ECU hose blown off either at the ECU or in the engine compartment. Best regards, Feico van der Laan From fjamoroso at webtv.net Thu Aug 1 00:22:07 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Mare-coors NAC In-Reply-To: Peter Anderson 's message of Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:04:53 -0400 Message-ID: <11192-3D48C57F-1205@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net> How do you say Mehr-coors (which means more Coors auf Deutch)? Easy, it is the opposite of The New Hotness, also known as Old and Busted (alt und kaput for you Tedesci). Sorry all, don't know what has gotten into me this evening. I guess I am just happy for Darin, happy that he is sporting the Scorpio, I mean More-coors, I mean Ford... Damn, I guess I don't know what I mean. Frank@s-cars.org From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 02:24:44 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost In-Reply-To: <4f.213bf3c5.2a7a1d0a@aol.com> Message-ID: <000401c2391b$bf0807f0$0d42fea9@newpc> I disagree with the possibility of the ECU hose off at the ECU- with a leak, they make loud whooshing sounds, BTDT when I plumbed my boost gauge. Even in the engine bay you should be able to hear it- I could hear it clearly when I tore my Michelin Man hose. Taka From editor at s-cars.org Thu Aug 1 01:52:43 2002 From: editor at s-cars.org (Darin Nederhoff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S-CAR Nationals Cancelled... but wait, there is more! References: <11191-3D48C24E-1437@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net> Message-ID: <3D48CCAB.AA8AB83C@s-cars.org> Frank Amoroso wrote: > Word from my brother's uncle's sister's cousin, who knows a guy, who's > giving the chick at the Minnetonka (sp?) Marriot the business Oh my.... uh, clearly Frank has been into the sauce? Hey Rod, quit sending Frank that West Virginia 'shine! ;-) Darin From Q at IntendedAcceleration.com Thu Aug 1 02:07:12 2002 From: Q at IntendedAcceleration.com (Q) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Chipsets...what are they and are they of value?? In-Reply-To: <20020801014612.17923.qmail@web21107.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c23932$74501ab0$afaffea9@shadow> Starting model year 1993 Lehmann S4 chips. Nice and conservative. LS4-EZ91 is modification of stock 1 267 357 391 chip LS4-94P2 is modification of stock 1 267 357 394 chip Ned -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Michael Lawton Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 6:46 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Chipsets...what are they and are they of value?? My 93 S4 is going away tomorrow. I scavenged the 2 chipsets - 1 from the ECU and one from the glovebox. The one from the glovebox is the stock chipset. Does this have any value? The one from the computer - installed by a P.O. of the car, has tags reading: LS4-EZ91 and LS4-94P2. Anyone know what I have, and if it's worth putting it on e-bay?? Thanks, Mike Lawton now Audi-less, soon to be (hopefully) Porsche-less __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mail at red-wing.co.uk Thu Aug 1 11:40:25 2002 From: mail at red-wing.co.uk (Adrian Hart) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish Message-ID: No wonder he kept that quiet ;-) Joking aside, the Merkur begat the "Cossie", a piece of kit definitely not to be scoffed at, especially in its later 4WD incarnation. The favoured wheels of bank robbers in the late 80's, inevitably also a high speed police patrol car, now almost impossible to find one that's not been thrashed and smashed. http://www.turbocharger.co.uk/rs-cosworth-sierra.html Adrian From flhuillier at siebel.com Thu Aug 1 04:11:58 2002 From: flhuillier at siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish Message-ID: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AADB@parhqexm01.siebel.com> I like the hood of the car. May be something I should add in a second hood for track session. It should certainly help the V8 to be cooler Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Hart [mailto:mail@red-wing.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:40 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish No wonder he kept that quiet ;-) Joking aside, the Merkur begat the "Cossie", a piece of kit definitely not to be scoffed at, especially in its later 4WD incarnation. The favoured wheels of bank robbers in the late 80's, inevitably also a high speed police patrol car, now almost impossible to find one that's not been thrashed and smashed. http://www.turbocharger.co.uk/rs-cosworth-sierra.html Adrian _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From lee at wheelman.com Thu Aug 1 07:58:51 2002 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Instrument Cluster Problems In-Reply-To: <11190-3D48B981-1583@storefull-2192.public.lawson.webtv.net> Message-ID: Frank writes: > > Also, IIRC, all of the gauges are available individually from Audi for > the pre-UrS6 cars. UrS6 show only the cluster available in its entirety > (I hate it when they do that). I just picked up a white oil pressure gauge through Mack @ Clair...they may be available individually, but some of these are tough to find, and not inexpensive! Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From flhuillier at siebel.com Thu Aug 1 05:04:44 2002 From: flhuillier at siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish Message-ID: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AAE0@parhqexm01.siebel.com> Well it is an heavy car. But the V8 and quattro is very helpfull specially on long tracks. OUr car are not designed for short and curvy tracks I used the gearbox heavily to help the brakes (the clutch really likez it !!!!!) To beat them up all, I wait a rainy day and then I enjoy passing them all. Of course I keep the three baby seats in the back and explain to people it helps the chassis to be less flexible !!!! Some peple are impressed to be passed by a Wagon and come to see the car. Some really hate it (BMW and Porsche). Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Adrian Hart [mailto:mail@red-wing.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:56 PM To: Frederic L'Huillier Subject: Re: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish How do you find the S6+ handles on the track? I'm tempted to take mine out, but as you know, here track days are dominated by Lotus and TVR. I don't want to look stupid out there. (OK - I probably will anyway with my Hawiian shirt!) Adrian -- > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 03:11:58 -0700 > To: "'Adrian Hart'" , s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish > > I like the hood of the car. May be something I should add in a second hood > for track session. It should certainly help the V8 to be cooler > > Regards, > Frederic > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Adrian Hart [mailto:mail@red-wing.co.uk] > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:40 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Darins Ford Fetish > > > No wonder he kept that quiet ;-) > > Joking aside, the Merkur begat the "Cossie", a piece of kit definitely not > to be scoffed at, especially in its later 4WD incarnation. The favoured > wheels of bank robbers in the late 80's, inevitably also a high speed police > patrol car, now almost impossible to find one that's not been thrashed and > smashed. > > > http://www.turbocharger.co.uk/rs-cosworth-sierra.html > > Adrian > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 1 09:18:06 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] The s-cars gang: what a great group! Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C543F@NJ_DC_01> Scott: I'll be there! Bob -----Original Message----- From: Scott Thompson [mailto:n3xgc@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:59 PM To: Tom Vandervoort; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] The s-cars gang: what a great group! -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It would be great to get some UrS cars together at the ACCNA Nationals event. There are probably 10-12 UrS cars in the DC metro area that we know of, plus others coming for the event I'm sure. Several of us with S4s and S6s are involved in planning some of the events. I would suggest that we try to pick an event over the weekend and get everyone who can to attend that one event. Sunday might be good as those coming for the drivers school will be arriving. Any Takers/other ideas? -Scott '95 S6 Tom Vandervoort wrote:Hi guys: I had to stop lurking and post to praise all of you for supporting Darin in recovering from having to cancel the s-cars Nationals. What a great group! The eS2 is all repaired after its Winter fender-bender. Toughest thing was getting the parts from Europe. It just took a lot of time. It took Anderson Motorsport two tries to get the late S2 intercooler in (first box was empty). I was very well served by Allstate who went after the at-fault party's insurance company. The other company wanted to total the "old '91 car." Allstate took the trouble to look into the car and ended up getting an independent appraisal done. Result: estimated market value of $26,000. The S2 is going reasonably fast at Audi Club events this year (Brainerd, Mid-O and Watkins Glen so far -- what great tracks!), but is up for an MTM chip and Garrett turbo addition very soon. Hope to see some more of you at Road America and maybe the Audi Club Nationals in October. In addition to the S-Cars Fest Darin is organizing for August 31,is there a chance we could do something at the Audi Club national event in Virginia? BTW, the check IS in the mail, Darin Tom Vandervoort //S2 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com Thu Aug 1 10:14:17 2002 From: KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com (Paul Krasusky) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Mer-cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurrr Message-ID: Heh, na, they intended on vertical radios... they actually made the car go faster. Afterall, they're vertical in a Countach, so... -Paul K. CT Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:04:53 -0400 Subject: Re: [s-cars] Mare-coors NAC From: Peter Anderson To: Darin Nederhoff Cc: On 07/31/02 6:20 PM, "Darin Nederhoff" wrote: > The Merkur is no Audi 'S' car but I still enjoy the unique styling. > Even today the car will still generate questions at the gas station or > from the Domino's Pizza guy, "What in the hell is an X-ER-RATI?!" > *grin* Darin, The vertical orientation of the stereo head-unit always puzzled me...always thought that was pretty weird. What do you think happened in the design studio on that one - Shit, I forgot to put the radio in the dash design! hmmmm, maybe I can just cram it into that unused vertical panel.... -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed From kenneth.chang at sun.com Thu Aug 1 09:16:12 2002 From: kenneth.chang at sun.com (Kenneth Chang) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] LAC: Any Netscape/MSIE users running under Solaris 8 on a Sun Ultra 60? References: <20020731230549.84993.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D4942AC.6010406@sun.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey Darin, i'm scoping through solaris 8 using netscape 4.79 and 6.2.2 on an ultra 1. No problems. Ken Theodore Chen wrote: >huh? i have both, and i don't see any difference in the way the >home page is displayed between netscape navigator 4.79 and IE 6.0. > >both look fine. > >--- Igor Kessel wrote: > >>No, not really, Darin. Looks fine with NN 4.79 >>Sure looks better with IE6.0 tho... >> >>-- >>Igor Kessel >>two turbo quattros >> >> >>Darin Nederhoff wrote: >> >>>Limited Audi Content here. >>> >>>I'm doing a little troubleshooting here and I am wondering how many of >>>you may be viewing the site with Netscape 4.78 or 4.75 under Solaris 8, >>>on a Sun Ultra 60 or similar format. >>> >>>Charlie Smith is running the setup above and it appears that the left >>>hand site navigation menus are overtaking much of the content space in >>>the page. If there are any more of you who are experiencing this >>>anomaly please drop me a line. It would be helpful to have a few >>>eyeballs to compare notes with. >>> >>>Thanks, >>> >>>Darin >>>S-CARS.ORG >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>S-CAR-List mailing list >>>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >>> >>_______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- From mckenzie3249 at rogers.com Thu Aug 1 11:40:58 2002 From: mckenzie3249 at rogers.com (Ulrich L. McKenzie) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Wipers In-Reply-To: <002f01c237ca$3d056380$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: Don't you mean Jinglish???? Len -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of TM Sent: 30 July 2002 09:09 To: 'Bruce'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Wipers Engrish. For happy fun life! Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:09 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Wipers This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not to poke fun at grammar, but I saw this on ebay and it made me giggle: Descriptions: 1.. The MTEC wipers are Made in JAPAN!!! 2.. Vented frame to reduce aerodynamic lift and provide perfect contact with the windshield. 3.. Combining the water-wiping coat to raise the effect and furthermore to obtain the excellent clear view. 4.. Avoiding buss. Quietly and smoothly wiping to make the glass water-wiping coat more efficient. 5.. The sharp water wiping can ensure the cleat view rapidly, and it also can reduce the burden of the motor and battery. 6.. Using outstanding weatherproof rubber. Achieving one million times wiping when tested in the factory. 7.. For high-speeding racers the organized- in -one wiper blade can ensure clear view. 8.. Include an universal quick lock adapter fits over 96% of vehicles for easy installation. 9.. Wiping off the rainwater with the high class natural rubber. Bruce '93 S4 high-speeding racer _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 11:52:04 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Wipers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c2396b$00727460$0d42fea9@newpc> No, the proper name for it is "Engrish." Taka -----Original Message----- From: Ulrich L. McKenzie [mailto:mckenzie3249@rogers.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:41 AM To: TM; 'Bruce'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Wipers Don't you mean Jinglish???? Len -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of TM Sent: 30 July 2002 09:09 To: 'Bruce'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Wipers Engrish. For happy fun life! Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 10:09 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Wipers This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Not to poke fun at grammar, but I saw this on ebay and it made me giggle: Descriptions: 1.. The MTEC wipers are Made in JAPAN!!! 2.. Vented frame to reduce aerodynamic lift and provide perfect contact with the windshield. 3.. Combining the water-wiping coat to raise the effect and furthermore to obtain the excellent clear view. 4.. Avoiding buss. Quietly and smoothly wiping to make the glass water-wiping coat more efficient. 5.. The sharp water wiping can ensure the cleat view rapidly, and it also can reduce the burden of the motor and battery. 6.. Using outstanding weatherproof rubber. Achieving one million times wiping when tested in the factory. 7.. For high-speeding racers the organized- in -one wiper blade can ensure clear view. 8.. Include an universal quick lock adapter fits over 96% of vehicles for easy installation. 9.. Wiping off the rainwater with the high class natural rubber. Bruce '93 S4 high-speeding racer _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 12:27:19 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] MAF housings Message-ID: <000801c2396f$ed5c56c0$0d42fea9@newpc> Just wondering- those of you w/ experience in these things (Rod, Hap, Frank, Mike P., John P., etc. etc. etc.), is the problem w/ the MAF hot wire tearing due to flow through a constricted space? This solution appears to fix that, although it's not for I-5s, I don't see why you couldn't adapt it, although you'd need to modify the software accordingly. Note to bandwidth-restricted- this is pic-heavy: http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/906164.phtml Swaintech headers are pretty.... Too bad we can't just drop $13k and get those numbers.... or can we? Taka From FvAMI at aol.com Thu Aug 1 12:31:02 2002 From: FvAMI at aol.com (FvAMI@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost Message-ID: <3a.2a396948.2a7aae36@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 7/31/02 10:24:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, t44tq@mindspring.com writes: > I disagree with the possibility of the ECU hose off at the ECU- > with a leak, they make loud whooshing sounds, BTDT when I plumbed > my boost gauge. > > Even in the engine bay you should be able to hear it- I could hear > it clearly when I tore my Michelin Man hose. > > Taka > > > > > Obviously the MAP is not getting any pressure if is indicating 1.0. So it could be any hose leading to the MAP. I never said it was anything related to the intake hoses ... I said ECU hose in the engine compartment. There is the hose leading to the watertrap etc. in the engine compartment. I agree it has 0 to do with the Michelin Man hose or any intake hose for that matter. Best regards, Feico van der Laan From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 12:34:32 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost In-Reply-To: <3a.2a396948.2a7aae36@aol.com> Message-ID: <000d01c23970$ef256180$0d42fea9@newpc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] You also said ECU hose at the ECU, which is the specific case to which I'm referring. When that hose is off, with the stereo off you can clearly hear it leaking. Sounds like someone cut the valve stem off of a tire in the footwell. Psssssssss! Taka -----Original Message----- From: FvAMI@aol.com [mailto:FvAMI@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 11:31 AM To: t44tq@mindspring.com Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost In a message dated 7/31/02 10:24:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, t44tq@mindspring.com writes: I disagree with the possibility of the ECU hose off at the ECU- with a leak, they make loud whooshing sounds, BTDT when I plumbed my boost gauge. Even in the engine bay you should be able to hear it- I could hear it clearly when I tore my Michelin Man hose. Taka Obviously the MAP is not getting any pressure if is indicating 1.0. So it could be any hose leading to the MAP. I never said it was anything related to the intake hoses ... I said ECU hose in the engine compartment. There is the hose leading to the watertrap etc. in the engine compartment. I agree it has 0 to do with the Michelin Man hose or any intake hose for that matter. Best regards, Feico van der Laan -- From FvAMI at aol.com Thu Aug 1 12:54:03 2002 From: FvAMI at aol.com (FvAMI@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost Message-ID: <30.2aaf31e1.2a7ab39b@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 8/1/02 8:34:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time, t44tq@mindspring.com writes: > You also said ECU hose at the ECU, which is the specific case to which I'm > referring. > > When that hose is off, with the stereo off you can clearly hear it leaking. > Sounds like > someone cut the valve stem off of a tire in the footwell. Psssssssss! > > Taka > I was looking at all possibilities, for that matter there is a MAP hose inside the ECU but I have never heard of this one blowing off or breaking. I am not sure if there was a reference to a noiseless environment. Also are you sure if the hose is completely blown off (not leaking or torn) and under the ECU cover that you can still hear it? (I have had a leak which I could hear) I doubt you will hear the one at the Watertrap (in the engine compartment) under the plastic cover with all the connectors. Above the RPM connector (if I remember correctly) Best regards, Feico van der Laan From paulunm at msn.com Thu Aug 1 17:02:31 2002 From: paulunm at msn.com (Paul Friedenberg) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Calvin Craig? Message-ID: Calvin, Please email me if you are out there... _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From durian at boogie.com Thu Aug 1 11:10:42 2002 From: durian at boogie.com (Mike Durian) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT." Message-ID: <200208011610.g71GAglj023381@man.boogie.com> On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT, Robert Myers wrote: >George, > >Try this for size: your ignition switch did not return to the "run" >position but stayed in the "start" position. This keeps the starter >cranking an already running engine leading to starter burn up (hence smell >of electrics burning). It also keeps the load reduction relay engaged so >that HVAC, power windows, turn signals, headlights, etc. do not work. On >attempted restart the load reduction relay acts normally because the switch >returns to the "run" position and all the electrics appear to operate >normally however the engine won't start because the starter is >dead. Cure? Replace ignition switch and, likely, the starter or at least >the solenoid. FYI, I removed my starter last night despite the intentions of a very stubborn 16mm bolt head. Once removed, I took off the back end of the starter and literally poured the brushes out like so much sand. Clearly, I suffered the failure you describe. mike From skippertgore at hotmail.com Thu Aug 1 17:33:29 2002 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display Message-ID: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Hello everyone- Thanks for all the replies. I've seen both the rear view mirror and rear brake light V1 install websites. Seems many people would like to check out this link if I can find it. However, still no leads. Does anyone on the list know of a link to someone= 's personal website where they detailed an installation procedure for mounting= a V1 remote display inside the instrument cluster of their Audi? Google searches are still not netting me a match. TIA, -Matt, CT 92 s4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here[1] =3D=3D=3DReferences:=3D=3D=3D 1. http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c157??PI=3D44364 From aaront at cox-internet.com Thu Aug 1 11:40:29 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal turbo whine or is it a leak? Message-ID: <3D49647D.3090803@cox-internet.com> Hi listers, Ive been wondering if my car has some sort of boost leak but im not sure. As I have never driven another S its hard to know what it is supposed to sound and feel like. It seems sometimes the car does not pull as hard as at other times and may occasionally surge a bit under full pedal. Other times it pulls like a sled dog but smoother. It is a stock 95 avant with no boost gauge. If I nail it at around 3000 rpm I can hear the turbo begin to whine and im sure this is normal. Now if I apply some brake while keeping on the gas during this spool - up at say 3800, this whine will increase to quite a scream even though rpms do not increase. Is this the turbo continuing to spool up inspite of the rpms not increasing or is this some sort of boost leak? ( Don't worry - this is not commonly practiced) How can the turbo continue to spool up with out increase in engine rpm? Now another curious noise - not likely related - : If I let off at say 4500 and slow down with compression I can hear a slight sort of "burble" or puff/puff sound. Im quite certain this is not a back fire type noise as it is very subtle. It seems do diminish or go away when car is fully warmed up. Mabe small exaust leak? Should I rig up a boost gauge for test purposes? I really wish I could make it to one of the "events" to compare notes but until then Ill have to get by asking these silly questions. None of my local mechanics have a clue about the ins and outs of these cars. Thanks Aaron From KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com Thu Aug 1 13:49:01 2002 From: KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com (Paul Krasusky) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: your '95 S6 brakes/pads Message-ID: Hey Jan- Tx for the inquiry. The G60s are 2 pot floaters. Sorry, dunno about the A6 dif's, all I know is the rotors are about 10.9" diameter. My initial guess is they'd bolt right up, but I've cc'd the s-car-list here for better knowledge. Your right, don't know any Community Bankers, sorry 8-) I'm emailing you my #'s off list. Thanks again. -Paul Tolland, CT '95 //S6 '58 TR3A -----Original Message----- From: Jpinkowish@aol.com [mailto:Jpinkowish@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:35 PM To: krasuskyp@firstinterbank.com Subject: Re: your '95 S6 brakes/pads In a message dated 8/1/02 12:15:48 PM EDT, krasuskyp@firstinterbank.com writes: > Now that I've completed my 993tt brake install on my '95 //S6, I'd like > to sell my OE G60 front calipers to someone who could better use them. > They have no known issues and were 100% functional at the time of > removal last month at 92k, I just wanted the 993 brakes. Pads are > excellent. Asking $100.00, I'm in CT and will ship anywhere. Hi Paul, My brother recently bought a '97 A6 and wants to play with the front brakes. Several questions: --are the G60 S6 front calipers 2-pot or 4-pot? --are the S6 front discs same as A6 front discs? Different hat dimension(s)? I'll understand if you don't have these answers. I'll tell my bro to head for the A6 and S6 sites. BTW, my brother Tom is in Reading and Norwalk. You might recognize him from Americas Community Bankers, but I'm betting that First Interbank is not a community savings bank. Send along your work and home phones if you want to talk to him further. Thanks Paul. Jan Pinkowish '85 4ksq Bristol, CT From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 13:48:05 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002201c2397b$35947e80$0d42fea9@newpc> Matt- The coolest display I've seen, short of doing the mirror thing (which is mega-bucks), is a display mounted on the dash trim of an A4 (remote display guts underneath and housed in a smoked plexiglass housing). Search for "toyguy" on Audiworld and look up the specs- it's really sweet. Too rich for my blood- $150 or so, IIRC. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Matt Russell Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:33 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Hello everyone- Thanks for all the replies. I've seen both the rear view mirror and rear brake light V1 install websites. Seems many people would like to check out this link if I can find it. However, still no leads. Does anyone on the list know of a link to someone's personal website where they detailed an installation procedure for mounting a V1 remote display inside the instrument cluster of their Audi? Google searches are still not netting me a match. TIA, -Matt, CT 92 s4 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c157??PI=44364 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Thu Aug 1 17:50:08 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (bob.rossato@att.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display Message-ID: <20020801165011.SGDL11089.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> There are photos on the old S-Car Yahoo site. http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car- list/lst?.dir=3D/Stealth+V1&.src=3Dgr&.order=3D&.view=3Dt&.done=3Dh ttp%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst% 3f.dir=3D/Stealth%2bV1%26.src=3Dgr%26.view=3Dt Sorry for the long link. If that doesn't work try this one and select Stealth V1 http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst The photos are not full resolution like they used to be before we switched to Audifans, but you can get the gist of it. Bob > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > Hello everyone- > Thanks for all the replies. I've seen both the rear view mirror and rear > brake light V1 install websites. > Seems many people would like to check out this link if I can find it. > > However, still no leads. Does anyone on the list know of a link to someo= ne's > personal website where they detailed an installation procedure for mounti= ng a > V1 remote display inside the instrument cluster of their Audi? > > Google searches are still not netting me a match. > > TIA, > -Matt, CT > 92 s4 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here[1] > > =3D=3D=3DReferences:=3D=3D=3D > 1. http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c157??PI=3D44364 > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Thu Aug 1 17:50:08 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (bob.rossato@att.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display Message-ID: <20020801165112.SGXX11089.mtiwmhc22.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> There are photos on the old S-Car Yahoo site. http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car- list/lst?.dir=3D/Stealth+V1&.src=3Dgr&.order=3D&.view=3Dt&.done=3Dh ttp%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst% 3f.dir=3D/Stealth%2bV1%26.src=3Dgr%26.view=3Dt Sorry for the long link. If that doesn't work try this one and select Stealth V1 http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst The photos are not full resolution like they used to be before we switched to Audifans, but you can get the gist of it. Bob > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > Hello everyone- > Thanks for all the replies. I've seen both the rear view mirror and rear > brake light V1 install websites. > Seems many people would like to check out this link if I can find it. > > However, still no leads. Does anyone on the list know of a link to someo= ne's > personal website where they detailed an installation procedure for mounti= ng a > V1 remote display inside the instrument cluster of their Audi? > > Google searches are still not netting me a match. > > TIA, > -Matt, CT > 92 s4 > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- > Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here[1] > > =3D=3D=3DReferences:=3D=3D=3D > 1. http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c157??PI=3D44364 > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 1 13:57:37 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5444@NJ_DC_01> Me too? I am relatively certain this is what happened to me about 10 minutes ago. I start my car to go to lunch -- and there's a strange rattle from under the hood that doesn't go away. No HVAC, power windows, lights, etc. I pull off into a parking lot to investigate -- smell of burning electrics Noise from rear of engine sounds like the wheel bearing on a cheap rollerskate -- Step on/off clutch no change is sound. Staring at engine -- WTF -- it coughs and stalls. No restart. The stall is what bothers me though -- I hope the starter didn't take a flywheel tooth with it. I'm driving an s-car since 96 -- this is the first time I'm stranded! Bill M. -- Buy the starter now. You know it'll only be a few weeks before your car does it! Any BTDT on starter /ignition switch change, or any other ideas? regards, Bob (w/ZR-1 parts delivery car) -----Original Message----- From: Mike Durian [mailto:durian@boogie.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:11 PM To: Robert Myers Cc: George Kostiuk; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT, Robert Myers wrote: >George, > >Try this for size: your ignition switch did not return to the "run" >position but stayed in the "start" position. This keeps the starter >cranking an already running engine leading to starter burn up (hence smell >of electrics burning). It also keeps the load reduction relay engaged so >that HVAC, power windows, turn signals, headlights, etc. do not work. On >attempted restart the load reduction relay acts normally because the switch >returns to the "run" position and all the electrics appear to operate >normally however the engine won't start because the starter is >dead. Cure? Replace ignition switch and, likely, the starter or at least >the solenoid. FYI, I removed my starter last night despite the intentions of a very stubborn 16mm bolt head. Once removed, I took off the back end of the starter and literally poured the brushes out like so much sand. Clearly, I suffered the failure you describe. mike _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From wmahoney at disk.com Thu Aug 1 13:11:24 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Whear the Yahoo archives? was Valentine 1 remote display Message-ID: <3D496BBC.4D573199@disk.com> Matt, As dennis miller says I could be wrong, but check the old Yahoo s-car files/pics/archives etc. Woops they're gone I see.. Anyone know where they went? But I think pics were there. In the in dash set up I wondered where the mute button went? And it looked like a lotta work for my lazy ass. Required pretty much a remote labottomy IIRC. I believe some listers simply lay it on the RH side of the ledge by the clock. HTH Cheers' Bill m - once again providing dribble to nowhere possibly. From wmahoney at disk.com Thu Aug 1 13:28:32 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Message-ID: <3D496FC0.CA1915EA@disk.com> Bob, Okay put me down for that. Lets get the 150hp model though as you never know when you're gonna need to use as the auxilary engine. This sounds like a nasty breakdown. They're all scary to me. Hope mine doesnt go as I'm headed up to MI this weekend -8'O 75mph speed limit in parts. But maybe not a good time for pushing the envelope with starter about to go? AND 95 degree temps. And thanks for being the scout! Bill m - mit uber avant. Man this car runs great! (he says while chewing his fingers) From skippertgore at hotmail.com Thu Aug 1 18:43:35 2002 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display Message-ID: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Bob & Steve- A HUGE Thank-You! That's what I've been trying to find, just had a huge brain freeze as to where I'd seen it. Bill & Taka - Thanks for your responses. Taka, I emailed you back and it was rejected: so thanks, and I'll check out that other install you mentioned. Rob & James: check out the link that Bob sent to the list. That is what I was referring to. God, I love this list... -Matt, CT 92 s4 > >There are photos on the old S-Car Yahoo site. > >http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car- >list/lst?.dir=/Stealth+V1&.src=gr&.order=&.view=t&.done=h >ttp%3a//photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst% >3f.dir=/Stealth%2bV1%26.src=gr%26.view=t > >Sorry for the long link. If that doesn't work try this >one and select Stealth V1 > >http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst > >The photos are not full resolution like they used to be >before we switched to Audifans, but you can get the gist >of it. > >Bob ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: Click Here[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c156??PI=44364 From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 14:44:41 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Further Instrument Cluster Investigations Message-ID: <002401c23983$1d7fa9c0$0d42fea9@newpc> Having verified that UrS instrument clusters use the same harness connections, I'm left to wonder what the differences are between: '92 S4 printed circuit board 4A0 919 059M '91 200 printed circuit board 443 919 059AD '92 S4 outer circuit board (the one on the very back of the cluster) 4A0 919 064H '91 200 447 919 064BD What I did find was that all 100s and 200s use the same printed circuit boards but the outer board that has some stuff for the trip computer, etc. are different, probably due to the boost gauge and some other differences in the turbo models. Has anyone tried swapping the two? Meaning, using a S4 printed circuit board in a type 44 or vice versa? According to the diagrams, they look very similar in dimension as well, with the additional width in the cluster coming from the cluster package itself and the differences in the aux. gauge area. Taka From aaront at cox-internet.com Thu Aug 1 12:49:33 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start References: <3D496FC0.CA1915EA@disk.com> Message-ID: <3D4974AD.5060801@cox-internet.com> Regarding these failing starters due to ignition switches staying on - Mine does it from time to time and last week my mother drove the car all week with me away. I hate to think if she drove merrily along with starter engaged........ Anybody pressed the stealer regarding ignition switch recalls?? Aaron Bill Mahoney wrote: >Bob, >Okay put me down for that. Lets get the 150hp model though as you never >know when you're gonna need to use as the auxilary engine. >This sounds like a nasty breakdown. They're all scary to me. >Hope mine doesnt go as I'm headed up to MI this weekend -8'O >75mph speed limit in parts. But maybe not a good time for pushing the >envelope with starter about to go? AND 95 degree temps. >And thanks for being the scout! >Bill m - mit uber avant. Man this car runs great! (he says while chewing >his fingers) > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From brett at cloud9.net Thu Aug 1 15:00:26 2002 From: brett at cloud9.net (Brett Dikeman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] air/oil separator group purchase Message-ID: Folks, I'm working on a possible group purchase here and wanted to gauge interest. As many of you know, a lot of oil manages to make its way into the intake system through the crankcase breather system on the I-5 20v turbos, despite the restriction valve...this oil causes a multitude of problems, particularly in chipped cars: -reduced intercooler efficiency from oil coating -idle stabilizer valve gumming, throttle gumming -deposits on valves, combustion chamber surfaces -O2 sensor and catalytic converter fouling While one can install a catch can with a washable filter and vent to the atmosphere, this is not emissions compliant. One could also install Total Seal gapless rings to all but eliminate blowby, but such an upgrade isn't exactly easy to install :-) Far as I can tell, the best solution is an air-oil separator. I've contacted one company, Stef's Fabrication, which makes such a unit, to see about pricing, sizes/connections, etc. No doubt one of their questions, eventually, will be "how many units?" So, if you're interested, please drop me a line(do not cc the list(s) for "me too" emails!) and let me know if you'd be interested in such a widget. I'm taking a rough guess that pricing will be right around $100. If you can handle a screwdriver without stabbing yourself, you should be able to handle installing this thing. Only hardware required should be two short lengths of hose the same size as the crankcase breather hose up by the restriction valve(that 90 degree thing), two plastic or metal sleeves to join the two, and something to attach the separator to, say, the old windshield washer mount on 200q20vs(not sure about where S4/S6 owners would put it, I'd have to study a few engine compartment photos.) Maintenance would probably entail occasionally draining oil out of it(there is a draincock on it) and maybe once a year washing out with simple green or somesuch. Brett -- ---- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ http://www.apple.com/switch/ From bob.rossato at att.net Thu Aug 1 19:17:21 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (bob.rossato@att.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Message-ID: <20020801181723.TZFL7441.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> There was a recall done years back, but Audi will not cover it again. I have tried, and I know several others have as well, but have not been successful in getting Audi to cover the repairs for a second switch. So, unless your car never went in for the original recall, you are SOL. I replaced the electrical half of ignition switch myself. It's about $30. However, it isn't perfect as it is difficult to turn sometimes and you have to be careful not to force it. I'm wondering whether the mechanical portion of the ignition switch, i.e. tumbler half, may not also need replacement and may in fact be what causes the electrical half to break. Bob > Regarding these failing starters due to ignition switches staying on - > Mine does it from time to time and last week my mother drove the car > all week with me away. I hate to think if she drove merrily along with > starter engaged........ > Anybody pressed the stealer regarding ignition switch recalls?? > Aaron > > Bill Mahoney wrote: > > >Bob, > >Okay put me down for that. Lets get the 150hp model though as you never > >know when you're gonna need to use as the auxilary engine. > >This sounds like a nasty breakdown. They're all scary to me. > >Hope mine doesnt go as I'm headed up to MI this weekend -8'O > >75mph speed limit in parts. But maybe not a good time for pushing the > >envelope with starter about to go? AND 95 degree temps. > >And thanks for being the scout! > >Bill m - mit uber avant. Man this car runs great! (he says while chewing > >his fingers) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From johnnyalpha at beeb.net Thu Aug 1 20:56:22 2002 From: johnnyalpha at beeb.net (Johnny Alpha) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Brett, Is this the same thing as a compressed air oil seperator at half (or less) of your expected price, or am I missing something? JA -----Original Message----- From: 200q20v-admin@audifans.com [mailto:200q20v-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Brett Dikeman Sent: 01 August 2002 19:00 To: 200q20v@audifans.com; quattro@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: air/oil separator group purchase I'm taking a rough guess that pricing will be right around $100. From pizzoman at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 13:04:52 2002 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] electrical problems, now no boost In-Reply-To: <000401c2391b$bf0807f0$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: <20020801190452.29474.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> I think he means vacuum leak there, champ. --- TM wrote: > I disagree with the possibility of the ECU hose off > at the ECU- > with a leak, they make loud whooshing sounds, BTDT > when I plumbed > my boost gauge. > > Even in the engine bay you should be able to hear > it- I could hear > it clearly when I tore my Michelin Man hose. > > Taka > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From mail at red-wing.co.uk Thu Aug 1 21:08:10 2002 From: mail at red-wing.co.uk (Adrian Hart) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? Message-ID: ... apart from a bit rough. An opportunity has come up - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1753736149 What's the WORST thing that this might be? Depending on the output of your collective wisdom I might well take a calculated risk on this one... Cheers Adrian From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 16:54:43 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <003701c23995$480b36c0$0d42fea9@newpc> Worst thing that could happen? Crank key broke, damaged the crank, bent the valves and basically trashed the whole engine, but it fires 4 cylinders. You asked for the worst.... :-) Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Hart Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:08 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? ... apart from a bit rough. An opportunity has come up - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1753736149 What's the WORST thing that this might be? Depending on the output of your collective wisdom I might well take a calculated risk on this one... Cheers Adrian _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From henryb at tsainc.com Thu Aug 1 16:57:42 2002 From: henryb at tsainc.com (henryb@tsainc.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Normal turbo whine or is it a leak? Message-ID: This is a multipart message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Aaron, Regarding your second point about the puff/puff sound when you let off the gas (after accelerating with boost)... this is the sound that the stock waste-gate makes under these conditions. If you have been to see any of the racing quattro's -- they make a similar sound only more of a screech as they change gears, the street S-cars are much more subtle. Now with regard to your questions on the turbo spool-up sounds and why it doesn't always pull as hard other times. The over-boost mode on these cars require a number of conditions to exist for over-boost to happen. If for example, if the coolant temperature is not hot enough (approx 75c), then you won't get any over-boost. As well, there are a number of other factors that effect the boost. If you have not read sjm's pages on the "ABC's of Turbo Boost", you should check it out, it has alot of excellent and detailed information (sjmautotechnik.com). Now your point about the surging during over-boost acceleration... I too, have experienced that sensation on my '92 urS4... and I don't know what causes that, although it is very minor. Maybe some other listers will have more insight on that condition? Brent Original message: Message: 5 Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 10:40:29 -0600 From: Aaron To: Audi - Scars Subject: [s-cars] Normal turbo whine or is it a leak? Hi listers, Ive been wondering if my car has some sort of boost leak but im not sure. As I have never driven another S its hard to know what it is supposed to sound and feel like. It seems sometimes the car does not pull as hard as at other times and may occasionally surge a bit under full pedal. Other times it pulls like a sled dog but smoother. It is a stock 95 avant with no boost gauge. If I nail it at around 3000 rpm I can hear the turbo begin to whine and im sure this is normal. Now if I apply some brake while keeping on the gas during this spool - up at say 3800, this whine will increase to quite a scream even though rpms do not increase. Is this the turbo continuing to spool up inspite of the rpms not increasing or is this some sort of boost leak? ( Don't worry - this is not commonly practiced) How can the turbo continue to spool up with out increase in engine rpm? Now another curious noise - not likely related - : If I let off at say 4500 and slow down with compression I can hear a slight sort of "burble" or puff/puff sound. Im quite certain this is not a back fire type noise as it is very subtle. It seems do diminish or go away when car is fully warmed up. Mabe small exaust leak? Should I rig up a boost gauge for test purposes? I really wish I could make it to one of the "events" to compare notes but until then Ill have to get by asking these silly questions. None of my local mechanics have a clue about the ins and outs of these cars. Thanks Aaron From brett at cloud9.net Thu Aug 1 17:10:13 2002 From: brett at cloud9.net (Brett Dikeman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: At 7:56 PM +0100 8/1/02, Johnny Alpha wrote: >Brett, > >Is this the same thing as a compressed air oil seperator at half (or less) >of your expected price, or am I missing something? Hmm...I was under the impression such widgets were designed for high pressure, where restriction isn't as much of a problem...but if the company that makes it will vouch for automotive operation(where restriction would be a very bad thing; crankcase pressures need to be kept as low as possible for us 3B folk with distributors), sure, I'll entertain the idea. There are airplane air/oil separators, but they generally cost $200-300 new. As for those who asked about hardware etc, the intention it to get them to make a batch for us with hose barbs so that all you need to buy is a short length of hose, 4 hose clamps, etc...you get the idea. This is just a purchase of the separator; I assume you're all big boys+girls and can handle a trip to the auto parts store :-) I'm mulling over mounting; I'm still waiting for an answer back from Stef's. For the 200's, it would be nice to mount something to that washer fluid bottle holder without drilling etc. Haven't had a chance to look a pic of an S-car compartment yet. BTW...for those debating going the "easy" route of a catch can w/filter vented to the atmosphere, you will probably not pass emissions with such a setup...there's a good chance the tech might point to the tank and say "sorry..." Say what you will about winks, nods, and bills slipped...but its a headache I personally would rather not deal with, and I don't feel great about making mods to my car that increase its emissions... Brett -- ---- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ http://www.apple.com/switch/ From otw185 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 1 14:53:39 2002 From: otw185 at yahoo.com (otw185) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Boost fixed In-Reply-To: <3D494B11.87255FBC@spotgraphicsinc.com> Message-ID: <20020801205339.64311.qmail@web20905.mail.yahoo.com> Jim wins: your number 1 was the culprit. I've added a new battery as well but windows are still acting up. Will try to replace the vacuum servo. Thanks for all who responded to help. Scott --- jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com wrote: > Hey there, > I'm not sure if Feico gave you enough detail re: > what he thinks is > causing your noboost situation. I agree with him on > both counts though, > I have had both situations that he talks about: > 1. In the Engine compartment (most likely, happens > to almost all of > these cars before 70k miles): Attached to the > firewall JUST under the > strut brace is a black plastic piece secured by two > plastic fasteners. > (About 12x3x2 in size). Rotoate fasteners 90 > degrees, the cover lifts > off. There is a small canister under there with a > 1/4" back hose that > is probably off. Reattach using a new hoseclamp > from an autoparts > store. You cannot reuse the original clamp. Be > careful with the > fasteners, they need some pressure to turnthem but > snap easily. Not a > big deal to drive without the cover while you're > waiting for new > fasteners to arrive.... > > If it's not #1, then check: > #2: The boost hose is off at the ECU - if your car > is not chipped, you > need to cut the carpet to get to the ECU. If it is > chipped, it should > already be cut. Cut the carpet at the seam on the > left side of the > passeger foot well. It should be covered up by the > floormat. Pull the > carpet back, under the screws holdign the > floorboards in place. Take > the boards out, and look at the ECU. There is a > 1/4" pressure lne going > into the side of it. This might have come off. IF > so, reattach using a > new clamp. If you're chipped, this could definitely > happen. If you're > stock, I have not heard of this failure on a stock > car that has never > had its ECU out. I'd probably hesitate to cut the > carpet before I was > sure this was the problem. > > #1 in my car caused the cutoff at 4000 rpm's. The > computer thinks it is > getting too much boost and shuts things down. > > #2 in my car this situation gave the normally > aspirated feeling. > Happened when my tech took the ECU out for > amodification and forgot to > reattach the line. I'm drivign around thinking, > gee, I should have gone > for a more radical chipset..... > > Anyway, it's probably situation #1, which can be > fixed in 10 minutesa nd > for less than 75 cents. > > Jim K > 93S4 > 90CQ > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Thu Aug 1 17:56:35 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADEBB@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Matt, Here's the original post to go along with the photo's... Cheers, /James. -----Original Message----- From: Dean Ferrera [SMTP:dino.deanf@verizon.net] Sent: January 21, 2002 2:12 PM To: s-car-list@yahoogroups.com Subject: [s-cars] V1 Remote Display mounted in IC It's been awhile since I actually did this modification. Looking at the pictures I don't believe I was trying to document this; I think I dropped the ball on this one. Let's see, first I removed the IC using one of the many procedures already published. I can't stress enough how easy it is to scratch the top of the steering column. Even the slightest scratch will be in plain view for many years to come. You must cover the steering column before actually pulling the IC from the dash. The other thing to be careful of are the knobs for the trip meter and clock. I think I put one in backwards one time and it looked fine but didn't work. Just make sure you know how they came out. Anyway, I pulled the IC apart to see how much room was behind the panel (Photo 1). There is just enough room to do this, everything is tight but it almost seems too good to be true. The remote display has to be completely butchered (Photo 2-3). From memory I believe the side with the power connector is the same side as the mute button. This is important because the board is too large for the trip computer location. The power connector (RJ11) has to be bent up 90 degrees and the mute button cut off. Then it will fit perfectly. I used hot melt glue to hold the power connector at a 90 degree to the board. The power wire that I used was about a 4" piece; the kind you would use for a hanging wall phone. I used this so I could have a connecter behind the IC when removing it in the future. There is a longer piece with a coupler on the end which runs to the power connector. This short piece had to be modified as well, because there is just enough room for the connector on the remote display to fit behind the IC face. (Photos 4-6) Basically you need the wire to stick out of the side of the connector at a 90 degree angle. I made a sharp bend where the wire will fit through a hole in the IC Board, and finally out the back of the IC (Photo 7). The remote display face also has to be cut. Now I believe there was a small decision to be made here. Without modifying the IC face plate, the hole for the trip computer is just too small to see the entire V1 remote display. I decide to cover up a bit of the arrows since I wouldn't loose any important info, you can still see them very well. So I cut the remote display right about where the hole for the mute button was, but you should measure it with the IC trip computer location. Don't worry about a perfect cut; the edges will be covered by the IC face plate. I used hot meld glue to hold the remote display face to the IC face panel (Photo 8). The other modification was the false trip computer cover. I decided to just cut mine to the proper size and deal with it later if I was going to remove the V1. I'm not sure how you would get around cutting this. The bottom of the piece is the location of some of the indicators for the IC (Upper right in photo 1). MAKE SURE YOU TEST THE DISPLAY before putting the IC back in the car. The first time I did this mod some of the lights weren't working. I don't remember to well, but I think I had to check the connections to the power connector. The fact that I cannot remember leads me to believe that the problem wasn't major. Photos 9-10 show the remote display installed in the IC. Photos 11-13 are just some other shots of the dash that have the V1 in place. I'm sorry to say I don't have any night shots of the V1 which is weird, because I thought I took some. Overall I think it was worth the time and money spent ten fold. I love the location and works perfectly. Some added bonuses: The remote display I used works with all the V1s that I have tried. The older V1s that didn't have the x, k, ka, etc. lights still work with this remote display just as they did previously; these lights just aren't used. Also, the mute and volume functions still work from the main unit and since I have that located above the rear view and to toward the passenger side, I can still make adjustments that way. Yes, I have thought of using the remote volume control. I guess I should have done that at the same time, because I lost motivation now that this setup works so well for me. Another concern was that the display would need a dimmer, but that is already incorporated in the V1; there is a photo cell right on the remote display that measures the amount of light and it works very well. (I think all V1s have this). Well I can't really think of anything else. If there are any questions just email me at dino@s-cars.org . I think this would be a nice post to add to one of our websites; maybe after the bugs are worked out. I uploaded the pics to the s-car yahoo groups site at: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/s-car-list/lst?.dir=/Stealth+V1 Good Luck, Dean '95 S6 [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe, email: s-car-list-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From mlped at qwest.net Thu Aug 1 16:07:59 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase In-Reply-To: Message-ID: ~-----Original Message----- ~From: On Behalf Of Brett Dikeman ~Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 2:10 PM .... ~ ~There are airplane air/oil separators, but they generally cost ~$200-300 new. ~ Can't we take a pass on the "must be operable while inverted" and negative G's certification requirements? Please, just this once? From brucem105 at comcast.net Thu Aug 1 18:16:11 2002 From: brucem105 at comcast.net (Bruce) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Here is the Valentine 1 remote display website References: Message-ID: <110f01c239a0$aba764a0$2c012d44@cg912539g> Sorry. I was out for a bit, I should be ashamed of myself for not getting this answer back to everyone sooner! http://www.apexcone.com/Radar/RadarLove.html Bruce '93 S4, V1 hardwired but not integrated ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matt Russell" To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:33 PM Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Hello everyone- Thanks for all the replies. I've seen both the rear view mirror and rear brake light V1 install websites. Seems many people would like to check out this link if I can find it. However, still no leads. Does anyone on the list know of a link to someone's personal website where they detailed an installation procedure for mounting a V1 remote display inside the instrument cluster of their Audi? Google searches are still not netting me a match. TIA, -Matt, CT 92 s4 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/1HM1ENUS/c157??PI=44364 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From george at kostiuk.net Thu Aug 1 18:45:34 2002 From: george at kostiuk.net (George Kostiuk) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start In-Reply-To: <200208011610.g71GAglj023381@man.boogie.com> References: Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020801174013.0451ee20@pop.etob.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Just got my car back...new switch, new starter. Can't complain that much, cost C$750 (US$500) for parts, labor, taxes. Have the old switch and will check part no. -- just because the repair history says the "KB" ignition switch recall campaign was done, doesn't meant the dealer actually did the repair -- could have billed Audi for the work, then sold the new switch thru the parts counter for more $$$. My bad switch is part # 4A0 905 849. Other marks has the logo "LK" and "8227" on the rear black plastic. Good luck with your starter repair. George Kostiuk 96 S6 (now starts!) At 10:10 AM 01/08/2002 -0600, Mike Durian wrote: >On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT, Robert Myers wrote: > >George, > > > >Try this for size: your ignition switch did not return to the "run" > >position but stayed in the "start" position. This keeps the starter > >cranking an already running engine leading to starter burn up (hence smell > >of electrics burning). It also keeps the load reduction relay engaged so > >that HVAC, power windows, turn signals, headlights, etc. do not work. On > >attempted restart the load reduction relay acts normally because the switch > >returns to the "run" position and all the electrics appear to operate > >normally however the engine won't start because the starter is > >dead. Cure? Replace ignition switch and, likely, the starter or at least > >the solenoid. > >FYI, >I removed my starter last night despite the intentions of a very stubborn >16mm bolt head. Once removed, I took off the back end of the starter >and literally poured the brushes out like so much sand. > >Clearly, I suffered the failure you describe. > >mike From pete3633 at bellsouth.net Thu Aug 1 19:10:08 2002 From: pete3633 at bellsouth.net (John Petersen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] re: MAF housings In-Reply-To: <20020801161341.B27026EC@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801180641.00a664f8@mail.bellsouth.net> Taka, et al, Yeah, you can put an MAF in a different housing, but it completely changes its characteristics, requiring full remapping of one of the chips in the ECU (BTDT). This is _not_ just an addition/subtraction or % difference problem, it's a mess, and significant effort to get working properly. If possible, stick with vendors who package such things with their products. -John Message: 7 From: "TM" To: "S-Car-List" Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:27:19 -0400 Subject: [s-cars] MAF housings Just wondering- those of you w/ experience in these things (Rod, Hap, Frank, Mike P., John P., etc. etc. etc.), is the problem w/ the MAF hot wire tearing due to flow through a constricted space? This solution appears to fix that, although it's not for I-5s, I don't see why you couldn't adapt it, although you'd need to modify the software accordingly. Note to bandwidth-restricted- this is pic-heavy: http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/906164.phtml Swaintech headers are pretty.... Too bad we can't just drop $13k and get those numbers.... or can we? Taka From CaptMagu at aol.com Thu Aug 1 19:15:15 2002 From: CaptMagu at aol.com (CaptMagu@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase Message-ID: <173.c4266cf.2a7b0cf3@aol.com> But Mike How will I ever get my car inverted and still keep the engine running? Hap, rolling around in Evergreen, Maguire From mlped at qwest.net Thu Aug 1 17:15:40 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase In-Reply-To: <173.c4266cf.2a7b0cf3@aol.com> Message-ID: Hap - I suspect by sustaining a loss of multi engine licensing certification, yes? Mike, not smok'n, but then again not moving either in Colorado, P. ~-----Original Message----- ~From: CaptMagu@aol.com [mailto:CaptMagu@aol.com] ~Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:15 PM ~To: mlped@qwest.net; brett@cloud9.net; johnnyalpha@beeb.net; ~200q20v@audifans.com; quattro@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com ~Subject: Re: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase ~ ~ ~But Mike ~ ~How will I ever get my car inverted and still keep the engine running? ~ ~Hap, rolling around in Evergreen, Maguire ~ ~ From panderso at maine.rr.com Thu Aug 1 19:51:18 2002 From: panderso at maine.rr.com (Peter Anderson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? In-Reply-To: <20020801181723.TZFL7441.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: On 08/01/02 2:17 PM, "bob.rossato@att.net" wrote: > There was a recall done years back, but Audi will not > cover it again. I have tried, and I know several others > have as well, but have not been successful in getting > Audi to cover the repairs for a second switch. > > So, unless your car never went in for the original > recall, you are SOL. > Bob, Do you know what the recall campaign was called? I want to look through my records to see if it was done. -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed From Rfeagleye at aol.com Thu Aug 1 19:56:40 2002 From: Rfeagleye at aol.com (Rfeagleye@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] OEM 1992 S4 Floor Mats...Rings or Quattro Logo? Message-ID: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I want to buy a new set, the dealership order a Quattro set, car has an old rings set. I just want to match what it had originally, picky I know! From wmahoney at disk.com Thu Aug 1 19:03:00 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase Message-ID: <3D49BE23.F7EFAF62@disk.com> >dribbled previously- ~There are airplane air/oil separators, but they generally cost ~$200-300 new. ~ Can't we take a pass on the "must be operable while inverted" and negative G's certification requirements? Please, just this once? "How will I ever get my car inverted and still keep the engine running?" Hap, Start atop "Evergreen" mountain... 30 seconds WOT ..... eyes closed... full pull back, for a very, very quick loop:) I think you'll find this to be alot of fun. Make sure you have a spotter and don't tell the wife about this new trick of yours either. Bill m - Chicago "Loopy" From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 20:06:40 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] re: MAF housings In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801180641.00a664f8@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <004101c239b0$18f7b730$0d42fea9@newpc> John- Thanks. I know this, and it would require new software, but how is that any different from Mike P.'s efforts? I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, just wondering if you have BTDT and can share some insight into what it actually takes to remap the MAF outputs. Aren't there fluid dynamics modeling programs that can simulate some of this data so the learning curve isn't so steep? After all, we're talking about a smooth, round housing made of aluminum. Or does that take some massive processing power (like taking 2 yrs. on a P4)? Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of John Petersen Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:10 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] re: MAF housings Taka, et al, Yeah, you can put an MAF in a different housing, but it completely changes its characteristics, requiring full remapping of one of the chips in the ECU (BTDT). This is _not_ just an addition/subtraction or % difference problem, it's a mess, and significant effort to get working properly. If possible, stick with vendors who package such things with their products. -John Message: 7 From: "TM" To: "S-Car-List" Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:27:19 -0400 Subject: [s-cars] MAF housings Just wondering- those of you w/ experience in these things (Rod, Hap, Frank, Mike P., John P., etc. etc. etc.), is the problem w/ the MAF hot wire tearing due to flow through a constricted space? This solution appears to fix that, although it's not for I-5s, I don't see why you couldn't adapt it, although you'd need to modify the software accordingly. Note to bandwidth-restricted- this is pic-heavy: http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/906164.phtml Swaintech headers are pretty.... Too bad we can't just drop $13k and get those numbers.... or can we? Taka _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mlped at qwest.net Thu Aug 1 18:21:21 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] re: MAF housings In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020801180641.00a664f8@mail.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: John - I believe Dinan, among others does it as a part of some of their kits. & I believe it is exactly that, the swap of stock electronics into a larger tube. These particular BMW MAF's (unlike the older UrS4/6's) are designed so that the sensor can be removed and replaced; in Dinan's case they keep the sensor and replace the barrel/venturi it is sitting in. A kid out in California had it done with a after market turbo kit he had worked up for a Passat VR6, but then as you point out, a tuner with one of those magic Green Lantern decoder/encoder rings, Garrett Lim of GIAC, was brought in to do up a set of custom chip profiles with the car on a dyno. From jlabombard at attbi.com Thu Aug 1 20:45:13 2002 From: jlabombard at attbi.com (Jeff LaBombard att acount) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Hoppen Allroad in this weeks Autoweek Message-ID: In this weeks Autoweek (Aug 5), there is an article about Hoppens's modified Allroad, 320HP, and 352 ft lbs tq. One of the nead mods was the ride height, they repgrammed it to be lower, less body roll. Here is the article: ---------------------------------------- If you have difficulty comprehending the Audi allroad, find solace in the fact you?re not alone. Josef Hoppen doesn?t get it, either. ?What is it?? asks the former director of motorsport for Volkswagen/Audi of America. ?A station wagon? SUV? Even Audi hasn?t defined this car.? Hoppen is a man who finds answers. You don?t oversee six straight Pikes Peak wins and numerous Trans-Am, IMSA and Can-Am championships any other way. His company, Joe Hoppen Motorsport, has built a reputation as the Audi tuner for enthusiasts in North America. When he called to tell us he had a 320-hp allroad performance package available, our curiosity was piqued. Allroad as driver?s car? HOPPEN AUDI ALLROAD ON SALE: Now BASE PRICE: $45,725 (est.) POWERTRAIN: 2.7-liter, 320-hp twin-turbo V6; awd, five-speed automatic 0 TO 60 MPH: 6.3 seconds (est.) EPA MPG, CITY/HWY: 16/22 (est.) Using custom-engineered pieces supplied by German-based Motoren-Technik-Mayer (MTM), Hoppen and son Mike have given this poster child for automotive schizophrenia a whole new personality. Hoppen starts the treatment by replacing the stock exhaust with a 90-mm stainless-steel cat-back unit consisting of specially designed center and rear mufflers. Reprogramming the engine and transmission control units yields higher revs and quicker shifts than those provided by the stock 2.7-liter twin-turbo V6 and five-speed Tiptronic transmission. Replacing the turbo-bypass valves allows for quicker boost recovery between shifts and during on-and-off-throttle driving situations. Toss in spark plugs that avoid fouling and then suddenly this Audi allroad has a new purpose: to be driven. Hard. Hoppen claims the modifications are good for 320 hp at 5280 rpm and 352 lb-ft of torque at 4200 rpm. But make no mistake: This is no ?when is it going to blow up?? import-drag special. Hoppen replaces the throttle body boot simply because the original is known to tear on occasion; such attention solidifies Hoppen?s position atop the performance tuner heap. ?No one comes close to MTM in quality,? says Hoppen. ?We want to make sure the car is more fun to drive and more powerful, but also more reliable. If we see things that can improve reliability, we change them.? Not content with just adding power, Mike Hoppen modified the control unit for the allroad?s ride height-adjustable, four-position pneumatic suspension. Each height setting is now lower than the corresponding position on the factory-spec allroad, resulting in less body roll and sportier handling. Customers who plan on taking their cars off-road can specify a control unit that raises the ride height over the stock version. Rounding out the package are 15-mm wheel spacers and tinted windows, giving this allroad a more aggressive appearance. Behind the wheel, the sheer civility of Hoppen?s creation impressed us. Lower the suspension, stand on the gas and the allroad rockets toward the horizon without hesitation. Turbo lag? Barely noticeable. Transmission? One of the smoothest, quickest automatics we?ve driven. Exhaust note? Aggressive, yet in no way intrusive or annoying. Schizophrenia? Not anymore. Josef Hoppen now calls it the AAA?allroad, allsport, allwheel. Mike Hoppen calls it an SAV?sport activity vehicle. We?ll call it levelheaded, From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 1 21:34:09 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: your car problem Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C544A@NJ_DC_01> The diagnosis was 100% accurate. A sincere thanks to all of you. Ignition switch broke, stuck in "start" position, and fried the starter. $130 for starter & switch + 2 hours install and all is well! The plastic electrical portion of the ignition switch broke from fatigue at the return spring. You can't see this until you take it out of the car. Apparently the original part has been superceded to a "B" sffix which has a different return spring design. Thanks again, this list is great! Bob -----Original Message----- From: John [mailto:john@underwoodgroup.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:36 PM To: 'Robert Pastore' Subject: your car problem Bob, it's the switch sticking in "start". Mine did EXACTLY the same thing, blew the starter, had to pop-start it with the help of a couple of guys stronger than I am. Replaced the starter and the switch (which is a 10-20$ Porsche part, btw). Stalling? Well, that part I'm less certain of.... Thanks, John Petersen The Underwood Group 5001 Weston Parkway Suite 105 Cary, NC 27513 800-409-4498 919-677-1824 From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 1 21:25:22 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5449@NJ_DC_01> Bill: I dunno....if you were at the Glen a few weeks ago, there was a guy in a BMW who experimented with driving while inverted. Didn't do much for the shiney side of the car. Luckily, no one was hurt. -----Original Message----- From: wmahoney@disk.com [mailto:wmahoney@disk.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 7:03 PM To: CaptMagu@aol.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase >dribbled previously- ~There are airplane air/oil separators, but they generally cost ~$200-300 new. ~ Can't we take a pass on the "must be operable while inverted" and negative G's certification requirements? Please, just this once? "How will I ever get my car inverted and still keep the engine running?" Hap, Start atop "Evergreen" mountain... 30 seconds WOT ..... eyes closed... full pull back, for a very, very quick loop:) I think you'll find this to be alot of fun. Make sure you have a spotter and don't tell the wife about this new trick of yours either. Bill m - Chicago "Loopy" _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 1 21:40:02 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:28 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C544B@NJ_DC_01> Guys: The ignition switch is a $20 part, and installs in under an hour. BTDT, less than an hour ago. Why bother with the aggrivation of trying to get it covered at the dealer? -----Original Message----- From: Peter Anderson [mailto:panderso@maine.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:51 PM To: bob.rossato@att.net Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] switch recall? On 08/01/02 2:17 PM, "bob.rossato@att.net" wrote: > There was a recall done years back, but Audi will not > cover it again. I have tried, and I know several others > have as well, but have not been successful in getting > Audi to cover the repairs for a second switch. > > So, unless your car never went in for the original > recall, you are SOL. > Bob, Do you know what the recall campaign was called? I want to look through my records to see if it was done. -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From tfrank at symyx.com Thu Aug 1 18:51:26 2002 From: tfrank at symyx.com (Trevor Frank) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? Message-ID: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39A56E19@XENA2000.symyx.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I remember seeing a few way back when, but could only find one. I am thinking of building a Exhaust Manifold and I figure it's best to copy the best. Thanks. Trevor. From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 1 21:58:42 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C544D@NJ_DC_01> Adrian: Right now, the price equals a 6 speed trans and an ECU. An AAN isn't cheap, even when damaged. The direct iginition is highly desired by by every other I-5t owner, especially for 3b owners. Your've got a rear sway bar, the best factory springs, and a trip computer -- all of these are 1992 only. If the price stays reasonable, it's a risk I'd take. Bob -----Original Message----- From: TM [mailto:t44tq@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:55 PM To: 'Adrian Hart'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? Worst thing that could happen? Crank key broke, damaged the crank, bent the valves and basically trashed the whole engine, but it fires 4 cylinders. You asked for the worst.... :-) Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Hart Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:08 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? ... apart from a bit rough. An opportunity has come up - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1753736149 What's the WORST thing that this might be? Depending on the output of your collective wisdom I might well take a calculated risk on this one... Cheers Adrian _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Thu Aug 1 22:19:22 2002 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display In-Reply-To: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADEBB@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> from "James Murray (LMC)" at Aug 01, 2002 04:56:35 PM Message-ID: <200208020119.g721JNI10069@elektro.cmhnet.org> The pictures and Dean's writeup are now on this set of web pages: http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~audi/V1/ I think I'll install something like this in my S6 IC, and I'll include updated pictures and stuff after it's done. For right now, Dean's writeup is pasted with each picture so you can see what he did. - Charlie Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features 96 Dodge Ram - 30 PSI, w/Cummins turbo diesel From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 1 22:28:35 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C544D@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <004f01c239c3$ebf71640$0d42fea9@newpc> Bob- I forgot about thinking like that- I was more thinking about how to get the car back to good running order, not thinking of it as a parts car. Yes, for the money, I'd buy it just for the parts- I'd take the ECU, harness, ignition system and transmission at least, as well as the struts and rear subframe and sway bar, as well as the instruments. :-) Taka -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pastore [mailto:rpastore@animalfeeds.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:59 PM To: 'TM'; 'Adrian Hart'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? Adrian: Right now, the price equals a 6 speed trans and an ECU. An AAN isn't cheap, even when damaged. The direct iginition is highly desired by by every other I-5t owner, especially for 3b owners. Your've got a rear sway bar, the best factory springs, and a trip computer -- all of these are 1992 only. If the price stays reasonable, it's a risk I'd take. Bob -----Original Message----- From: TM [mailto:t44tq@mindspring.com] Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:55 PM To: 'Adrian Hart'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? Worst thing that could happen? Crank key broke, damaged the crank, bent the valves and basically trashed the whole engine, but it fires 4 cylinders. You asked for the worst.... :-) Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Adrian Hart Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 3:08 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? ... apart from a bit rough. An opportunity has come up - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1753736149 What's the WORST thing that this might be? Depending on the output of your collective wisdom I might well take a calculated risk on this one... Cheers Adrian _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Thu Aug 1 23:23:40 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C544D@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: > Adrian: > > Right now, the price equals a 6 speed trans and an ECU. An AAN isn't > cheap, even when damaged. The direct iginition is highly desired by by > every other I-5t owner, especially for 3b owners. Your've got a > rear sway > bar, the best factory springs, and a trip computer -- all of > these are 1992 > only. > > If the price stays reasonable, it's a risk I'd take. > Bob Don't forget, Adrian is in the UK so the RSB, springs and trip computer are not limited to just '92s, and the springs may even be better than what we got here in '92. Bob R. From Bogataboy1 at aol.com Fri Aug 2 00:39:42 2002 From: Bogataboy1 at aol.com (Bogataboy1@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Instrument Cluster Problems Message-ID: In a message dated 7/31/02 10:07:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time, s-car-list-request@audifans.com writes: << [s-cars] Re: Instrument Cluster Problems >> I would totaly stay away from an S6 cluster. Digital mileage readout, no trip computer, and the mileage is stored in the board not the display. Really weird. Other thoughts, In 93 or 94 S4 they have a split in the speedometer, There is one that is thicker than the other. If you looked in an Etka CD rom you could probably find the vin split. I cannot remember which one would be the same size as a 200 20v. I have taken these things apart for customers and had to painfully try to figure out which one they have. Of course 92 S4 has the famous trip computer layout. If you think this is bad, try working on a 2001 S4. You can't even swap a used IC. The car will not run. Pisses me off. Good luck Aaron ( ( AUDI4EVR ) ) From george at kostiuk.net Fri Aug 2 01:09:05 2002 From: george at kostiuk.net (George Kostiuk) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall campaign Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802000433.04518e70@pop.etob.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> it's campaign "KB" I had mine replaced, but 4 years later, it messed up again. The mechanic told me that in his garage, the ratio of bad ignition switches on VW/Audis is 4-5x higher than on other German cars he services, and has been that way since the late 70's models. Hans and Klaus must have a deep parts bin of trashy switches. NHTSA has filed more than 4,500 claims against VW/Audi for bad ignition switches. Do you think my next car will be an Audi? George Kostiuk 96 S6, and before that, 20 years worth of VW/Audis Toronto From Airbil at aol.com Fri Aug 2 01:19:43 2002 From: Airbil at aol.com (Airbil@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? Message-ID: <53.1a5b2b01.2a7b625f@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Seemingly on a path of go fast techno junkie I am, so how about inventing something for urS cars that would make them so cool, so advanced, way out there? Something so unbelievably remarkable, it is sure to bring ooooo's and ahhh's from all who see it? Something beyond alcantara, recaro's and as necessary as the V1. An accessory not yet standard or even offered as an option on the finest Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, or any other car in the world? How about making our three useless console sluggs into a flip up entryway that opens to a soft blue alcantara lined semi secret compartment containing a juke box that holds your ENTIRE music library? That's right "Jim" (generically speaking and apologies to all list Jim's out there,) I'm talking mp3 player. But not just any mp3 player, but "the" mp3player- an Ipod. Check out this video: http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/ipod_intro_240.html 2,000 songs, 4 inches high x 2.4 w x 3/4" deep. Lists all your songs. Scroll with your thumb and bring up songs by title, artist or playlist. ee zzz! This could be a Hapersize (tm) music system. How bout this? http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-A PPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/172/wo/TNGRs18V7XBr42kmH/1.3.0.3.34.1 What's needed to do this? 1.) Windows version due out in 4 weeks. Unless yu're Mac already. 2.) How to neatly tap into the cars power supply. 3.) FM transmitter I believe part of the $50 Dr Bott pkg. OR 4.) Hard wire into the bose would be real nice, but is it possible? 5.) Home Depot solution for making the storage box and the balls to cut out the two plastic pillars between the sluggs. 6.) A lightly spring loaded take up reel to tension the wires when the unit is pulled our. And yes I know mp3 sucks, and bose sucks say many, but to my sucky ears they sound fine. And this ease of use and tactile fun are hard to beat. Let your date play DJ while enjoying the comfort and speed of quattro turbo madness :) Forget GP's. Apple dont discount for nobody:( Whattya think? Bill m - I'll write the BTDT if someone can tell answer no.'s 2 and 4 above. BTW -I know you geezers out there are sayin whaaa? huhhh? But as my college age kids have taught me mp3 is very cool. You'll see sooner or later, so why not sooner. Oh yeah and downside is you gal's gonna want one too. From mlped at qwest.net Thu Aug 1 23:23:56 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? In-Reply-To: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39A56E19@XENA2000.symyx.com> Message-ID: Treavor, I am not 100% sure about this, but I don't think the IMSA EM (there was a purported one for sale on Ebay @ a year or so ago) is the right configuration for the UrS4/6. Holly Bat S**t, now that I look, my notes have "krum3" as in Herr Krumer attached to the low res jpeg that I saved of that EM. Let me know if you want/need a copy of that jpeg. FWIW, I think the "reserve" on that auction was something like +1,750 US for the EM. Did anyone on the list buy it? mlp ~-----Original Message----- ~From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com ~[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Trevor Frank ~Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 6:51 PM ~To: s-car-list@audifans.com ~Subject: [s-cars] Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? ~ ~ ~This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ~-- ~[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] ~I remember seeing a few way back when, but could only find one. I am ~thinking of building a Exhaust Manifold and I figure it's best to copy ~the best. ~ ~Thanks. ~ ~Trevor. ~_______________________________________________ ~S-CAR-List mailing list ~S-CAR-List@audifans.com ~http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ~ ~ From tvandervoort at msn.com Fri Aug 2 00:41:12 2002 From: tvandervoort at msn.com (Tom Vandervoort) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S-Cars at Audi Club Nationals (was: The s-cars gang: what a great group!) In-Reply-To: <20020801005830.41676.qmail@web40108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I like Scott's idea of a Sunday S-Cars gathering at the Audi Club North America Nationals at Summit Point, Virginia October 5-9. It may be easier to do since Scott is already working on some of the events. Since I started this thread in the "wake" of the S-Cars Nationals cancellation, I've also contacted eventmaster Jon Linkov who likes the idea and is contacting Darin. Since many S-Cars owners also participate in Audi Club events, this may be a way to gain good participation by listers. It is my understanding that people may choose whether or not to participate in the driver's school. There are a lot of different activities being planned to broaden the event's appeal. For those seeking more information on the Audi Club Nationals, it may be found at http://audicarclubna.org/event/national/index.shtml. Hopefully, the S-Cars Fest Darin is planning at Anderson Motorsport in Minnesota on August 31 and a gathering at the Audi Club Nationals in Virginia in October will bring a lot of listers together and set the stage for future cooperation. Tom //S2 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Thompson [mailto:n3xgc@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 7:59 PM To: Tom Vandervoort; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] The s-cars gang: what a great group! It would be great to get some UrS cars together at the ACCNA Nationals event. There are probably 10-12 UrS cars in the DC metro area that we know of, plus others coming for the event I'm sure. Several of us with S4s and S6s are involved in planning some of the events. I would suggest that we try to pick an event over the weekend and get everyone who can to attend that one event. Sunday might be good as those coming for the drivers school will be arriving. Any Takers/other ideas? -Scott '95 S6 Tom Vandervoort wrote: Hi guys: I had to stop lurking and post to praise all of you for supporting Darin in recovering from having to cancel the s-cars Nationals. What a great group! The eS2 is all repaired after its Winter fender-bender. Toughest thing was getting the parts from Europe. It just took a lot of time. It took Anderson Motorsport two tries to get the late S2 intercooler in (first box was empty). I was very well served by Allstate who went after the at-fault party's insurance company. The other company wanted to total the "old '91 car." Allstate took the trouble to look into the car and ended up getting an independent appraisal done. Result: estimated market value of $26,000. The S2 is going reasonably fast at Audi Club events this year (Brainerd, Mid-O and Watkins Glen so far -- what great tracks!), but is up for an MTM chip and Garrett turbo addition very soon. Hope to see some more of you at Road America and maybe the Audi Club Nationals in October. In addition to the S-Cars Fest Darin is organizing for August 31,is there a chance we could do something at the Audi Club national event in Virginia? BTW, the check IS in the mail, Darin Tom Vandervoort //S2 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better -- From JShadzi at aol.com Fri Aug 2 02:01:30 2002 From: JShadzi at aol.com (JShadzi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? Message-ID: <10.22bc3463.2a7b6c2a@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Mike, you're right, puts the turbo flange right into the frame rail, won't work on the stock cars. The IMSA piece is nice, but nothing revoloutionary, a good equal length runner manifold with a smooth collector. Some had slip joints to assist with expansion, 1.5" tubing. As far as placement, the Sport Q manifold is a good one to copy. I don't think anyone ever bid on that header, its not very useful for a car that you don't want to chop into the frame rail on. Javad In a message dated 8/1/2002 9:37:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mlped@qwest.net writes: > > Treavor, I am not 100% sure about this, but I don't think the IMSA EM > (there > was a purported one for sale on Ebay @ a year or so ago) is the right > configuration for the UrS4/6. > > Holly Bat S**t, now that I look, my notes have "krum3" as in Herr Krumer > attached to the low res jpeg that I saved of that EM. Let me know if you > want/need a copy of that jpeg. FWIW, I think the "reserve" on that auction > was something like +1,750 US for the EM. Did anyone on the list buy it? > > mlp > From dan at s-cars.org Thu Aug 1 23:43:09 2002 From: dan at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display References: <200208020119.g721JNI10069@elektro.cmhnet.org> Message-ID: <000b01c239d6$b8b2b7e0$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> Huh... cool idea. Pretty cool use of a useless space in the inst cluster since we get no trip computer after '92. Anyways, I think it would be a cleaner looking install if the V1 remote mount was mounted behind a translucent piece of ABS plastic... kinda like some idiot light panels that look like the stock regular ABS plastic unless the light behind it is lit up. If the factory V1 lights weren't bright enough, I'm sure you could easily rig up something with LED's in the directional placement. I guess my point is the best install would be one where you really didn't know anything was there. I'd be interested to see your install and how you rig it up when you do it Charlie. But, this procedure got me thinking on something else... If it's relatively easy to pull the IC apart like this, is it easy to get the clear plactic piece that is the cover seperated from the body of the IC? I have some light scratches in mine that show up when in the sun. I'm not in a hurry to replace it and you can't see them 90% of the time, but when and if I replace the bulbs in there and the IC has to come out anyways, I was thinking I might try to replace the clear plastic cover for the IC. Has anyone else done this???? Is this a seperate PN from Audi? I'd be interested to find out how this could be done. Later, Dan '94 S4 (Black/ecru) ... For Sale '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) Seattle, WA ....enjoying these beautiful 75 deg sunny days!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlie Smith" To: "Audi S Car List" Cc: "Charlie Smith" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:19 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Valentine 1 remote display > > The pictures and Dean's writeup are now on this set of web pages: > > http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~audi/V1/ > > I think I'll install something like this in my S6 IC, and I'll include > updated pictures and stuff after it's done. For right now, Dean's writeup > is pasted with each picture so you can see what he did. > > - Charlie > > > Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 > http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA > http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info > > 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features > 96 Dodge Ram - 30 PSI, w/Cummins turbo diesel > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From dan at s-cars.org Thu Aug 1 23:52:01 2002 From: dan at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] OEM 1992 S4 Floor Mats...Rings or Quattro Logo? References: Message-ID: <001701c239d7$f5bab100$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> The mat manufacturer's have changed and the only color offered now is black for the "original style" mats. The rings are slightly different as they are stitched and not part of the carpet and the surrounds are threaded vs. the nice canvas surround. Okay, they're basically much cheaper made at the same cost to the consumer... but the only choise if you want "factory" mats. I believe you can get the "Quattro" mat in the same style. Just get the mat for a '92 100S (non-Quattro). Anyways, it's not that hard. The dealer just screwed up. They can pull it up in EKTA and get your the right part. Tell them they are morons and they are plain lazy... look up the right part or you will take your buisiness elsewhere. Hope that helps. You may be buying ALL your parts on-line after that however (which is not necessaraly a bad thing). On another note... I just shelled out $100+ for the factory floor mats in black for my S6 wagon (just did it for the S4 last year). Anyways, I too was looking for a better alternative. Best factory mats out there I like are the ones out of a Volvo Cross Country. Does anyone (Lee) know who makes these or could find out (Lee?)? I'm wondering if they will make custom mats to my specification. Anyone else out there interested??? I was also going to buy the custom rear hatch mat from Griot's, but opted for thier $16.95 waterproof plaid cargo blanket instead! Later, Dan '94 S4 (Black/ecru)... For Sale '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) Seattle, WA ... enjoying these beautiful 75 deg sunny days! ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 5:56 PM Subject: [s-cars] OEM 1992 S4 Floor Mats...Rings or Quattro Logo? > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I want to buy a new set, the dealership order a Quattro set, car has an old > rings set. I just want to match what it had originally, picky I know! > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From dan at s-cars.org Fri Aug 2 02:44:05 2002 From: dan at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake light stuck on! Message-ID: <000c01c239ef$fef792c0$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hello to all... Well, sometime last week I went to release the emergency brake on my '94 Au= di S4, and guess what, brake went off, but light stayed on. Shook the e-br= ake a bit. Engaged then dissengaged it... still light remains on, and has = been on since then! All the fluids looked fine, but I topped up both the Pentosin (which I drai= ned, cleaned the reservoir, and added fresh Pentosin to not long ago), and = also the brake fluid with a little Castron GT-LMA. Still, the light remain= s on. E-brake and all brake functions seem to be working fine. In the manual it = says it could also be due to too low hydraulic pressure in the brake system= .=2E. the Pentosin fluid looks good now and I get many stops when I kill t= he engine before pedal goes stiff, so I don't think it's the bomb. So, I am thinking it is either a fluid sensor or, as someone noted to me, m= y e-brake switch is broken and "stuck" on. Any ideas... anyone else had this happen in thier S-cars? How much is a n= ew switch, if that is in fact what you think that is. Thanks, Dan '94 S4 (Black/ecru) ... For Sale '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) North Bend, WA -- From robert at s-cars.org Fri Aug 2 07:16:53 2002 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5444@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802061142.03bbe100@mail.charter.net> At 12:57 PM 8/1/02, Robert Pastore wrote: >Me too? > >I am relatively certain this is what happened to me about 10 minutes ago. >I start my car to go to lunch -- and there's a strange rattle from under the >hood that doesn't go away. No HVAC, power windows, lights, etc. I pull off >into a parking lot to investigate -- smell of burning electrics >Noise from rear of engine sounds like the wheel bearing on a cheap >rollerskate -- Step on/off clutch no change is sound. >Staring at engine -- WTF -- it coughs and stalls. No restart. >The stall is what bothers me though -- I hope the starter didn't take a >flywheel tooth with it. That's probably the moment the starter began to seize up and increase the load on the idling engine. The IMMEDIATE thing to be done is to slightly twist the ignition key to the left so that the starter stops trying to start an already running engine and the load relay disengages. You can tell when that happens by watching the HVAC display turn on again. This will allow you to replace _only_ the ignition switch. If you wait too long the starter damage is done and you get to do both jobs. >I'm driving an s-car since 96 -- this is the first time I'm stranded! >Bill M. -- Buy the starter now. You know it'll only be a few weeks before >your car does it! > >Any BTDT on starter /ignition switch change, or any other ideas? > >regards, >Bob (w/ZR-1 parts delivery car) > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Mike Durian [mailto:durian@boogie.com] >Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:11 PM >To: Robert Myers >Cc: George Kostiuk; s-car-list@audifans.com >Subject: Re: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start > > >On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT, Robert Myers wrote: > >George, > > > >Try this for size: your ignition switch did not return to the "run" > >position but stayed in the "start" position. This keeps the starter > >cranking an already running engine leading to starter burn up (hence smell > >of electrics burning). It also keeps the load reduction relay engaged so > >that HVAC, power windows, turn signals, headlights, etc. do not work. On > >attempted restart the load reduction relay acts normally because the switch > >returns to the "run" position and all the electrics appear to operate > >normally however the engine won't start because the starter is > >dead. Cure? Replace ignition switch and, likely, the starter or at least > >the solenoid. > >FYI, >I removed my starter last night despite the intentions of a very stubborn >16mm bolt head. Once removed, I took off the back end of the starter >and literally poured the brushes out like so much sand. > >Clearly, I suffered the failure you describe. > >mike >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/02 Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From bob.rossato at att.net Fri Aug 2 08:10:39 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > > Bob, > > Do you know what the recall campaign was called? I want to look > through my > records to see if it was done. > > > -- > Peter Anderson > 93 S4 6speed Here is the link. I think the part numbers listed are for the entire switch assembly, not just the electrical half. Bob http://www.springbreakdaytonabeach.com/vwtech/www.vwwebsource.com/vwtechcont ent/pdf/kbcirc.pdf From CLAG500 at aol.com Fri Aug 2 09:16:55 2002 From: CLAG500 at aol.com (CLAG500@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Dash buzzer Message-ID: <5892FE23.466B8408.001460C0@aol.com> Hey Guys, Here's an annoying problem. My warning buzzer for the doors/radio/lights etc. seems to have developed a mind of its own. At first it was barely noticable and I couldn't tell what it was but now it's getting louder and and staying on all the time while the car is running. Anybody had this happen? I hope it doesn't have anything to do with all this talk about ignition switches. Any thoughts, guesses, or wild speculation would be appreciated. Chad "buzz" Tobin From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Fri Aug 2 09:19:34 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall campaign Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C544F@NJ_DC_01> FWIW, I'm told the switch also has a Porsche part #. -----Original Message----- From: George Kostiuk [mailto:george@kostiuk.net] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:09 AM To: panderso@maine.rr.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] switch recall campaign it's campaign "KB" I had mine replaced, but 4 years later, it messed up again. The mechanic told me that in his garage, the ratio of bad ignition switches on VW/Audis is 4-5x higher than on other German cars he services, and has been that way since the late 70's models. Hans and Klaus must have a deep parts bin of trashy switches. NHTSA has filed more than 4,500 claims against VW/Audi for bad ignition switches. Do you think my next car will be an Audi? George Kostiuk 96 S6, and before that, 20 years worth of VW/Audis Toronto _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From george at kostiuk.net Fri Aug 2 09:29:03 2002 From: george at kostiuk.net (George Kostiuk) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802061142.03bbe100@mail.charter.net> References: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5444@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020802082722.04517258@pop.etob.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Guess we all gotta learn to make it a reflex to check the HVAC display every time we start. George At 06:16 AM 02/08/2002 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >At 12:57 PM 8/1/02, Robert Pastore wrote: > >>Me too? >> >>I am relatively certain this is what happened to me about 10 minutes ago. >>I start my car to go to lunch -- and there's a strange rattle from under the >>hood that doesn't go away. No HVAC, power windows, lights, etc. I pull off >>into a parking lot to investigate -- smell of burning electrics >>Noise from rear of engine sounds like the wheel bearing on a cheap >>rollerskate -- Step on/off clutch no change is sound. >>Staring at engine -- WTF -- it coughs and stalls. No restart. >>The stall is what bothers me though -- I hope the starter didn't take a >>flywheel tooth with it. > >That's probably the moment the starter began to seize up and increase the >load on the idling engine. The IMMEDIATE thing to be done is to slightly >twist the ignition key to the left so that the starter stops trying to >start an already running engine and the load relay disengages. You can >tell when that happens by watching the HVAC display turn on again. This >will allow you to replace _only_ the ignition switch. If you wait too >long the starter damage is done and you get to do both jobs. > > >>I'm driving an s-car since 96 -- this is the first time I'm stranded! >>Bill M. -- Buy the starter now. You know it'll only be a few weeks before >>your car does it! >> >>Any BTDT on starter /ignition switch change, or any other ideas? >> >>regards, >>Bob (w/ZR-1 parts delivery car) >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Durian [mailto:durian@boogie.com] >>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:11 PM >>To: Robert Myers >>Cc: George Kostiuk; s-car-list@audifans.com >>Subject: Re: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start >> >> >>On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT, Robert Myers wrote: >> >George, >> > >> >Try this for size: your ignition switch did not return to the "run" >> >position but stayed in the "start" position. This keeps the starter >> >cranking an already running engine leading to starter burn up (hence smell >> >of electrics burning). It also keeps the load reduction relay engaged so >> >that HVAC, power windows, turn signals, headlights, etc. do not work. On >> >attempted restart the load reduction relay acts normally because the switch >> >returns to the "run" position and all the electrics appear to operate >> >normally however the engine won't start because the starter is >> >dead. Cure? Replace ignition switch and, likely, the starter or at least >> >the solenoid. >> >>FYI, >>I removed my starter last night despite the intentions of a very stubborn >>16mm bolt head. Once removed, I took off the back end of the starter >>and literally poured the brushes out like so much sand. >> >>Clearly, I suffered the failure you describe. >> >>mike >>_______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> >> >>--- >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/02 > >Bob >***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm >***** From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Fri Aug 2 09:34:03 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5450@NJ_DC_01> Yesterday it was close to 100 degrees in NJ--Believe me, it doesn't take long to figure out you've got no HVAC, no power windows, and no sunroof!!!!!!!!!! Bob -----Original Message----- From: George Kostiuk [mailto:george@kostiuk.net] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 8:29 AM To: Robert Myers; Robert Pastore; 'Mike Durian' Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Guess we all gotta learn to make it a reflex to check the HVAC display every time we start. George At 06:16 AM 02/08/2002 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >At 12:57 PM 8/1/02, Robert Pastore wrote: > >>Me too? >> >>I am relatively certain this is what happened to me about 10 minutes ago. >>I start my car to go to lunch -- and there's a strange rattle from under the >>hood that doesn't go away. No HVAC, power windows, lights, etc. I pull off >>into a parking lot to investigate -- smell of burning electrics >>Noise from rear of engine sounds like the wheel bearing on a cheap >>rollerskate -- Step on/off clutch no change is sound. >>Staring at engine -- WTF -- it coughs and stalls. No restart. >>The stall is what bothers me though -- I hope the starter didn't take a >>flywheel tooth with it. > >That's probably the moment the starter began to seize up and increase the >load on the idling engine. The IMMEDIATE thing to be done is to slightly >twist the ignition key to the left so that the starter stops trying to >start an already running engine and the load relay disengages. You can >tell when that happens by watching the HVAC display turn on again. This >will allow you to replace _only_ the ignition switch. If you wait too >long the starter damage is done and you get to do both jobs. > > >>I'm driving an s-car since 96 -- this is the first time I'm stranded! >>Bill M. -- Buy the starter now. You know it'll only be a few weeks before >>your car does it! >> >>Any BTDT on starter /ignition switch change, or any other ideas? >> >>regards, >>Bob (w/ZR-1 parts delivery car) >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Mike Durian [mailto:durian@boogie.com] >>Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:11 PM >>To: Robert Myers >>Cc: George Kostiuk; s-car-list@audifans.com >>Subject: Re: [s-cars] No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start >> >> >>On Tue, 30 Jul 2002 19:01:36 EDT, Robert Myers wrote: >> >George, >> > >> >Try this for size: your ignition switch did not return to the "run" >> >position but stayed in the "start" position. This keeps the starter >> >cranking an already running engine leading to starter burn up (hence smell >> >of electrics burning). It also keeps the load reduction relay engaged so >> >that HVAC, power windows, turn signals, headlights, etc. do not work. On >> >attempted restart the load reduction relay acts normally because the switch >> >returns to the "run" position and all the electrics appear to operate >> >normally however the engine won't start because the starter is >> >dead. Cure? Replace ignition switch and, likely, the starter or at least >> >the solenoid. >> >>FYI, >>I removed my starter last night despite the intentions of a very stubborn >>16mm bolt head. Once removed, I took off the back end of the starter >>and literally poured the brushes out like so much sand. >> >>Clearly, I suffered the failure you describe. >> >>mike >>_______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> >> >>--- >>Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >>Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >>Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/02 > >Bob >***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm >***** From KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com Fri Aug 2 10:00:10 2002 From: KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com (Paul Krasusky) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible Bargain? Message-ID: Snips from ebay: <<>> Well, of COURSE this an absolute bargain! Wow! This fine Englishman here is offering the highly desirable, elusive, and utterly mysterious Quattro engine! FOUR ENGINES! Happersizing be DAMNED! Those car-azzzzzy Englishmen... Taka, is that the UK version of "Quattro engine... for happy fun life"? -Paulie Virtually Never Serious K. CT '95 //S6 mit Quattro engine '58 TR3A lucky to have an engine. And it's derived from a TRACTOR engine at that. From: Robert Pastore To: 'TM' , 'Adrian Hart' , s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Possible Bargain - what does this sound like? Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 20:58:42 -0400 Adrian: Right now, the price equals a 6 speed trans and an ECU. An AAN isn't cheap, even when damaged. The direct iginition is highly desired by by every other I-5t owner, especially for 3b owners. Your've got a rear sway bar, the best factory springs, and a trip computer -- all of these are 1992 only. If the price stays reasonable, it's a risk I'd take. Bob From wenoland at pacbell.net Fri Aug 2 07:08:47 2002 From: wenoland at pacbell.net (William Noland) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? References: <20020802060027.D5902562@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <3D4A845F.3000104@pacbell.net> Trevor - You might contact the folks at Eurospec Sport -- www.eurospecsport.com. They have a couple of the original Trans Am cars and an Audi Sport South Africa version of the IMSA cars. Check out the gallery. They had a display of various Audi racing hardware at the Monterey Historics, when Auto Union was the featured marque. Bill Noland 94 S4 >I remember seeing a few way back when, but could only find one. I am >thinking of building a Exhaust Manifold and I figure it's best to copy >the best. > From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Fri Aug 2 10:37:20 2002 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake light stuck on! References: <000c01c239ef$fef792c0$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> Message-ID: <3D4A8B10.EFD8E30A@verizon.net> E-brake sw is certainly a candidate, especially if you filled the brake and pentosyn reservoirs. My brake lite was recently doing the same thing, and I found that the brake reservoir sensor could be switched into either mode and not return, i.e., it didn't work as a float as expected, it had a lot of hysteresis. The solution was to add more brake fluid until it was a bit above the bottom of the cup. Your case, though, appears to not be intermittent, as mine was. I would bet on the brake sw. Since I fixed mine another way, I can't tell you where you can get to the wires to check it without tearing the console out, or whatever is necessary to get to the sw. kirby Daniel Hussey wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hello to all... > > Well, sometime last week I went to release the emergency brake on my '94 Audi S4, and guess what, brake went off, but light stayed on. Shook the e-brake a bit. Engaged then dissengaged it... still light remains on, and has been on since then! > > All the fluids looked fine, but I topped up both the Pentosin (which I drained, cleaned the reservoir, and added fresh Pentosin to not long ago), and also the brake fluid with a little Castron GT-LMA. Still, the light remains on. > > E-brake and all brake functions seem to be working fine. In the manual it says it could also be due to too low hydraulic pressure in the brake system... the Pentosin fluid looks good now and I get many stops when I kill the engine before pedal goes stiff, so I don't think it's the bomb. > > So, I am thinking it is either a fluid sensor or, as someone noted to me, my e-brake switch is broken and "stuck" on. > > Any ideas... anyone else had this happen in thier S-cars? How much is a new switch, if that is in fact what you think that is. > > Thanks, > Dan > '94 S4 (Black/ecru) ... For Sale > '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) > North Bend, WA > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From MatthewR at greenhosp.org Fri Aug 2 11:03:28 2002 From: MatthewR at greenhosp.org (Matthew Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? Message-ID: --__--__-- Message: 9 From: Airbil@aol.com Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? Bill m - I'll write the BTDT if someone can tell answer no.'s 2 and 4 above. I'll give it a try. And I reserve the right to be corrected! (*grin*) 1.) Windows version due out in 4 weeks. Unless yu're Mac already. Got that covered. Love my iMac! (Even though mine doesn't have a cool, sexy flat screen) 2.) How to neatly tap into the cars power supply. Could use the existing wire that leads to the Bose head unit. Or, run a wire to the driver's side footwell area near the relay board. There's a bunch of easily accessable 'hot' posts to tap into quite easily. 4.) Hard wire into the bose would be real nice, but is it possible? My guess is Yes. But no BTDT. If the CD changer inputs a signal to the head unit, than there has to be a way to tap into that same wire(s). Other listers? 6.) A lightly spring loaded take up reel to tension the wires when the unit is pulled our. Now that sounds just like a cellular phone display board. The iPod is great. Because it only has 4 (6?) buttons and it is easy to operate, it'll just give us s-car loving drivers one more thing to be distracted by while on the road. ...and one more thing to have to train the S.O. to do. (oh boy...) -Matt, CT 92 s4 - with visions of V1 and iPod displays dancing in his head... From igor at s-cars.org Fri Aug 2 11:10:47 2002 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? References: Message-ID: <3D4A92E7.D64C0451@s-cars.org> Bob Rossato wrote: > Here is the link. I think the part numbers listed are for the entire switch > assembly, not just the electrical half. > > Bob > > http://www.springbreakdaytonabeach.com/vwtech/www.vwwebsource.com/vwtechcont > ent/pdf/kbcirc.pdf Hmm.... neither my m/y, nor my VIN are listed. I wonder if it is because of some Audi knocklehead recall campaign manager or because by '97 m/y those switches were miraculously cured. I tend to suspect the former rather than the latter. After all, my car did have the infamous fuel line leak, with only at about 30kmi on the clock. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From CaptMagu at aol.com Fri Aug 2 11:21:27 2002 From: CaptMagu at aol.com (CaptMagu@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? Message-ID: <12c.154c4dda.2a7bef67@aol.com> Bill, Bill, Bill, I've already put that space to use as a receptacle for my Davtron I/C temp guage. What am I supposed to do now? Hap, MP3less but with plenty of other data in Evergreen, Maguire From t44tq at mindspring.com Fri Aug 2 11:27:53 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? In-Reply-To: <3D4A92E7.D64C0451@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <000701c23a30$ca366980$0d42fea9@newpc> Igor- You're forgetting that your car isn't an official US import- due to that, it's probably excluded from any VIN ranges issued by AoA. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Igor Kessel Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:11 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] switch recall? Bob Rossato wrote: > Here is the link. I think the part numbers listed are for the entire > switch assembly, not just the electrical half. > > Bob > > http://www.springbreakdaytonabeach.com/vwtech/www.vwwebsource.com/vwte > chcont > ent/pdf/kbcirc.pdf Hmm.... neither my m/y, nor my VIN are listed. I wonder if it is because of some Audi knocklehead recall campaign manager or because by '97 m/y those switches were miraculously cured. I tend to suspect the former rather than the latter. After all, my car did have the infamous fuel line leak, with only at about 30kmi on the clock. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From ken377lx at 4dv.net Fri Aug 2 09:30:20 2002 From: ken377lx at 4dv.net (Ken Lanham) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Graf Water Pump for 20valve S6 Message-ID: <3D4A977C.70503@4dv.net> I am working on a freind new S6 wagon here. I have heard there are some water pumps that are better to use than others. The Graf pump is $26 from Thepartsbin.com Is this the water pump to use on the Audi's? Thanks in advance. Thanks, Ken Lanham Englewood, CO From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Fri Aug 2 11:35:59 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Davtron IC gauge Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5453@NJ_DC_01> Hap: I have an old HKS IC in/out temp gauge that I suspect was manufactured by Westech or Davtron. It's probes (thermocouples?) are needle-like, and fit though a 1/8" NPT fitting. One of the thermocouples is broken -- Do you have any idea where to source something like? HKS-USA didn't even know they ever made such a gauge. I have the Aircraft Spruce Catalog, but could not find one in it. Any ideas? Bob -----Original Message----- From: CaptMagu@aol.com [mailto:CaptMagu@aol.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:21 AM To: Airbil@aol.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? Bill, Bill, Bill, I've already put that space to use as a receptacle for my Davtron I/C temp guage. What am I supposed to do now? Hap, MP3less but with plenty of other data in Evergreen, Maguire _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Fri Aug 2 11:40:24 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S-Cars at Audi Club Nationals (was: The s-cars gang: what a great group!) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000e01c23a32$8975f4e0$0d42fea9@newpc> Can we set something up so we can meet? I'll go down there for that, might see about the driver's school, but I may be too late for that already. That means I'll have to join ACCNA again, much to the chagrin of Jon Linkov. :-) Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Tom Vandervoort Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:41 AM To: Scott Thompson; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] S-Cars at Audi Club Nationals (was: The s-cars gang: what a great group!) This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I like Scott's idea of a Sunday S-Cars gathering at the Audi Club North America Nationals at Summit Point, Virginia October 5-9. It may be easier to do since Scott is already working on some of the events. Since I started this thread in the "wake" of the S-Cars Nationals cancellation, I've also contacted eventmaster Jon Linkov who likes the idea and is contacting Darin. Since many S-Cars owners also participate in Audi Club events, this may be a way to gain good participation by listers. It is my understanding that people may choose whether or not to participate in the driver's school. There are a lot of different activities being planned to broaden the event's appeal. For those seeking more information on the Audi Club Nationals, it may be found at http://audicarclubna.org/event/national/index.shtml. Hopefully, the S-Cars Fest Darin is planning at Anderson Motorsport in Minnesota on August 31 and a gathering at the Audi Club Nationals in Virginia in October will bring a lot of listers together and set the stage for future cooperation. Tom //S2 From adm1txs at ups.com Fri Aug 2 11:41:40 2002 From: adm1txs at ups.com (Saltino Tom (adm1txs)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Graf Water Pump for 20valve S6 Message-ID: <37B76D9B3FE1D211925A0010E360E46E06B7B248@gl55ntms1.win.us.ups.com> Based on personal experience I would stay away from the Graf. I know I'm knocking my own people here, but I would pay a little more for a non-Italian pump. -----Original Message----- From: Ken Lanham [mailto:ken377lx@4dv.net] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:30 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Graf Water Pump for 20valve S6 I am working on a freind new S6 wagon here. I have heard there are some water pumps that are better to use than others. The Graf pump is $26 from Thepartsbin.com Is this the water pump to use on the Audi's? Thanks in advance. Thanks, Ken Lanham Englewood, CO _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Tblack5 at cogeco.ca Fri Aug 2 11:47:27 2002 From: Tblack5 at cogeco.ca (tblack) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase References: Message-ID: <000701c23a33$85cf3e90$e0b28d18@DB9KQ211> Keep in mind one important matter in the colder parts of the country where below freezing temperatures are encountered you may find the seperator tank full of frozen moisture from the combustion process. This can result in blown oil seals and lots of oil mess to clean up, BTDT. The tank should be located such that it has adequate heat to prevent this happening. In the area to the passenger side of the engine behind the EM should be ideal. Any thoughts? Tom Black. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Dikeman" To: "Johnny Alpha" ; <200q20v@audifans.com>; ; Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 4:10 PM Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase > At 7:56 PM +0100 8/1/02, Johnny Alpha wrote: > >Brett, > > > >Is this the same thing as a compressed air oil seperator at half (or less) > >of your expected price, or am I missing something? > > Hmm...I was under the impression such widgets were designed for high > pressure, where restriction isn't as much of a problem...but if the > company that makes it will vouch for automotive operation(where > restriction would be a very bad thing; crankcase pressures need to be > kept as low as possible for us 3B folk with distributors), sure, I'll > entertain the idea. > > There are airplane air/oil separators, but they generally cost $200-300 new. > > As for those who asked about hardware etc, the intention it to get > them to make a batch for us with hose barbs so that all you need to > buy is a short length of hose, 4 hose clamps, etc...you get the idea. > This is just a purchase of the separator; I assume you're all big > boys+girls and can handle a trip to the auto parts store :-) > > I'm mulling over mounting; I'm still waiting for an answer back from > Stef's. For the 200's, it would be nice to mount something to that > washer fluid bottle holder without drilling etc. Haven't had a > chance to look a pic of an S-car compartment yet. > > BTW...for those debating going the "easy" route of a catch can > w/filter vented to the atmosphere, you will probably not pass > emissions with such a setup...there's a good chance the tech might > point to the tank and say "sorry..." Say what you will about winks, > nods, and bills slipped...but its a headache I personally would > rather not deal with, and I don't feel great about making mods to my > car that increase its emissions... > > > Brett > -- > ---- > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin > http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ > http://www.apple.com/switch/ > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From igor at s-cars.org Fri Aug 2 12:06:53 2002 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? References: <000701c23a30$ca366980$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: <3D4AA00D.F1D06135@s-cars.org> Taka, neither are the '96 S6, yet they are listed too? Hmmm, I am still puzzled. BTW, thanks for the offer to help me with the AEB (A4 1.8T) engine. I am OK. The engine is in pieces, all over the garagge. All 8 ehxaust valves are bent. I ordered the replacement ones from Rod at TPC (as always), he had them for $42/ea. This is the 5th or the 6th Audi engine that I am taking apart and I can't help but wonder why the hell Audi _STILL_ does not make the segmented cutouts in the piston crowns for the exhaust valves? At least in the A4 they had finally gotten enough sence to make these cutouts for the intake valves, never mind that I don't care about those - they are dirt cheap in comparison with the sodium filled ehxaust valves. BTW, when I had first taken my Lada 2105 engine apart back in 1984 (and that car was the first Lada with a timing belt rather than the chain) I saw the segmnented cutouts in the piston crowns, made specifically to accomodate the hanging valves in the event of a belt failure. Now, that was a Lada, designed 20 years ago! Not exactly a paragon of the automotive engineering. And now here I am, 18 years later, bitching about this super-duper marvel of German engineering, five-valve-per-cylinder my ass, in the beginning of the 21st Century, where I still have to take the whole freaking engine apart only because of a stupid belt tensioner ceasing up. On 40,531 miles!!! Man, am I pissed! And the worst part, Audi pretends like nothing happened. No oficial recall issued. Turns out that the AEB engines shear teeth on timing belts from 30kmi to 60kmi. My aquaintance in Russia sez he once had a batch of 20-some cars with the timing belts sceased up, all exhaust valves bent. Unlike us here in the US they started to receive the A4-s beginning with m/y 1995. Sorry for hte A4 offtopic, folks. At the moment I am elbow-deep in my wife's car engine. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros P.S. I have decided to CC: the A4 list. Folks, if you STILL have not updated the crappy timing belt tensioners in your 1.8T engines, do it _NOW_, if not sooner. Search the audiworld archives withe the "tensioner +valves +bent" in the search and brace yourself for dozens of horror stories. Alas, the A4 has been so bullit-proof reliable over the past 4 years (a friggin' Honda Accord, only fun to drive) that I have completely neglected reading about it and have instead concentrated on my '97 S6. Hence the price I am paying now. TM wrote: > > Igor- > You're forgetting that your car isn't an official US import- due to > that, it's probably > excluded from any VIN ranges issued by AoA. > > Taka > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Igor Kessel > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:11 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] switch recall? > > Bob Rossato wrote: > > > Here is the link. I think the part numbers listed are for the entire > > switch assembly, not just the electrical half. > > > > Bob > > > > http://www.springbreakdaytonabeach.com/vwtech/www.vwwebsource.com/vwte > > chcont > > ent/pdf/kbcirc.pdf > > Hmm.... neither my m/y, nor my VIN are listed. I wonder if it is because > of some Audi knocklehead recall campaign manager or because by '97 m/y > those switches were miraculously cured. I tend to suspect the former > rather than the latter. After all, my car did have the infamous fuel > line leak, with only at about 30kmi on the clock. > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From MatthewR at greenhosp.org Fri Aug 2 12:02:04 2002 From: MatthewR at greenhosp.org (Matthew Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Dash buzzer Message-ID: Chad- Had this same problem. The buzzer and the relay are one, and they are mounted just behind the instrument cluster. Mine went while I was on vacation in S.Carolina. I simply unplugged the relay and removed it from the car. Dealer only (AFAIK) part, quoted to me at around 130 bucks, thus I haven't replaced mine yet, but I'm real good about turning the headlights off, shutting doors, etc. Let me know if you need more specifics. -Matt, CT 92 s4 Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 08:16:55 -0400 From: CLAG500@aol.com To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Dash buzzer Hey Guys, Here's an annoying problem. My warning buzzer for the doors/radio/light= s etc. seems to have developed a mind of its own. At first it was barely no= ticable and I couldn't tell what it was but now it's getting louder and and= staying on all the time while the car is running. Anybody had this happen?= I hope it doesn't have anything to do with all this talk about ignition sw= itches. Any thoughts, guesses, or wild speculation would be appreciated. Chad "buzz" Tobin From mlped at qwest.net Fri Aug 2 10:17:54 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RAIS redux In-Reply-To: <004101c239b0$18f7b730$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: FWIW, RAIS revisited where the World's often turned upside down :-) - http://www.users.bigpond.com/pgscott/BFIDIY.html & on finding locations, other than in Evergreen: - http://www.users.bigpond.com/pgscott/SitingColdAirIntakes.html In an "other", but related category: - http://www.fordmuscle.com/archives/2000/01/airfilters/index.shtml mlp From igor at s-cars.org Fri Aug 2 12:24:00 2002 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Graf Water Pump for 20valve S6 References: <37B76D9B3FE1D211925A0010E360E46E06B7B248@gl55ntms1.win.us.ups.com> Message-ID: <3D4AA410.FBE12432@s-cars.org> Ken, stay away from Graf. Get the proper German HEPU instead. Try TPC, last time I checked it was $59. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros "Saltino Tom (adm1txs)" wrote: > > Based on personal experience I would stay away from the Graf. I know I'm > knocking my own people here, but I would pay a little more for a non-Italian > pump. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Lanham [mailto:ken377lx@4dv.net] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:30 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Graf Water Pump for 20valve S6 > > I am working on a freind new S6 wagon here. I have heard there are some > water pumps that are better to use than others. The Graf pump is $26 > from Thepartsbin.com Is this the water pump to use on the Audi's? > Thanks in advance. > > Thanks, > Ken Lanham > Englewood, CO > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From aaront at cox-internet.com Fri Aug 2 10:22:58 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? References: <000701c23a30$ca366980$0d42fea9@newpc> <3D4AA00D.F1D06135@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <3D4AA3D2.9010902@cox-internet.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Could it be that by creating the piston cutouts would adversely effect compression ratio? Seems this lost volume could be made up someplace else... Aaron Igor Kessel wrote: >Taka, >neither are the '96 S6, yet they are listed too? Hmmm, I am still >puzzled. > >BTW, thanks for the offer to help me with the AEB (A4 1.8T) engine. I am >OK. The engine is in pieces, all over the garagge. All 8 ehxaust valves >are bent. I ordered the replacement ones from Rod at TPC (as always), he >had them for $42/ea. > >This is the 5th or the 6th Audi engine that I am taking apart and I >can't help but wonder why the hell Audi _STILL_ does not make the >segmented cutouts in the piston crowns for the exhaust valves? At least >in the A4 they had finally gotten enough sence to make these cutouts for >the intake valves, never mind that I don't care about those - they are >dirt cheap in comparison with the sodium filled ehxaust valves. > >BTW, when I had first taken my Lada 2105 engine apart back in 1984 (and >that car was the first Lada with a timing belt rather than the chain) I >saw the segmnented cutouts in the piston crowns, made specifically to >accomodate the hanging valves in the event of a belt failure. Now, that >was a Lada, designed 20 years ago! Not exactly a paragon of the >automotive engineering. >And now here I am, 18 years later, bitching about this super-duper >marvel of German engineering, five-valve-per-cylinder my ass, in the >beginning of the 21st Century, where I still have to take the whole >freaking engine apart only because of a stupid belt tensioner ceasing >up. On 40,531 miles!!! Man, am I pissed! And the worst part, Audi >pretends like nothing happened. No oficial recall issued. Turns out that >the AEB engines shear teeth on timing belts from 30kmi to 60kmi. My >aquaintance in Russia sez he once had a batch of 20-some cars with the >timing belts sceased up, all exhaust valves bent. Unlike us here in the >US they started to receive the A4-s beginning with m/y 1995. > >Sorry for hte A4 offtopic, folks. At the moment I am elbow-deep in my >wife's car engine. > >-- >Igor Kessel >two turbo quattros > >P.S. I have decided to CC: the A4 list. Folks, if you STILL have not >updated the crappy timing belt tensioners in your 1.8T engines, do it >_NOW_, if not sooner. Search the audiworld archives withe the "tensioner >+valves +bent" in the search and brace yourself for dozens of horror >stories. Alas, the A4 has been so bullit-proof reliable over the past 4 >years (a friggin' Honda Accord, only fun to drive) that I have >completely neglected reading about it and have instead concentrated on >my '97 S6. Hence the price I am paying now. > > >TM wrote: > >>Igor- >>You're forgetting that your car isn't an official US import- due to >>that, it's probably >>excluded from any VIN ranges issued by AoA. >> >>Taka >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com >>[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Igor Kessel >>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:11 AM >>To: s-car-list@audifans.com >>Subject: Re: [s-cars] switch recall? >> >>Bob Rossato wrote: >> >>>Here is the link. I think the part numbers listed are for the entire >>>switch assembly, not just the electrical half. >>> >>>Bob >>> >>>http://www.springbreakdaytonabeach.com/vwtech/www.vwwebsource.com/vwte >>>chcont >>>ent/pdf/kbcirc.pdf >>> >>Hmm.... neither my m/y, nor my VIN are listed. I wonder if it is because >>of some Audi knocklehead recall campaign manager or because by '97 m/y >>those switches were miraculously cured. I tend to suspect the former >>rather than the latter. After all, my car did have the infamous fuel >>line leak, with only at about 30kmi on the clock. >> >>-- >>Igor Kessel >>two turbo quattros _______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> >>_______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- From rfeagleye at thornhillcpa.com Fri Aug 2 12:29:52 2002 From: rfeagleye at thornhillcpa.com (Robert F. Eagleye) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Part numbers for the Audi Floor Mats I asked about... Message-ID: I discovered the part number on an old service record from the previous owner, thought I would share them here. Front in Black is: 4A1 061 601 5TZ Rear in Black is: 4A1 061 611 5TZ I think the other colors are the same number but with "4TZ' at the end, or something similar. I have no idea what they ordered me, but the mats didn't even fit the wheels wells! Back they go... From KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com Fri Aug 2 12:50:03 2002 From: KrasuskyP at FirstInterBank.com (Paul Krasusky) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Jack Gagnon? Message-ID: SORRY for the WOB- Jack Gagnon, you out there? Please email me ASAP. Tx. Paul Krasusky Business Development Officer First International Bank 860.241.2550 From Tblack5 at cogeco.ca Fri Aug 2 13:42:58 2002 From: Tblack5 at cogeco.ca (tblack) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] switch recall? References: <000701c23a30$ca366980$0d42fea9@newpc> <3D4AA00D.F1D06135@s-cars.org> <3D4AA3D2.9010902@cox-internet.com> Message-ID: <009a01c23a43$a8d70980$e0b28d18@DB9KQ211> It is possible that combustion conditions could influence the non inclusion of valve cutouts in modern engines tuned so close to limit pollution. The valve cutouts could possibly provide pockets of dead or unburned gas which would be undesirable for both combustion and pollution. A friend's Civic let go (belt broke) and bent valves and con rods. W/O Tom Black. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron" To: "Igor Kessel" Cc: "TM" ; ; Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 11:22 AM Subject: Re: [s-cars] switch recall? > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Could it be that by creating the piston cutouts would adversely effect > compression ratio? Seems this lost volume could be made up someplace > else... > Aaron > > Igor Kessel wrote: > > >Taka, > >neither are the '96 S6, yet they are listed too? Hmmm, I am still > >puzzled. > > > >BTW, thanks for the offer to help me with the AEB (A4 1.8T) engine. I am > >OK. The engine is in pieces, all over the garagge. All 8 ehxaust valves > >are bent. I ordered the replacement ones from Rod at TPC (as always), he > >had them for $42/ea. > > > >This is the 5th or the 6th Audi engine that I am taking apart and I > >can't help but wonder why the hell Audi _STILL_ does not make the > >segmented cutouts in the piston crowns for the exhaust valves? At least > >in the A4 they had finally gotten enough sence to make these cutouts for > >the intake valves, never mind that I don't care about those - they are > >dirt cheap in comparison with the sodium filled ehxaust valves. > > > >BTW, when I had first taken my Lada 2105 engine apart back in 1984 (and > >that car was the first Lada with a timing belt rather than the chain) I > >saw the segmnented cutouts in the piston crowns, made specifically to > >accomodate the hanging valves in the event of a belt failure. Now, that > >was a Lada, designed 20 years ago! Not exactly a paragon of the > >automotive engineering. > >And now here I am, 18 years later, bitching about this super-duper > >marvel of German engineering, five-valve-per-cylinder my ass, in the > >beginning of the 21st Century, where I still have to take the whole > >freaking engine apart only because of a stupid belt tensioner ceasing > >up. On 40,531 miles!!! Man, am I pissed! And the worst part, Audi > >pretends like nothing happened. No oficial recall issued. Turns out that > >the AEB engines shear teeth on timing belts from 30kmi to 60kmi. My > >aquaintance in Russia sez he once had a batch of 20-some cars with the > >timing belts sceased up, all exhaust valves bent. Unlike us here in the > >US they started to receive the A4-s beginning with m/y 1995. > > > >Sorry for hte A4 offtopic, folks. At the moment I am elbow-deep in my > >wife's car engine. > > > >-- > >Igor Kessel > >two turbo quattros > > > >P.S. I have decided to CC: the A4 list. Folks, if you STILL have not > >updated the crappy timing belt tensioners in your 1.8T engines, do it > >_NOW_, if not sooner. Search the audiworld archives withe the "tensioner > >+valves +bent" in the search and brace yourself for dozens of horror > >stories. Alas, the A4 has been so bullit-proof reliable over the past 4 > >years (a friggin' Honda Accord, only fun to drive) that I have > >completely neglected reading about it and have instead concentrated on > >my '97 S6. Hence the price I am paying now. > > > > > >TM wrote: > > > >>Igor- > >>You're forgetting that your car isn't an official US import- due to > >>that, it's probably > >>excluded from any VIN ranges issued by AoA. > >> > >>Taka > >> > >>-----Original Message----- > >>From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > >>[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Igor Kessel > >>Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:11 AM > >>To: s-car-list@audifans.com > >>Subject: Re: [s-cars] switch recall? > >> > >>Bob Rossato wrote: > >> > >>>Here is the link. I think the part numbers listed are for the entire > >>>switch assembly, not just the electrical half. > >>> > >>>Bob > >>> > >>>http://www.springbreakdaytonabeach.com/vwtech/www.vwwebsource.com/vwte > >>>chcont > >>>ent/pdf/kbcirc.pdf > >>> > >>Hmm.... neither my m/y, nor my VIN are listed. I wonder if it is because > >>of some Audi knocklehead recall campaign manager or because by '97 m/y > >>those switches were miraculously cured. I tend to suspect the former > >>rather than the latter. After all, my car did have the infamous fuel > >>line leak, with only at about 30kmi on the clock. > >> > >>-- > >>Igor Kessel > >>two turbo quattros _______________________________________________ > >>S-CAR-List mailing list > >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>S-CAR-List mailing list > >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > >> > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > -- > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From ken377lx at 4dv.net Fri Aug 2 11:47:59 2002 From: ken377lx at 4dv.net (Ken Lanham) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Graf Water Pump for 20valve S6 Message-ID: <3D4AB7BF.7010507@4dv.net> Thanks for the help guys. I got the Hepu pump for $45 from TPC. Awesome tip. Thanks a bunch. -Ken Lanham Englewood, CO just the guy who works on freinds Audi S cars www.denverspeed.com -------------Igor Wrote------------------- Ken, stay away from Graf. Get the proper German HEPU instead. Try TPC, last time I checked it was $59. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From brian at touchtechsystems.com Fri Aug 2 10:48:37 2002 From: brian at touchtechsystems.com (Brian @ TouchTech Systems) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? In-Reply-To: <53.1a5b2b01.2a7b625f@aol.com> Message-ID: That's right Jim! (also generically speaking) I've listed below the retail prices and specs. If you guys want to do a group buy thing I will talk to Apple about quantity discounts. Let me know and I will get them for you guys. Besides being an Audi Enthusiast, I'm also an Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller! -- Brian Presser '01 S4 Audis Northwest Club - Seattle Area Events Coordinator TouchTech Systems, Inc. Multimedia Specialists & Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller 425-227-5310 ph. 425-227-5311 fax http://www.touchtechsystems.com brian@touchtechsystems.com The 3 versions of iPods: (All are now Mac & PC compatible) $299.00 (5GB = 1,000 songs) 6.5 ounces 2.4 x 4.0 x .78 in. Apple Earphones AC Adapter FireWire cable PC FireWire adapter $399.00 (10GB = 2,000 songs) 6.5 ounces 2.4 x 4.0 x .72 in. Apple Earphones AC Adapter FireWire cable PC FireWire adapter Wired remote Carrying case $499.00 (20GB = 4,000 songs) 7.2 ounces 2.4 x 4.0 x .84 in. Apple Earphones AC Adapter FireWire cable PC FireWire adapter Wired remote Carrying case > From: Airbil@aol.com > Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:19:43 EDT > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Seemingly on a path of go fast techno junkie I am, so how about inventing > something for urS cars that would make them so cool, so advanced, way out > there? Something so unbelievably remarkable, it is sure to bring ooooo's and > ahhh's from all who see it? Something beyond alcantara, recaro's and as > necessary as the V1. An accessory not yet standard or even offered as an > option on the finest Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, or any other car in the > world? > How about making our three useless console sluggs into a flip up entryway > that opens to a soft blue alcantara lined semi secret compartment containing > a juke box that holds your ENTIRE music library? That's right "Jim" > (generically speaking and apologies to all list Jim's out there,) I'm talking > mp3 player. But not just any mp3 player, but "the" mp3player- an Ipod. > Check out this video: > http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/ipod_intro_240.html > 2,000 songs, 4 inches high x 2.4 w x 3/4" deep. Lists all your songs. > Scroll with your thumb and bring up songs by title, artist or playlist. ee > zzz! > This could be a Hapersize (tm) music system. How bout this? > http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-A > PPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/172/wo/TNGRs18V7XBr42kmH/1.3.0.3.34.1 > What's needed to do this? > 1.) Windows version due out in 4 weeks. Unless yu're Mac already. > 2.) How to neatly tap into the cars power supply. > 3.) FM transmitter I believe part of the $50 Dr Bott pkg. OR > 4.) Hard wire into the bose would be real nice, but is it possible? > 5.) Home Depot solution for making the storage box and the balls to cut out > the two plastic pillars between the sluggs. > 6.) A lightly spring loaded take up reel to tension the wires when the unit > is pulled our. > And yes I know mp3 sucks, and bose sucks say many, but to my sucky ears they > sound fine. And this ease of use and tactile fun are hard to beat. Let your > date play DJ while enjoying the comfort and speed of quattro turbo madness :) > Forget GP's. Apple dont discount for nobody:( > Whattya think? > Bill m - I'll write the BTDT if someone can tell answer no.'s 2 and 4 above. > > > BTW -I know you geezers out there are sayin whaaa? huhhh? But as my college > age kids have taught me mp3 is very cool. You'll see sooner or later, so why > not sooner. > Oh yeah and downside is you gal's gonna want one too. From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Fri Aug 2 13:57:56 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5456@NJ_DC_01> Bill: I'm not kidding. Ignition switch is a $20 part 4a0 xxx 849(b) (Don't remember the number) & it was installed in 45 minutes. My guess at the time on each procedures follows: 1) remove Instrument Cluster (btdt many times, only takes a few minutes.) 2) Pop off connector on switch ( maybe 1 minute?) 3) loosen two set screws which hold it in place -- the job could have gone MUCH quicker, because these are covered in red goo, & can't be seen. I wasted time trying to get a small Allen wrench to catch through the goo, but wasn't getting anywhere. Once I cleaned some goo away, I saw (w/inspection mirror) that I needed a small straight screwdriver, not the Allen key I was trying to use. ( about 20 minutes wasted here) 4) Pop out old, pop in new. ( 2 minutes) 5) Tighten set screws, drip in some loctite. ( 2 minutes) Stop and change starter -- About 1 hour/1 hour 15 minutes. 6) Test and replace IC. (10 minutes) I put the car on the Rhino ramps at 6 pm and was washing up by 8 pm. And yes, I did use my Kmart BENCHTOP socket set, which I still HIGHLY RECOMMEND since it's as good as craftsman (my guess is same TAIWANESE supplier) at about 1/2 the price. (I've got a Snap-on set too, but they're too pretty to use & too expensive to loose.) So go ahead, FLAME AWAY about my choice of tools! Bob (still searching for blue-light specials) -----Original Message----- From: wmahoney@disk.com [mailto:wmahoney@disk.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:38 PM To: rpastore@animalfeeds.com Subject: No A/C, no wipers, and finally, no start Bob, Ref. above has me a bit concerned for sure. Just a matter of time? Minutes? He he. But seriously, What $20 (part #) did you replace in only an hour that would circumvent this potential problem? An Hour? The ignition recall fix looked positively scarey. Hmm although you do have those nice kmart tools:) should I do anything here or just wait :-O BTW ordered Toms BIg "silvers" yesterday. ouch ! But I'll be a great poser. Thinkin all I need are the Fast Flame simulated bullet holes for that true Chicago look:) Bill From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Fri Aug 2 14:07:47 2002 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Davtron IC gauge References: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5453@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <3D4ABC63.E088EE2F@verizon.net> You need to measure the resistance of the good probe (assuming that they used the same type for each side) at two temperatures. From that information, the type of thermistor can be determined, and its room temp value. Then, you would need to search in the catalogs of electronics distributors (Newark, Allied Electronics, Digikey, etc.) for a like type. If you don't need the needle-like shape, then your options are much more extensive. kirby Robert Pastore wrote: > > Hap: > > I have an old HKS IC in/out temp gauge that I suspect was manufactured by > Westech or Davtron. It's probes (thermocouples?) are needle-like, and fit > though a 1/8" NPT fitting. One of the thermocouples is broken -- Do you > have any idea where to source something like? > HKS-USA didn't even know they ever made such a gauge. > I have the Aircraft Spruce Catalog, but could not find one in it. > Any ideas? > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: CaptMagu@aol.com [mailto:CaptMagu@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:21 AM > To: Airbil@aol.com; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? > > Bill, Bill, Bill, > > I've already put that space to use as a receptacle for my Davtron I/C temp > guage. What am I supposed to do now? > > Hap, MP3less but with plenty of other data in Evergreen, Maguire > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From cleal at internap.com Fri Aug 2 11:23:02 2002 From: cleal at internap.com (Christopher Leal) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? In-Reply-To: <10.22bc3463.2a7b6c2a@aol.com> Message-ID: Since you guys both live in the area you should get together and take a look at Javad's stainless header. -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of JShadzi@aol.com Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:02 PM To: mlped@qwest.net; tfrank@symyx.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Anyone have pictures of Audi's IMSA Merger? -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Mike, you're right, puts the turbo flange right into the frame rail, won't work on the stock cars. The IMSA piece is nice, but nothing revoloutionary, a good equal length runner manifold with a smooth collector. Some had slip joints to assist with expansion, 1.5" tubing. As far as placement, the Sport Q manifold is a good one to copy. I don't think anyone ever bid on that header, its not very useful for a car that you don't want to chop into the frame rail on. Javad In a message dated 8/1/2002 9:37:49 PM Pacific Daylight Time, mlped@qwest.net writes: > > Treavor, I am not 100% sure about this, but I don't think the IMSA EM > (there > was a purported one for sale on Ebay @ a year or so ago) is the right > configuration for the UrS4/6. > > Holly Bat S**t, now that I look, my notes have "krum3" as in Herr Krumer > attached to the low res jpeg that I saved of that EM. Let me know if you > want/need a copy of that jpeg. FWIW, I think the "reserve" on that auction > was something like +1,750 US for the EM. Did anyone on the list buy it? > > mlp > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From aaront at cox-internet.com Fri Aug 2 12:27:57 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? References: Message-ID: <3D4AC11D.1070306@cox-internet.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sounds like an interesting idea How do these compare to the hard drive type mp3 players which are designed to be installed like a cd stacker? (these of course would not fit nicely into dash) Aaron Brian @ TouchTech Systems wrote: >That's right Jim! (also generically speaking) > >I've listed below the retail prices and specs. If you guys want to do a >group buy thing I will talk to Apple about quantity discounts. >Let me know and I will get them for you guys. > >Besides being an Audi Enthusiast, I'm also an >Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller! > >-- >Brian Presser '01 S4 >Audis Northwest Club - Seattle Area Events Coordinator > >TouchTech Systems, Inc. >Multimedia Specialists & >Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller >425-227-5310 ph. >425-227-5311 fax >http://www.touchtechsystems.com >brian@touchtechsystems.com > > >The 3 versions of iPods: (All are now Mac & PC compatible) > >$299.00 (5GB = 1,000 songs) >6.5 ounces >2.4 x 4.0 x .78 in. >Apple Earphones >AC Adapter >FireWire cable >PC FireWire adapter > >$399.00 (10GB = 2,000 songs) >6.5 ounces >2.4 x 4.0 x .72 in. >Apple Earphones >AC Adapter >FireWire cable >PC FireWire adapter >Wired remote >Carrying case > >$499.00 (20GB = 4,000 songs) >7.2 ounces >2.4 x 4.0 x .84 in. >Apple Earphones >AC Adapter >FireWire cable >PC FireWire adapter >Wired remote >Carrying case > > >>From: Airbil@aol.com >>Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:19:43 EDT >>To: s-car-list@audifans.com >>Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? >> >>-- >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>Seemingly on a path of go fast techno junkie I am, so how about inventing >>something for urS cars that would make them so cool, so advanced, way out >>there? Something so unbelievably remarkable, it is sure to bring ooooo's and >>ahhh's from all who see it? Something beyond alcantara, recaro's and as >>necessary as the V1. An accessory not yet standard or even offered as an >>option on the finest Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, or any other car in the >>world? >>How about making our three useless console sluggs into a flip up entryway >>that opens to a soft blue alcantara lined semi secret compartment containing >>a juke box that holds your ENTIRE music library? That's right "Jim" >>(generically speaking and apologies to all list Jim's out there,) I'm talking >>mp3 player. But not just any mp3 player, but "the" mp3player- an Ipod. >>Check out this video: >>http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/ipod_intro_240.html >>2,000 songs, 4 inches high x 2.4 w x 3/4" deep. Lists all your songs. >>Scroll with your thumb and bring up songs by title, artist or playlist. ee >>zzz! >>This could be a Hapersize (tm) music system. How bout this? >>http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-A >>PPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/172/wo/TNGRs18V7XBr42kmH/1.3.0.3.34.1 >>What's needed to do this? >>1.) Windows version due out in 4 weeks. Unless yu're Mac already. >>2.) How to neatly tap into the cars power supply. >>3.) FM transmitter I believe part of the $50 Dr Bott pkg. OR >>4.) Hard wire into the bose would be real nice, but is it possible? >>5.) Home Depot solution for making the storage box and the balls to cut out >>the two plastic pillars between the sluggs. >>6.) A lightly spring loaded take up reel to tension the wires when the unit >>is pulled our. >>And yes I know mp3 sucks, and bose sucks say many, but to my sucky ears they >>sound fine. And this ease of use and tactile fun are hard to beat. Let your >>date play DJ while enjoying the comfort and speed of quattro turbo madness :) >>Forget GP's. Apple dont discount for nobody:( >>Whattya think? >>Bill m - I'll write the BTDT if someone can tell answer no.'s 2 and 4 above. >> >> >>BTW -I know you geezers out there are sayin whaaa? huhhh? But as my college >>age kids have taught me mp3 is very cool. You'll see sooner or later, so why >>not sooner. >>Oh yeah and downside is you gal's gonna want one too. >> > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- From panderso at maine.rr.com Fri Aug 2 14:40:22 2002 From: panderso at maine.rr.com (Peter Anderson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I think this is pretty cool (I use Macs at work and at home) but I also think a bit of due diligence is in order. Brian, how about checking the tech specs on the ipod for Apple's accepted operating / storage temps. Automotive applications (car interiors) can experience some amazing temperature extremes and a computer hard drive is a sensitive device. Just some food for thought.... -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed On 08/02/02 12:48 PM, "Brian @ TouchTech Systems" wrote: > That's right Jim! (also generically speaking) > > I've listed below the retail prices and specs. If you guys want to do a > group buy thing I will talk to Apple about quantity discounts. > Let me know and I will get them for you guys. > > Besides being an Audi Enthusiast, I'm also an > Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller! > snip From tvandervoort at msn.com Fri Aug 2 13:29:11 2002 From: tvandervoort at msn.com (Tom Vandervoort) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] FW: To Taka, Love Jon Message-ID: Jon asked me to fwd this to the list. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Jon Linkov [mailto:jlinkov@gstockco.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 12:09 PM To: Tom Vandervoort Subject: Can yous send this to the s-car list? Taka - I don't have a problem if you joins at all. Only stipulaton is that you just has to use me as a referral, so I can get an entry into the membership drive! Jon From tvandervoort at msn.com Fri Aug 2 13:33:25 2002 From: tvandervoort at msn.com (Tom Vandervoort) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] FW: S-Cars at Audi Club Nationals Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Combination Events: one from column 1, one from column 2Again, Jon asked me to fwd to the list. Tom -----Original Message----- From: Jon Linkov [mailto:jon@audicarclubna.org] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 1:36 PM To: Tom Vandervoort Subject: Combination Events: one from column 1, one from column 2 To: S-car nuts! From: Jon Linkov ? National nut and UrQ money waster Re: S-car nationals demise ...and Phoenix-like rise at Audi Club North America nationals? Hi folks - I?ve followed (in the archives and some forwarded messages) about the S-Cars event and its subsequent cancelation. I?m sorry to hear about that, as I do understand the planning that goes into these things (and the $$ involved!). I?ve been contacted by a few people (Tom Vandervoort and Scott Thompson) about the possibility of incorporating some S-Cars Nationals events into the Audi Club North America nationals (October 4-8, still room left, sign up at www.audicarclubna.org!) this October. Darin and I have exchanged e-mails and we?ll hopefully talk tonight or this weekend. I?d like to try and see what we can do to help out. We?re very far into our plannine/execution of the event, as there are just over 60-days until the ACNA Nationals. But, we?ve got a lot going on, and free time, and ...well, like I said, Darin and I will try to work something out. Of course, you?re all welcome to attend the ACNA nationals anyway, and participate in what we have planned. If you are a member of the club, great, just send in your application. Not a member? Hey, no problem, you can join on the registration form and include your one-, two-, or three-year dues! Which leads me to this: If we set something up, and there is a tag-along S-cars event(s) during the ACNA Nationals, great. I?m glad something works out. BUT, you have to be an ACNA member to participate in the driver school, tech-talks, dinners, Dyno events, etc. I know that?ll exclude some of you and that?s your choice. But that?s the rules for all attendees of the ACNA Nationals. So, I?m sure Darin will fill you in more after he and I talk. Feel free to e-mail me with questions (or hate mail!) at: 2002nationals@audicarclubna.org Best regards Jon Linkov -- From pramtt at pacbell.net Fri Aug 2 12:35:48 2002 From: pramtt at pacbell.net (Pram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Peter: I am already using the Ipod with my e-class. Used it almost a year now. It pretty much resides in the car glove box unless I am charging or using it. So far, no problem. Surely beats swapping CDs and/or CD magazines between cars and home. I might go to the 10Gb or the 20Gb version since my 5Gb version is already maxed out (full). Pram On Friday, August 2, 2002, at 10:40 AM, Peter Anderson wrote: > I think this is pretty cool (I use Macs at work and at home) but I also > think a bit of due diligence is in order. Brian, how about checking the > tech specs on the ipod for Apple's accepted operating / storage temps. > Automotive applications (car interiors) can experience some amazing > temperature extremes and a computer hard drive is a sensitive device. > Just > some food for thought.... > > > -- > Peter Anderson > 93 S4 6speed > > > On 08/02/02 12:48 PM, "Brian @ TouchTech Systems" > wrote: > >> That's right Jim! (also generically speaking) >> >> I've listed below the retail prices and specs. If you guys want to do a >> group buy thing I will talk to Apple about quantity discounts. >> Let me know and I will get them for you guys. >> >> Besides being an Audi Enthusiast, I'm also an >> Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller! >> > snip > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From brian at atomicham.com Fri Aug 2 13:53:00 2002 From: brian at atomicham.com (Brian Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? Message-ID: <112EA0D4-A649-11D6-84C9-000393682382@atomicham.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Besides being an Audi Enthusiast, I'm also an > Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller! I have had a 10GB iPod for a few months now and it is incredible! I have it fully wired into my 20v (a Blaupunkt radio with line-in). Now, we just need to figure out how to add a line-in to the Bose setup of our urQ and we're set. You can get a cigarette lighter power adapter from Dr. Bott and wire that into the power source (for my 97 S6, it is right there in the console)... Cheers, Brian -- From tedebearp at yahoo.com Fri Aug 2 13:16:04 2002 From: tedebearp at yahoo.com (Theodore Chen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fwd: RS2 brackets In-Reply-To: <3D45D28D.37A59B2B@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <20020802191604.38329.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> the differential piston sizing is intended to compensate for the fact that the leading edge of the pad (the edge of the pad that the rotor sees first as it's spinning) has a tendency to toe in. i agree - it's not a good idea to switch the calipers around. you'll get a lot of tapered wear on the pads. -teddy --- Igor Kessel wrote: > No, Ingo, it is not such a good idea. Although I admit, I was tempted > just to swap the sides instead of swapping the lines. The pistons are of > different DIA. I guess (although don't know for sure) that the reversal > of the pistons would create some kind of uneven brake pressure > distribution. Prolly would create some kind of shimmy problem or > something like that. Them Hans und Klaus guys must have elected the > different piston DIA for a reason. I feel it is best not to challenge > their design. > > Igor > > "Ingo D. Rautenberg" wrote: > > > > Then I take it a left > right swap and vise versa would not work in this > > instance (as one would think it would)? > > > > Ingo (satisfied mit his Big Reds) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: > > To: ""TM"" ; ""'Igor Kessel'"" > > Cc: ""'Paul Friedenberg'"" ; ; > > > > Sent: Monday, July 29, 2002 6:50 PM > > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Fwd: RS2 brackets > > > > > Then the bleed nipples are on the bottom of the caliper facing down, not > > the best for bleeding air out of a caliper. > > > > > > Javad > > > > > > In a message dated Mon, 29 Jul 2002 5:14:31 PM Eastern Standard Time, > "TM" > > writes: > > > > > > >What happens when the hard line is not reversed? > > > > > > > >I didn't check this, I didn't install the brakes myself, wondering > > > >if that was done correctly (I sure hope so), as the orientation > > > >is the same issue on the 200. > > > > > > > >Funny thing is, 944 turbos use a leading edge configuration and > > > >I just saw a customer's insane 3L 16v 944 turbo with 993tt brakes. > > > > > > > >Taka > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/2002 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From tectonic1 at mac.com Fri Aug 2 16:37:54 2002 From: tectonic1 at mac.com (Peter) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Part numbers for the Audi Floor Mats I asked about... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: This is the same number I was given by my stealership. Peter Anderson 93 S4 6 speed On 8/2/02 11:29 AM, "Robert F. Eagleye" wrote: > Front in Black is: 4A1 061 601 5TZ From uberseehandel at yahoo.com Fri Aug 2 13:41:54 2002 From: uberseehandel at yahoo.com (Robin St.Clair) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players In-Reply-To: <20020802180044.3CD5C495@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20020802194154.60506.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Guys This is a subject I have researched. Everybody to whom I have spoken in the business, US and Germany, tells me t= hat the FM interface is not worth installing, very poor sound quality. As far as the iPod is concerned, the interface is Firewire, apart from Mac = and Sony owners, how many people have that? phatnoise have a system which replaces the CD Changer and has been adopted = by Kenwood, it works particularly well with Concert and Symphony radios Systems based on the IBM Microdrive can interface to the PC Card interface = in laptops. I am running with a solution that integrates the mp3 player and Digital Sat= radio with the Audi Navigation System Plus - this way you get TV, External= video, CD, radio, Sat radio, mp3, telephone, traffic alerts, navigation pr= ompting, telematics, GSM phone, with all muting and GALA functions operatin= g correctly. As you might imagine, this has been a lot of research and its = not a cheap solution. HTH R+C --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better From vfugman at globaldialog.com Fri Aug 2 17:29:16 2002 From: vfugman at globaldialog.com (Varon H. Fugman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players In-Reply-To: <20020802194154.60506.qmail@web14310.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: While an FM interface may not be as good as a direct line-in connection, I wouldn't rule it out so quickly. Consider this, the sound from a good quality FM modulator fed into the factory head unit will sound *at least* as good as the best FM radio station. In my pre-Audi days, I used an FM modulator to feed sound from my Sony Discman into my factory radio and was very pleased with the results. Yes, I know that using FM will pretty much roll off anything above 15kHz, and the dynamic range may be somewhat compressed, but in a noisy car environment that can be a good thing. If you are happy with the sound quality from regular FM radio then using an FM modulator to feed MP3, satellite radio, or DVD sound into the factory radio may work just fine. If not, then not! But if sound quality is paramount, you probably shouldn't be looking at a technology that uses such a lossy compression algorithm. Face it, MP3 is about convenience and accessibility, not sound quality! However, another reason to avoid an FM solution may be the diversity antenna system on some of the factory radios--where there are two antennas for better FM reception. These systems use a variety of non-standard antenna connections that won't easily hook up with an FM modulator. I need to pull out my factory Bose head unit and see what is back there. For those wanting to do an MP3 music source in lieu of the CD changer, it would be very handy if we could use the line inputs normally used by the CD changer. But how to tell the head unit to switch to those inputs if there in no changer hooked up? Anybody done it? Varon Fugman '95 urS6 P.S. You may want to take a look at some of the "ready-made" in-car MP3 solutions. Prices from Crutchfield catalog. Of course, you can take an iPod anywhere! And it may be a less expensive solution. What we need is a docking station similar to a cell phone hands free kit! Kenwood eXcelon Music Keg http://www.kenwoodusa.com/excelon/excelonKeg.jsp ($749) Blaupunkt MDP-01 MP3 Microdrive ($799) Works with new Blaupunkt receivers, controlled like a CD changer http://www.blaupunktusa.com/receivers/receivers_cd_changers.html From vfugman at globaldialog.com Fri Aug 2 17:39:40 2002 From: vfugman at globaldialog.com (Varon H. Fugman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Nokia handsfree kit in urS4/S6? Message-ID: I'm getting ready to install a Nokia CARK-91US hands free kit into my '95 S6 and interface it with the factory speaker/microphone connections in the trunk. I've found and read 3 different (but similar) set of instructions, but they all seem to apply to '98-'01 A4/S4 cars. I figure I've got enough to go on if I take it slow, test things one at a time, etc. But before I start, has anyone already BTDT on an urS-car? (Better yet on a '95 S6 with factory Bose system!) Or are there any instructions floating around there more specific to my car? And if not, should I take the time to document my install? Anybody interested? Varon '95 urS6 From t44tq at mindspring.com Fri Aug 2 18:40:24 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002701c23a6d$35b5ac20$0d42fea9@newpc> It's funny that you all are talking about FM modulators as not being very good when the factory CD in the pre-Delta head units use FM modulation to feed signal from the CD changer! The Bose system doesn't have enough high frequency response for you to really tell the difference between FM modulated and a direct input even if there were one. :-) Keith, Ray and some others know what I'm talking about. Taka From t44tq at mindspring.com Fri Aug 2 18:49:52 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Nokia handsfree kit in urS4/S6? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002801c23a6e$8884bfd0$0d42fea9@newpc> Please photograph and document the install, especially noting the differences from the A4/S4 install, which is documented on Audiworld. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Varon H. Fugman Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:40 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Nokia handsfree kit in urS4/S6? I'm getting ready to install a Nokia CARK-91US hands free kit into my '95 S6 and interface it with the factory speaker/microphone connections in the trunk. I've found and read 3 different (but similar) set of instructions, but they all seem to apply to '98-'01 A4/S4 cars. I figure I've got enough to go on if I take it slow, test things one at a time, etc. But before I start, has anyone already BTDT on an urS-car? (Better yet on a '95 S6 with factory Bose system!) Or are there any instructions floating around there more specific to my car? And if not, should I take the time to document my install? Anybody interested? Varon '95 urS6 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From wmahoney at disk.com Fri Aug 2 18:47:02 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] urS-Ipod Message-ID: <3D4B0BE5.787BE5E5@disk.com> Varon, I'll bet this helps somewhat :) http://home.attbi.com/~jbipes/ttr/auxin1.html Looks like a toggled relay spliced into the cd player line would do the trick. Duh Why didnt I think of that? This internet is sumthin huh? Question is what does the back of the head unit look like and which wires are the CD player wires that need to be spliced? Not a bad looking ipod cradle end result either. Figuring out the electrical connections is the first step. It may be worth the exercise too when the time comes to try the fm modulator, but bear in mind that that will need a power source too (other than batteries would be nice.) Next, Where / how to mount it for easy access yet not get stolen. Cheers' Bill M 95 1/2 -Audio Avant but not yet mp3:( From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Fri Aug 2 19:01:50 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ABS Fuse Location Found Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50D3@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Hey Guys, I found the location of the hidden ABS fuse that I have not been able to find in over a week. Symptoms: After Jump-start the ABS light was stuck on and the ABS did not work. Hitting the ABS switch on my 92 S4 did nothing. Solution: With the insight from Dave J. he pointed me in the right direction. The fuse was blown on the drivers side kick panel..the 10 AMP fuse sits on a relay. Just have to remove 2 screws to access. This is NOT the main fuse panel..but a fuse that is next to the drivers left foot near the Hood Open Lever. Took about 5 min to change. Light is off and ABS now works. Just wanted to add some more knowledge to the s-car database. Cheers have a great weekend! cp From lee at wheelman.com Fri Aug 2 22:01:57 2002 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Nokia handsfree kit in urS4/S6? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: When I installed my Nokia setup, I knew I wasn't going back to the factory system anytime soon, so I simply spliced a mini plug onto the speaker wires. When I get a good A pillar trim piece with a microphone, I'll do the same thing with that. No big deal. Only thing I don't get is automuting for incoming calls, which would be nice. Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Varon H. Fugman > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 5:40 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Nokia handsfree kit in urS4/S6? > > > I'm getting ready to install a Nokia CARK-91US hands free kit > into my '95 S6 > and interface it with the factory speaker/microphone connections in the > trunk. > > I've found and read 3 different (but similar) set of > instructions, but they > all seem to apply to '98-'01 A4/S4 cars. I figure I've got > enough to go on > if I take it slow, test things one at a time, etc. > > But before I start, has anyone already BTDT on an urS-car? > (Better yet on a > '95 S6 with factory Bose system!) Or are there any instructions floating > around there more specific to my car? > > And if not, should I take the time to document my install? Anybody > interested? > > Varon > '95 urS6 > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Fri Aug 2 22:32:55 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] urS-Ipod Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C545E@NJ_DC_01> Somewhere, I have an original Blaupunkt diagram of the radio pin-outs. I haven't seen it for quite a while, but I'll give a look on Monday, and post a picture of it i I can find it. IIRC, it looks a lot like the label in the link you provided Regards, Bob -----Original Message----- From: wmahoney@disk.com [mailto:wmahoney@disk.com] Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 6:47 PM To: vfugman@globaldialog.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] urS-Ipod Varon, I'll bet this helps somewhat :) http://home.attbi.com/~jbipes/ttr/auxin1.html Looks like a toggled relay spliced into the cd player line would do the trick. Duh Why didnt I think of that? This internet is sumthin huh? Question is what does the back of the head unit look like and which wires are the CD player wires that need to be spliced? Not a bad looking ipod cradle end result either. Figuring out the electrical connections is the first step. It may be worth the exercise too when the time comes to try the fm modulator, but bear in mind that that will need a power source too (other than batteries would be nice.) Next, Where / how to mount it for easy access yet not get stolen. Cheers' Bill M 95 1/2 -Audio Avant but not yet mp3:( _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From rpecsar at pacbell.net Fri Aug 2 22:57:35 2002 From: rpecsar at pacbell.net (Rob Pecsar) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] VAG 1619 wanted for rent/burrow/beg Message-ID: <3D4B62BF.E441E415@pacbell.net> I'm fed up with the 2 minute AIRBAG light, which started after a carwash. I have VAG-COM but Uwe says that it doesn't communicate with '92 Airbags. I have tried disconnecting the battery, airbag Power Connector, Energy Reserve, and Voltage Transformer. No clues on the schematic and Bentley says to use a VAG 1619. If anyone has one, please may I rent it and pick up freight both ways(and deposit). Aside from the dealer, any other source? TIA, Rob Pecsar From dkpriebe at attbi.com Fri Aug 2 23:25:08 2002 From: dkpriebe at attbi.com (dkpriebe) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 References: <3D49BE23.F7EFAF62@disk.com> Message-ID: <005f01c23aae$227c7ee0$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but all indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available on CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions on who may still have one? Dave Priebe Kenmore, WA 91 200tqa 158k his 95.5 S6 100k hers From dan at s-cars.org Sat Aug 3 01:30:51 2002 From: dan at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 References: <3D49BE23.F7EFAF62@disk.com> <005f01c23aae$227c7ee0$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> Message-ID: <000701c23aae$eeda4e40$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> Probably keep checking Ebay. If you get a paper version, I may need to borrow it at some point since we are so close!!!! ;^) I have heard the paper version is MUCH better than the CD version which I've seen, and not too terribly impressed with. But, your suspicions are correct. I have heard that the factory paper manuals are no longer available (at least not through Robert Bentley). Good luck. Later, Dan '94 S4 (Black/ecru)... For Sale '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "dkpriebe" To: Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 12:25 AM Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 > I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked Amazon, > Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but all > indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available on > CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions on who may > still have one? > > Dave Priebe > Kenmore, WA > 91 200tqa 158k his > 95.5 S6 100k hers > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From igor at s-cars.org Sat Aug 3 09:32:03 2002 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 References: <3D49BE23.F7EFAF62@disk.com> <005f01c23aae$227c7ee0$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> Message-ID: <3D4BCD43.14D0B28@s-cars.org> dkpriebe wrote: > > I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked Amazon, > Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but all > indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available on > CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions on who may > still have one? > > Dave Priebe > Kenmore, WA > 91 200tqa 158k his > 95.5 S6 100k hers Dave, I used to buy Bentley for my former Audis from: DYMENT DISTRIBUTION 800-544-8021 216-572-0725 20770 WESTWOOD DRIVE STRONGSVILLE, OH 44136 -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From skippertgore at hotmail.com Sat Aug 3 17:13:25 2002 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players Message-ID: Varon, H+C, et al Consider this, the sound from a good quality FM modulator fed into the factory head unit will sound *at least* as good as the best FM radio station. And, remember that human ears cannot hear much beyond approx. 45-13,000 hz or so (i can't remember the exact numbers) - Point being, it's pretty close to what an FM modulator is capable of. < more snips> Face it, MP3 is about convenience and accessibility, not sound quality! Exactly. Also remember (depending on speed) that the interior crusing speed noise inside the car with the windows up is 70-72 db (Stromung's not included). So can those other frequencies be missed? depends on how good your hearng is, and whether or not you care. However, another reason to avoid an FM solution may be the diversity antenna system on some of the factory radios--where there are two antennas for You can work around that/ I was a little puzzled when I replaced my whole Bose set up. However, one antenna hooked up is sufficient for good radio around me. AM is another story... I haven't figured that one out yet. my .02, -Matt, CT 92 s4, with Pioneer, Rockford, and Boston. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From jpostup at yahoo.com Sat Aug 3 11:16:30 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Davtron IC gauge In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5453@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <20020803171630.56537.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com> Bob, One of my friends is an experienced Mech Engr. He recommended McMaster Carr. It;s a huge catalog with all types of ME items. Once I get home, I can send you details from my copy there. Or just search on that name. Jeff Posto --- Robert Pastore wrote: > Hap: > > I have an old HKS IC in/out temp gauge that I > suspect was manufactured by > Westech or Davtron. It's probes (thermocouples?) > are needle-like, and fit > though a 1/8" NPT fitting. One of the thermocouples > is broken -- Do you > have any idea where to source something like? > HKS-USA didn't even know they ever made such a > gauge. > I have the Aircraft Spruce Catalog, but could not > find one in it. > Any ideas? > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > From: CaptMagu@aol.com [mailto:CaptMagu@aol.com] > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:21 AM > To: Airbil@aol.com; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? > > > Bill, Bill, Bill, > > I've already put that space to use as a receptacle > for my Davtron I/C temp > guage. What am I supposed to do now? > > Hap, MP3less but with plenty of other data in > Evergreen, Maguire > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From jpostup at yahoo.com Sat Aug 3 11:22:05 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020803172205.29355.qmail@web10905.mail.yahoo.com> MP3. I agree the fidelity is a compromise, keep in mind most MP3's are ripped at the lowest bit rate, 64KBps, to use the least amount of memory. Most MP3 rippers, I believe, offer higher bit rate settings. I use Sound Forge and set to 256K.. sure I chew up disk space, but balance that with the largest drive you can afford. I find at the higher bit rates, in cruising car spees with road noise, I cannot tell the diff. My 13 yr old son may, but face it boys, we grow deaf as we age! The random access nature of MP3 disk stores, combined with a fast input like FireWire is hard to beat. I have used 3 Sony cartridges with 10 discs each prior. Yeah, I yielded to the ease of use, and higher bit rates, its not bad. JP --- Matt Russell wrote: > Varon, H+C, et al > > Consider this, the sound from a good > quality FM modulator fed into the factory head unit > will sound *at least* as > good as the best FM radio station. > > > And, remember that human ears cannot hear much > beyond approx. 45-13,000 hz > or so (i can't remember the exact numbers) - Point > being, it's pretty close > to what an FM modulator is capable of. > > < more snips> > Face it, MP3 is about convenience and accessibility, > not sound quality! > > Exactly. Also remember (depending on speed) that > the interior crusing speed > noise inside the car with the windows up is 70-72 db > (Stromung's not > included). So can those other frequencies be > missed? depends on how good > your hearng is, and whether or not you care. > > However, another reason to avoid an FM solution may > be the diversity antenna > system on some of the factory radios--where there > are two antennas for > > You can work around that/ I was a little puzzled > when I replaced my whole > Bose set up. However, one antenna hooked up is > sufficient for good radio > around me. AM is another story... I haven't figured > that one out yet. > > my .02, > -Matt, CT > 92 s4, with Pioneer, Rockford, and Boston. > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN > Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From igor at s-cars.org Sat Aug 3 14:27:18 2002 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Davtron IC gauge References: <20020803171630.56537.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D4C1276.58E25B47@s-cars.org> Oh, yeah, the incomparable, indispensible, thick-as-a-brick (forgive me, I.A.) yellow hardcopy. Let there not be a single toilet tank top w/o one in every S-lister's bathroom. :) The choice of every engineer in the nation. Can also be found at www.mcmaster.com . -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros jeff posto wrote: > > Bob, > > One of my friends is an experienced Mech Engr. > He recommended McMaster Carr. It;s a huge catalog with > all types of ME items. > > Once I get home, I can send you details from my copy > there. Or just search on that name. > > Jeff Posto > > --- Robert Pastore wrote: > > Hap: > > > > I have an old HKS IC in/out temp gauge that I > > suspect was manufactured by > > Westech or Davtron. It's probes (thermocouples?) > > are needle-like, and fit > > though a 1/8" NPT fitting. One of the thermocouples > > is broken -- Do you > > have any idea where to source something like? > > HKS-USA didn't even know they ever made such a > > gauge. > > I have the Aircraft Spruce Catalog, but could not > > find one in it. > > Any ideas? > > > > Bob > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: CaptMagu@aol.com [mailto:CaptMagu@aol.com] > > Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 10:21 AM > > To: Airbil@aol.com; s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: Re: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? > > > > > > Bill, Bill, Bill, > > > > I've already put that space to use as a receptacle > > for my Davtron I/C temp > > guage. What am I supposed to do now? > > > > Hap, MP3less but with plenty of other data in > > Evergreen, Maguire > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From carreragt at rennlist.com Sat Aug 3 22:22:32 2002 From: carreragt at rennlist.com (Thompson Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: urS-Ipod In-Reply-To: <20020803052009.55C8A381@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: I've wanted to install this trick little Mac iPod unit into both my quattros. Since I've installed a //S4 Gamma head unit into my urquattro I want to do it even more. Here is the image of the back of my //S4 head unit that's in my urquattro. http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen/gammaradio.jpg I have also listed some of the connections. At the time I marked up the image I had not yet installed the radio and some of the connection labels are mixed up. But, for the most part the labels are correct. Regards, Thompson > From: s-car-list-request@audifans.com > Reply-To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:20:09 -0400 (EDT) > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: S-CAR-List digest, Vol 1 #283 - 14 msgs > > urS-Ipod From t44tq at mindspring.com Sat Aug 3 22:31:24 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: urS-Ipod In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000c01c23b56$a599c6e0$0d42fea9@newpc> In reply to one of your questions, the reason there is only one connection for each speaker in the plug is because Audi/Bose used a common ground setup for the speakers, unlike most "standard" car audio setups. I don't see how you can tap into the system, but it would be interesting to hear what you end up doing. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Smith Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:23 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Re: urS-Ipod I've wanted to install this trick little Mac iPod unit into both my quattros. Since I've installed a //S4 Gamma head unit into my urquattro I want to do it even more. Here is the image of the back of my //S4 head unit that's in my urquattro. http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen/gammaradio.jpg I have also listed some of the connections. At the time I marked up the image I had not yet installed the radio and some of the connection labels are mixed up. But, for the most part the labels are correct. Regards, Thompson > From: s-car-list-request@audifans.com > Reply-To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 01:20:09 -0400 (EDT) > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: S-CAR-List digest, Vol 1 #283 - 14 msgs > > urS-Ipod _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From GJWArch at 95959.com Sat Aug 3 22:01:50 2002 From: GJWArch at 95959.com (Greg Wolters) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:29 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Replacing 875ktq Message-ID: <3D4CA725.A8B4587C@95959.com> Doyt, Do what I did... get an S4! My favorite, and the one I traveled to Utah to buy, is a 1994. I look forward to every time I get to drive it! Still have my for sale 86 4KCSQ. It's a totally different driving experience, better in a few ways but I really love the S4... Get one... get one now! Greg 94 S4 86 4KCSQ "Doyt W. Echelberger" wrote: > No, it's not gone yet, but it is getting pretty old. My 87 5ktq is turning > 250k miles this year and I am thinking about what my next car will > be.....around the time the 87 hits 300k. Candidates certainly are the 91 > 200q and those that followed in the "S" series, or maybe one of the new > VW's that share some Audi engines. From linust at mindspring.com Sat Aug 3 23:31:24 2002 From: linust at mindspring.com (Linus Toy) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: urS-Ipod In-Reply-To: <000c01c23b56$a599c6e0$0d42fea9@newpc> References: Message-ID: <4.2.0.58.20020803222332.01bfec40@127.0.0.1> Although the Audi/Bose system uses a common ground for speakers, if the install is like the '91 200q, you'll find that all speakers have 2 conductors leading to them from the wiring harness behind the radio--just peel back the wrappings a few inches, and you'll find where the speaker grounds were swedged together, along with a short jumper to the COM terminal on the wiring harness (the connector pin just to the right of the RF speaker +. Although these speaker wires are used in the Bose system for a line-level signal, I have successfully converted them to high-level output lines for a basic conversion--just break the common ground and properly wire into the new head unit's harness. In my case, it is an Alpine 7284 head unit feeding Pyle 6x9 rear & 4" front. I even reused the stock connector at the speaker end, simply ignoring the power & ground leads used by the original speaker amps. --Linus At 09:31 PM 8/3/2002 -0400, TM wrote: >In reply to one of your questions, the reason there is only one >connection for each speaker in the plug is because Audi/Bose used >a common ground setup for the speakers, unlike most "standard" >car audio setups. > >I don't see how you can tap into the system, but it would be >interesting to hear what you end up doing. > >Taka > >-----Original Message----- >From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com >[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Smith >Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 9:23 PM >To: s-car-list@audifans.com >Subject: [s-cars] Re: urS-Ipod > > >I've wanted to install this trick little Mac iPod unit into both my >quattros. Since I've installed a //S4 Gamma head unit into my urquattro >I want to do it even more. Here is the image of the back of my //S4 head >unit that's in my urquattro. > > http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen/gammaradio.jpg > >I have also listed some of the connections. At the time I marked up the >image I had not yet installed the radio and some of the connection >labels are mixed up. But, for the most part the labels are correct. > >Regards, >Thompson *--------------------------------------------------------------------* * Linus Toy Insanity is doing the same thing * * Mercer Island, WA you've always done and expecting * * linust@mindspring.com different results * * - Roger Milliken * *--------------------------------------------------------------------* From dan at s-cars.org Sun Aug 4 00:55:10 2002 From: dan at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Replacing 875ktq References: <3D4CA725.A8B4587C@95959.com> Message-ID: <003c01c23b73$1da7a8c0$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> BTW, I have a '94 Audi S4 for sale if anyone is interested... '94 S4 Quattro Black/ecru leather interior. Heated seats, phone, etc... Great condition in and out. All stcok condition, never tracked. Always garaged (home and work). New SP8000's on Borbet wheels. 95K miles. Many new parts. Asking $15,900 obo. Call me or email me if you need any additional info... Dan Hussey dhussey@accessor.com 206-661-1976 BTW, I went from an '89 200tq to the '94 S4. It made for a very nice upgrade!! Later, Dan '94 S4 (Black/ecru)... For Sale '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Wolters" To: "s-car-list" Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 11:01 PM Subject: [s-cars] Replacing 875ktq > Doyt, > > Do what I did... get an S4! > > My favorite, and the one I traveled to Utah to buy, is a 1994. > > I look forward to every time I get to drive it! > > Still have my for sale 86 4KCSQ. It's a totally different driving > experience, > better in a few ways but I really love the S4... > > Get one... get one now! > > Greg > > 94 S4 > 86 4KCSQ > > "Doyt W. Echelberger" wrote: > > > No, it's not gone yet, but it is getting pretty old. My 87 5ktq is > turning > > 250k miles this year and I am thinking about what my next car will > > be.....around the time the 87 hits 300k. Candidates certainly are the > 91 > > 200q and those that followed in the "S" series, or maybe one of the > new > > VW's that share some Audi engines. > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From miikka.salonen at welho.com Sun Aug 4 13:21:59 2002 From: miikka.salonen at welho.com (Miikka Salonen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Just for fun (image manipulation) Message-ID: Hi Here is some "what if" pictures: RS2 SportQuattro: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/audifinns/files/TEMP/sport_RS2evo2.JPG S6 SportQuattro: http://koti.welho.com/msalone2/coupes6.jpg -Miikka- PS. My urS4 looks like this after little accident... Now the S6 conversion is completed, at least after I get the 6-speed gearbox this month. http://koti.welho.com/msalone2/auto7.jpg From ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com Sun Aug 4 09:04:19 2002 From: ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com (ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Waterford Hill event Message-ID: <47.20f3cde3.2a7e7243@aol.com> Hi List, Are there any of you out of town UR-S's who are coming to Clarkston for the ACCNA Waterford Hill event held August 29-30? or will I, now that Keith Maddock's "one lap monster" is in Portland, be the lone UR-S on the track? Shawn Clarkston MI 95 S6 91 200q20v wagon 96 A4 2.8q From robert at s-cars.org Sun Aug 4 08:54:53 2002 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Waterford Hill event In-Reply-To: <47.20f3cde3.2a7e7243@aol.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804075314.030f8ec0@mail.charter.net> And for us uninitiated, where is Waterford Hill? Which Portland? At 08:04 AM 8/4/02, ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com wrote: >Hi List, > >Are there any of you out of town UR-S's who are coming to Clarkston for the >ACCNA Waterford Hill event held August 29-30? or will I, now that Keith >Maddock's "one lap monster" is in Portland, be the lone UR-S on the track? > >Shawn >Clarkston MI >95 S6 >91 200q20v wagon >96 A4 2.8q >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/02 Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From irautenberg at comcast.net Sun Aug 4 09:47:23 2002 From: irautenberg at comcast.net (Ingo Rautenberg) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Waterford Hill event References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020804075314.030f8ec0@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <002701c23bb5$144b8c50$42d22844@home> Ah, that's actually Waterford Hills, Michigan -- North West of Detroit. It's a ~1.2 Mile track that's got everything (off camber turns, elevation changes, esses, etc.) except really long straights. See: http://www.waterfordhills.com/ I'm not sure if I'll make it this year (though I should since it's as close to my back yard as it gets. I've driven the v8q and 200q20v on the track (as well as the 4kq) and the type 44 cars aren't the best suited (C4 not far behind in that regard). If I do drive it, I'll either take the 200q20v or the Urq. I believe Keith's car went to Portland, Oregon. -Ingo '91 200q20v...Slightly modified '83 Urquattro ('90 v8q RIP) http://hometown.aol.com/quattringo/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Myers" To: ; ; <200q20v@audifans.com> Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 7:54 AM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Waterford Hill event > And for us uninitiated, where is Waterford Hill? Which Portland? > > At 08:04 AM 8/4/02, ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com wrote: > > >Hi List, > > > >Are there any of you out of town UR-S's who are coming to Clarkston for the > >ACCNA Waterford Hill event held August 29-30? or will I, now that Keith > >Maddock's "one lap monster" is in Portland, be the lone UR-S on the track? > > > >Shawn > >Clarkston MI > >95 S6 > >91 200q20v wagon > >96 A4 2.8q > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/02 > > Bob > ***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm > ***** > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Sun Aug 4 10:56:42 2002 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players References: Message-ID: <3D4D329A.677CDE55@verizon.net> Is the FM frequency adjustable. One could probably capacitively couple it to either window's antenna at some frequency not used locally. FM works on a limiting principle, and once Station 1 is several dB above Station 2, at the antenna, it fully suppresses the other station. With this approach there would not need to be a lot of messing around with the back of the radio. However, vehicles close to you might pick up what you are playing. I don't remember what range one can transmit on this band without FCC approval. It is short, but I don't think it is zero. Capacitively coupling to the antenna would, I think, provide adequate signal without much emission. kirby Matt Russell wrote: > > Varon, H+C, et al > > Consider this, the sound from a good > quality FM modulator fed into the factory head unit will sound *at least* as > good as the best FM radio station. > > > And, remember that human ears cannot hear much beyond approx. 45-13,000 hz > or so (i can't remember the exact numbers) - Point being, it's pretty close > to what an FM modulator is capable of. > > < more snips> > Face it, MP3 is about convenience and accessibility, not sound quality! > > Exactly. Also remember (depending on speed) that the interior crusing speed > noise inside the car with the windows up is 70-72 db (Stromung's not > included). So can those other frequencies be missed? depends on how good > your hearng is, and whether or not you care. > > However, another reason to avoid an FM solution may be the diversity antenna > system on some of the factory radios--where there are two antennas for > > You can work around that/ I was a little puzzled when I replaced my whole > Bose set up. However, one antenna hooked up is sufficient for good radio > around me. AM is another story... I haven't figured that one out yet. > > my .02, > -Matt, CT > 92 s4, with Pioneer, Rockford, and Boston. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Todd at CompuSulting.com Sun Aug 4 12:47:01 2002 From: Todd at CompuSulting.com (Todd Penny) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CO Car for sale - 95 S6 MTM 1+ 71k miles black/ecru Excellent $20,995 303-910-0857 Message-ID: <000201c23bdf$21216e20$7d349c40@compusulting.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] www.compusulting.com/audi for details. Thanks Todd. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 -- From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Sun Aug 4 14:01:30 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50D9@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Robert and All, Thanks for the information I just got done replacing all my 1.2Watt Bulbs with Osram 2Watt. Here are my notes for the list: -1) Purchased 10 Osram 2-Watt Green Base Bulbs from ThePartsBin.com Part#2722 MF $1.98 a pc. -2) Removing instrument cluster is pretty easy actually. Hardest part is figuring out how to disconnect all the electrical connections on the back. Most are pretty easy but the ones with the "pink" clip on the top are easy once you figure it out. Just need it take a small flathead screwdriver and lift the pink clip stright up. Also a pair of "snips" to cut off a zip tie are useful. -3) You will need a Torx T10 bit to get to some of the bulbs (Speedo & Tach) -4) I found out the bulbs fit pretty good however I would take a pair of needle nose pliers and crip down the Osram bulb metal contacts a little tigher so they fit tighter in the connectors. -5) Applied some Stabilant22 to all contacts..cheapest place I could find it was from Motorola Part#11-80369E78 for around $38.00 for 15ml (ouch!) -6) Also while I had the cluser off I places a small piece of tape over the dummy alert buzzer...door open, lights on, stereo on etc. This quieted it down quite a bit but can still hear it. Also applied a bit of Silicone Spray around the cluster where it contacts the dash hoping to quiet down the dash (Verdict still out on this one) Total Time:1 Hour but if I were to do it again about 30 min. Thanks Guys cp -----Original Message----- From: Robert Myers [mailto:robert@s-cars.org] Sent: Wed 7/24/2002 9:00 AM To: Cody Payne Cc: Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions Yup. See below. These instructions are for an '89 200tq but the s-cars are very similar. Two screws under the bottom trim strip and pull the strip out to the left. (There is a pin at the right which must disengage before yanking.) Tilt wheel toward vertical and extend it as far from the dash as it will go. From there the procedure is basically identical to the description. BTW, I had mine out about three weeks ago. ('95 S6) At 10:53 AM 7/24/02, you wrote: >Hey Robert, > Specifically the instrument cluster...any instructions? > >Thx > >cp > >-----Original Message----- >From: Robert Myers [mailto:robert@s-cars.org] >Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:49 AM >To: Cody Payne >Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > >If you're wanting to remove the whole dash it is something of a major >PITA. If, however, by "dash" you mean "instrument cluster" then the job is >a piece of cake. > >At 10:20 AM 7/24/02, you wrote: > > >Len, > > Thanks for the information. BTW- What is the process and/or pain > > of removing the dashboard? Is it a PITA and not something for the "faint > > of heart"? > > > >Thx > > > >cp > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Ulrich L. McKenzie [mailto:mckenzie3249@rogers.com] > >Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 8:44 PM > >To: Cody Payne; s-car-list@audifans.com > >Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > > > > >Hi Cody, > > > >Discussed the LED problem with a colleague this AM. He solved his by > >removing and disassembling the dash, and applying a contact enhancer to all > >the exposed solder joints and connectors. I think it is called "Stabilant > >22 (Brent, can you confirm?) Not only solved the LED problem, but now says > >all displays are brighter. > > > >As for the rattles, every time I re&re my IC, I have different noises left > >over. The factory uses ties all over the place when they are originally > >assembled. Just try to make sure all loose cables are tied firmly in place, > >or padded in areas that might move around. > > > >HTH > > > >Len > >'94 UrS4 (Still waiting to hear from Hoppen....) > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > >[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Cody Payne > >Sent: 22 July 2002 12:09 > >To: s-car-list@audifans.com > >Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > > > > >Gents, > > Is there any cure to a noisy dash board? Seems to creak, and > > rattle a > >little bit when driving. Sort of annoying. Seems to come from right over > >the console. > > > >-2nd Question: > > My LCD display on the dash seems to be going out or is very > > sensitive to > >hot temperatures in the car. It pretty much doesn't display anything that > >is legible except in the AM I can make out "OK" I had a similar problem on > >my 1998.5 A4... > > > >Thoughts? > > > >Thx > > > >cp > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > >--- > >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/02 > >Bob >***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm >***** > > > >--- >Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.377 / Virus Database: 211 - Release Date: 7/15/02 Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 16:25:32 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions In-Reply-To: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50D9@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: <000101c23bec$b371de60$0d42fea9@newpc> Cody- Felt tape works better for quieting contact squeaks. Taka From bob.rossato at att.net Sun Aug 4 20:53:03 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (bob.rossato@att.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions Message-ID: <20020804195305.KIMH7441.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> > -4) I found out the bulbs fit pretty good however I would take a pair of = needle > nose pliers and crip down the Osram bulb metal contacts a little tigher s= o they > fit tighter in the connectors. I had noticed this as well when I did mine. I had ordered them from The Pa= rts Connection but I'm sure they were the same as you got. As I hadn't ord= ered enough, I went to the local dealer and got the OEM bulbs, p/n 893 919 = 040A. These fit perfectly. Both are made by Osram and the dealer price wa= s around $2.5 each as I recall. Both bulbs have a green base but the Audi = ones have a taller, more or less square shape to them, while the aftermarke= t ones have a short hex shaped base. Looking at them again the other day I= noticed the little plastic tab on the base that preloads the base is a lit= tle larger on the tall square base ones. It looks like the shorter hex bas= ed ones that everybody else sells are for different areas of the IC. If you're picky and don't want to fuss around with crimping the contacts to= get a good fit, get the bulbs at the dealer. The price difference is a pi= ss hole in a snowbank, all things considered. Bob From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Sun Aug 4 17:31:43 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF16@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Looking for some list wisdom and feedback on clamp types and sizes to secure Samco hoses. What's best, T-Bolt or the new Constant-Torque?. T-Bolt are traditionally the clamp of choice for silicon hoses, large band and good looking clamp. New on the market are these Constant-Torque clamps (I don't know the band width), any BTDT? Or technical feedback. The constant-Torque peeked my interest, "Revolutionary clamp that reacts to changes in hose systems by increasing or decreasing diameter as system expands or contracts." Maybe this is just overkill... The following two links describe the Constant-Torque and T-Bolt: http://www.breezeclamps.com/cnstpage.html http://www.breezeclamps.com/tbltpage.html Clamp Sizes: Can anyone confirm clamp sizes needed for a full Samco kit? (6 clamps needed) The following are stock hose clamp sizes OD given to me by Bill Mahoney (thanks Bill !): Lower crossover drivers side 3 ?" & 2 7/8" OD Upper "Y" hose to IM 3 ?" & 2 7/8" & 1 1/8" OD Turbo to crossover to by pass "Y" 3 1/8" & 2 ?" & 1 3/8" NOTE from Bill: I believe the Samco's could have maybe ?" extra OD as they are thicker. I don't believe that it will be enough to make a difference in the clamp size. All the clamps I received from ECS came with lock nuts except for the smaller 1 3/8" and 1 1/8" sizes, which came with tightening screws. Cheers, /James. P.S. The Parts System carries the full line of Breeze clamps at reasonable prices: http://www.partssystems.com/shop/products.html?terms=Breeze From vfugman at globaldialog.com Sun Aug 4 16:58:43 2002 From: vfugman at globaldialog.com (Varon H. Fugman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 In-Reply-To: <005f01c23aae$227c7ee0$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> Message-ID: BLAUfergn?gen used to keep them in stock. Might be worth a call and see if they still have any of the non-CD version around... http://www.audiquattroparts.com/ (920)758-3232 -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of dkpriebe Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 12:25 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but all indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available on CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions on who may still have one? Dave Priebe Kenmore, WA 91 200tqa 158k his 95.5 S6 100k hers _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 19:17:09 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Modified Air/Fuel Meters- worth it? Message-ID: <000b01c23c04$ad25b320$0d42fea9@newpc> I saw this page from Rennlist and was wondering if anyone has used something similar and if it is worth it. Sounds like it, but I'm wondering if I can get it done for less money locally. Igor, Bob P.? http://gadgetseller.com/gauges/ I already have the gauge so it wouldn't be a big deal to ship it to these guys for modification, but if it's a really simple mod, I'd rather have it done locally. Taka From carreragt at rennlist.com Sun Aug 4 19:29:57 2002 From: carreragt at rennlist.com (Thompson Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fans run on HIGH after vehicle is shut off In-Reply-To: <20020804162108.7343C348@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: 1993 S4 99,000 miles (yes, just turned today) Just took an afternoon jaunt down to Ben & Jerry's factory for a Sunday ice cream/tour with the wife and daughter. A/C on the whole trip (40 minute drive) I noticed that the fans stayed on high speed after I shut off the engine. Hmmm, ok this is the first I've heard this... Normally when I've got the A/C on and shut off the engine - that fans shut off as well. They should go to single speed or a single fan should stay on right? About an hour and half later, after two cones and a tour - yup the fans were both struggling to stay on high speed. As I turned the key over I knew the outcome - click, click... "Hey girls, uhhhhh we've got to bump start Rory." Birkenstocks sinched down I put all I could into the B piller and started to back it up on the Vermont B&J gravel parking lot. Worked great until we needed that extra 6ft to make it back enough to clear a Lincoln (damn land yacht!). So, two guys came to our rescue and gave us the added umph to push it backwards uphill. They looked at me like "why is he trying to bump start that big car thing"? Little do they know about German 5spds. Great spot for the battery to go flat. Anywho, all I did was bump start it in second gear - downhill, then on to RT100 back home. Anyway, at least the Ice cream was great. This is the absolute first time our trusty //S4 has acted up. Being Bently'less what temp sensor, where (or what) has caused this? Should it be the radiator fan A/C temp sensor? Any BTDTs with this one? I checked the voltage right after the trip and I'm at 12.78v with no load. Regards, Thompson 1993 //S4 Rory der RENNWGN 1984 urquattro, #919 1976 Porsche Carrera 3.0 targa #202 http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen // From paulunm at msn.com Sun Aug 4 23:38:18 2002 From: paulunm at msn.com (Paul Friedenberg) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Lehmann Stage 3 and Oil cooler update Message-ID: Finally got my ECU porblem sorted out, many thanks to Keith Anderson who sent me a loaner ECU to use. As it turns out, the loaner ecu had a TAP chip in it, which made an interesting comparison with the Lehmann stage 3 with 3 bar. I had the RS2 turbo and manifold installed with the TAP in place. The car felt "wierd" below 4.5k. Very little midrange torque, when the boost finally kicked in, it was quite a bit faster than stock. Last I checked, TAP did not offer software upgrades for use with bigger turbos. Then, installed the stage 3 ecu, what a HUGE difference. Much more midrange and a lot more high rpm power. The exhuast (stromung) sounds terrific (although too quiet for my tastes) at high rpms and high boost. With the oil cooler I had installed (an unused unit from a Chargecooler made originally for supercharged Mustangs) I NEVER see temps even close to 130. Hangs around the second tick mark, although cruising at 100+ mph with outside temp of 95, it does climb a bit. I believe my oil capacity increased about .5 quarts. An upgrade many of you in hot areas should consider. I bought the cooler for $50, and the lines were made for about $40. You could spend more, but no reason to. The oil cooler is mounted just behind the pass side small vent, right about where a foglight might be mounted in newer audis. The airflow to this location could not be better. Now its time for Samcos! _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From paulunm at msn.com Sun Aug 4 23:42:07 2002 From: paulunm at msn.com (Paul Friedenberg) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Modified Air/Fuel Meters- worth it? Message-ID: From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 19:46:31 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fans run on HIGH after vehicle is shut off In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c23c08$c7901a30$0d42fea9@newpc> Definitely sounds like you should check your radiator fan temp sensor- I had this symptom on my old 5ktq, did the exact same thing. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Thompson Smith Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:30 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Fans run on HIGH after vehicle is shut off 1993 S4 99,000 miles (yes, just turned today) Just took an afternoon jaunt down to Ben & Jerry's factory for a Sunday ice cream/tour with the wife and daughter. A/C on the whole trip (40 minute drive) I noticed that the fans stayed on high speed after I shut off the engine. Hmmm, ok this is the first I've heard this... Normally when I've got the A/C on and shut off the engine - that fans shut off as well. They should go to single speed or a single fan should stay on right? About an hour and half later, after two cones and a tour - yup the fans were both struggling to stay on high speed. As I turned the key over I knew the outcome - click, click... "Hey girls, uhhhhh we've got to bump start Rory." Birkenstocks sinched down I put all I could into the B piller and started to back it up on the Vermont B&J gravel parking lot. Worked great until we needed that extra 6ft to make it back enough to clear a Lincoln (damn land yacht!). So, two guys came to our rescue and gave us the added umph to push it backwards uphill. They looked at me like "why is he trying to bump start that big car thing"? Little do they know about German 5spds. Great spot for the battery to go flat. Anywho, all I did was bump start it in second gear - downhill, then on to RT100 back home. Anyway, at least the Ice cream was great. This is the absolute first time our trusty //S4 has acted up. Being Bently'less what temp sensor, where (or what) has caused this? Should it be the radiator fan A/C temp sensor? Any BTDTs with this one? I checked the voltage right after the trip and I'm at 12.78v with no load. Regards, Thompson 1993 //S4 Rory der RENNWGN 1984 urquattro, #919 1976 Porsche Carrera 3.0 targa #202 http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen // _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 19:53:31 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Modified Air/Fuel Meters- worth it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000e01c23c09$c1bb3940$0d42fea9@newpc> Paul, When I go to a big turbo, I'm getting an EGT gauge as well, but for the time being, I already have the A/F meter and would like to know if this modification is worthwhile. A/F meters when not used in conjunction w/ wideband O2 sensors aren't really that informative, but if this mod does what it claims, I should see in finer resolution what the engine is doing at full throttle, which is where I'm most concerned anyway. I'd like a warning buzzer and light when it goes lean, but that's asking a bit much- having it go off only when the car is at WOT and lean would require some serious circuit design that I'm completely incapable of. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Paul Friedenberg [mailto:paulunm@msn.com] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:42 PM To: t44tq@mindspring.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Cc: speedlabb@aol.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Modified Air/Fuel Meters- worth it? From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 19:59:03 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions In-Reply-To: <20020804195305.KIMH7441.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <000f01c23c0a$87ea6460$0d42fea9@newpc> Bob- Sounds like a running change in parts, because I bought the exact same part number recently and they are the short, hex shaped base green plastic bulbs, while the ones I pulled out of my cluster are the taller square shaped base that you describe. Very interesting. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of bob.rossato@att.net Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:53 PM To: Cody Payne Cc: Robert Myers; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > -4) I found out the bulbs fit pretty good however I would take a pair > of needle nose pliers and crip down the Osram bulb metal contacts a > little tigher so they fit tighter in the connectors. I had noticed this as well when I did mine. I had ordered them from The Parts Connection but I'm sure they were the same as you got. As I hadn't ordered enough, I went to the local dealer and got the OEM bulbs, p/n 893 919 040A. These fit perfectly. Both are made by Osram and the dealer price was around $2.5 each as I recall. Both bulbs have a green base but the Audi ones have a taller, more or less square shape to them, while the aftermarket ones have a short hex shaped base. Looking at them again the other day I noticed the little plastic tab on the base that preloads the base is a little larger on the tall square base ones. It looks like the shorter hex based ones that everybody else sells are for different areas of the IC. If you're picky and don't want to fuss around with crimping the contacts to get a good fit, get the bulbs at the dealer. The price difference is a piss hole in a snowbank, all things considered. Bob _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Rfeagleye at aol.com Sun Aug 4 20:19:44 2002 From: Rfeagleye at aol.com (Rfeagleye@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] A good weekend with a couple of UrS4 guys... Message-ID: <1ab.6360977.2a7f1090@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I was in Columbus this weekend, and had the chance to get together with a couple of list members and check out there cars. Saturday I visited Charlie Smith and saw his 1995 S6. I went there to pick up some near new Dunlop SP 8000 tires in the stock 16" size for my car that he didn't need and was really great to offer them to me at an awesome price! Charlie sure knows his stuff, and in the hour or so I spent there I learned a lot about the "little things" in my 1992. He also took me for a ride in his car...WOW, the car pulls like crazy! He has an IA chip and a few other things and boy does the car run strong. It looks great with the Avus 17x8 wheels too! I then had the tires installed at Discount Tire and the car drives much better! The snow tires on the car just didn't cut it in the 100 degree heat! Thanks again Charlie! Today I had the chance to meet Dave Burig and checked out his 1993 S4. Dave took a little time out from getting ready for his son's 5th Birthday Party to meet with me. After looking at and comparing stuff on our cars, we traded keys and went for a fun little low speed drive around Columbus (well, maybe not actually low speed...) His car is nice, I kind of wish I had the carbon fiber in the 1992 :( I also discovered something about my car after riding behind it in Dave's 1993...my car SMOKES a bit under full throttle. I don't notice it when I am driving, but when Dave was in my car I saw puffs of dark smoke each time we pulled hard on the straight roads. The car drives fine, no hesitation, no sputtering, and gets full boost, anyone have any ideas on what it could be? I have been on it hard, but not as hard as today... Good thing I am taking it in for a new owner "check up" on Tuesday! All in all a great weekend of Audi fun! From fjamoroso at webtv.net Sun Aug 4 18:55:44 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) In-Reply-To: "James Murray (LMC)" 's message of Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:31:43 -0400 Message-ID: <10491-3D4DBF00-702@storefull-2195.public.lawson.webtv.net> Yo James, I replaced all of my T-bolt units with the constant units about a year ago. They have worked flawlessly (of course so did the t-bolt units). Anyway, I liked the idea of the constant units. As well, they have narrower bands (stil wide by standard clamps specs) which provide superior "bite" as it pertains to Si hoses. Frank@s-cars.org From bob.rossato at att.net Sun Aug 4 21:01:54 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions In-Reply-To: <000f01c23c0a$87ea6460$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: My mistake. I got the descriptions backwards. I just looked at my spare bulbs bin and found several of the large square base green bulbs in there, and none of the hex shaped ones. So, the ones from the dealer are hex shaped, not square as I incorrectly stated before. And the hex ones also have the beefier pre-load tab, which makes sense. The original orange based 1.1w bulbs that were in my cluster were also hex. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of TM > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:59 PM > To: bob.rossato@att.net; 'Cody Payne' > Cc: 'Robert Myers'; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > > Bob- > Sounds like a running change in parts, because I bought the exact > same part number recently and they are the short, hex shaped base > green plastic bulbs, while the ones I pulled out of my cluster are > the taller square shaped base that you describe. > > Very interesting. > > Taka > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of bob.rossato@att.net > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:53 PM > To: Cody Payne > Cc: Robert Myers; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > > > > -4) I found out the bulbs fit pretty good however I would take a pair > > of needle nose pliers and crip down the Osram bulb metal contacts a > > little tigher so they fit tighter in the connectors. > > I had noticed this as well when I did mine. I had ordered them from The > Parts Connection but I'm sure they were the same as you got. As I > hadn't ordered enough, I went to the local dealer and got the OEM bulbs, > p/n 893 919 040A. These fit perfectly. Both are made by Osram and the > dealer price was around $2.5 each as I recall. Both bulbs have a green > base but the Audi ones have a taller, more or less square shape to them, > while the aftermarket ones have a short hex shaped base. Looking at > them again the other day I noticed the little plastic tab on the base > that preloads the base is a little larger on the tall square base ones. > It looks like the shorter hex based ones that everybody else sells are > for different areas of the IC. > > If you're picky and don't want to fuss around with crimping the contacts > to get a good fit, get the bulbs at the dealer. The price difference is > a piss hole in a snowbank, all things considered. > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From fjamoroso at webtv.net Sun Aug 4 19:02:25 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] MAF housings In-Reply-To: "TM" 's message of Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:27:19 -0400 Message-ID: <10496-3D4DC091-157@storefull-2195.public.lawson.webtv.net> Yo gotta defer to Mike "MAF MAN" Pederson on this one. Frank@s-cars.org From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Sun Aug 4 21:03:27 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF19@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Cool, thanks for the feedback Frank! They look pretty darn neat. Still need to figure out the right clamp sizes? Do you agree with Bill's OD sizes? /Jamu. -----Original Message----- From: fjamoroso@webtv.net [SMTP:fjamoroso@webtv.net] Sent: August 4, 2002 7:56 PM To: James.Murray@ericsson.ca Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) Yo James, I replaced all of my T-bolt units with the constant units about a year ago. They have worked flawlessly (of course so did the t-bolt units). Anyway, I liked the idea of the constant units. As well, they have narrower bands (stil wide by standard clamps specs) which provide superior "bite" as it pertains to Si hoses. Frank@s-cars.org From fjamoroso at webtv.net Sun Aug 4 19:09:47 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) In-Reply-To: "James Murray (LMC)" 's message of Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:03:27 -0400 Message-ID: <10493-3D4DC24B-490@storefull-2195.public.lawson.webtv.net> Let me check part numbers to see if I can get you sizes. Frank@s-cars.org From trgreen at comcast.net Sun Aug 4 21:42:18 2002 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Thomas Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'm all for the stock solution for this bose/ipod thing. See or thereabouts for one rf patch. Or for a direct cassette input patch. It's included with an old style refurb ipod. Theis headphone jack to cassette patch is the Coby ipod/mp3 Audio Car Adapter model E/COBCA 747. Also see the listing of mp3 players and cool accessories probably some alcantara cases in there. Ask teenagers to write the BTDT on this cause they done it already. (no connection, just a MAC and Audi nut-not an ipod nut) Tom '95 S-6 02 G4/800x2 > From: "Brian @ TouchTech Systems" > Date: Fri, 02 Aug 2002 09:48:37 -0700 > To: Airbil@aol.com, S-Cars List > Subject: Re: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? > > > > > > Besides being an Audi Enthusiast, I'm also an > Apple Authorized Value Added Reseller! > > >> From: Airbil@aol.com >> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:19:43 EDT >> To: s-car-list@audifans.com >> Subject: [s-cars] New urS Cabin Accessory? >> >> -- >> >> Seemingly on a path of go fast techno junkie I am, so how about inventing >> something for urS cars that would make them so cool, so advanced, way out >> there? Something so unbelievably remarkable, it is sure to bring ooooo's and >> ahhh's from all who see it? Something beyond alcantara, recaro's and as >> necessary as the V1. An accessory not yet standard or even offered as an >> option on the finest Mercedes, Ferrari, Porsche, or any other car in the >> world? >> How about making our three useless console sluggs into a flip up entryway >> that opens to a soft blue alcantara lined semi secret compartment containing >> a juke box that holds your ENTIRE music library? That's right "Jim" >> (generically speaking and apologies to all list Jim's out there,) I'm talking >> mp3 player. But not just any mp3 player, but "the" mp3player- an Ipod. >> Check out this video: >> http://www.apple.com/hardware/video/ipod_intro_240.html >> 2,000 songs, 4 inches high x 2.4 w x 3/4" deep. Lists all your songs. >> Scroll with your thumb and bring up songs by title, artist or playlist. ee >> zzz! >> This could be a Hapersize (tm) music system. How bout this? >> http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-A >> PPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/172/wo/TNGRs18V7XBr42kmH/1.3.0.3.34.1 >> What's needed to do this? >> 1.) Windows version due out in 4 weeks. Unless yu're Mac already. >> 2.) How to neatly tap into the cars power supply. >> 3.) FM transmitter I believe part of the $50 Dr Bott pkg. OR >> 4.) Hard wire into the bose would be real nice, but is it possible? >> 5.) Home Depot solution for making the storage box and the balls to cut out >> the two plastic pillars between the sluggs. >> 6.) A lightly spring loaded take up reel to tension the wires when the unit >> is pulled our. >> And yes I know mp3 sucks, and bose sucks say many, but to my sucky ears they >> sound fine. And this ease of use and tactile fun are hard to beat. Let your >> date play DJ while enjoying the comfort and speed of quattro turbo madness :) >> Forget GP's. Apple dont discount for nobody:( >> Whattya think? >> Bill m - I'll write the BTDT if someone can tell answer no.'s 2 and 4 above. >> >> >> BTW -I know you geezers out there are sayin whaaa? huhhh? But as my college >> age kids have taught me mp3 is very cool. You'll see sooner or later, so wh >> not sooner. >> Oh yeah and downside is you gal's gonna want one too. > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From trgreen at comcast.net Sun Aug 4 21:50:43 2002 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Thomas Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: on 8/4/02 4:58 PM, Varon H. Fugman at vfugman@globaldialog.com wrote: > BLAUfergn?gen used to keep them in stock. Might be worth a call and see if > they still have any of the non-CD version around... > http://www.audiquattroparts.com/ > (920)758-3232 > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of dkpriebe > Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 12:25 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 > > > I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked Amazon, > Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but all > indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available on > CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions on who may > still have one? > > Dave Priebe > Kenmore, WA > 91 200tqa 158k his > 95.5 S6 100k hers > > has both the CD and paper listed, but I don't think they have updated the catalog to reflect reality. If you look closely at the photo it is a CD in both listings. I'd sure call first, because its too cheap. Tom '95 S-6 > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Aug 4 22:31:59 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c23c1f$e4f13160$0d42fea9@newpc> Weird- All of my bulbs that I replaced were the square type, white base, that were originally in the cluster, that is. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Bob Rossato [mailto:bob.rossato@att.net] Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:02 PM To: TM Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions My mistake. I got the descriptions backwards. I just looked at my spare bulbs bin and found several of the large square base green bulbs in there, and none of the hex shaped ones. So, the ones from the dealer are hex shaped, not square as I incorrectly stated before. And the hex ones also have the beefier pre-load tab, which makes sense. The original orange based 1.1w bulbs that were in my cluster were also hex. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of TM > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 6:59 PM > To: bob.rossato@att.net; 'Cody Payne' > Cc: 'Robert Myers'; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > > Bob- > Sounds like a running change in parts, because I bought the exact same > part number recently and they are the short, hex shaped base green > plastic bulbs, while the ones I pulled out of my cluster are the > taller square shaped base that you describe. > > Very interesting. > > Taka > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of > bob.rossato@att.net > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 3:53 PM > To: Cody Payne > Cc: Robert Myers; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Noisy Dashboard 1992 S4 and LCD Questions > > > > > -4) I found out the bulbs fit pretty good however I would take a > > pair of needle nose pliers and crip down the Osram bulb metal > > contacts a little tigher so they fit tighter in the connectors. > > I had noticed this as well when I did mine. I had ordered them from > The Parts Connection but I'm sure they were the same as you got. As I > hadn't ordered enough, I went to the local dealer and got the OEM > bulbs, p/n 893 919 040A. These fit perfectly. Both are made by Osram > and the dealer price was around $2.5 each as I recall. Both bulbs > have a green base but the Audi ones have a taller, more or less square > shape to them, while the aftermarket ones have a short hex shaped > base. Looking at them again the other day I noticed the little > plastic tab on the base that preloads the base is a little larger on > the tall square base ones. It looks like the shorter hex based ones > that everybody else sells are for different areas of the IC. > > If you're picky and don't want to fuss around with crimping the > contacts to get a good fit, get the bulbs at the dealer. The price > difference is a piss hole in a snowbank, all things considered. > > Bob > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From skippertgore at hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 03:08:57 2002 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players Message-ID: Kirby- Those are great ideas. Believe FCC doesn't allow anything more than 1 watt, or so I remember from my college radio days. But, how do the drive-in movie theaters get away with it? I'm referring to those that offer the soundtrack of the movie if you tune to a certain frequency on your car stereo. 1 watt would be more than sufficient for the range we're talking about. Now that I think about it, some manufacturers offer wireless modulators that must put out some sort of in-car only signal... As far as the FM freq, I believe most manufacturers of these modulators give you only 1 or 2 to choose from. Is there a way to change that? Hack in somehow? These all sound like a good ideas. But going back to Thompson's post with the pic of the back of his radio.... http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen/gammaradio.jpg I think you might be able to use the 2 inputs in the changer harness labeled " Line In L & R" should be where the changers' sound input comes in. Tap into those wires, and you should be set. Note again that I am only guessing that this is where the signal comes in from the changer. Anyone have some BTDT on the Bose units? Linus, any more ideas? I'm thinking that if those are the proper input wires, all you'd need now is some sort of line-level converted signal from the mp3/iPod player, and you'd be good to go. Sorry if some of this is jumbled. It's a cool idea, and my mind is going faster than I can type. -Matt, CT >From: Kirby Smith >Reply-To: kirby.a.smith@verizon.net >To: Matt Russell >CC: s-car-list@audifans.com, vfugman@globaldialog.com, > uberseehandel@yahoo.com >Subject: Re: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players >Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 09:56:42 -0400 > >Is the FM frequency adjustable. One could probably capacitively couple >it to either window's antenna at some frequency not used locally. FM >works on a limiting principle, and once Station 1 is several dB above >Station 2, at the antenna, it fully suppresses the other station. With >this approach there would not need to be a lot of messing around with >the back of the radio. However, vehicles close to you might pick up >what you are playing. I don't remember what range one can transmit on >this band without FCC approval. It is short, but I don't think it is >zero. Capacitively coupling to the antenna would, I think, provide >adequate signal without much emission. > >kirby > _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Mon Aug 5 00:21:00 2002 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players References: Message-ID: <3D4DEF1C.D48ADC33@verizon.net> A watt should be good for a 100m, at least. No way to tell from here how difficult changing the frequency might be. kirby Matt Russell wrote: > > Kirby- > Those are great ideas. > Believe FCC doesn't allow anything more than 1 watt, or so I remember from > my college radio days. But, how do the drive-in movie theaters get away > with it? I'm referring to those that offer the soundtrack of the movie if > you tune to a certain frequency on your car stereo. 1 watt would be more > than sufficient for the range we're talking about. Now that I think about > it, some manufacturers offer wireless modulators that must put out some sort > of in-car only signal... > > As far as the FM freq, I believe most manufacturers of these modulators give > you only 1 or 2 to choose from. Is there a way to change that? Hack in > somehow? > > These all sound like a good ideas. But going back to Thompson's post with > the pic of the back of his radio.... > > http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen/gammaradio.jpg > > I think you might be able to use the 2 inputs in the changer harness labeled > " Line In L & R" should be where the changers' sound input comes in. Tap > into those wires, and you should be set. > > Note again that I am only guessing that this is where the signal comes in > from the changer. > Anyone have some BTDT on the Bose units? > > Linus, any more ideas? I'm thinking that if those are the proper input > wires, all you'd need now is some sort of line-level converted signal from > the mp3/iPod player, and you'd be good to go. Sorry if some of this is > jumbled. It's a cool idea, and my mind is going faster than I can type. > > -Matt, CT > > >From: Kirby Smith > >Reply-To: kirby.a.smith@verizon.net > >To: Matt Russell > >CC: s-car-list@audifans.com, vfugman@globaldialog.com, > > uberseehandel@yahoo.com > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players > >Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 09:56:42 -0400 > > > >Is the FM frequency adjustable. One could probably capacitively couple > >it to either window's antenna at some frequency not used locally. FM > >works on a limiting principle, and once Station 1 is several dB above > >Station 2, at the antenna, it fully suppresses the other station. With > >this approach there would not need to be a lot of messing around with > >the back of the radio. However, vehicles close to you might pick up > >what you are playing. I don't remember what range one can transmit on > >this band without FCC approval. It is short, but I don't think it is > >zero. Capacitively coupling to the antenna would, I think, provide > >adequate signal without much emission. > > > >kirby > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com From paulunm at msn.com Mon Aug 5 06:44:07 2002 From: paulunm at msn.com (Paul Friedenberg) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] A good weekend with a couple of UrS4 guys... Message-ID: If its black and not blue, its just the car running rich. I don't know what the altitude in Columbus is (fairly low I assume) but here at over 5,000 feet, all cars like to run rich. Especially at full throttle. >From: Rfeagleye@aol.com >To: s-car-list@audifans.com >Subject: [s-cars] A good weekend with a couple of UrS4 guys... >Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:19:44 EDT > >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >I was in Columbus this weekend, and had the chance to get together with a >couple of list members and check out there cars. > >Saturday I visited Charlie Smith and saw his 1995 S6. I went there to pick >up >some near new Dunlop SP 8000 tires in the stock 16" size for my car that he >didn't need and was really great to offer them to me at an awesome price! >Charlie sure knows his stuff, and in the hour or so I spent there I learned >a >lot about the "little things" in my 1992. > >He also took me for a ride in his car...WOW, the car pulls like crazy! He >has >an IA chip and a few other things and boy does the car run strong. It looks >great with the Avus 17x8 wheels too! > >I then had the tires installed at Discount Tire and the car drives much >better! The snow tires on the car just didn't cut it in the 100 degree >heat! >Thanks again Charlie! > >Today I had the chance to meet Dave Burig and checked out his 1993 S4. Dave >took a little time out from getting ready for his son's 5th Birthday Party >to >meet with me. After looking at and comparing stuff on our cars, we traded >keys and went for a fun little low speed drive around Columbus (well, maybe >not actually low speed...) > >His car is nice, I kind of wish I had the carbon fiber in the 1992 :( > >I also discovered something about my car after riding behind it in Dave's >1993...my car SMOKES a bit under full throttle. I don't notice it when I am >driving, but when Dave was in my car I saw puffs of dark smoke each time we >pulled hard on the straight roads. The car drives fine, no hesitation, no >sputtering, and gets full boost, anyone have any ideas on what it could be? >I >have been on it hard, but not as hard as today... > >Good thing I am taking it in for a new owner "check up" on Tuesday! > >All in all a great weekend of Audi fun! > > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com From igor at s-cars.org Mon Aug 5 11:24:16 2002 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) References: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF16@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Message-ID: <3D4E8A8F.9ABCE139@s-cars.org> > Clamp Sizes: Can anyone confirm clamp sizes needed for a full Samco kit? (6 > clamps needed) > Lower crossover drivers side 3 ?" & 2 7/8" OD > Upper "Y" hose to IM 3 ?" & 2 7/8" & 1 1/8" OD > Turbo to crossover to by pass "Y" 3 1/8" & 2 ?" & 1 3/8" Fellas, does someone have the proper METRIC sizes, stamped on the OEM clamps? I am about to place an order with McMaster and figured I's slap on o few clamps to save on shipping. Thhanks for the most timely reminding to get the clamps, James. As for the source, for years for my turbo hoses I used the SS steel constant torque rolled or lined clamps from McMaster-Carr. They are called "Type 316 Stainless Steel Smooth-Band Worm-Drive Hose Clamps" and exist in a variety of sizes. Thery are a bit more expensive but at least there's no minimum quantity to buy. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Mon Aug 5 11:45:08 2002 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) In-Reply-To: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF16@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> from "James Murray (LMC)" at Aug 04, 2002 04:31:43 PM Message-ID: <200208051445.g75Ej8J18713@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier, "James Murray (LMC)" wrote: > > Looking for some list wisdom and feedback on clamp types and sizes to secure > Samco hoses. > > What's best, T-Bolt or the new Constant-Torque?. T-Bolt are traditionally > the clamp of choice for silicon hoses, large band and good looking clamp. > New on the market are these Constant-Torque clamps (I don't know the band > width), any BTDT? Or technical feedback. The constant-Torque peeked my > interest, "Revolutionary clamp that reacts to changes in hose systems by > increasing or decreasing diameter as system expands or contracts." Maybe > this is just overkill... > From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Mon Aug 5 12:13:50 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF2C@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Hey Charlie, I'm not so sure of that... see the posting by Frank, he switched from T-Bolt to C-T a year ago and seems very happy, but as he said the T-bolt worked well too. The Torque rating is fairly high on the large clamps. /J. -----Original Message----- From: Charlie Smith [SMTP:charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org] Sent: August 5, 2002 10:45 AM To: James.Murray@ericsson.ca Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com; charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org Subject: Re: [s-cars] Clamps sizes and (T-Bolt vs Constant-Torque) Earlier, "James Murray (LMC)" wrote: > > Looking for some list wisdom and feedback on clamp types and sizes to secure > Samco hoses. > > What's best, T-Bolt or the new Constant-Torque?. T-Bolt are traditionally > the clamp of choice for silicon hoses, large band and good looking clamp. > New on the market are these Constant-Torque clamps (I don't know the band > width), any BTDT? Or technical feedback. The constant-Torque peeked my > interest, "Revolutionary clamp that reacts to changes in hose systems by > increasing or decreasing diameter as system expands or contracts." Maybe > this is just overkill... > From looking at the Constant-Torque links here, it is clear that the C-T clamps are a worm screw type clamp, with crosswise slots cut in the clamp band. I've had too many screw type clamps bend or strip out when really tightened with a wrench. Are these C-T clamps really up to the job? One advantage of the C-T clamps is that one clamp covers a larger range of diameters. A disadvantage is that the sharp end of the clamp band will stick out past the screw. A T-Bolt clamp won't do that. - Charlie From pramtt at pacbell.net Mon Aug 5 10:51:10 2002 From: pramtt at pacbell.net (Pram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players In-Reply-To: <20020803172205.29355.qmail@web10905.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <8B328D60-A893-11D6-A18C-0003937177F0@pacbell.net> On Saturday, August 3, 2002, at 10:22 AM, jeff posto wrote: > Most MP3 rippers, I believe, offer higher bit rate > settings. I use Sound Forge and set to 256K.. sure I > chew up disk space, but balance that with the largest > drive you can afford. > I find at the higher bit rates, in cruising car spees > with road noise, I cannot tell the diff. Jeff, I concur with your observation On my Ipod, I used the Ipod maximum 192kbps rate at the expense of memory. When I use the Ipod in quieter environment I notice the difference between 192, 128 or 64 kbps but in the noisier car environment it would be less noticeable. Pram 92S4 From pramtt at pacbell.net Mon Aug 5 10:55:59 2002 From: pramtt at pacbell.net (Pram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Neat feature of the Ipod Message-ID: <378047BA-A894-11D6-A18C-0003937177F0@pacbell.net> Guys: One thing I would like to add wrt a neat feature of the Ipod. It come with quite a selection of preset equalization in digital mode which can help fine tune the music to your likings. I like and use this feature a lot with my Ipod (especially in the car). Pram 92S4 From Thomas.Pollock at hp.com Mon Aug 5 14:08:12 2002 From: Thomas.Pollock at hp.com (Pollock, Thomas) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I have brakes !!! Message-ID: <9C422444DE99BC46B3AD3C6EAFC9711B01032976@tayexc13.americas.cpqcorp.net> Hey guys, I couldn't wait till the big brake upgrade I have planned for spring so I threw a set of front pads in over the weekend. Guess what ? My pedal now grabs right at the top !!! Really weird. I've driven quite a few stockers and have heard through this list that it just isn't possible. It's a little spongier and I hope it will still firm up a bit but, gone is the feeling that the pedal is going all the way to the floor before anything starts grabbing... cool. > Tom Pollock > Compaq Computer Corporation > AlphaServer Product Development > *Tel (508)467-4441 > * thomas.pollock@compaq.com > > > From charlie at istari.com Mon Aug 5 12:21:01 2002 From: charlie at istari.com (Charles Baer) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] In Car MP3 Players Message-ID: <3D4EB3FD.561CB1E6@istari.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Matt Russell [mailto:skippertgore@hotmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, August 04, 2002 8:09 PM ...snip... > These all sound like a good ideas. But going back to > Thompson's post with > the pic of the back of his radio.... > > http://members.rennlist.com/rennwagen/gammaradio.jpg > > I think you might be able to use the 2 inputs in the changer > harness labeled > " Line In L & R" should be where the changers' sound input > comes in. Tap > into those wires, and you should be set. > > Note again that I am only guessing that this is where the > signal comes in > from the changer. > Anyone have some BTDT on the Bose units? The inputs are empty on mine, does anybody know how to activate the CD analog input w/o having a changer plugged into that socket ? I had mine out a year ago, made these conclusions about the pins: CD SDA - CD serial data ( track #, status ) CD SCL - CD serial clock +12V - battery +V -/ -+ - switched +V CD gnd - CD audio ground NF- - negative frame ground (for power) L,R - left and right pre-amp level input I couldn't figure out how to enable the input, assumed that not having a CD changer connected to the data circuit kept the input section disabled. Went with the RF modulator that came w/ the Sony changer I pulled from my V8. The "What are these?" section in the photo is for the inst cluster display. Charlie From dburig at igsenergy.com Mon Aug 5 14:21:39 2002 From: dburig at igsenergy.com (Dave Burig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] manifold & chip revelation (I'm a dumb-ass) Message-ID: OK, thought I knew a little about my car. Rob Eagleye visited my home with his 92 S4, and we did the swap and drive thing. He said he thought mine pulled stronger than his, but I figured it might be due to the more optimal gear ratios of my 6-speed. Mine also has a much more pronounced turbo whine. Here's the dumb-ass part: Rob, a week-long UrS4 owner, (but well versed neu, modified S4 owner as well)looks under my hood and points out that my exhaust manifold is not stock. "Looks like Charlie Smith's" sez Rob. This starts me wondering. Lift up passenger carpeting, lo and behold, it's been cut. Start putting two and two together, plus the fact that I pulled in excess of 140per up a big hill a couple of years ago...no limiter...periodically blow hoses...this thing's been chipped! (to the previous owner's credit, he did a REALLY nice job of tucking the carpet back together, so good in fact that I didn't notice it in the 4 FREAKING YEARS that I've owned the thing, in which time I've vacuumed the carpet AT LEAST twice.)DUMB-ASS! Anyhow, I just found a mark on the underside of the manifold that starts L03111, and I have not yet taken up the carpet, and would prefer not to if there is a definitive way that I can figure out what I have. Any help out there? Any good guesses? Any wisecracks? (Paulie) TIA, Dave "hey wow, this thing drives all four wheels" Burig From lee at wheelman.com Mon Aug 5 14:39:40 2002 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] manifold & chip revelation (I'm a dumb-ass) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Dave writes: > 4 FREAKING YEARS...I've owned the thing > I've vacuumed the carpet AT LEAST twice Hopefully that "at least twice" is more like 24 times, or we're going to have a little talk with you about good car maintenance :) Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From t44tq at mindspring.com Mon Aug 5 15:57:31 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:30 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink Message-ID: <001301c23cb1$f4124070$0d42fea9@newpc> Some jerk decided to exhibit extraordinarily poor driving skills today by backing into my car in my parking lot, damaging the headlight, fender, grille and bumper. Looks like I'll be paying a visit to the body shop soon. I sure hope this won't preclude me from going to Summit Point in a couple weeks. Taka thinking about emptying the fridge of beer and then going on to some vodka in the freezer From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Mon Aug 5 14:16:41 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A732B@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Ouch..sorry to hear that...let me know if you need some beer ;-) http://www.worldsbeer.com/b3/images/P1010040.JPG Just brewed on Sunday....10% ABW Trappist Tripel..yummy -----Original Message----- From: TM [mailto:t44tq@mindspring.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 12:58 PM To: S-Car-List Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink Some jerk decided to exhibit extraordinarily poor driving skills today by backing into my car in my parking lot, damaging the headlight, fender, grille and bumper. Looks like I'll be paying a visit to the body shop soon. I sure hope this won't preclude me from going to Summit Point in a couple weeks. Taka thinking about emptying the fridge of beer and then going on to some vodka in the freezer _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Mark.Pollan at wcom.com Mon Aug 5 16:19:36 2002 From: Mark.Pollan at wcom.com (Mark Pollan) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink In-Reply-To: <001301c23cb1$f4124070$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: <003801c23cb5$0a109040$fdf029a6@PCY19358A.wcomnet.com> Sorry to hear about it. Pretty amazing that one can get a ticket for going 70 in a 55 in complete control of a car capable of 150 while some buffoon can perpetrate a transgression of this nature. I shudder to think just how much vodka I would drink if I came upon such an exhibition bestowed upon my car. Since I do park in a public parking lot, I have often run through upgrade scenarios should such misfortune strike, so... Regards, Mark >Some jerk decided to exhibit extraordinarily poor driving skills >today by backing into my car in my parking lot, damaging the headlight, >fender, grille and bumper. From tedebearp at yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 13:34:01 2002 From: tedebearp at yahoo.com (Theodore Chen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] A good weekend with a couple of UrS4 guys... In-Reply-To: <1ab.6360977.2a7f1090@aol.com> Message-ID: <20020805193401.17366.qmail@web14201.mail.yahoo.com> --- Rfeagleye@aol.com wrote: > > I also discovered something about my car after riding behind it in Dave's > 1993...my car SMOKES a bit under full throttle. I don't notice it when I am > driving, but when Dave was in my car I saw puffs of dark smoke each time we > pulled hard on the straight roads. The car drives fine, no hesitation, no > sputtering, and gets full boost, anyone have any ideas on what it could be? I > have been on it hard, but not as hard as today... that's normal for most cars. when you go to WOT, the computer goes fat on the fuel and the mixture goes rich. -teddy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Mon Aug 5 17:49:05 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF42@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Anyone interested in H&R Springs? Now that I've ordered my Shocks through Dan Simoes recent GP (thanks Dan), I need Springs to complete my setup. I found the following deal on the net, excellent price ! $299 for H&R kit 29771. They do not have them in stock but said they could get them in a day or so. They will not lower the price more, but said if we order a few sets we will save on freight. I'm placing my order this week, no fussing around. Let me know if you want in? http://www.carnutz.cc/shop_online/H&R%20Instock%20Blowout%20List.htm Paul K's review conviced me H&R is the way to go... Cheers, /James. P.S For those interested soely in Eibachs, I found the Pro-kit (1529.140) for $214 at another dealer. Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears , keeps the rears from being dropped too low). http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm (I don't know if they have them in stock, but Shox.com is back ordered until September !) From t44tq at mindspring.com Mon Aug 5 18:32:25 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink In-Reply-To: <003801c23cb5$0a109040$fdf029a6@PCY19358A.wcomnet.com> Message-ID: <001a01c23cc7$97b00950$0d42fea9@newpc> Thanks for the sympathy, Mark- I'm pissed, as you can expect. No idea who hit me, no note, nothing. Probably another incompetent idiot, considering my car is parked far and away from anything for a reason. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Mark Pollan Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 3:20 PM To: 'S-Car-List' Subject: RE: [s-cars] I need a drink Sorry to hear about it. Pretty amazing that one can get a ticket for going 70 in a 55 in complete control of a car capable of 150 while some buffoon can perpetrate a transgression of this nature. I shudder to think just how much vodka I would drink if I came upon such an exhibition bestowed upon my car. Since I do park in a public parking lot, I have often run through upgrade scenarios should such misfortune strike, so... Regards, Mark >Some jerk decided to exhibit extraordinarily poor driving skills today >by backing into my car in my parking lot, damaging the headlight, >fender, grille and bumper. _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From ingo at waratap.com Mon Aug 5 19:06:14 2002 From: ingo at waratap.com (Ingo D. Rautenberg) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink References: <001a01c23cc7$97b00950$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: <007b01c23ccc$511598c0$9865fea9@ingo> Ah, there's your..ahem...reason, Taka. When I bought my first Audi (not-quite 2-year-old still in warranty Tornado Red '85 4kq) in 1987, I made sure to park it away from all other cars -- right by the curb edge of the parking lot. Lo and behold one day and the side of the car was keyed! There wasn't a dent on the car and I'd only had it a few months. I never had it repainted or even claimed it on my full-coverage insurance as I thought the IDIOT who did it would most likely do it again. Never rusted there either. C'est la Vie (though that doesn't mean I like it). Of course, this was in '87 and foreign cars, no matter the make, were still villified by many here in the Motor City (though that was my only vandalism experience). -Ingo '91 200q20v...Slightly modified '83 Urquattro ('90 v8q RIP) http://hometown.aol.com/quattringo/index.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "TM" To: ; "'S-Car-List'" Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 5:32 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] I need a drink > Thanks for the sympathy, Mark- I'm pissed, as you can expect. > > No idea who hit me, no note, nothing. Probably another incompetent > idiot, considering my car is parked far and away from anything for > a reason. > > Taka > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.380 / Virus Database: 213 - Release Date: 7/24/2002 From johkar at teleport.com Mon Aug 5 16:53:58 2002 From: johkar at teleport.com (John Karasaki) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs In-Reply-To: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF42@lmc37.lmc.ericsso n.se> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020805154934.00a53910@mail.teleport.com> Hey James, I can do $280 plus shipping on these. They are in stock waiting to be drop shipped direct to you. I can't accept credit cards, but you can pay me via paypal. If you send me your address, I can check on shipping and get the total cost for you. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks. At 04:49 PM 8/5/02 -0400, James Murray (LMC) wrote: >Anyone interested in H&R Springs? > >Now that I've ordered my Shocks through Dan Simoes recent GP (thanks Dan), I >need Springs to complete my setup. I found the following deal on the net, >excellent price ! $299 for H&R kit 29771. They do not have them in stock but >said they could get them in a day or so. They will not lower the price more, >but said if we order a few sets we will save on freight. > >I'm placing my order this week, no fussing around. Let me know if you want >in? > >http://www.carnutz.cc/shop_online/H&R%20Instock%20Blowout%20List.htm > > >Paul K's review conviced me H&R is the way to go... > >Cheers, /James. > >P.S For those interested soely in Eibachs, I found the Pro-kit (1529.140) >for $214 at another dealer. Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for >Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears , keeps the rears from being >dropped too low). http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm > (I don't know if they >have them in stock, but Shox.com is back ordered until September !) > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Mon Aug 5 20:20:47 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20020805154934.00a53910@mail.teleport.com> Message-ID: <000101c23cd6$bb46ea50$0d42fea9@newpc> Damn, And I paid $340 for my springs from 2Bennett! :-( Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of John Karasaki Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 6:54 PM To: James Murray (LMC); s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs Hey James, I can do $280 plus shipping on these. They are in stock waiting to be drop shipped direct to you. I can't accept credit cards, but you can pay me via paypal. If you send me your address, I can check on shipping and get the total cost for you. Let me know if you're interested. Thanks. At 04:49 PM 8/5/02 -0400, James Murray (LMC) wrote: >Anyone interested in H&R Springs? > >Now that I've ordered my Shocks through Dan Simoes recent GP (thanks >Dan), I need Springs to complete my setup. I found the following deal >on the net, excellent price ! $299 for H&R kit 29771. They do not have >them in stock but said they could get them in a day or so. They will >not lower the price more, but said if we order a few sets we will save >on freight. > >I'm placing my order this week, no fussing around. Let me know if you >want in? > >http://www.carnutz.cc/shop_online/H&R%20Instock%20Blowout%20List.htm > > >Paul K's review conviced me H&R is the way to go... > >Cheers, /James. > >P.S For those interested soely in Eibachs, I found the Pro-kit >(1529.140) for $214 at another dealer. Don't forget you'll need the >Spacer Kit for Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears , keeps the >rears from being dropped too low). >http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm > (I don't know if they >have them in stock, but Shox.com is back ordered until September !) > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From brett at cloud9.net Mon Aug 5 20:42:45 2002 From: brett at cloud9.net (Brett Dikeman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Mime? MIME? Wee don need no stinkin MIME! Message-ID: >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Anyone else tired of seeing the above? :-) All you people who took the installation of the MIME filter to mean "oh, I don't have to bother configuring my email client"... ...you have no more excuses! I did a quick google search for instructions on turning off MIME and HTML in Outlook/Outlook Express, and hooo-boy are there a lot of them...Outlook seems to be universally despised in this regard :-) So, here's almost a half dozen different instructions to get you started- the first link just happens to contain instructions for just about every email client I've ever heard of(including a ton of non-MS email clients!)...it might be a good starting place for most people. http://www.expita.com/nomime.html http://home.attbi.com/~dcass/atmfaq/mime.htm http://www.wwi-models.org/misc/MIME/ http://www.autism-uk.ed.ac.uk/plain2.html http://www.panix.com/~donwiss/listowner/mailconf.txt If anything, your friends will thank you- your emails will be significantly smaller and quicker to download. Also, PLEASE edit your replies...some of you are really bad about simply quoting entire messages, and the entire message before that, and the entire message before that...Quote what's immediately relevant/important - everyone's already seen the rest! ;-) Brett -- ---- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ http://www.apple.com/switch/ From Airbil at aol.com Mon Aug 5 21:30:21 2002 From: Airbil at aol.com (Airbil@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Steering Damper BTDT Message-ID: <136.11e9fc75.2a80729d@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] As I percieved my steering getta little too testy (87,000,) I thought what the hell, for $65 lets put in a new steering damper. One bolt, one nut, how hard can it be? I also wondered whether having a stiffened suspension with bad damper could lead to the dreaded steering rack / to body work breakage. IIRC I used a 17mm socket on the bolt on the passenger side and a 15mm open end wrench on the nut at the other end (center of car.) I cut the black tie wrap holding the wires on the bolt side to move them out of the way. The bolt came out very easy, did not seem real tight. The nut side was a bit more problematic. I removed the first two electrical connectors (above the nut) from drivers side in on the firewall. Disconnect the top section of each and the bottom sections simply have to be jiggled to slide out. I think there was one more (electrical connector) below the nut too. Basically clear the area to have as much work space as possible. The nut cam off easy enough, but there was barely enough room then to pull off this end of the damper. (Space between bolt and firewalll bodywork is prolly about 2mm shy.) I had to improvise a little lever, fitting the open end of a wrench under the nut and a couple of light hammer bangs. Voila'! Thats basically it. Install is reverse. But take this opportunity to Haperclean (tm) all these areas that are rarely and barely accessible:) Bentley says that if damper goes in and out smooothly, that it's okay. Mine (the damper:) went in and out smoothly enough, but the first quarter inch +- push or pull offered no resistance. This first quarter inch is prolly when the damper is needed most IME, as I dont think it ever moves more than one inch while in operation. Anyone know how much it does move? Prolly doable in < an hr, but I took two with cleaning and beer breaks etc. Two skinned knuckles and one slightly sore back. And yes you will be balanced on your belly from both fenders =:O "reaching in." End of story is that a quick trip up and back to MI proved a lot of little hwy bumps smoothed out. Will do this again at prolly 150,000mi:) Cheers' Bill m 95 1/2 Smooth Steering Avant 75 Carrera From Airbil at aol.com Mon Aug 5 22:18:46 2002 From: Airbil at aol.com (Airbil@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] urS Ipod update Message-ID: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am prolly 4 to 6 weeks away from even obtaining the windows ipod but, have been following the urS Ipod, urS mp3 threads with great interest. This is good dialogue:) and great info. To recap issues as I seez them: Ipod I believe is the player of choice due to its small size, reliability, coolness, firewire connection = download speed, ease of use and ?? uhmmmm has given voice the the urS Mac contingent:) How should it be connected to the car stereo? I believe that a good fm modulator will be easiest and provide very acceptable sound for most of us. And provide an EZ integration solution for ANY cars' radio. Simply plug into earphone jack. That said, (he, he) my only question on the modulator is the degree of stereo separation vs hard wire. My neighbor has an Ipod and I'm gonna get a modulator to perform a very scientific "listen" test:) How is power provided to the ipod? Not totally sure how to do this one, but I suppose you could tap into the wires for the ipod cigarette lighter adapter and hard wire to an ignition on connection. Same as V1 perhaps. Where to install yet another device with no dash real estate? Engineering remains problematic here. Ideally I'd like to push a button and have it slide out and pop up from the three slug buttons on the dash console. "How you gonna do that?" I hear you say. Don't know, but I was thinking that perhaps an old CD drive mechnism could provide a framework. For a simpler manual mechanism, consider that the urS ashtray, sans ashtray insert, is practically a perfect fit. Complete with a large hole in the bottom to run wires through. You could put some velcro on the back of the ipod and then stick on the 3 slugs when in use. I've also considered mounting it on the SR panel and just pulling down for use. But what to do with wires I cannot figure out. Plus I'd like it to be hidden a bit better. Other issues ? Anyone? Stay tuned. Cheers' Bill M From Airbil at aol.com Mon Aug 5 22:19:06 2002 From: Airbil at aol.com (Airbil@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] urS Ipod update Message-ID: <1a0.6709737.2a807e0a@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am prolly 4 to 6 weeks away from even obtaining the windows ipod but, have been following the urS Ipod, urS mp3 threads with great interest. This is good dialogue:) and great info. To recap issues as I seez them: Ipod I believe is the player of choice due to its small size, reliability, coolness, firewire connection = download speed, ease of use and ?? uhmmmm has given voice the the urS Mac contingent:) How should it be connected to the car stereo? I believe that a good fm modulator will be easiest and provide very acceptable sound for most of us. And provide an EZ integration solution for ANY cars' radio. Simply plug into earphone jack. That said, (he, he) my only question on the modulator is the degree of stereo separation vs hard wire. My neighbor has an Ipod and I'm gonna get a modulator to perform a very scientific "listen" test:) How is power provided to the ipod? Not totally sure how to do this one, but I suppose you could tap into the wires for the ipod cigarette lighter adapter and hard wire to an ignition on connection. Same as V1 perhaps. Where to install yet another device with no dash real estate? Engineering remains problematic here. Ideally I'd like to push a button and have it slide out and pop up from the three slug buttons on the dash console. "How you gonna do that?" I hear you say. Don't know, but I was thinking that perhaps an old CD drive mechnism could provide a framework. For a simpler manual mechanism, consider that the urS ashtray, sans ashtray insert, is practically a perfect fit. Complete with a large hole in the bottom to run wires through. You could put some velcro on the back of the ipod and then stick on the 3 slugs when in use. I've also considered mounting it on the SR panel and just pulling down for use. But what to do with wires I cannot figure out. Plus I'd like it to be hidden a bit better. Other issues ? Anyone? Stay tuned. Cheers' Bill M From dbpulvino at hotmail.com Mon Aug 5 19:21:37 2002 From: dbpulvino at hotmail.com (Derek Pulvino) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Shop recomendations Message-ID: Wondering if anybody can recomend a good So. Cal. independent Audi shop in the area of Brea, Fullerton, Anahiem, Chino, or Pomona? My dad's down in that area, and looking for somebody to help with service on his vehicle; hoping to save a little off dealer costs. He's got an A8, not too far off warranty, so shop should be knowledgable on newer cars. Good customer service, Audi knowledge, and value are essential! Any btdt satisfied recomenders in the area down there? Derek Pulvino _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From pizzoman at yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 19:42:19 2002 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I have brakes !!! In-Reply-To: <9C422444DE99BC46B3AD3C6EAFC9711B01032976@tayexc13.americas.cpqcorp.net> Message-ID: <20020806014219.9252.qmail@web20802.mail.yahoo.com> Most of the time with a mushy pedal, I've found that the system just needs to be bled thoroughly every once in a while. Especially with Audi's having a boiling tendency on most of their fluids under "enthusiastic" use, (read: track days) the boiling of the fluid can cause air to enter the system. Although this is an extreme example, it's always good to bleed the system before you spend coin on rotors or pads. Just my $0.02 -Joe --- "Pollock, Thomas" wrote: > Hey guys, > > I couldn't wait till the big brake upgrade I have > planned for spring so I threw a set of front pads in > over the weekend. Guess what ? My pedal now grabs > right at the top !!! Really weird. I've driven > quite a few stockers and have heard through this > list that it just isn't possible. It's a little > spongier and I hope it will still firm up a bit but, > gone is the feeling that the pedal is going all the > way to the floor before anything starts grabbing... > cool. > > > Tom Pollock > > Compaq Computer Corporation > > AlphaServer Product Development > > *Tel (508)467-4441 > > * thomas.pollock@compaq.com > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From t44tq at mindspring.com Mon Aug 5 23:27:57 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I need a drink In-Reply-To: <007b01c23ccc$511598c0$9865fea9@ingo> Message-ID: <000901c23cf0$e11c2190$0d42fea9@newpc> Forgot to mention that this happened at my home, not too many people should be parking in the lot, most likely it's someone here. If I find out who, they're going to be very unhappy when I hit them with enough litigation to keep their lawyer in business for 10 years and then see if they can be prosecuted for felony destruction of property, hit-and-run, leaving the scene of an accident, etc. Taka shark-in-training car needs a nose job From ravensmith at adelphia.net Mon Aug 5 21:26:00 2002 From: ravensmith at adelphia.net (Eric's E-Mail) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Spotted in Washington! References: <20020805234012.5864340E@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <007101c23cf8$fc866fa0$6b01a8c0@ericspc> Hey, I just got back from Seattle, where I saw a really nice looking Red S4. License started with 40, won't say any more to protect the inocent. Anyway, I gave the dude and his signifigant other a big Thumbs up from the back seat of the Dodge Caravan my employee was driving (OK, so I had no interest in driving if I couldn't drive something German, and NO, I don't consider Dodge German just because Mercedes bought them out like the add campaign want's us to believe) but NOTHING! OK, so the windows were tinted, and perhaps they didn't see me. Then I saw the car at the Carrier! Too cool, they were following me around :-) Anyway, it was an S4 for sure (Rims gave it away for the most part). If it's a lister, I hope you had as much fun Sunday as I did. Were the Blue Angels buzzing the con tower cool or what?!?!?! Eric From dans at audifans.com Tue Aug 6 00:21:31 2002 From: dans at audifans.com (Dan Simoes) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs References: <5.1.0.14.0.20020805154934.00a53910@mail.teleport.com> Message-ID: <3D4F40BB.8209829A@audifans.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Great deal. I forgot to tell people that John could get these. Thanks John. John Karasaki wrote: > Hey James, > > I can do $280 plus shipping on these. They are in stock waiting to be drop > shipped direct to you. I can't accept credit cards, but you can pay me via > paypal. If you send me your address, I can check on shipping and get the > total cost for you. > > Let me know if you're interested. Thanks. > > At 04:49 PM 8/5/02 -0400, James Murray (LMC) wrote: > >Anyone interested in H&R Springs? > > > >Now that I've ordered my Shocks through Dan Simoes recent GP (thanks Dan), I > >need Springs to complete my setup. I found the following deal on the net, > >excellent price ! $299 for H&R kit 29771. They do not have them in stock but > >said they could get them in a day or so. They will not lower the price more, > >but said if we order a few sets we will save on freight. > > > >I'm placing my order this week, no fussing around. Let me know if you want > >in? > > > >http://www.carnutz.cc/shop_online/H&R%20Instock%20Blowout%20List.htm > > > > > >Paul K's review conviced me H&R is the way to go... > > > >Cheers, /James. > > > >P.S For those interested soely in Eibachs, I found the Pro-kit (1529.140) > >for $214 at another dealer. Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for > >Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears , keeps the rears from being > >dropped too low). http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm > > (I don't know if they > >have them in stock, but Shox.com is back ordered until September !) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list -- From citgrp at qwest.net Mon Aug 5 22:07:32 2002 From: citgrp at qwest.net (Brent Olson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission Message-ID: <000001c23cfe$ccd64770$6401a8c0@master> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have a 1993 S4, and this is my first post, yet I have followed the list for quite some time. Recently noticed a weird noise coming from the transmission when downshifting (typically from fourth to third at about 3200 RPM). It is not a synchro, as it is fully sunk into third, yet when I let out the clutch, I occasionally hear a short, high pitched whining sound (sounds somewhat like a synchro, and only lasts about ? a second). I have read multiple posts about the transmission problems with this car, yet this does not sound like the typical problems associated with it (i.e, growling under load in first and second gear). This car had the tranny replaced by the dealer at 39,917 miles. This was replaced on 1/17/96, and was replaced with the part number 01E-300-042-BX. Two questions: Does this sound like the typical S4 transmission problem? Was not the manufacturing problem solved by 1996 (or was this part number an inventoried transmission with the same defect)? Any help would be appreciated .. Brent Olson 1993 S4 MTM Stage 1+ 1988 Quattro 90 -- From fjamoroso at webtv.net Mon Aug 5 23:09:09 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] of radiators & ol kuhlers Message-ID: <4004-3D4F4BE5-5281@storefull-2193.public.lawson.webtv.net> Greetings all, It seems that the poor owner of the hot running '94 that I emailed about a few weeks ago needs a new radiator. Besides the stock replacement, are there any other viable factory replacements (V8 UrS units, or "heavy-duty" items, etc.), the family album lists several different items (ones with oil coolers built in?!? a la VW's system of routing the oil through the radiator to help warm it up quickly and keep it cool?)? Also, speakling of oil coolers, the options seem to be growing. Mark Turczyn, if you are out there, please get a hold of me to discuss the V8 UrS option. Frank@s-cars.org From rpecsar at pacbell.net Mon Aug 5 22:32:37 2002 From: rpecsar at pacbell.net (Rob Pecsar) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] AIRBAG Light Fix References: <3D41858E.A09D6D02@disk.com> Message-ID: <3D4F5165.B10D0963@pacbell.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Many thanks to the List, Chi Wong in particular, and Steve Mills' article and pics on UrS4.com. My '92 is finally free of the 2 minute airbag light. Also applies to '93 and '94s, if you can't access your Airbag with VAG-COM from under the hood. Tools required: Good maintenance records of your S4/S6 Thin blade screwdriver 4 mm Allen Wrench VAG-COM Flashlight What to do: * If you have a '92, verify that the KF14 recall was done on your car. If so, you have an AIRBAG II system. The dealer can tell by your S/N if the recall was done. If not, then let the dealer upgrade your airbag and fix the light for free! * Pry the trim piece off that surrounds your A/C Central Control. BE CAREFUL to go slowly. See Steve Mills pics @ http://www.urs4.com/technical/interior/hvac.html * Unscrew the two 4 mm Allen Head screws that hold on the trim piece spring clips. Again, Steve's HVAC article & pics really helps. * Lift out the central control unit and swing it out so it rest on the passenger seat. * A flashlight will help you see that you are looking down on the AIRBAG triggering unit (labeled as such). Note the connector on the left side of the triggering unit and note the grey foam that is just above the connector. Inside the foam are the two 2-pin connectors that hook up to your VAG-COM, identical to the ones under the left side of the hood. * Push back the foam and connect up the two connectors. * Follow the VAG-COM menu to view and clear your fault codes. * Reverse the order...you're done! Why did my AIRBAG fault in the first place, after the car was washed? Answer: The DS that owned the car before me fixed a blocked drain tube by stuffing paper towels in the heater flap so water wouldn't leak into the car. Well water still leaks in, just slower, which contacted the red Airbag connector above the ECM and threw the fault code. Hope this helps, Rob Pecsar -- From dkpriebe at attbi.com Mon Aug 5 23:00:41 2002 From: dkpriebe at attbi.com (dkpriebe) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 References: <3D49BE23.F7EFAF62@disk.com> <005f01c23aae$227c7ee0$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> <3D4BCD43.14D0B28@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <003e01c23d06$375af080$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> Thanks for the info about Dyment. They were the only place that had copies in stock. So, if anyone else needs a paperback copy of the Bently, give them a call. They only have 12 left. And they aren't cheap! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Igor Kessel" To: "dkpriebe" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:32 AM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 > dkpriebe wrote: > > > > I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked Amazon, > > Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but all > > indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available on > > CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions on who may > > still have one? > > > > Dave Priebe > > Kenmore, WA > > 91 200tqa 158k his > > 95.5 S6 100k hers > > Dave, > I used to buy Bentley for my former Audis from: > > DYMENT DISTRIBUTION > 800-544-8021 > 216-572-0725 > 20770 WESTWOOD DRIVE > STRONGSVILLE, OH 44136 > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From tedebearp at yahoo.com Mon Aug 5 23:33:47 2002 From: tedebearp at yahoo.com (Theodore Chen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] of radiators & ol kuhlers In-Reply-To: <4004-3D4F4BE5-5281@storefull-2193.public.lawson.webtv.net> Message-ID: <20020806053347.60673.qmail@web14207.mail.yahoo.com> --- Frank Amoroso wrote: > > Besides the stock replacement, are there any other viable factory > replacements (V8 UrS units, or "heavy-duty" items, etc.), the family > album lists several different items (ones with oil coolers built in?!? a > la VW's system of routing the oil through the radiator to help warm it > up quickly and keep it cool?)? frank, radiators with built-in heat exchangers are nothing new. look in a summit racing magazine and you'll see that the griffin and howe radiators have optional heat exchangers. i've got one of those in the mustang. the heat exchanger sits in one of the tanks on the side of the radiator. it works pretty well, too. -teddy __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From FvAMI at aol.com Tue Aug 6 02:36:26 2002 From: FvAMI at aol.com (FvAMI@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission Message-ID: <4c.f7ce17a.2a80ba5a@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 8/5/02 9:17:55 PM Pacific Daylight Time, citgrp@qwest.net writes: > . This was replaced on > 1/17/96, and was replaced with the part number 01E-300-042-BX. > > I am not an export on this issue -- first gear problems are common with these (I have had two replaced for that issue). I have heard of pinion bearing failures. Yours is a 1992 - 1995 S4 transmission. I was told that ..X are factory rebuilds (X - rebuilt) but have never verified it to be correct. Charlie has got all the info. http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~charlie/photos/cars/01E/trans.html Best regards From thequattroking at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 01:01:51 2002 From: thequattroking at yahoo.com (Shayne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Shop recomendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One of the best I have ever been to. INGOLSTADT WEST 7117 Canoga Ave Canoga Park CA 91303 (818) 713-1953 HTH, Shayne P. Oakland, CA. Enough Audis to give plenty of headaches. Parting: 1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5 > From: "Derek Pulvino" > Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:21:37 -0700 > To: 200q20v@audifans.com, s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Shop recomendations > > Wondering if anybody can recomend a good So. Cal. independent Audi shop in > the area of Brea, Fullerton, Anahiem, Chino, or Pomona? > > My dad's down in that area, and looking for somebody to help with service on > his vehicle; hoping to save a little off dealer costs. He's got an A8, not > too far off warranty, so shop should be knowledgable on newer cars. > > Good customer service, Audi knowledge, and value are essential! > > Any btdt satisfied recomenders in the area down there? > > Derek Pulvino > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > 200q20v mailing list > 200q20v@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/200q20v From thequattroking at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 01:01:51 2002 From: thequattroking at yahoo.com (Shayne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Shop recomendations In-Reply-To: Message-ID: One of the best I have ever been to. INGOLSTADT WEST 7117 Canoga Ave Canoga Park CA 91303 (818) 713-1953 HTH, Shayne P. Oakland, CA. Enough Audis to give plenty of headaches. Parting: 1972 Mercedes Benz 280 SE 4.5 > From: "Derek Pulvino" > Date: Mon, 05 Aug 2002 18:21:37 -0700 > To: 200q20v@audifans.com, s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Shop recomendations > > Wondering if anybody can recomend a good So. Cal. independent Audi shop in > the area of Brea, Fullerton, Anahiem, Chino, or Pomona? > > My dad's down in that area, and looking for somebody to help with service on > his vehicle; hoping to save a little off dealer costs. He's got an A8, not > too far off warranty, so shop should be knowledgable on newer cars. > > Good customer service, Audi knowledge, and value are essential! > > Any btdt satisfied recomenders in the area down there? > > Derek Pulvino > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > _______________________________________________ > 200q20v mailing list > 200q20v@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/200q20v From mathieu.mouraud at free.fr Tue Aug 6 10:40:22 2002 From: mathieu.mouraud at free.fr (mathieu.mouraud@free.fr) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Gear Shift Knob Message-ID: <1028619622.3d4f7d66bf79f@imp.free.fr> Hi guys, I guess you are getting tired of the peeling on the leather shift knob. Well, I went to my dealer and ordered the wood version, with the 6-speed pattern and it looks really classy, since I have the walnut trim. It is the same price than the leather one (around $30) and it has the advantage of being made for the car and doesn't look like aftermarket. It has the same part # than the leather one, just the last letter changes. Unlike my footprint gas pedal... :-))) From bob.rossato at att.net Tue Aug 6 07:48:35 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission In-Reply-To: <4c.f7ce17a.2a80ba5a@aol.com> Message-ID: > Yours is a 1992 - 1995 S4 transmission. I was told that ..X are factory > rebuilds (X - rebuilt) but have never verified it to be correct. Correct. The X and V at the end of the part number both signify a rebuilt part. The difference is that the X part requires a core exchange and the V does not. The V part is obviously more expensive. Bob From flhuillier at siebel.com Tue Aug 6 05:57:57 2002 From: flhuillier at siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Elverum: The Audi Northern Paradise Message-ID: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AAFE@parhqexm01.siebel.com> Hi, A few words before a long article (with video and pictures) regarding the scandinavian audi meeting which took place last week end. It tooks us 19 hours of non stop driving to go from Paris to Elverum. We met Joern on the way and finished the trip together. The meeting started saturday with track sessions for the whole day. The track and the location are very beautifull. Well, I saw more special Audi cars at this place than anywhere else. S2, S4, TT, RS2, RS4. All of them had a 400, 500 or 600 HP version !!!! Their owners were always available to answer any questions about their cars. Met and talked to Hans Dalhback a couple of times. Talked to Audi Fans who were impressed about our trip to be there. Very nice people, very passionate as well. On Sunday morinng, an Audi Sport Quattro S1 was there. I had the opportunity to have a 10 minutes ride on the open road in the forest. Absolutely impossible to describe the violence of the beast. Except I could not breath when the turbo was kicking !!!! This is beyond belief. I could hold the camcorder properly with both hands. The owner is as nice as his machine is powerfull. I can not thank him enough for the experience. Even after, I could not realize what happened to me. We went back on the track early afternoon with the S6 Plus to show them the french driving style (Adrian can describe very well !!!!) and then we went back home to France. Joern was a perfect host and took very well care of us. He even choose a restaurant on friday night where the waitress was very cute . We will come back with more cars next year. Everybody who has the opportunity should go. It is worth the trip. Joern, A huge thank you for everything. We are waiting you in Paris in september for Le Man Classic. Regards, Frederic. From panderso at maine.rr.com Tue Aug 6 09:40:55 2002 From: panderso at maine.rr.com (Peter Anderson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission In-Reply-To: <000001c23cfe$ccd64770$6401a8c0@master> Message-ID: Brent, I can only share what I know WRT pinion bearing failure issue. My car is a 93 which suffered this problem a little over a year ago. I replaced the transmission with a European 6-speed from an S2. The symptom exhibited was a high pitched whine. It grew progressively louder until it could be heard with the windows up. In particular, if I drove beside the center divider or parked cars / buildings with the windows open the sound was VERY pronounced. This sound was present no matter which gear was selected and its pitch varied with wheel speed - not engine speed. -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed On 08/06/02 12:07 AM, "Brent Olson" wrote: > Two questions: Does this sound like the typical S4 transmission > problem? Was not the manufacturing problem solved by 1996 (or was this > part number an inventoried transmission with the same defect)? > > Any help would be appreciated .. From rfeagleye at thornhillcpa.com Tue Aug 6 09:50:01 2002 From: rfeagleye at thornhillcpa.com (Robert F. Eagleye) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] My Question for today...how to remove paint overspray... Message-ID: I have a few areas of paint overspray on the black side trim, bottom door trim, and weatherstrip inside the door. The previous owner had the doors touched up and there is some signs of it on these pieces. How should I go about getting it off? Does some sort of thinner work without messing up the black plastic parts? Is Simple Green the trick? Or is it too late and I should get new trim pieces? Does anyone have any experiences they can share? Thanks! Rob Eagleye Robert F. Eagleye Thornhill Financial, Inc. 3501 Embassy Parkway, Suite 101 Akron, OH 44333 Phone (330) 670-9075 x 11 Fax (330) 670-9077 From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Tue Aug 6 09:51:56 2002 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission References: <000001c23cfe$ccd64770$6401a8c0@master> Message-ID: <3D4FC66C.213E2FBF@verizon.net> How about la throw-out bearing. It can whine under obscure circumstances until it starts whining all the time. kirby Brent Olson wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I have a 1993 S4, and this is my first post, yet I have followed the > list for quite some time. Recently noticed a weird noise coming from > the transmission when downshifting (typically from fourth to third at > about 3200 RPM). It is not a synchro, as it is fully sunk into third, > yet when I let out the clutch, I occasionally hear a short, high pitched > whining sound (sounds somewhat like a synchro, and only lasts about ? a > second). > > I have read multiple posts about the transmission problems with this > car, yet this does not sound like the typical problems associated with > it (i.e, growling under load in first and second gear). This car had > the tranny replaced by the dealer at 39,917 miles. This was replaced on > 1/17/96, and was replaced with the part number 01E-300-042-BX. > > Two questions: Does this sound like the typical S4 transmission > problem? Was not the manufacturing problem solved by 1996 (or was this > part number an inventoried transmission with the same defect)? > > Any help would be appreciated .. > > Brent Olson > 1993 S4 MTM Stage 1+ > 1988 Quattro 90 > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mlped at qwest.net Tue Aug 6 08:51:20 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 In-Reply-To: <003e01c23d06$375af080$e5c4e60c@attbi.com> Message-ID: Just a thought, before you do a full monte on a complete Bentley, you may want to check Dyment's Model Specific/Area Specific Shop Manuals, i.e. PN # W42-013-195-107, "Repair Manual 100/S4/A6/S6 Engine Code: AAN 1992 -> 2.22 liter 5-Cylinder Turbo, General, Engine." Edition 06.95 PN # W42-013-195-108, "Repair Manual 100/S4/A6/S6 Engine Code: AAN 1992 -> 2.22 liter 5-Cylinder Turbo, Fuel Injection & Ignition." PN # W42-013-195-109, "Repair Manual 100/S4/A6/S6, 1992 -> Manual Transmission 01E All Wheel Drive (S4/S6)" Edition 12.95 PN # W42-013-195-119, "Repair Manual 100/S4/A6/S6, 1992 -> Body--Exterior, Body--Interior" Edition 06.95 There may be others (?? I don't seem to have the comprehensive electrical schematics that are in the full Bentley.) FWIW, these are the relevant sections of the full Bentley, but published in separate @ 8.5"x 11" white pamphlet form at, IIRC @ $15 to $20 +/- per pamphlet. Easier to thumb through in the garage, or :-) bathroom than the full separate Bentley volumes of the regular Bentley. A lot less than the Bentley. mlp ~-----Original Message----- ~From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com ~[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of dkpriebe ~Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 11:01 PM ~To: Igor Kessel ~Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com ~Subject: Re: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 ~ ~ ~Thanks for the info about Dyment. They were the only place that had copies ~in stock. So, if anyone else needs a paperback copy of the Bently, ~give them ~a call. They only have 12 left. And they aren't cheap! ~ ~ ~----- Original Message ----- ~From: "Igor Kessel" ~To: "dkpriebe" ~Cc: ~Sent: Saturday, August 03, 2002 5:32 AM ~Subject: Re: [s-cars] Bentley manual for S6 ~ ~ ~> dkpriebe wrote: ~> > ~> > I'm looking to purchase the Bentley manual for my 95.5 S6. I checked ~Amazon, ~> > Barnes & Noble, and Bentley themselves for the paperback version, but ~all ~> > indicate that it is no longer available. I realize that it is available ~on ~> > CD, but I would prefer the hard copy version. Any suggestions ~on who may ~> > still have one? ~> > ~> > Dave Priebe ~> > Kenmore, WA ~> > 91 200tqa 158k his ~> > 95.5 S6 100k hers ~> ~> Dave, ~> I used to buy Bentley for my former Audis from: ~> ~> DYMENT DISTRIBUTION ~> 800-544-8021 ~> 216-572-0725 ~> 20770 WESTWOOD DRIVE ~> STRONGSVILLE, OH 44136 ~> ~> -- ~> Igor Kessel ~> two turbo quattros ~> _______________________________________________ ~> S-CAR-List mailing list ~> S-CAR-List@audifans.com ~> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ~ ~ ~ ~_______________________________________________ ~S-CAR-List mailing list ~S-CAR-List@audifans.com ~http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ~ ~ From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Tue Aug 6 10:56:25 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF5E@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Does not sound like the symptoms of pinion bearing to me.... As I'm living with one right now. Sounds like either the clutch, flywheel, or throw-out bearing. I'd agree with Kirby, the throw-out bearing is a likely candidate. Cheers, /James. -----Original Message----- From: Kirby Smith [SMTP:kirby.a.smith@verizon.net] Sent: August 6, 2002 8:52 AM To: Brent Olson Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission How about la throw-out bearing. It can whine under obscure circumstances until it starts whining all the time. kirby Brent Olson wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I have a 1993 S4, and this is my first post, yet I have followed the > list for quite some time. Recently noticed a weird noise coming from > the transmission when downshifting (typically from fourth to third at > about 3200 RPM). It is not a synchro, as it is fully sunk into third, > yet when I let out the clutch, I occasionally hear a short, high pitched > whining sound (sounds somewhat like a synchro, and only lasts about ? a > second). > > I have read multiple posts about the transmission problems with this > car, yet this does not sound like the typical problems associated with > it (i.e, growling under load in first and second gear). This car had > the tranny replaced by the dealer at 39,917 miles. This was replaced on > 1/17/96, and was replaced with the part number 01E-300-042-BX. > > Two questions: Does this sound like the typical S4 transmission > problem? Was not the manufacturing problem solved by 1996 (or was this > part number an inventoried transmission with the same defect)? > > Any help would be appreciated..... > > Brent Olson > 1993 S4 MTM Stage 1+ > 1988 Quattro 90 > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From smarinello at telocity.com Tue Aug 6 11:20:54 2002 From: smarinello at telocity.com (Steve Marinello) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S6 avant on ebay Message-ID: <018501c23d5d$30f9df10$6401a8c0@athlon1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I hope it was a lister (Griff?) that got that wagon for $19,900 with under 61k on it. That looked to be a nice one at heck of a price. Steve -- From munrof at sympatico.ca Tue Aug 6 13:05:37 2002 From: munrof at sympatico.ca (Fred Munro) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] I have brakes !!! Message-ID: <01C23D42.86650B20.munrof@sympatico.ca> Hi Tom; The brakes should begin grabbing in the first 1" of pedal travel - mine do. To have this happen, though, requires routine maintenance - every year I remove all pads, clean up and lube the pad contact points on the pad carriers, check & lube the caliper guide pins, free up and lube the e-brake cams, and flush the brake fluid. Using the e-brake regularly keeps the rear pad clearance set and the pedal high. The Audi pads are prone to seizing in the calipers, the guide pins seize up, and the e-brake cams seize up. Any or all of these problems can lead to the excessive brake pedal travel commonly mentioned on the list. In your case the old front pads were probably hung up in the carrier. The spongy pedal indicates air in the system - try gravity bleeding or pressure bleeding the system. Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: Pollock, Thomas [SMTP:Thomas.Pollock@hp.com] Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 1:08 PM To: S-car list Subject: [s-cars] I have brakes !!! Hey guys, I couldn't wait till the big brake upgrade I have planned for spring so I threw a set of front pads in over the weekend. Guess what ? My pedal now grabs right at the top !!! Really weird. I've driven quite a few stockers and have heard through this list that it just isn't possible. It's a little spongier and I hope it will still firm up a bit but, gone is the feeling that the pedal is going all the way to the floor before anything starts grabbing... cool. > Tom Pollock > Compaq Computer Corporation > AlphaServer Product Development > *Tel (508)467-4441 > * thomas.pollock@compaq.com > > > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From knotnook at traverse.com Tue Aug 6 13:16:07 2002 From: knotnook at traverse.com (Kneale Brownson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase In-Reply-To: <000701c23a33$85cf3e90$e0b28d18@DB9KQ211> References: Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20020806121500.00c77ef0@traverse.com> -- How does this placement (or any other, for that matter) help with a car that would sit out overnight in sub-zero temps (F)? At 10:47 AM 08/02/2002 -0400, tblack wrote: >Keep in mind one important matter in the colder parts of the country where >below freezing temperatures are encountered you may find the seperator tank >full of frozen moisture from the combustion process. This can result in >blown oil seals and lots of oil mess to clean up, BTDT. The tank should be >located such that it has adequate heat to prevent this happening. In the >area to the passenger side of the engine behind the EM should be ideal. >Any thoughts? -- From brett at cloud9.net Tue Aug 6 13:21:55 2002 From: brett at cloud9.net (Brett Dikeman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20020806121500.00c77ef0@traverse.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020806121500.00c77ef0@traverse.com> Message-ID: >At 10:47 AM 08/02/2002 -0400, tblack wrote: > >>Keep in mind one important matter in the colder parts of the country where >>below freezing temperatures are encountered you may find the seperator tank >>full of frozen moisture from the combustion process. This can result in >>blown oil seals and lots of oil mess to clean up, BTDT. The tank should be >>located such that it has adequate heat to prevent this happening. In the >>area to the passenger side of the engine behind the EM should be ideal. >>Any thoughts? At 12:16 PM -0400 8/6/02, Kneale Brownson wrote: >How does this placement (or any other, for that matter) help with a >car that would sit out overnight in sub-zero temps (F)? I think what he's saying is that the unit should be located where it will get sufficiently hot enough that moisture either won't accumulate or will be boiled off as a course of normal running. I don't think it will be a problem for most of us, since both crankcase gasses and most of the engine compartment get pretty toasty. Brett -- ---- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ http://www.apple.com/switch/ From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Tue Aug 6 11:32:32 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1992 UrS4 Springs For Sale Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A733D@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> HOT ITEM HERE: -1992 UrS4 Springs (Front and Rear) -138K Miles on Springs -Keep OEM Height $250.00 + Shipping...prefer Colorado Sale but will ship. From brett at cloud9.net Tue Aug 6 14:23:04 2002 From: brett at cloud9.net (Brett Dikeman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NE Aftermarket event this friday/weekend Message-ID: Just a heads up for those of you in the northeast- the NE Audi Owners Club(no QCUSA/ACCNA/NEQ affiliation) is having their annual aftermarket event at Ira Audi in Danvers, MA. Over 300 cars are expected. I know one of the organizers, and I asked him if we could get some spaces for the old-school crowd, similar to what we did year #2(if I have that right. We had a great turnout- V8q 5speeds, S6's, a bunch of coupes and cabriolets, an urq or two, etc)- he said yes, and asked the following things be passed along: a)sign up ASAP(see below) Make sure you list model year etc. Drop me an email too, if you could. b)get there AT OR BEFORE 9AM. Parking is largely first-come first serve; we'll earn serious bonus points with the organizers if Audifans folks show up on time/early for group parking(please note: they're trying to work us in at the last minute, which is my fault for not talking to them sooner about it. Group parking isn't guaranteed- please be nice if it doesn't work out.) Full event details and signup are at http://www.neaudi.com Also note there is a drag strip event Friday night up in NH, and a group drive to Hampton Beach. I'll be at the drag strip event; -might- go to the beach drive, not sure. Reminder: no QCUSA, ACCNA or NEQ affiliation; nothing against them...Since I am social events person for the NEQ, I didn't want to have anyone think "hey, Brett's told us all about this, it must be a quattro club thing!" :) Brett -- ---- "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ http://www.apple.com/switch/ From HoosierMP at aol.com Tue Aug 6 14:38:09 2002 From: HoosierMP at aol.com (HoosierMP@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission Message-ID: <165.1157fca6.2a816381@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 8/5/2002 11:17:55 PM US Eastern Standard Time, citgrp@qwest.net writes: > Two questions: Does this sound like the typical S4 transmission > problem? Was not the manufacturing problem solved by 1996 (or was this > part number an inventoried transmission with the same defect)? > > I had a similar sound, but on the 3 to 2 down shift. The sound went away after replacing the clutch disc, pressure plate, release and pilot bearings. Richard From jpostup at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 12:35:09 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs In-Reply-To: <3D4F40BB.8209829A@audifans.com> Message-ID: <20020806183509.18614.qmail@web10903.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, I say, Springs, like wine, dates, and high end audio are a personal choice. James Murray wrote:" Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for > >Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears " Igor made this point clear also. Does anyone know the part number for that Eibach spacer kit.? 50mm X 12mm Jeff Posto Eibach / Bilstein is what I seek. Dan Simoes wrote:-- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Great deal. I forgot to tell people that John could get these. Thanks John. John Karasaki wrote: > Hey James, > > I can do $280 plus shipping on these. They are in stock waiting to be drop > shipped direct to you. I can't accept credit cards, but you can pay me via > paypal. If you send me your address, I can check on shipping and get the > total cost for you. > > Let me know if you're interested. Thanks. > > At 04:49 PM 8/5/02 -0400, James Murray (LMC) wrote: > >Anyone interested in H&R Springs? > > > >Now that I've ordered my Shocks through Dan Simoes recent GP (thanks Dan), I > >need Springs to complete my setup. I found the following deal on the net, > >excellent price ! $299 for H&R kit 29771. They do not have them in stock but > >said they could get them in a day or so. They will not lower the price more, > >but said if we order a few sets we will save on freight. > > > >I'm placing my order this week, no fussing around. Let me know if you want > >in? > > > >http://www.carnutz.cc/shop_online/H&R%20Instock%20Blowout%20List.htm > > > > > >Paul K's review conviced me H&R is the way to go... > > > >Cheers, /James. > > > >P.S For those interested soely in Eibachs, I found the Pro-kit (1529.140) > >for $214 at another dealer. Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for > >Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears , keeps the rears from being > >dropped too low). http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm > > (I don't know if they > >have them in stock, but Shox.com is back ordered until September !) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list -- _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Tue Aug 6 15:50:06 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADF6D@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Very true, didn't mean to imply this was the best setup, it's a personal choice. I waffled over this for some time, and I'm leaning more towards H&R because it's a stiffer spring but I think both are good setups and prices and very close. I'll probably regret it with the crappy roads we have here... I will send you an e-mail with the names of a few other guys that want Eibachs, maybe you can go in with them? Like I said before, the following place seems to have a good deal: http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm (not affiliated, just passing on what I found...). Cheers, /James. -----Original Message----- From: jeff posto [SMTP:jpostup@yahoo.com] Sent: August 6, 2002 2:35 PM To: Dan Simoes; John Karasaki Cc: James Murray (LMC); s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Good Deal on H&R Springs Hi, I say, Springs, like wine, dates, and high end audio are a personal choice. James Murray wrote:" Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for > >Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears " Igor made this point clear also. Does anyone know the part number for that Eibach spacer kit.? 50mm X 12mm Jeff Posto Eibach / Bilstein is what I seek. Dan Simoes wrote: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Great deal. I forgot to tell people that John could get these. Thanks John. John Karasaki wrote: > Hey James, > > I can do $280 plus shipping on these. They are in stock waiting to be drop > shipped direct to you. I can't accept credit cards, but you can pay me via > paypal. If you send me your address, I can check on shipping and get the > total cost for you. > > Let me know if you're interested. Thanks. > > At 04:49 PM 8/5/02 -0400, James Murray (LMC) wrote: > >Anyone interested in H&R Springs? > > > >Now that I've ordered my Shocks through Dan Simoes recent GP (thanks Dan), I > >need Springs to complete my setup. I found the following deal on the net, > >excellent price ! $299 for H&R kit 29771. They do ! not have them in stock but > >said they could get them in a day or so. They will not lower the price more, > >but said if we order a few sets we will save on freight. > > > >I'm placing my order this week, no fussing around. Let me know if you want > >in? > > > >http://www.carnutz.cc/shop_online/H&R%20Instock%20Blowout%20List.htm > > > > > >Paul K's review conviced me H&R is the way to go... > > > >Cheers, /James. > > > >P.S For those interested soely in Eibachs, I found the Pro-kit (1529.140) > >for $214 at another dealer. Don't forget you'll need the Spacer Kit for > >Eibach Kit: ~ $40 (10mm spacer for rears , keeps the rears from being > >dropped too low). http://www.import-store.com/eibach_spring-apps.htm > > (I don't know if they > >have them in stock, but Shox.com is back ordered until September !) > > > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list -- _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _____ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better From axm135 at po.cwru.edu Tue Aug 6 13:09:46 2002 From: axm135 at po.cwru.edu (adam morley) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] sighting + shop rec in seattle area? Message-ID: <20020806120946.T19773@chopin.gmi.com> A first for me yesterday, saw two s-cars in less than a minute. A Pearl White while headed towards Bellevue Way, and a Black heading down Bellevue Way towards I90. On the shop rec, does anyone have anything negative to say about Autohaus Vick in Bellevue? Thanks, adam From tectonic1 at mac.com Tue Aug 6 17:05:18 2002 From: tectonic1 at mac.com (Peter) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Northeast Audi gathering @ IRA Message-ID: I will be attending this event on Saturday with my '93. From a look at the numerous registrations on the site, there do not appear to be more than a few UrQ's and '91 200's to represent those of us from the "old school". I'lll be heading down from the Portland (Maine) area very early Saturday morning. Peter Anderson 93 S4 6 speed From Tblack5 at cogeco.ca Tue Aug 6 18:33:51 2002 From: Tblack5 at cogeco.ca (tblack) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase References: <4.3.2.7.2.20020806121500.00c77ef0@traverse.com> Message-ID: <001701c23d90$f56e32a0$e0b28d18@DB9KQ211> Moisture freezing in an oil separator is most likely to occur if the car is used only for short drives. A regular check of the drain for the separator would be in order in that case. Tom Black. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Dikeman" To: "Kneale Brownson" ; "tblack" ; "Johnny Alpha" ; <200q20v@audifans.com>; ; Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 12:21 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] RE: air/oil separator group purchase > >At 10:47 AM 08/02/2002 -0400, tblack wrote: > > > >>Keep in mind one important matter in the colder parts of the country where > >>below freezing temperatures are encountered you may find the seperator tank > >>full of frozen moisture from the combustion process. This can result in > >>blown oil seals and lots of oil mess to clean up, BTDT. The tank should be > >>located such that it has adequate heat to prevent this happening. In the > >>area to the passenger side of the engine behind the EM should be ideal. > >>Any thoughts? > > At 12:16 PM -0400 8/6/02, Kneale Brownson wrote: > > >How does this placement (or any other, for that matter) help with a > >car that would sit out overnight in sub-zero temps (F)? > > > I think what he's saying is that the unit should be located where it > will get sufficiently hot enough that moisture either won't > accumulate or will be boiled off as a course of normal running. I > don't think it will be a problem for most of us, since both crankcase > gasses and most of the engine compartment get pretty toasty. > > Brett > -- > ---- > "They that give up essential liberty to obtain temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Ben Franklin > http://www.users.cloud9.net/~brett/ > http://www.apple.com/switch/ > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From ravensmith at adelphia.net Tue Aug 6 16:19:32 2002 From: ravensmith at adelphia.net (Eric's E-Mail) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Audi Service in So-Cal. Message-ID: <001b01c23d97$57190a10$6b01a8c0@ericspc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Give VW Specialties a call Ron Wood races a Coupe Quattro on Rallye and does a lot of Audi repairs. H= e's been written up in several magazines, and has leads on Factory Audi par= ts, including CBR transmissions every now and again. Tell him Eric Dow sent 'ya. He did my 90k for a very reasonable price, and I've known him for more than= 10 years now. Eric Dow -- From t44tq at mindspring.com Tue Aug 6 20:23:10 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? Message-ID: <001201c23da0$3b2afd50$0d42fea9@newpc> Just wondering- our A4 w/ H&R coilovers is quite stiff, but the ride is _excellent_ for a lowered, stiffer suspension setup. My 200 in comparison crashes over bumps. Wondering if anyone has gotten custom valved Bilsteins to match exactly with your springs and if that would make a big enough difference or not. Taka From t44tq at mindspring.com Tue Aug 6 20:40:29 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] A big THANK YOU to Bob Pastore Message-ID: <001601c23da2$a65f87b0$0d42fea9@newpc> Thanks to the generosity of Bob Pastore, my car's instrument cluster has been fixed! :-) Happy, happy! One thing we've learned in doing some serious surgery to my cluster- Type 44 100 ICs use a compatible main circuit board to my 200q20v. I know this was told to me in the case of using a C4 100 board in an UrS4, but not w/ regard to type 44s. Now I know that the type 44 boards work. Funny thing is, my original cluster had problems anyway- full tank of gas, 1400+ miles to empty?!? Nearly empty tank of gas, still 600+ miles to empty. Now, the mileage indications are correct, as well as temperature and everything else. One thing I messed up- the clock and trip computer illumination is somehow reversed- it's dark when the lights are on, bright when the lights are off. I don't mind it being bright w/ the lights off, but I can't read the readouts with the lights on. Any ideas on what bulbs/connections need to be reversed? Taka From jpostup at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 17:55:54 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? In-Reply-To: <001201c23da0$3b2afd50$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: <20020806235554.1111.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Taka, This seems like a great mechanical design challenge for Igor K!! A mass-spring-damper type of dynamics problem. What you ask for is fundamentally correct, because I would think, a 'lite' damper (shock) coupled with a stiff spring would be non-optimal. In the words of an ME, underdamped. The question is: how would you specify the valving to be correct?, even if you DID find a vendor to do it. JP TM wrote:Just wondering- our A4 w/ H&R coilovers is quite stiff, but the ride is _excellent_ for a lowered, stiffer suspension setup. My 200 in comparison crashes over bumps. Wondering if anyone has gotten custom valved Bilsteins to match exactly with your springs and if that would make a big enough difference or not. Taka _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better From t44tq at mindspring.com Tue Aug 6 21:01:29 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? In-Reply-To: <20020806235554.1111.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01c23da5$953e4720$0d42fea9@newpc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Jeff- very easy- I'd have the car corner-weighed so I know what each shock/spring combo is subjected to, measure the amount of suspension travel and then supply the vendor w/ the actual springs so each shock can be optimized for each corner. Simple race-car setup stuff, shock dyno and spring testers are common in race shops. If I went to Leda or someone similarly exotic/expensive, I could have them just build the shocks to the proper spec. I don't know if that answered your question. The biggest concern I have is that this would be so prohibitively expensive that I'd never do it. If I had the funds, I'd be willing to get JRZs for a 993tt, but no way would I spend that kind of money on an Audi, even if I had the money. Taka -----Original Message----- From: jeff posto [mailto:jpostup@yahoo.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:56 PM To: TM; S-Car-List Subject: Re: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? Taka, This seems like a great mechanical design challenge for Igor K!! A mass-spring-damper type of dynamics problem. What you ask for is fundamentally correct, because I would think, a 'lite' damper (shock) coupled with a stiff spring would be non-optimal. In the words of an ME, underdamped. The question is: how would you specify the valving to be correct?, even if you DID find a vendor to do it. JP TM wrote: Just wondering- our A4 w/ H&R coilovers is quite stiff, but the ride is _excellent_ for a lowered, stiffer suspension setup. My 200 in comparison crashes over bumps. Wondering if anyone has gotten custom valved Bilsteins to match exactly with your springs and if that would make a big enough difference or not. Taka _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _____ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better -- From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Tue Aug 6 21:38:43 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] A big THANK YOU to Bob Pastore Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5472@NJ_DC_01> Taka: We probably reversed the two bulbs with the condoms on them when swapping the boards. Also, re main boards: I think we determined that a c4 S4 main board was different than the type 44 100 or 200. The 100 and 200 had different part numbers but were visually the same and proved to be interchangable. Bob -----Original Message----- From: TM [mailto:t44tq@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:40 PM To: S-Car-List Cc: 200q20v Mailing List Subject: [s-cars] A big THANK YOU to Bob Pastore Thanks to the generosity of Bob Pastore, my car's instrument cluster has been fixed! :-) Happy, happy! One thing we've learned in doing some serious surgery to my cluster- Type 44 100 ICs use a compatible main circuit board to my 200q20v. I know this was told to me in the case of using a C4 100 board in an UrS4, but not w/ regard to type 44s. Now I know that the type 44 boards work. Funny thing is, my original cluster had problems anyway- full tank of gas, 1400+ miles to empty?!? Nearly empty tank of gas, still 600+ miles to empty. Now, the mileage indications are correct, as well as temperature and everything else. One thing I messed up- the clock and trip computer illumination is somehow reversed- it's dark when the lights are on, bright when the lights are off. I don't mind it being bright w/ the lights off, but I can't read the readouts with the lights on. Any ideas on what bulbs/connections need to be reversed? Taka _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From fjamoroso at webtv.net Tue Aug 6 19:52:40 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] parts sources Message-ID: <10763-3D506F58-2240@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> besides The Parts Connection and The Parts Bin, what were the other two sources that were recently posted? Frank@s-cars.org From fjamoroso at webtv.net Tue Aug 6 19:55:04 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 1993 S4 Transmission In-Reply-To: FvAMI@aol.com's message of Tue, 6 Aug 2002 01:36:26 EDT Message-ID: <10762-3D506FE8-2681@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> True, the X part number suffix denotes a rebuilt item (and typically requires a core return). Frank@s-cars.org From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Tue Aug 6 21:59:28 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Heat wave is over.....car feels very strong! Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5473@NJ_DC_01> On the East Coast we've had a few weeks of straight high 90 degree days with very high humidity -- the sort of day that makes your turbo car feel slow. The heat wave broke today, and we had mid to low 80's, with low humidity. Driving home, my car felt exceptionally strong. At first I thought it was just the change in weather, but then I noticed it was pulling 20 inches of vacuum on my boost gauge at idle. This is by far the highest idle reading I've seen on my car(s), with 17 inches being "normal", and anything 15 inches or below resulting in a noticable decrease in performance. At 15 inches, I'll generally find a vacuum leak that will bring me back to 17". There seems to a direct correlation between vacuum readings and HP. Any ideas on how/why the sudden increase in vacuum and HP, and what might cause it (so I can keep it this way!!!!)For those with boost guages, what vacuum readings do you see as "normal"? Bob _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From fjamoroso at webtv.net Tue Aug 6 20:08:40 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? In-Reply-To: jeff posto 's message of Tue, 6 Aug 2002 16:55:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <10763-3D507318-2264@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> Hmm, I personally would like less compression (rebound seems good though) on my Bil Sports w/ Eibachs. Frank@s-cars.org From chadclark at qwest.net Tue Aug 6 20:18:44 2002 From: chadclark at qwest.net (Chad Clark) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] factory aluminum mirror housings on e-bay Message-ID: Had someone mentioned the desire for these recently? Looks like they may even fit my '92 but would NOT look good on a pearl car IMO. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849223240&r=0 &t=0 Also, look at the bottom of the page, can you get an A8/S8 any lower?!?!? HTH, Chad Clark From fjamoroso at webtv.net Tue Aug 6 20:12:37 2002 From: fjamoroso at webtv.net (Frank Amoroso) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Vacuum Message-ID: <10766-3D507405-839@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> I pull 17 in on overrun, 20 in on extreme overrun. Frank@s-cars.org From dbpulvino at hotmail.com Tue Aug 6 19:12:36 2002 From: dbpulvino at hotmail.com (Derek Pulvino) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: s-cars] sighting + shop rec in seattle area? Message-ID: Adam, I've used Redmond Werkshop with satisfaction in the past. Not much negative to say about Autohaus Vic, my only experience with them was when I was rebuilding the front end on my 200. Had them press in the inner bushings for me, while they wouldn't press in subframe bushings. Probably a tooling problem seeing as the subframe is kind of sizable, they also said they'd never seen the need to in the past. For all intents, they were probably right, but I had bought the part and still wanted to get it done. dp Message: 9 Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002 12:09:46 -0700 From: adam morley To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] sighting + shop rec in seattle area? A first for me yesterday, saw two s-cars in less than a minute. A Pearl White while headed towards Bellevue Way, and a Black heading down Bellevue Way towards I90. On the shop rec, does anyone have anything negative to say about Autohaus Vick in Bellevue? Thanks, adam _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx From pizzoman at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 19:35:43 2002 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Paging Pete Anderson In-Reply-To: <10766-3D507405-839@storefull-2198.public.lawson.webtv.net> Message-ID: <20020807013543.75241.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Pete- Can you e-mail me off list? Thanks, Joe __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From Audisport8 at aol.com Tue Aug 6 22:40:44 2002 From: Audisport8 at aol.com (Audisport8@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Good Deal on H&R Springs Message-ID: <181.c40a65d.2a81d49c@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sorry to be indecisive- but... Are the Eibach's a little softer than the H&R's? I had H&R/Bilstein setup on my 93 90CS, ouch!! way too harsh for my likes. If so, I probably should go with the softer Eibach's. Thoughts? Matt 93 UrS4 From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Tue Aug 6 21:04:18 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50E3@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Gents, Need labor estimates for RS2 Conversion? - RS2 or Garrett K26/T04 Turbo - Med Hard - RS2 Injectors - Easy - RS2 MAF - Easy - Exhaust Cam - Med - RS2 Exhaust Manifold - Med Hard - Oil/Coolant Lines to Turbo- Med Hard - RS2 Fuel Pressure Regulator- ?? I figure around 10 or less hours done by a professional? Also how important is upgrading the Intercooler with the RS2 conversion? Is the RS2 Intercooler bolt-on? Or just better to go with 3rd Party like Hap's TEC? Thx cp From skippertgore at hotmail.com Wed Aug 7 03:06:03 2002 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Intake air temperature sensor Message-ID: Hi- My s4 has been throwing the 2322 code over the last month. It seems to be intermitent. I have checked the sensor and wiring at the ECU per Bentley, and I'm getting good values sometimes, and bad at other times. This link details two common connection problems with the sensor, however it's applicable to the 91 20v motor. http://www.SJMAutoTechnik.COM/20vairt.html Does the AAN have a problem with this as well? Does anyone know of a remedy or a known place I can check to see if this may be the problem with my car? TIA, -Matt, CT _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Tue Aug 6 21:11:34 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Turbo Oil and Coolant Line Specs for Garett K26/T04E Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50E5@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Gents, Received some great information from Alex at http://www.euro-audi-parts.com in regards to oil and coolant lines needed for Garrett K26/T04E turbo in a UrS4...see below: Oil Feed Line: Tap the filter housing with 1/8" NPT 1/8" NPT to AN-6 Adapter - $3.19 AN-6 120 Degree Hose End - $23.10 AN-6 Braided Hose - $6.60 per foot AN-6 90 Degree Hose End - $20.31 1/8" NPT to AN-6 Adapter - $3.19 Remove the stock oil feed line from oil filter housing. Tap to 1/8" NPT. Fit the 1/8" NPT to AN-6 adapter. Measure AN-6 line from the oil filter bracket to the turbo oil inlet. Cut braided hose to length. Fit the 120 degree and 90 degree hose ends to the cut hose. Connect the 120 degree end to the adapter at the oil filter bracket. Twist on the second 1/8" to AN-6 adapter to the turbo oil inlet. Connect the 90 degree hose end to the adapter on the turbo oil inlet. Oil Drain Line: Turbonetics 1/2" NPT Drain Flange - $13.00 1/2" NPT to AN-10 Adapter - $5.60 AN-10 Straight Hose End - $12.36 AN-10 Braided Hose - $10.10 per foot (1 Ft Needed) AN-10 Straight Hose End - $12.36 1/2" NPT to AN-10 Adapter - $5.60 Turbonetics 1/2" NPT Drain Flange - $13.00 Remove old line completely. Fit a Turbonetics NPT drain flange to the turbo with a new gasket and two bolts. Twist on the 1/2" NPT to AN-10 adapter. Fit a Turbonetics NPT drain flange to the block with a new gasket and two bolts. Twist on the 1/2" NPT to AN-10 adapter. Cut AN-10 braided hose to length. Fit an AN-10 straight hose end to each end of the cut hose. Connect each end to the adapters. Coolant Feed Line: AN-6 Braided Hose - $6.60 per foot AN-6 90 Degree Hose End - $20.31 3/8" to AN-6 Adapter - $3.97 Undo hose clamp and remove old hose from block, expose barb fitting. Slip on AN-6 braided hose and clamp in place. Run hose to turbo and mark needed length, cut hose to length. Fit AN-60 90 degree hose end to cut hose at turbo side. Fit 3/8" to AN-6 adapter into the turbo. Connect the hose end to the adapter on the turbo. Coolant Exit line: AN-6 Braided Hose - $6.60 per foot AN-6 45 Degree Hose End - $20.31 3/8" NPT to AN-6 Adapter - $3.97 Undo hose clamp and remove old from the barb fitting up front. Slip on AN-6 braided hose and clamp in place. Run hose to turbo and mark needed length, cut hose to length. Fit AN-60 45 degree hose end to cut hose at turbo side. Fit 3/8" to AN-6 adapter into the turbo. Connect the hose end to the adapter on the turbo. It seems like quite a procedure, but this is also an major upgrade over the stock lines which use gaskets to seal up. The AN fittings never leak and will never fail as gasket do in the stock setup. As for calculating a quick cost. I estimate you will be safe ordering 6 to 8 foot of AN-6 line ($39.60 to $52.80) and 1 foot of AN-10 ($10.10) will do just fine. All these prices are from AM Streetrod on Earl's Alu hose ends and adapters and their best braided hose. I recommend all this equipment highly over stock lines or cobbed up lines. The total I came up with is $209.97 to $223.17 depending on how much AN-6 line you purchase. This may seem expensive, but again I will say that this is a very useful upgrade to the weeping failing stock oil and water lines. From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Tue Aug 6 21:18:10 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Good Deal on H&R Springs Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50E6@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Hey Matt, I just got the revised H&R (Green Springs Part#29921) springs and Bilsteins installed on my 1992 S4...I am told that this springs have 60 lbs less resistance/spring rate then other UrS4 springs offered from H&R...they feel awesome..not too harsh..IMO Cheers cp -----Original Message----- From: Audisport8@aol.com [mailto:Audisport8@aol.com] Sent: Tue 8/6/2002 7:40 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Cc: Subject: [s-cars] Re: Good Deal on H&R Springs -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Sorry to be indecisive- but... Are the Eibach's a little softer than the H&R's? I had H&R/Bilstein setup on my 93 90CS, ouch!! way too harsh for my likes. If so, I probably should go with the softer Eibach's. Thoughts? Matt 93 UrS4 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Tue Aug 6 23:38:13 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5475@NJ_DC_01> Cody: If you can find your way around the keyboard to send this message, there are some of these you can/should do yourself ( marked DIY): RS2 Injectors - 15-30 minutes - DIY RS2 MAF - 10 minutes - DIY RS2 Fuel Pressure Regulator(need depends on software) - 10 minutes -DIY The above are very easy! The rest are somewhat more difficult. I've got a Mitchell labor guide in my office and will revert with book labor hours in the morning: RS2 or Garrett K26/T04 Turbo - Med Hard - Oil/Coolant Lines to Turbo (only if Garrett) - RS2 Exhaust Manifold - Med Hard RS2 Exhaust Cam - Med regards, Bob From mungerts at yahoo.com Tue Aug 6 20:54:28 2002 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? In-Reply-To: <20020807024018.64A655E1@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20020807025428.28771.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> After several weeks of waiting, I finally took ownership of a *beautiful* '93 black urS4 today! My neighbor thought I was taking delivery of a brand new car! (Granted, they new nothing of Audi's ;-)) And now for my first parts question ... My accelerator pedal is busted (the black surface piece apparently has snapped off) pn# 4A1 721 511 A How do you remove the whole pedal? I'll need to rig up a dental mirror to see the fasteners... Is it in the Bentley CD? Should I bother replacing it (if so, where can I order it) or should I put in aluminum pedals? Anyone have or know where to get pedals of similar size/fitment of the OE pedals? TIA, --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com From tbellwood at msn.com Tue Aug 6 22:27:28 2002 From: tbellwood at msn.com (Todd Bellwood) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? In-Reply-To: <20020807025428.28771.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001101c23dc2$5c3397b0$0200000a@jed> I broke mine the first week with an overzealous tromp on the 5 year old pedal. While I was searching for replacement & contemplating a new one i got used to it and liked it. Tod -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Scott Munger Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:54 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? After several weeks of waiting, I finally took ownership of a *beautiful* '93 black urS4 today! My neighbor thought I was taking delivery of a brand new car! (Granted, they new nothing of Audi's ;-)) And now for my first parts question ... My accelerator pedal is busted (the black surface piece apparently has snapped off) pn# 4A1 721 511 A How do you remove the whole pedal? I'll need to rig up a dental mirror to see the fasteners... Is it in the Bentley CD? Should I bother replacing it (if so, where can I order it) or should I put in aluminum pedals? Anyone have or know where to get pedals of similar size/fitment of the OE pedals? TIA, --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From rpecsar at pacbell.net Tue Aug 6 21:43:47 2002 From: rpecsar at pacbell.net (Rob Pecsar) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Audi photo contest Message-ID: <3D509773.7D5253DF@pacbell.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Spotted an Audi photo contest...some good, some painful: http://www.photoshopcontest.com/results.php?forum=256 -- From mlped at qwest.net Tue Aug 6 23:17:40 2002 From: mlped at qwest.net (mlp) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion In-Reply-To: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50E3@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: Cody - As far as I know, there is no "RS2" intercooler for the UrS4/6's. Different body, different plumbing requirements, I think. Second, I don't know that anyone has determined for "sure" just exactly how much additional air & or efficiency the Audi OEM RS2 piece in fact offers, if any, over the OEM UrS4/6 intercooler ~even on something like an Apples to Oranges comparison basis. As one faction of Italians (the ones from the North, I think) is often overheard arguing with the Italian Stallions from the South, "Hey, size isn't everything." Someone, somewhere in the past has probably posted the "gross" physical core dimensions for the RS2 (i.e., core height, width & thickness.) Maybe even some of the "net" internal flow features &/or capacity (core construction, area open to charge air passage, characteristics of charge air flow channels (open, moderately choked with turbulators, hapersized turbulatored, etc.) FWIW, your stock UrS4 core is, roughly, - 3.75" thick by 9" tall by 11.5" long - That works out to a "gross" charge air face area of @ 33.75 inch^2 (9x3.75) of which typically, @ 1/3rd is actually open or available for use (see below) - A cool air entry face of @ 104 inch^2 (11.5 x 9) - Inside that box are 15 rows of two "tubes" each in which the pressurized charge air is cooled. IMO only, those row are let's say "moderately" turbulated. No science or even broad experience behind the "IMO", other than I've seen both cores in the buff, and I'd say "moderately" mostly by comparison to the Hapersized units construction, which looks to me like its got a fair number extra little aluminum corrugations stuffed in its channels. I suppose I ought to get a "Finns" per inch count, but I hate to bring the Northern Europeans into something like this when there are already Italians involve. - In the more speculative "higher" math area, I calculate (roughly) that each tube in the stock IC offers about a 7mm (0.275") tall by 38 to 39mm (say 1.525") opening for the intake air to work its way through to the pistons ~> say an area of @ 12.5 to 13 inches^2 for the charge to enter, run through, cool off and then get collected up by the end tank and funneled on its way to your throttle body via a 2.1" ID outlet (that is if I've correctly read my old notes on this. Somewhere I wrote down the IC Inlet is @ 2.75"OD/2.45" ID, and the outlet @ 2.34"OD/2.09" ID.) - So, if I've not got any numbers scrambled, or screwed up any of my multiplication etc., you'll have your intake air "exiting" from @ 12.5 to 13 square inches of IC charge air tube in to the end tank which then squeezes that cooled air back down and substantially speeds it back up to exit the end tank via about a @ 3.4 square inch IC to throttle body feed tube. Before you jump on an RS2 solution, I think you need to find out in what areas, if any does the RS2 intercooler improve on any of the above. FWIW, in my opinion, the stock IC seems to be a pretty good unit. I'm thinking Hans und Fritz at the factory did a difficult to improve upon job with the design, fabrication and set up of the stock IC end tanks etc. HTH mlp ~-----Original Message----- ~From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com ~[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Cody Payne ~Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:04 PM ~To: s-car-list@audifans.com ~Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion ~ ~ ~Gents, ~ Need labor estimates for RS2 Conversion? ~ ~- RS2 or Garrett K26/T04 Turbo - Med Hard ~- RS2 Injectors - Easy ~- RS2 MAF - Easy ~- Exhaust Cam - Med ~- RS2 Exhaust Manifold - Med Hard ~- Oil/Coolant Lines to Turbo- Med Hard ~- RS2 Fuel Pressure Regulator- ?? ~ As the Northern Italians say to defeat the Southern "size is everything" crowd, " - IC end tanks to Hose to TB,... VERY, very Hard." :-) ~ ~ ~I figure around 10 or less hours done by a professional? ~ ~Also how important is upgrading the Intercooler with the RS2 ~conversion? Is the RS2 Intercooler bolt-on? Or just better to go ~with 3rd Party like Hap's TEC? ~ ~ ~ ~Thx ~ ~cp ~ ~_______________________________________________ ~S-CAR-List mailing list ~S-CAR-List@audifans.com ~http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ~ ~ From ken377lx at 4dv.net Tue Aug 6 23:29:47 2002 From: ken377lx at 4dv.net (Ken Lanham) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S6 T belt and tools.... Message-ID: <3D50A23B.1080102@4dv.net> I have done timing belt changes on the older 5 cylinder engines, and I have the crank pulley holding tool used for them. The tool I have is the 2084 tool. It rests aganst the front motor mount on the 4000,5000 chassis and holds the pulley while you loosen the crank bolt. I am preparing for the t-belt change on an S6 now. The Bentley shows a different crank holding tool. Can I use the tool I have already? Anyone know? -Ken (the one who works on turbo audi's but doesn't own one) From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 01:42:07 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002a01c23dcc$c965a620$0d42fea9@newpc> Very different plumbing for the RS2- much more like my 3B engine in that regard than the AAN. The IC in the RS2 is front-mounted in the big "mouth" of the bumper- ideal location compared to that of the UrS. I don't know how much of an improvement it really is quantitatively, though. The location of the IC in the UrS looks far from ideal- has anyone flow-tested the car to see how much air can get to the IC? Taka From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 01:54:27 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Heat wave is over.....car feels very strong! In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5473@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <002d01c23dce$82bfa430$0d42fea9@newpc> Bob, My car sees about the same vacuum readings, although it goes to about 25 inches when shutting the throttle from over 4000 rpm. I just gave it some Japanese luck, that's all. Mix in a little bit of Japanese w/ some Italian into some German electronics and it's all good. Time for some Russian Vodka- need a source for Russian Standard or something equally good. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Pastore Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:59 PM To: S-Car-List Subject: [s-cars] Heat wave is over.....car feels very strong! On the East Coast we've had a few weeks of straight high 90 degree days with very high humidity -- the sort of day that makes your turbo car feel slow. The heat wave broke today, and we had mid to low 80's, with low humidity. Driving home, my car felt exceptionally strong. At first I thought it was just the change in weather, but then I noticed it was pulling 20 inches of vacuum on my boost gauge at idle. This is by far the highest idle reading I've seen on my car(s), with 17 inches being "normal", and anything 15 inches or below resulting in a noticable decrease in performance. At 15 inches, I'll generally find a vacuum leak that will bring me back to 17". There seems to a direct correlation between vacuum readings and HP. Any ideas on how/why the sudden increase in vacuum and HP, and what might cause it (so I can keep it this way!!!!)For those with boost guages, what vacuum readings do you see as "normal"? Bob _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From S4quat at aol.com Wed Aug 7 01:55:53 2002 From: S4quat at aol.com (S4quat@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Hood for a 92 S4 needed Message-ID: <123.14910de7.2a820259@aol.com> This morning a delivery truck decided to back up and crush the hood on my 92 S4. Huge bummer. Luckily no other damage. No one saw it happen and he took off. So if anyone knows of a good used one(Black) or another source, it would be much appreciated. Thanks. Michael 92 S4 From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 01:56:22 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] A big THANK YOU to Bob Pastore In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5472@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <002e01c23dce$c72f0520$0d42fea9@newpc> Let me clarify: Type 44 post-facelift 100 and 200 circuit boards are interchangeable. C4 100 and S4 circuit boards are interchangeable. C4 boards do not work in type 44s and vice-versa. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pastore [mailto:rpastore@animalfeeds.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 8:39 PM To: 'TM'; S-Car-List Cc: 200q20v Mailing List Subject: RE: [s-cars] A big THANK YOU to Bob Pastore Taka: We probably reversed the two bulbs with the condoms on them when swapping the boards. Also, re main boards: I think we determined that a c4 S4 main board was different than the type 44 100 or 200. The 100 and 200 had different part numbers but were visually the same and proved to be interchangable. Bob -----Original Message----- From: TM [mailto:t44tq@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 7:40 PM To: S-Car-List Cc: 200q20v Mailing List Subject: [s-cars] A big THANK YOU to Bob Pastore Thanks to the generosity of Bob Pastore, my car's instrument cluster has been fixed! :-) Happy, happy! One thing we've learned in doing some serious surgery to my cluster- Type 44 100 ICs use a compatible main circuit board to my 200q20v. I know this was told to me in the case of using a C4 100 board in an UrS4, but not w/ regard to type 44s. Now I know that the type 44 boards work. Funny thing is, my original cluster had problems anyway- full tank of gas, 1400+ miles to empty?!? Nearly empty tank of gas, still 600+ miles to empty. Now, the mileage indications are correct, as well as temperature and everything else. One thing I messed up- the clock and trip computer illumination is somehow reversed- it's dark when the lights are on, bright when the lights are off. I don't mind it being bright w/ the lights off, but I can't read the readouts with the lights on. Any ideas on what bulbs/connections need to be reversed? Taka _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From calvinlc at earthlink.net Wed Aug 7 00:16:25 2002 From: calvinlc at earthlink.net (Calvin & Diana Craig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:31 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion In-Reply-To: <002a01c23dcc$c965a620$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: The only thing I can say here, Taka, is that when I do hard run after hard run on my '91 200 or for that matter my '89 200 (same boost as my S4) the intercoolers are much cooler than the IC in my '92 S4 which will steam water almost instantly. Usually your intuition is right. --Calvin -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of TM Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:42 PM To: 'mlp'; 'Cody Payne'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion Very different plumbing for the RS2- much more like my 3B engine in that regard than the AAN. The IC in the RS2 is front-mounted in the big "mouth" of the bumper- ideal location compared to that of the UrS. I don't know how much of an improvement it really is quantitatively, though. The location of the IC in the UrS looks far from ideal- has anyone flow-tested the car to see how much air can get to the IC? Taka _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From ravensmith at adelphia.net Tue Aug 6 23:38:38 2002 From: ravensmith at adelphia.net (Eric's E-Mail) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Aluminiun mirriors!! Cool! Message-ID: <002b01c23dd4$b44e0bd0$6b01a8c0@ericspc> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Me want! Any idea how much these would cost from the dealer? I'm guessing over $200 Eric Message: 8 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 19:18:44 -0600 From: "Chad Clark" To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] factory aluminum mirror housings on e-bay Had someone mentioned the desire for these recently? Looks like they may even fit my '92 but would NOT look good on a pearl car IMO. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849223240&r=0 &t=0 Also, look at the bottom of the page, can you get an A8/S8 any lower?!?!? HTH, Chad Clark -- From aaront at cox-internet.com Wed Aug 7 08:37:53 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? References: <20020806235554.1111.qmail@web10906.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D5122B1.2010705@cox-internet.com> I used to to quite a bit of shock design and tuning for motorcycles (and bicycles) and I can tell you this would not be a straight forward task. A better route might be to find a shock with external damping adjusters and do some seat of the pants tweeking. Aaron jeff posto wrote: >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >Taka, >This seems like a great mechanical design challenge for Igor K!! >A mass-spring-damper type of dynamics problem. >What you ask for is fundamentally correct, because I would think, a 'lite' damper (shock) coupled with a stiff spring would be non-optimal. In the words of an ME, underdamped. >The question is: how would you specify the valving to be correct?, even if you DID find a vendor to do it. >JP > TM wrote:Just wondering- our A4 w/ H&R coilovers is quite >stiff, but the ride is _excellent_ for a lowered, >stiffer suspension setup. > >My 200 in comparison crashes over bumps. Wondering >if anyone has gotten custom valved Bilsteins to match >exactly with your springs and if that would make a >big enough difference or not. > >Taka > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >--------------------------------- >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From aaront at cox-internet.com Wed Aug 7 08:42:43 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? References: <20020807025428.28771.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D5123D3.2040906@cox-internet.com> I ended up replacing mine which was broken when I bought my car. I like the feel of the non broken pedal better. The extra hinge gives it a smoother more progressive feel. Not to mention more comfy on the bare feet! Its worth doing. Aaron Scott Munger wrote: >After several weeks of waiting, I finally took >ownership of a *beautiful* '93 black urS4 today! My >neighbor thought I was taking delivery of a brand new >car! (Granted, they new nothing of Audi's ;-)) > >And now for my first parts question ... >My accelerator pedal is busted (the black surface >piece apparently has snapped off) > pn# 4A1 721 511 A > >How do you remove the whole pedal? I'll need to rig >up a dental mirror to see the fasteners... Is it in >the Bentley CD? > >Should I bother replacing it (if so, where can I order >it) or should I put in aluminum pedals? Anyone have >or know where to get pedals of similar size/fitment of >the OE pedals? > >TIA, >--Scott > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes >http://autos.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Wed Aug 7 08:57:26 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Car Wont Start This AM..Help Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A734B@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Hey Guys, My 1992 S4 does not want to start this AM. It was working fine last night from work. Car just cranks and cranks but I hear no ignition. Troubleshooting Suggestions? Going to go and check for spark now... Help Thx cp From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Wed Aug 7 11:05:26 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5478@NJ_DC_01> Per Mitchell Guide: Turbo + pipes = 4.6 hours Exhaust Manifold = 3.6 hours Cam -- I don't have listing. Also, the operations are listed separately, and I'm sure the 3.6 for the EM overlaps the 4.6 for the Turbo/Lines. Turbo alone R&I is 2.8, so if you added .8 for R&I a Stock ME, then (??guess??) double it for the rs2 (cutting some studs to shorten them, then some very difficult nuts under the manifold) you'd be 2.8+1.6+1.8(lines) = 6.2 hours for the turbo/EM change. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Cody Payne [mailto:Cody.Payne@bconnected.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2002 10:42 PM To: Robert Pastore Subject: RE: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion Thanks Bob...let me know what you find out on the other hours. cp PS- I know the keyboard very well...I dont even have to look at the keys ;-) Cheers -----Original Message----- From: Robert Pastore [mailto:rpastore@animalfeeds.com] Sent: Tue 8/6/2002 8:38 PM To: Cody Payne; s-car-list@audifans.com Cc: Subject: RE: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion Cody: If you can find your way around the keyboard to send this message, there are some of these you can/should do yourself ( marked DIY): RS2 Injectors - 15-30 minutes - DIY RS2 MAF - 10 minutes - DIY RS2 Fuel Pressure Regulator(need depends on software) - 10 minutes -DIY The above are very easy! The rest are somewhat more difficult. I've got a Mitchell labor guide in my office and will revert with book labor hours in the morning: RS2 or Garrett K26/T04 Turbo - Med Hard - Oil/Coolant Lines to Turbo (only if Garrett) - RS2 Exhaust Manifold - Med Hard RS2 Exhaust Cam - Med regards, Bob From munrof at sympatico.ca Wed Aug 7 11:16:03 2002 From: munrof at sympatico.ca (Fred Munro) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S6 T belt and tools.... Message-ID: <01C23DFB.772FC460.munrof@sympatico.ca> There's nothing for the 2084 tool to rest against on the AAN engine, Ken. The proper tool bolts to the block. Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: Ken Lanham [SMTP:ken377lx@4dv.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 12:30 AM To: s-car-list Subject: [s-cars] S6 T belt and tools.... I have done timing belt changes on the older 5 cylinder engines, and I have the crank pulley holding tool used for them. The tool I have is the 2084 tool. It rests aganst the front motor mount on the 4000,5000 chassis and holds the pulley while you loosen the crank bolt. I am preparing for the t-belt change on an S6 now. The Bentley shows a different crank holding tool. Can I use the tool I have already? Anyone know? -Ken (the one who works on turbo audi's but doesn't own one) _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Wed Aug 7 11:18:03 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Car Wont Start This AM..Help Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5479@NJ_DC_01> Cody: The design of the ignition system makes no spark unlikely. Only a blown fuse (see #2), broken ground, or a bad ECU will result in no spark. Otherwise, 5 coils or 2 POS's would need to go bad at the same time -not likely. 4 most likely candidates: 1) Fuel Pump -- Check fuse (#17?). Jump relay to see if pump is running. Easiest way to do this is to pry cover off of relay. (position #6, under dash panel near drivers left knee) 2) Fuse for Motronic -- Check fuses that sit on the plastic bar above the ECU. 3) Cam Position Sensor -- Will through a code if bad. Pull codes 4) Crank or RPM sensor -- Will through a code if bad. Pull codes Bob -----Original Message----- From: Cody Payne [mailto:Cody.Payne@bconnected.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 9:57 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Car Wont Start This AM..Help Hey Guys, My 1992 S4 does not want to start this AM. It was working fine last night from work. Car just cranks and cranks but I hear no ignition. Troubleshooting Suggestions? Going to go and check for spark now... Help Thx cp _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Wed Aug 7 09:39:39 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Car Wont Start This AM..Help Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A734F@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Appears to be bad fuel pump..removed inlet to fuel pump turned over car..no gas came out at all. Checked fuse and fuse is good..having car towed now ;-( cp -----Original Message----- From: Cody Payne Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 7:57 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Car Wont Start This AM..Help Hey Guys, My 1992 S4 does not want to start this AM. It was working fine last night from work. Car just cranks and cranks but I hear no ignition. Troubleshooting Suggestions? Going to go and check for spark now... Help Thx cp _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mplatt911 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 09:13:51 2002 From: mplatt911 at yahoo.com (Mike Platt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? Message-ID: <20020807151351.82144.qmail@web12508.mail.yahoo.com> I took a suggestion of another lister and bought a small hinge from a hardware store. I attached it at the factory hinge point to the accelerator(with 2 small nuts and bolts) and mounting base(with supplied screws). You can see the two small bolts on the pedal but it worked slick and I still have that nice spring action. 3 months and no problems. Total cost: $1.65! Or you can pay Audi the $70 for the whole unit. Mike Platt 95.5 S6 avant 75 Carrera Targa 74 914 2.0 After several weeks of waiting, I finally took ownership of a *beautiful* '93 black urS4 today! My neighbor thought I was taking delivery of a brand new car! (Granted, they new nothing of Audi's ;-)) And now for my first parts question ... My accelerator pedal is busted (the black surface piece apparently has snapped off) pn# 4A1 721 511 A How do you remove the whole pedal? I'll need to rig up a dental mirror to see the fasteners... Is it in the Bentley CD? Should I bother replacing it (if so, where can I order it) or should I put in aluminum pedals? Anyone have or know where to get pedals of similar size/fitment of the OE pedals? TIA, __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From audis8 at online.no Wed Aug 7 19:03:18 2002 From: audis8 at online.no (Jan Nielsen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Engine question..(S6 2.2) Message-ID: <3D541EE1@epostleser.online.no> Hey! my car is still not running, not that i've tried that much to get it running either.. it kinda sucks to work on the car when its nice and sunny outside=) But i got the cam shafts removed today, and they look good, i am wondering if some of my valve lifters(forgot what the real word for it is) is worn out.. is there anyway that you can see if they are busted? i took them all out but couldnt find anything special just by looking on them.. As some of you might remember my car was not firering propperly on syll nr 2 and the compression is a bit lower than it should be on that syll... So what i am thinking of doing tomorrow is replacing lifters from syll 5 with those in syll nr 2 and then mount everything back... JUST to get another kompression test and se if there is any difference.. if not, i'l start the "smal" jobb of changing the piston rings this weekend.. =) Regards Jan Norway From aaront at cox-internet.com Wed Aug 7 11:34:02 2002 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Engine question..(S6 2.2) References: <3D541EE1@epostleser.online.no> Message-ID: <3D514BFA.5060800@cox-internet.com> Jan I would suspect the valve seats before piston rings. Are you familier with the trick of adding a little oil inside the suspect cylinder before the compression test? If you get a higher compression reading after adding a little oil then it is likely a ring problem. If there is no difference then mabe valve seat. The thin coating of oil will help a poorly sealing pistion ring and create a higher compression reading. Good Luck Aaron Jan Nielsen wrote: >Hey! my car is still not running, not that i've tried that much to get it >running either.. it kinda sucks to work on the car when its nice and sunny >outside=) > >But i got the cam shafts removed today, and they look good, i am wondering if >some of my valve lifters(forgot what the real word for it is) is worn out.. is >there anyway that you can see if they are busted? i took them all out but >couldnt find anything special just by looking on them.. > >As some of you might remember my car was not firering propperly on syll nr 2 >and the compression is a bit lower than it should be on that syll... > >So what i am thinking of doing tomorrow is replacing lifters from syll 5 with >those in syll nr 2 and then mount everything back... JUST to get another >kompression test and se if there is any difference.. if not, i'l start the >"smal" jobb of changing the piston rings this weekend.. =) > >Regards > >Jan > >Norway > > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From dohnal at hevanet.com Wed Aug 7 10:40:48 2002 From: dohnal at hevanet.com (Wayne Dohnal) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? Message-ID: <002b01c23e31$31588680$7ba45e82@dohnal> Congratulations on your new car! As another lister eloquently pointed out sometime in the past, this part has a 100% failure rate! It is not a fine example of German engineering. There are a few other things that will fail on you. I was hit with all of the little red lights in the switches, and a seat heater element. Other than these annoyances the car is solid and a joy to own. (Another thing I try to remember to tell new owners is to check the spark plug torque RIGHT NOW. They plugs have a habit of coming loose, and can blow out of the head causing much misery in the process. When I got my car, I could turn 3 of the plugs with my fingers). On the gas pedal, the whole thing, including the rod to the top of the footwell, is a single assembly. You remove it by popping the accelerator cable off the top of the rod (friction fit, just push it off the top), and removing the circlip at the hinge point. When taking it off, I think you can pull it off the hinge first, making it easer to get to the cable at the top Once you've done it, it's a 5-minute off and 5-minute on operation.. Being an anal cheapskate, I also repaired mine with a hinge, using pop-rivets instead of screws. Wayne Dohnal 1994 S4 (blk/blk) >After several weeks of waiting, I finally took >ownership of a *beautiful* '93 black urS4 today! My >neighbor thought I was taking delivery of a brand new >car! (Granted, they new nothing of Audi's ;-)) > >And now for my first parts question ... >My accelerator pedal is busted (the black surface >piece apparently has snapped off) > pn# 4A1 721 511 A > >How do you remove the whole pedal? I'll need to rig >up a dental mirror to see the fasteners... Is it in >the Bentley CD? > >Should I bother replacing it (if so, where can I order >it) or should I put in aluminum pedals? Anyone have >or know where to get pedals of similar size/fitment of >the OE pedals? > >TIA, >--Scott From vfugman at globaldialog.com Wed Aug 7 13:04:26 2002 From: vfugman at globaldialog.com (Varon H. Fugman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area Message-ID: Was there any conclusion as to the cause of a fuel smell outside the back seat area of the car after driving? My car is doing this now. Smell is strongest near the right rear passenger door, although doesn't seem to be localized to fuel filler. Where should I look? Varon '95 urS6 From wmahoney at disk.com Wed Aug 7 13:03:18 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Roof Rack Powder Coating Source Message-ID: <3D5152D5.29CEED1F@disk.com> http://www.powderperfect.com/ Just got my roof rack back from this company with satin black powder coating. Looks damn nice :) So, I'm recommending to any fellow go fast Avant sicko's willing to spend the $50. I havent installed yet but I believe the car will butt dyno out much faster with this mod! This is an easy uninstall and car will resemble Darth Maull while the mounting points are exposed for a week or so while awaiting roof rack return. A good shipping crate was a $6 vinyl downspout from Sears hardware. Cheers' Bill m 95 1/2 Avant -with a "nice rack!" 75 Carrera ps and thanks Taka for recommending the powder coat vs anodize solution. From mungerts at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 11:16:59 2002 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? In-Reply-To: <20020807161233.BC80F6A7@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20020807171659.64431.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> > action. 3 months and no problems. Total cost: $1.65! > Or you can pay Audi the $70 for the whole unit. Hmmm, $70 for a part guaranteed to break... sounds like a great deal! I think I'll engineer a rivet/screw fix; I do like the spring action :-) --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From pramtt at pacbell.net Wed Aug 7 11:19:03 2002 From: pramtt at pacbell.net (Pram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? In-Reply-To: <001201c23da0$3b2afd50$0d42fea9@newpc> Message-ID: Taka: I had the front pair of my ABT/Bilstein shock custom valved by Bilstein in San Diego. It is stiffer than initially as it comes from Jo Hoppen. I like it as it makes the car corner flatter and overall gives better feedback. Pram 92S4 On Tuesday, August 6, 2002, at 04:23 PM, TM wrote: > Just wondering- our A4 w/ H&R coilovers is quite > stiff, but the ride is _excellent_ for a lowered, > stiffer suspension setup. > > My 200 in comparison crashes over bumps. Wondering > if anyone has gotten custom valved Bilsteins to match > exactly with your springs and if that would make a > big enough difference or not. > > Taka > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From HoosierMP at aol.com Wed Aug 7 14:28:16 2002 From: HoosierMP at aol.com (HoosierMP@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? Message-ID: <156.1212ed68.2a82b2b0@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 8/6/2002 6:32:08 PM US Eastern Standard Time, t44tq@mindspring.com writes: > Just wondering- our A4 w/ H&R coilovers is quite > stiff, but the ride is _excellent_ for a lowered, > stiffer suspension setup. > > My 200 in comparison crashes over bumps. Wondering > if anyone has gotten custom valved Bilsteins to match > exactly with your springs and if that would make a > big enough difference or not. > > My 93 Canadian spec S4 (92 springs) with yellow Bilsteins rides much better than my lowered A4. I am assuming the '92 springs are not available? IMO they are the "hot tip" they also lower the car a good 25 mm over the later springs. Richard From wmahoney at disk.com Wed Aug 7 13:34:28 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II Message-ID: <3D515A24.47311D53@disk.com> Bob FWIW, I must be half fast as it took me more than 12hrs :) And if I had had to make all three custom wrenches another couple hours. As a now experienced EM installer, I am sure I could do it mucho faster. First time I tried to be real methodical. Cutting the bolts was a breeze w/Dremel cut off wheel.. Measure 3 times cut once. A real fun memory:) Cheers' Bill m From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Wed Aug 7 14:44:34 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C547C@NJ_DC_01> Bill: I was just giving "book" hours for OEM R&I. How much of the 12 hrs was spent looking for that little metal clip that disappeared? On beer breaks? On working the wrong end of the turbo oil line? None of it matters anyway -- you did it and the car runs like an Andersen accountant runs from "Bubba", his new cellmate. BTW, back to 17 inches of vacuum today....Taka's Japanese magic only lasted 1 day. I need to bring him with me to a dyno day. Bob -----Original Message----- From: wmahoney@disk.com [mailto:wmahoney@disk.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:34 PM To: rpastore@animalfeeds.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II Bob FWIW, I must be half fast as it took me more than 12hrs :) And if I had had to make all three custom wrenches another couple hours. As a now experienced EM installer, I am sure I could do it mucho faster. First time I tried to be real methodical. Cutting the bolts was a breeze w/Dremel cut off wheel.. Measure 3 times cut once. A real fun memory:) Cheers' Bill m From dbpulvino at hotmail.com Wed Aug 7 12:07:25 2002 From: dbpulvino at hotmail.com (Derek Pulvino) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor Message-ID: Let me know if you find anything out. I've had the same intermitent fault on my car (91 200), and found the same conditions as you when I looked further into it. For the 200's, some have suggested and had success with cleaning the business end of the sensor with carb cleaner or the like. Didn't work for me. Derek P Message: 14 From: "Matt Russell" To: s-car-list@audifans.com Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 02:06:03 +0000 Subject: [s-cars] Intake air temperature sensor Hi- My s4 has been throwing the 2322 code over the last month. It seems to be intermitent. I have checked the sensor and wiring at the ECU per Bentley, and I'm getting good values sometimes, and bad at other times. This link details two common connection problems with the sensor, however it's applicable to the 91 20v motor. http://www.SJMAutoTechnik.COM/20vairt.html Does the AAN have a problem with this as well? Does anyone know of a remedy or a known place I can check to see if this may be the problem with my car? TIA, -Matt, CT _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From pramtt at pacbell.net Wed Aug 7 12:21:30 2002 From: pramtt at pacbell.net (Pram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Anyone get custom-valved shocks? In-Reply-To: <102.19516660.2a82b429@aol.com> Message-ID: <7E8F0AE0-AA32-11D6-9937-0003937177F0@pacbell.net> Guys: This happened quite a while ago. Another UrS4 owner (Jorg) talked to Lou Lorenzano in Bilstein San Diego wrt revalving the Bilstein. Based on his description and the Bilstein database, Lou recommended a set-up for Jorg. Jorg likes it immediately. I tried Jorg's car and I like it too. So I simply asked Bilstein to revalve my shocks to the same spec as Jorg's spec. I believe currently, Lou Lorenzano is in different department (R&D) but he still can direct you to the correct person that can help you with revalving the Bilstein. I believe, they charged me $60/side for the revalve job. HTH, Pram 92S4 On Wednesday, August 7, 2002, at 10:34 AM, CaptMagu@aol.com wrote: > Pram > > Do you have the specs on what the valving was on those fronts? Thanks. > > Hap > From tedebearp at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 12:33:29 2002 From: tedebearp at yahoo.com (Theodore Chen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Turbo Oil and Coolant Line Specs for Garett K26/T04E In-Reply-To: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C3F50E5@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: <20020807183329.99496.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> consider combining the NPT to AN adapters with the AN hose ends. earl's sells NPT hose ends that will attach directly to AN hose, so you can eliminate a connection (which saves money and reduces the number of failure points). also, 6AN seems a little small for the oil feed line, but i suppose the turbo doesn't take much oil. but why is the oil drain line so big? is there oil from somewhere else going in there, too? i agree - it's worth it to use braided stainless steel hose. it's dirt cheap compared to the cost of repairing your engine if the hoses blow (which is a distinct possibility with rubber hoses). -teddy --- Cody Payne wrote: > Gents, > Received some great information from Alex at > http://www.euro-audi-parts.com in regards to oil and coolant lines needed for > Garrett K26/T04E turbo in a UrS4...see below: > > > Oil Feed Line: > Tap the filter housing with 1/8" NPT > 1/8" NPT to AN-6 Adapter - $3.19 > AN-6 120 Degree Hose End - $23.10 > AN-6 Braided Hose - $6.60 per foot > AN-6 90 Degree Hose End - $20.31 > 1/8" NPT to AN-6 Adapter - $3.19 > > Remove the stock oil feed line from oil filter housing. Tap to 1/8" NPT. > Fit the 1/8" NPT to AN-6 adapter. Measure AN-6 line from the oil filter > bracket to the turbo oil inlet. Cut braided hose to length. Fit the 120 > degree and 90 degree hose ends to the cut hose. Connect the 120 degree end > to the adapter at the oil filter bracket. Twist on the second 1/8" to AN-6 > adapter to the turbo oil inlet. Connect the 90 degree hose end to the > adapter on the turbo oil inlet. > > > Oil Drain Line: > Turbonetics 1/2" NPT Drain Flange - $13.00 > 1/2" NPT to AN-10 Adapter - $5.60 > AN-10 Straight Hose End - $12.36 > AN-10 Braided Hose - $10.10 per foot (1 Ft Needed) > AN-10 Straight Hose End - $12.36 > 1/2" NPT to AN-10 Adapter - $5.60 > Turbonetics 1/2" NPT Drain Flange - $13.00 > > Remove old line completely. Fit a Turbonetics NPT drain flange to the turbo > with a new gasket and two bolts. Twist on the 1/2" NPT to AN-10 adapter. > Fit a Turbonetics NPT drain flange to the block with a new gasket and two > bolts. Twist on the 1/2" NPT to AN-10 adapter. Cut AN-10 braided hose to > length. Fit an AN-10 straight hose end to each end of the cut hose. > Connect each end to the adapters. > > > Coolant Feed Line: > AN-6 Braided Hose - $6.60 per foot > AN-6 90 Degree Hose End - $20.31 > 3/8" to AN-6 Adapter - $3.97 > > Undo hose clamp and remove old hose from block, expose barb fitting. Slip > on AN-6 braided hose and clamp in place. Run hose to turbo and mark needed > length, cut hose to length. Fit AN-60 90 degree hose end to cut hose at > turbo side. Fit 3/8" to AN-6 adapter into the turbo. Connect the hose end > to the adapter on the turbo. > > > Coolant Exit line: > AN-6 Braided Hose - $6.60 per foot > AN-6 45 Degree Hose End - $20.31 > 3/8" NPT to AN-6 Adapter - $3.97 > > Undo hose clamp and remove old from the barb fitting up front. Slip on AN-6 > braided hose and clamp in place. Run hose to turbo and mark needed length, > cut hose to length. Fit AN-60 45 degree hose end to cut hose at turbo side. > Fit 3/8" to AN-6 adapter into the turbo. Connect the hose end to the > adapter on the turbo. > > It seems like quite a procedure, but this is also an major upgrade over > the stock lines which use gaskets to seal up. The AN fittings never leak > and will never fail as gasket do in the stock setup. > > As for calculating a quick cost. I estimate you will be safe ordering 6 > to 8 foot of AN-6 line ($39.60 to $52.80) and 1 foot of AN-10 ($10.10) will > do just fine. All these prices are from AM Streetrod on Earl's Alu hose > ends and adapters and their best braided hose. I recommend all this > equipment highly over stock lines or cobbed up lines. The total I came up > with is $209.97 to $223.17 depending on how much AN-6 line you purchase. > This may seem expensive, but again I will say that this is a very useful > upgrade to the weeping failing stock oil and water lines. > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From flhuillier at siebel.com Wed Aug 7 12:46:10 2002 From: flhuillier at siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Qusestion regarding the Eibach Spacer Message-ID: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AB48@parhqexm01.siebel.com> Hi, I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as Koni shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the ride is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from the list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix it. I am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach distributor here in Paris. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Frederic From JShadzi at aol.com Wed Aug 7 15:48:23 2002 From: JShadzi at aol.com (JShadzi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Turbo Oil and Coolant Line Specs for Garett K26/T04E Message-ID: <58D38743.0698A6A8.0016D39D@aol.com> >also, 6AN seems a little small for the oil feed line, but i suppose >the turbo doesn't take much oil. Its actually quite overkill, most factory Garrett applications use -4 at the most, the stock KKK oil line is approx. -6, but the KKK turbos have a restrictor in the top of the oil inlet. >?but why is the oil drain line so >big? ?is there oil from somewhere else going in there, too? The oil drain line is not really under pressure, and the last thing you want is oil pressurizing in the outlet and blocking the oil flow through the center section. -10 is about 3/4", and so is (approx) the stock Audi oil outlet hose, so its not very big at all. Javad From lee at wheelman.com Wed Aug 7 15:54:29 2002 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Roof Rack Powder Coating Source In-Reply-To: <3D5152D5.29CEED1F@disk.com> Message-ID: Bill writes: > > > http://www.powderperfect.com/ > Just got my roof rack back from this company with satin black powder > coating. > Looks damn nice :) Sorry Bill, I'm going with a local shop. The sales assistant pictured on the home page rides a really nice bike :) http://www.prismpowderusa.com/home.htm Lee From jpostup at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 12:58:40 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020807185840.10960.qmail@web10901.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Varon, I think your gas tank may be leaking.. See any wet spots at the seams? JP "Varon H. Fugman" wrote:Was there any conclusion as to the cause of a fuel smell outside the back seat area of the car after driving? My car is doing this now. Smell is strongest near the right rear passenger door, although doesn't seem to be localized to fuel filler. Where should I look? Varon '95 urS6 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better From flhuillier at siebel.com Wed Aug 7 13:14:27 2002 From: flhuillier at siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area Message-ID: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AB4A@parhqexm01.siebel.com> Be very carefull, the battery is also located under the rear seat !!!!! I know one french UrS4 which went on fire while being at the Ingolstadt factory parking lot because the battery was in contact with the rear seat frame. You should have seen the Audi people reaction !!!! Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: jeff posto [mailto:jpostup@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:59 PM To: Varon H. Fugman; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Varon, I think your gas tank may be leaking.. See any wet spots at the seams? JP "Varon H. Fugman" wrote:Was there any conclusion as to the cause of a fuel smell outside the back seat area of the car after driving? My car is doing this now. Smell is strongest near the right rear passenger door, although doesn't seem to be localized to fuel filler. Where should I look? Varon '95 urS6 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jpostup at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 13:16:05 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Question regarding the Eibach Spacer In-Reply-To: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AB48@parhqexm01.siebel.com> Message-ID: <20020807191605.22641.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey there, I just talked to US Eibach technical support. For the Pro Kit 1529.140 the plot thickens.. I explained the rear spacer we are seeking to raise the rear about 10mm. Tech says..he recalls a special case with this S4 type, and he sees a note, " for this kit, front springs are too tall, therefore recommend P/N 1528.140 in front, (rear springs are the same) PLUS add P/N 1529F Perch to the front dampers to raise the car to level." This is not what I expected, so He transferred me to the Eibach TechLine, where I deposited a voicemail. Frederic, call Paris Eibach and determine what you can learn. Jeff Frederic L'Huillier wrote:Hi, I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as Koni shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the ride is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from the list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix it. I am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach distributor here in Paris. Thanks in advance for your help. Regards, Frederic _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com Wed Aug 7 13:16:44 2002 From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com (jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? References: <20020807190011.4914A6E2@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <3D517216.21EDEDAC@spotgraphicsinc.com> > Wayne You must have really long, skinny fingers! Perhaps you are a piano maestro??? Jim K 93S4 90CQ > Message: 3 > From: "Wayne Dohnal" > To: "S-car list" , > Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:40:48 -0700 > > When I got my > car, I could turn 3 of the plugs with my fingers). From landaeta1 at comcast.net Wed Aug 7 16:24:49 2002 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (landaeta1@comcast.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Any thoughts on a Quick Sale? FS Message-ID: <002101c23e48$192333a0$6501a8c0@union01.nj.comcast.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Okay, I've listed on our S-cars Classified, where else should I advertise t= o sell my S6? Any thoughts on the various used car sites? Anyone had any su= ccess at Ebay. Of course, I'd like a good home for it, but being laid off = is damaging to your budget - better to pay the mortgage, keep the wife's mi= nivan. http://www.s-cars.org/Classifieds/Classifieds/Listings/ClassIndex/UrS6-CLAS= S/urs60126.html Doug 95.5 Emerald on Ecru S6 Avant - 65K miles (taking offers) From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Wed Aug 7 14:20:04 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7363@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Looking for an aftermarket Boost Gauge/Cluster to put on the A-Pillar for a 1992 S4. Similar to what AWE offers like: http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4_27t_interior.cfm&PPT=Interior&IL=APillarBoostGaugeKit Any suggestions? Thx cp From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com Wed Aug 7 13:26:14 2002 From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com (jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer References: <20020807190011.4914A6E2@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <3D517450.F7EA90FB@spotgraphicsinc.com> Fellas, In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, the answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in customer service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has the spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the group purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't know a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know exactly what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase and IIRC, that includes postage. However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has Koni's. I was not aware that this sagging rear end occured with anything but Bilstein Sports or some heavy in-laws in the back seat. No affiliation, yada yada yada. HTH, Jim K 93S4 90CQ > > > Message: 14 > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > To: "'s-car-list@audifans.com'" > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:46:10 -0700 > Subject: [s-cars] Qusestion regarding the Eibach Spacer > > Hi, > > I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as Koni > shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the ride > is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible > comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from the > list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our > master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix it. I > am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the > reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find > anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach distributor > here in Paris. > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Regards, > Frederic > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > End of S-CAR-List Digest From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Wed Aug 7 16:46:39 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5483@NJ_DC_01> I got my eibachs outside the group purchase and had the same "droopy-ass" problem. The original batch of spacers that was supplied mistakenly fit Koni's not Bilsteins (smaller I.D.). I gave my set to Nick Pinto (then I changed to coilovers anyway). So somewhere, there is a "Koni Spec" spacer made by Eibach. Bob -----Original Message----- From: jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:26 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer Fellas, In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, the answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in customer service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has the spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the group purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't know a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know exactly what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase and IIRC, that includes postage. However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has Koni's. I was not aware that this sagging rear end occured with anything but Bilstein Sports or some heavy in-laws in the back seat. No affiliation, yada yada yada. HTH, Jim K 93S4 90CQ > > > Message: 14 > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > To: "'s-car-list@audifans.com'" > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:46:10 -0700 > Subject: [s-cars] Qusestion regarding the Eibach Spacer > > Hi, > > I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as Koni > shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the ride > is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible > comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from the > list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our > master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix it. I > am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the > reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find > anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach distributor > here in Paris. > Thanks in advance for your help. > > Regards, > Frederic > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > End of S-CAR-List Digest _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com Wed Aug 7 13:56:17 2002 From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com (jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer References: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5483@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <3D517B5A.BDA76A81@spotgraphicsinc.com> Upon hearing this, I am pretty sure I still have my apparently Koni-Spec ones that came with my GP springs originally. I will look for them tonight. Who wants them? If I find them, I will measure them and post complete specs tomorrow. I do know one thing: They are black in color. Ooooohhhhhh, very stealth! Jim Robert Pastore wrote: > I got my eibachs outside the group purchase and had the same "droopy-ass" > problem. The original batch of spacers that was supplied mistakenly fit > Koni's not Bilsteins (smaller I.D.). I gave my set to Nick Pinto (then I > changed to coilovers anyway). > So somewhere, there is a "Koni Spec" spacer made by Eibach. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:26 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer > > Fellas, > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, > the > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in > customer > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has > the > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the > group > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't > know > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know > exactly > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase > and > IIRC, that includes postage. > > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has > Koni's. I > was not aware that this sagging rear end occured with anything but Bilstein > Sports > or some heavy in-laws in the back seat. > > No affiliation, yada yada yada. > > HTH, > Jim K > 93S4 > 90CQ > > > > > > > Message: 14 > > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > > To: "'s-car-list@audifans.com'" > > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:46:10 -0700 > > Subject: [s-cars] Qusestion regarding the Eibach Spacer > > > > Hi, > > > > I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as > Koni > > shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the ride > > is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible > > comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from the > > list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our > > master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix it. > I > > am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the > > reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find > > anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach distributor > > here in Paris. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Regards, > > Frederic > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > End of S-CAR-List Digest > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jimbo at sysdump.com Wed Aug 7 13:56:51 2002 From: jimbo at sysdump.com (Jim Bonnet) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? References: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7363@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: <3D517B83.8020607@sysdump.com> Cody Payne wrote: >Looking for an aftermarket Boost Gauge/Cluster to put on the A-Pillar for a 1992 S4. Similar to what AWE offers like: >http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4_27t_interior.cfm&PPT=Interior&IL=APillarBoostGaugeKit > > > Get the AutoMeter gauge pod to fit an a4.. It fits our cars as well.. or, OTOH, you can get the one from motodyne with a gauge and all the wiring you need for $150.. DOH! I posted part number last year for everything I bought, boost gauge, A/F meter and pod.. Its in the yahoo archives. I got it all from Summit Racing. Jim From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Wed Aug 7 17:00:08 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5484@NJ_DC_01> Jim: If you find them please send them to Frederick. We still owe him for that beautiful statue we've got here in the NY harbor. Bob -----Original Message----- From: jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:56 PM To: Robert Pastore Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer Upon hearing this, I am pretty sure I still have my apparently Koni-Spec ones that came with my GP springs originally. I will look for them tonight. Who wants them? If I find them, I will measure them and post complete specs tomorrow. I do know one thing: They are black in color. Ooooohhhhhh, very stealth! Jim Robert Pastore wrote: > I got my eibachs outside the group purchase and had the same "droopy-ass" > problem. The original batch of spacers that was supplied mistakenly fit > Koni's not Bilsteins (smaller I.D.). I gave my set to Nick Pinto (then I > changed to coilovers anyway). > So somewhere, there is a "Koni Spec" spacer made by Eibach. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:26 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer > > Fellas, > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, > the > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in > customer > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has > the > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the > group > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't > know > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know > exactly > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase > and > IIRC, that includes postage. > > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has > Koni's. I > was not aware that this sagging rear end occured with anything but Bilstein > Sports > or some heavy in-laws in the back seat. > > No affiliation, yada yada yada. > > HTH, > Jim K > 93S4 > 90CQ > > > > > > > Message: 14 > > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > > To: "'s-car-list@audifans.com'" > > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:46:10 -0700 > > Subject: [s-cars] Qusestion regarding the Eibach Spacer > > > > Hi, > > > > I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as > Koni > > shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the ride > > is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible > > comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from the > > list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our > > master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix it. > I > > am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the > > reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find > > anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach distributor > > here in Paris. > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > Regards, > > Frederic > > > > --__--__-- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > End of S-CAR-List Digest > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com Wed Aug 7 14:04:03 2002 From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com (jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer References: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5484@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <3D517D2C.BA3E7736@spotgraphicsinc.com> Oh, I had no idea that L'Huillier was pronounced "Lafayette".... Good to know. Anyway, great idea and it gets me on the short list for a second E-ticket ride around Paris next year. Frederic, I'll email you if/when I find them. Jim K. Robert Pastore wrote: > Jim: > > If you find them please send them to Frederick. We still owe him for that > beautiful statue we've got here in the NY harbor. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com] > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:56 PM > To: Robert Pastore > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer > > Upon hearing this, I am pretty sure I still have my apparently Koni-Spec > ones > that came with my GP springs originally. I will look for them tonight. Who > wants them? If I find them, I will measure them and post complete specs > tomorrow. I do know one thing: They are black in color. Ooooohhhhhh, very > stealth! > Jim > > Robert Pastore wrote: > > > I got my eibachs outside the group purchase and had the same "droopy-ass" > > problem. The original batch of spacers that was supplied mistakenly fit > > Koni's not Bilsteins (smaller I.D.). I gave my set to Nick Pinto (then I > > changed to coilovers anyway). > > So somewhere, there is a "Koni Spec" spacer made by Eibach. > > > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com [mailto:jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:26 PM > > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer > > > > Fellas, > > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein > shocks, > > the > > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in > > customer > > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he > has > > the > > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for > the > > group > > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I > don't > > know > > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know > > exactly > > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. > > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group > Purchase > > and > > IIRC, that includes postage. > > > > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has > > Koni's. I > > was not aware that this sagging rear end occured with anything but > Bilstein > > Sports > > or some heavy in-laws in the back seat. > > > > No affiliation, yada yada yada. > > > > HTH, > > Jim K > > 93S4 > > 90CQ > > > > > > > > > > > Message: 14 > > > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > > > To: "'s-car-list@audifans.com'" > > > Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:46:10 -0700 > > > Subject: [s-cars] Qusestion regarding the Eibach Spacer > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I had Eibach springs recently installed on my car (S6 Plus) as well as > > Koni > > > shocks. I find the rear is too low compaired to the front even if the > ride > > > is much better with this set up than with the stock one. No possible > > > comparison possible specially on track. Talking to various people from > the > > > list as well as looking at the excellent web site www.urs4.com from our > > > master Jimmy Pribble, there is actually a spacer made by Eibach to fix > it. > > I > > > am talking about the 50mm x 12mm steel spacers. Does anybody has the > > > reference for this part. I looked at www.eibach.com but could not find > > > anything. Any picture will also help before I call the Eibach > distributor > > > here in Paris. > > > Thanks in advance for your help. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Frederic > > > > > > --__--__-- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > End of S-CAR-List Digest > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 17:06:34 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II In-Reply-To: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C547C@NJ_DC_01> Message-ID: <000801c23e4d$ee53d2f0$0d42fea9@newpc> Funny, my car is running about 19 inches of vacuum at idle, about 25-26 inches on overrun, dips nearly to 30 if I shut the throttle violently at 5k rpm, which I really shouldn't be doing anyway. I guess we'll have to go together to a dyno day- my car seemed to run far better after getting my cluster fixed, so much so that I was going a bit too fast on the way home. :-) Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Pastore Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:45 PM To: 'wmahoney@disk.com'; Robert Pastore; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] RE: Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II Bill: I was just giving "book" hours for OEM R&I. How much of the 12 hrs was spent looking for that little metal clip that disappeared? On beer breaks? On working the wrong end of the turbo oil line? None of it matters anyway -- you did it and the car runs like an Andersen accountant runs from "Bubba", his new cellmate. BTW, back to 17 inches of vacuum today....Taka's Japanese magic only lasted 1 day. I need to bring him with me to a dyno day. Bob -----Original Message----- From: wmahoney@disk.com [mailto:wmahoney@disk.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 1:34 PM To: rpastore@animalfeeds.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Labor Estimates for RS2 Conversion -Part II Bob FWIW, I must be half fast as it took me more than 12hrs :) And if I had had to make all three custom wrenches another couple hours. As a now experienced EM installer, I am sure I could do it mucho faster. First time I tried to be real methodical. Cutting the bolts was a breeze w/Dremel cut off wheel.. Measure 3 times cut once. A real fun memory:) Cheers' Bill m _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 17:16:19 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7363@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: <000d01c23e4f$4b0a2610$0d42fea9@newpc> Cody- The A4 gauge pods work well in your UrS. The gauge I like the best would be the Greddy 60mm 270 deg. sweep electric boost gauge with peak hold and memory. Very sweet gauge, but it's $180 and requires modification to the gauge pod to make it work. Greddy makes a 52mm mechanical gauge that would work well, still something like $150. That's my preference, although the VDO white faced gauge is the closest match in terms of aesthetics, IMHO. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Cody Payne Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 3:20 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? Looking for an aftermarket Boost Gauge/Cluster to put on the A-Pillar for a 1992 S4. Similar to what AWE offers like: http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI =6&PP=s4_27t_interior.cfm&PPT=Interior&IL=APillarBoostGaugeKit Any suggestions? Thx cp _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 17:10:00 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000a01c23e4e$69473240$0d42fea9@newpc> Derek, Did you try replacing the sensor? I had the fault exactly once so far, unplugging it and checking the values made the fault go away. Weird. Taka From pizzoman at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 14:24:15 2002 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7363@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: <20020807202415.79887.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Cody- The VDO Gauge that I have matches perfectly in the daytime, but come night, I wish it was backlit in red like an Omori or the old SGI gauge. Does anyone on list have an extra SGI laying around? The Omori's nice, but at 225, it's some money. I'd say if you can find the SGI, get it. That's what I want, but I'm not too patient, so I got the VDO. It's white faced, black numbers and at night the gauge face lights up in a simple white glow...I was thinking of messing with it, but don't have much time these days, bigger fish to fry (Exhaust leaks, boost leaks, rubbing tires, cranky girlfriend). Good Luck, Joe --- Cody Payne wrote: > Looking for an aftermarket Boost Gauge/Cluster to > put on the A-Pillar for a 1992 S4. Similar to what > AWE offers like: > http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI=6&PP=s4_27t_interior.cfm&PPT=Interior&IL=APillarBoostGaugeKit > > Any suggestions? > > Thx > > cp > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From abiglizard at att.net Wed Aug 7 21:24:26 2002 From: abiglizard at att.net (abiglizard@att.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Roof Rack Powder Coating Source Message-ID: <20020807202426.XEXO7441.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@webmail.worldnet.att.net> Hey guys, mainly of use the the Colorado contingent, but may be worth a check for people elsewhere. my friend and i have used a powdercoating place in Fort Collins with good results. my friend was powdercoating parts on his 930 Porsche and me for a roadster i'm restoring. they also have a $35 charge for loading the color, but if you wait for someone else to pay for loading the color (as i have done) you don't get charged. or this charge can be spread around if several people want the same color. -powder coatings -high temp coatings they are near Mulberry (hwy 14) and I-25 at: Gooding Performance & Ultimate Coatings 405 Link Lane Fort Collins, CO 80524 970-482-2773 or toll free 888-482-6895 no affiliation, just good work & close attention to detail. kenny hayes > > Bill writes: > > > > > > > http://www.powderperfect.com/ > > Just got my roof rack back from this company with satin black powder > > coating. > > Looks damn nice :) > > Sorry Bill, I'm going with a local shop. The sales assistant pictured on the > home page rides a really nice bike :) > > http://www.prismpowderusa.com/home.htm > > Lee > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From DBertram at McLoughlinPromotions.Com Wed Aug 7 17:37:03 2002 From: DBertram at McLoughlinPromotions.Com (Dan Bertram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fuel smell. Message-ID: With regards to your fuel smell: does it happen usually right after you fill up? I know that Audi used to have a sticker in the rear window above the filler cap on older models to warn against overfilling. I found the smell around the right rear door as well as the right rear wheel well. Dan '97 S6 From: "Varon H. Fugman" To: Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 12:04:26 -0500 Subject: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area Was there any conclusion as to the cause of a fuel smell outside the back seat area of the car after driving? My car is doing this now. Smell is strongest near the right rear passenger door, although doesn't seem to be localized to fuel filler. Where should I look? Varon '95 urS6 From dohnal at hevanet.com Wed Aug 7 13:24:14 2002 From: dohnal at hevanet.com (Wayne Dohnal) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area Message-ID: <007401c23e53$51d7cca0$77a45e82@dohnal> I have exactly the same symptoms as you. It comes and goes and I've never been able to track it down. My optimistic side wants to say it's just coming out the exhaust pipe after stopping the car, and the pessimistic side says it's a leak and I'm going to burn to death (I've gone as far as giving evacuation instructions to my wife). I'll be watching this thread with great interest! Wayne Dohnal 1994 S4 >Was there any conclusion as to the cause of a fuel smell outside the back >seat area of the car after driving? My car is doing this now. Smell is >strongest near the right rear passenger door, although doesn't seem to be >localized to fuel filler. Where should I look? > >Varon >'95 urS6 From otw185 at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 14:49:57 2002 From: otw185 at yahoo.com (otw185) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Question regarding the Eibach Spacer Message-ID: <20020807204957.56293.qmail@web20908.mail.yahoo.com> I too just did the Eibach/Bilstein Sport upgrade on my 92. I would personally not wish to raise the rear as the tire/fender look sits perfectly tight, but not 'slammed' looking. However, to me, I perceive an ever-so-slightly higher front end. I haven't measured from wheel radius to fender center F/R to confirm. Given that I *just* did this, I wanted to see if it may need to settle a bit (I say this because ECS, who did it, told me it would seat a bit during a short break-in). I got a little rubber squalking sound at first in parking lots which went away after a few days, which sounds consistent with the theory. In any event, 10mm would be too much to raise the rear to make up for it. If it stays where it is, which I assume it will after a good week, I'd estimate 3-5mm would be the most difference I'm seeing. Given the 1 - 1.5 inch drop on a typical non-coilover upgrade is very noticeable, 5 mm will still bug me and I'll need to address this somehow. I've yet to reach Tom to confirm if the spacer was used, but I am guessing no. Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 17:52:24 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? In-Reply-To: <20020807202415.79887.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <001b01c23e54$55ac37c0$0d42fea9@newpc> The VDO gauge usually comes with some bulb "condoms" to change the color of the lighting- mine came with red and green ones, my gauge is nicely backlit in red. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Pizzimenti Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 4:24 PM To: Cody Payne; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Boost Gauge/Cluster Suggestions? Cody- The VDO Gauge that I have matches perfectly in the daytime, but come night, I wish it was backlit in red like an Omori or the old SGI gauge. Does anyone on list have an extra SGI laying around? The Omori's nice, but at 225, it's some money. I'd say if you can find the SGI, get it. That's what I want, but I'm not too patient, so I got the VDO. It's white faced, black numbers and at night the gauge face lights up in a simple white glow...I was thinking of messing with it, but don't have much time these days, bigger fish to fry (Exhaust leaks, boost leaks, rubbing tires, cranky girlfriend). Good Luck, Joe --- Cody Payne wrote: > Looking for an aftermarket Boost Gauge/Cluster to > put on the A-Pillar for a 1992 S4. Similar to what > AWE offers like: > http://www.awe-tuning.com/pages/shared/part_detail.cfm?PMaI=1&PMoI=4&PEI =6&PP=s4_27t_interior.cfm&PPT=Interior&IL=APillarBoostGaugeKit > > Any suggestions? > > Thx > > cp > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From dohnal at hevanet.com Wed Aug 7 14:54:39 2002 From: dohnal at hevanet.com (Wayne Dohnal) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Loose plugs (was:Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements?) Message-ID: <008401c23e54$a73d90c0$77a45e82@dohnal> OK, OK, I guess I asked for t his.... What I meant to say was: With a socket and extension on the plug, and no handle on the extension, I was able to rotate the plugs by rotating the extension with my fingers. Heck, it took me a few days just to figure out where the plugs were. Wayne Dohnal 1994 S4 >Wayne >You must have really long, skinny fingers! Perhaps you are a piano maestro??? >Jim K >93S4 >90CQ From w_perron at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 15:01:08 2002 From: w_perron at yahoo.com (William Perron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95.5 s6 avant shifter In-Reply-To: <20020807203157.01CBE737@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20020807210108.97504.qmail@web20006.mail.yahoo.com> Quick shifter question from a new owner: My shifter seems very sloppy. I understand about the excessive front to back movement, my 4kq and other s-cars I've driven are similar. Mine seems also to be able to rotate the shifter(not just the knob) maybe about 15 degrees. Is there some bushing/connection I should be checking-perhaps the ball/cup assembly at the shifter base? Thanks, Bill Perron '95.5 S6 '85 4kq __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Wed Aug 7 15:56:53 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sporadic Start?! Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7368@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Ok..I get the car towed to the shop today and when the car gets there "It STARTS?!" What the heck is going on here? I tested the fuel pump as I thought that was the issue via disconnecting the line in to the fuel filter and cranking over the engine..and noted that no fuel came out of the line. Is this a VALID test of the fuel pump/relay? Man this is frustrating any other tips? The ECU seems to be fine. TIA cp From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Wed Aug 7 19:00:46 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sporadic Start?! Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADFAA@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Cody, did you pull the ECU codes? It might be the dreaded Hall Sender... fault code 2113 "Hall Sender" or CPS (Cam Positioning Sensor) is a known failure. The Hall Sender or Cam Sensor fit's behind the "Impulse Rotor" of the Cam Sprocket. The Impulse Rotor is the metal cup attached behind the Cam Sprocket with a small window or cut out section, that enables the sensor to detect when piston number one is at TDC. If it turns out to be that my advice would be to purchase the CPS or Hall Sender from a source such as Adirondack: http://www.germanautoparts.com/ ( I paid $89 ! ) or the partsconnection or something else. Adirondack have always been good with me. You'll get a big suprize buying the part from the dealer. The dealer part number is correct: 034 905 161 I think the Bosch part number is: 0 232 101 020 Good luck ! Cheers, /Jamu. -----Original Message----- From: Cody Payne [SMTP:Cody.Payne@bconnected.com] Sent: August 7, 2002 4:57 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Sporadic Start?! Ok..I get the car towed to the shop today and when the car gets there "It STARTS?!" What the heck is going on here? I tested the fuel pump as I thought that was the issue via disconnecting the line in to the fuel filter and cranking over the engine..and noted that no fuel came out of the line. Is this a VALID test of the fuel pump/relay? Man this is frustrating any other tips? The ECU seems to be fine. TIA cp _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From editor at s-cars.org Wed Aug 7 18:49:35 2002 From: editor at s-cars.org (Darin Nederhoff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel smell near rear seat area References: <20020807185840.10960.qmail@web10901.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D51A3FF.88EA6C38@s-cars.org> Uh oh... not MORE fuel leaks. On my car I discovered that the main fuel lines had developed a leak where the lines go through the rubber clamps with stainless steel bands around them. Moisture gets trapped around these 'blocks' and once some sand or rocks chip away the hard candy coating on the lines they start to deteriorate slowly. You may want to check all around the rubber clips to see if they are moist. Mine was leaking from INSIDE one of the blocks. *sigh* Darin From skippertgore at hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 01:24:53 2002 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fuel smell. Message-ID: Dan, Varon, & Wayne, More thoughts on the fuel smell issue... (Let me also say that these are all best-case scenario's. As others have already said, a fuel odor can be dangerous.) My old car, a 944, used to have a fuel odor if you overfilled the tank because the overfill drain line leading from the filler nozzle area was corroded and would sometimes get a tablespoon of gas inside the rear 1/4 panel. Also, I know that the seals in the gas caps of these wonderful German cars are notorious for leaking, which causes the escape of vapors from the tank. I discovered this on my Scirocco after the cap flunked an emissions test several years ago. In NY, they pressure test the cap. Replacing it took care of an odor that car had occasionally. Finally, where is the "carbon canister" located on the s4's which stores excess fuel vapor? That might be something else to check. HTH, -Matt, CT 92 s4 _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From CaptMagu at aol.com Wed Aug 7 21:40:33 2002 From: CaptMagu at aol.com (CaptMagu@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Gettin stuff done Message-ID: <17c.c514790.2a831801@aol.com> Well, I had several odd mods that have been sitting around for me to get done and today was the day. I mounted a set of Sparco clutch, brake, and gas pedals and replaced my Momo Short Anatomic with a Sparco Ultra Low shift knob. The shift knob was a snap and lowered the height down some 1 1/2". My 1st to 2nd gear throw is now 4". Could someone with a non short shift kit transmission check their throw so we can evaluate? The brake and clutch were straight forward but did require me to drill through the steel pedals. I had been using Razo pedals and the mounting of the Sparcos was far superior IMO. I had a broken gas pedal which actually aided in my installation of the Sparco pedal. I also had the benefit of a brand new Audi pedal to look at. Sparco makes several gas pedals and I had the smaller curved one and the larger flat one on my bench to compare. I ended up using the larger flat pedal. I had to cut off the top 3" to make things fit. I also had to drill several additional mounting holes since the originals interfered with the stiock hinge location. One piece of advice that I didn't see on this mornings posts about R&R of the stock pedal is to remove the 2 clips at the under hood throttle hook up to give you maximum play with the braided steel cable. The pedals look real sharp and they must be worth an additional 10 hp at the wheels. The lower shift knob in concert with the Rudak short shift kit and the Amoroso lead-boot filled shift shaft give me a superb feeling transmission. It feels so good I just like running through the gears to feel it;-) Hap, feeling his shifts in Evergreen, Maguire From mungerts at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 18:58:06 2002 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? In-Reply-To: <20020807222004.1F24A2ED@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20020808005806.70094.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Hey guys, Forgive me if this is a stupid question... I RTFM and it said anything below 1.8 bar should be of concern but no max or normal... what do you see at idle versus throttle? --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Aug 7 23:42:21 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? In-Reply-To: <20020808005806.70094.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <002f01c23e85$388ea480$0d42fea9@newpc> I see about 2 bar at idle, 5 bar at full throttle. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Scott Munger Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:58 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? Hey guys, Forgive me if this is a stupid question... I RTFM and it said anything below 1.8 bar should be of concern but no max or normal... what do you see at idle versus throttle? --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From calvinlc at earthlink.net Wed Aug 7 21:49:09 2002 From: calvinlc at earthlink.net (Calvin & Diana Craig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? In-Reply-To: <20020808005806.70094.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Scott, These gauges (really I believe it's the sending units) are not the best in the world. I know mine in my S4 is high as it never gets below 5 Bar at 2500 rpm or above, there are some others on here that have had their gauges register at about 0.5 Bar with the engine not even turning, etc. If you are just curious I would say normal is around 4 BAR above 3k rpms and about 1.8 to 2.0 BAR at idle. If you think you may have a problem I strongly recommend checking with a mechanical gauge. --Calvin -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Scott Munger Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:58 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? Hey guys, Forgive me if this is a stupid question... I RTFM and it said anything below 1.8 bar should be of concern but no max or normal... what do you see at idle versus throttle? --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From munrof at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 8 00:06:13 2002 From: munrof at sympatico.ca (Fred Munro) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? Message-ID: <01C23E67.0BD29960.munrof@sympatico.ca> Hi Scott; This depends a bit on oil viscosity and temperature. On my car, a hot (~130 C) 10W30 gives 1.8 bar at idle and 4.5 bar at 3000 RPM. A hot (~130 C) 20W50 gives 2 bar at idle and around 5 bar above 3000 RPM. HTH Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: Scott Munger [SMTP:mungerts@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 8:58 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? Hey guys, Forgive me if this is a stupid question... I RTFM and it said anything below 1.8 bar should be of concern but no max or normal... what do you see at idle versus throttle? --Scott __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From panderso at maine.rr.com Thu Aug 8 01:46:55 2002 From: panderso at maine.rr.com (Peter Anderson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer In-Reply-To: <3D517450.F7EA90FB@spotgraphicsinc.com> Message-ID: OMG was it really a couple of years ago already? That's scary. In my numerous emails / tel calls with Eibach at the time, " Bo" was one of the people that helped straighten things out. (we were first sent the wrong springs) As things were clarified we asked about the sagging issue and they produced the (rear) spacer for our application. I can't find any of those messages so I can't get into the specifics. The first set of spacers they sent were too small a diam. They subsequently sent out correctly sized pieces. The first were anodized or powder coated black and the second (correct) set was cad plated steel. I may still have that 1st set of spacers laying around... -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed On 08/07/02 3:26 PM, "jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com" wrote: > Fellas, > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, > the > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in > customer > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has > the > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the > group > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't > know > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know exactly > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase > and > IIRC, that includes postage. > > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has Koni's. From mungerts at yahoo.com Wed Aug 7 23:10:19 2002 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020808051019.15198.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Thanks for the responses guys. The readings you report are in line w/mine. I was just surprised to see such a differential (2.0 bar -> 5.0 bar) between idle and throttle. Point noted about the gauges, it does seem "mushy". --Scott --- Calvin & Diana Craig wrote: > Scott, > > These gauges (really I believe it's the sending > units) are not the best in > the world. I know mine in my S4 is high as it never > gets below 5 Bar at > 2500 rpm or above, there are some others on here > that have had their gauges > register at about 0.5 Bar with the engine not even > turning, etc. If you are > just curious I would say normal is around 4 BAR > above 3k rpms and about 1.8 > to 2.0 BAR at idle. If you think you may have a > problem I strongly > recommend checking with a mechanical gauge. > > --Calvin __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Autos - Get free new car price quotes http://autos.yahoo.com From dan at s-cars.org Thu Aug 8 02:30:07 2002 From: dan at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? References: <20020807151351.82144.qmail@web12508.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <006001c23ea5$0a7bb2c0$9f8fe60c@attbi.com> You don't have to buy the whole unit though... the pedal is a seperate part, held into the mounting with two circlips and a pin. It's pretty easy to replace and I don't think the part was too much. Definately under $50. Later, Dan '94 S4 (Black/ecru) ...For Sale '95 S6 Avant (Europa blue/ecru) Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Platt" To: Cc: "Scar" Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:13 AM Subject: Subject: [s-cars] Accelerator Pedal Removal? Replacements? > I took a suggestion of another lister and bought a > small hinge from a hardware store. I attached it at > the factory hinge point to the accelerator(with 2 > small nuts and bolts) and mounting base(with supplied > screws). You can see the two small bolts on the pedal > but it worked slick and I still have that nice spring > action. 3 months and no problems. Total cost: $1.65! > Or you can pay Audi the $70 for the whole unit. > Mike Platt > 95.5 S6 avant > 75 Carrera Targa > 74 914 2.0 > > > After several weeks of waiting, I finally took > ownership of a *beautiful* '93 black urS4 today! My > neighbor thought I was taking delivery of a brand new > car! (Granted, they new nothing of Audi's ;-)) > > And now for my first parts question ... > My accelerator pedal is busted (the black surface > piece apparently has snapped off) > pn# 4A1 721 511 A > > How do you remove the whole pedal? I'll need to rig > up a dental mirror to see the fasteners... Is it in > the Bentley CD? > > Should I bother replacing it (if so, where can I order > it) or should I put in aluminum pedals? Anyone have > or know where to get pedals of similar size/fitment of > the OE pedals? > > TIA, > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Thu Aug 8 09:17:10 2002 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: In my experience, VW/Audi engines always run high oil pressure. My VR6 Corrado came with a 10 Bar gauge and it will indicate around 2 Bar at idle and 8 Bar at 3k rpm and above (In winter it will even hit just under 10 Bar when the engine is cold). This was the same with my '81 Scirocco with a 1.7L 4cyl, and my friends Audi Coupe with a 5 cyl 10V engine. Since my car is a '95, I don't have a gauge at all, but I would imagine the 20V motors are probably similar. I probably have some 10 Bar gauges and senders lying around somewhere. I should hook one up temporarily and see what the real pressures are. I always thought it was pretty silly that Audi always specs only a 5 Bar gauge given that normal engine pressures are typically above that. The gauge becomes essentially digital in that you either have oil pressure or you don't. Though I suppose that as long as you have greater than 5 Bar of pressure who cares, but it would be nice to see if it's trending downwards before it gets below 5 Bar Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Calvin & Diana Craig > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 10:49 PM > To: Scott Munger; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? > > > Scott, > > These gauges (really I believe it's the sending units) are not the best in > the world. I know mine in my S4 is high as it never gets below 5 Bar at > 2500 rpm or above, there are some others on here that have had > their gauges > register at about 0.5 Bar with the engine not even turning, etc. > If you are > just curious I would say normal is around 4 BAR above 3k rpms and > about 1.8 > to 2.0 BAR at idle. If you think you may have a problem I strongly > recommend checking with a mechanical gauge. > > --Calvin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Scott Munger > Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 6:58 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Normal Oil Pressure? > > > Hey guys, > > Forgive me if this is a stupid question... I RTFM and > it said anything below 1.8 bar should be of concern > but no max or normal... what do you see at idle versus > throttle? > > --Scott > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better > http://health.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From DBertram at McLoughlinPromotions.Com Thu Aug 8 10:39:25 2002 From: DBertram at McLoughlinPromotions.Com (Dan Bertram) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sporadic Start. Message-ID: Cody, I had the same problem on my 200: it wasn't the fuel pump that was bad, it was the "fuel pump check valve". I'm not sure if that's the technical term for it, but it would essentially shut down the fuel pump, especially if the car was still even the slightest bit warm. A night of sitting would open it back up again. Dan Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:56:53 -0600 From: "Cody Payne" To: Subject: [s-cars] Sporadic Start?! Ok..I get the car towed to the shop today and when the car gets there "It S= TARTS?!" What the heck is going on here? I tested the fuel pump as I thou= ght that was the issue via disconnecting the line in to the fuel filter and= cranking over the engine..and noted that no fuel came out of the line. Is= this a VALID test of the fuel pump/relay? Man this is frustrating any other tips? The ECU seems to be fine. TIA cp --__--__-- From flhuillier at siebel.com Thu Aug 8 08:05:40 2002 From: flhuillier at siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] The Black Beast at Le Mans Message-ID: <9BBA29C0DE714E4E905AF045B9EF625F98AB57@parhqexm01.siebel.com> Hi, I am very happy to announce that I managed today to register the now very famous Black Beast (MTM 100 S4 currently owned by our friend Joern) for a couple of laps of the grand Le Mans Track on the 21st of september. This car as well as a couple of others cars from the french Audi Club will have this unique opportunity during the Le Mans Classic event. Joern has barely enough time to clean the car !!!!!!!!! More seriously, a couple of people have sent emails to let me know that they will come over. I am able to buy full pass for the entire week end for a price of 32 euros (including paddock access) but I have to do it before the end of August. Can the people who are interested resend me an email to confirm they will come over. Regards, Frederic. From otw185 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 09:13:03 2002 From: otw185 at yahoo.com (otw185) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody Message-ID: <20020808151303.41598.qmail@web20903.mail.yahoo.com> here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or not, but lighting said to match: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0&t=0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From munrof at sympatico.ca Thu Aug 8 12:37:07 2002 From: munrof at sympatico.ca (Fred Munro) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody Message-ID: <01C23ECF.F1E0F740.munrof@sympatico.ca> Isn't this seller the much maligned Robert Hack aka Kurbin aka Motodyne ? Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: otw185 [SMTP:otw185@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:13 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or not, but lighting said to match: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0&t=0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jimbo at sysdump.com Thu Aug 8 09:28:57 2002 From: jimbo at sysdump.com (Jim Bonnet) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody References: <20020808151303.41598.qmail@web20903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3D528E39.4090805@sysdump.com> otw185 wrote: >here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or >not, but lighting said to match: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0&t=0 > >__________________________________________________ > > > be careful with this seller, this is motodyne, hackster, or whatever he calls himself. all this appears to consist of is the gauge pod ~20 bucks and the phantom gauge ~50 or so.. why give motodyne your money buy it from summit racing.. my .02 -jim From wmahoney at disk.com Thu Aug 8 11:32:05 2002 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody Message-ID: <3D528EF4.D3BC10E5@disk.com> >Cody wrote: >here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or >not, but lighting said to match: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0&t=0 Cody, This is a well documented vendor NOT to buy anything from. See urS4.com Kurbin attack pages. There are instances of sending $ and getting zero in return. I, my stupid self, bought some chips that were blank:( HTH Cheers' Bill M - 95 1/2 Avant -now featuring a very fast black roof rack:) 75 Carrera From otw185 at yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 09:33:09 2002 From: otw185 at yahoo.com (otw185) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody In-Reply-To: <01C23ECF.F1E0F740.munrof@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: <20020808153309.80387.qmail@web20906.mail.yahoo.com> Wow! didn't know I was potentially promoting something negative. I just recalled seeing the gauge up there and posted the URL. Glad you guys are on it! --- Fred Munro wrote: > Isn't this seller the much maligned Robert Hack aka > Kurbin aka Motodyne ? > > Fred Munro > '94 S4 > > -----Original Message----- > From: otw185 [SMTP:otw185@yahoo.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:13 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody > > here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good > or > not, but lighting said to match: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0&t=0 > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs > http://www.hotjobs.com > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Thu Aug 8 12:33:45 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADFCC@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> If it's a Phantom series as indicated then it's Autometer, and it's backlight in red (with a red condom on the bulb) but it's not actually a match to the cluster, the light is flooded from behind rather than a red/orange lighting of the numbers like the cluster. I have one, it's nice, but not a match. I won't comment on the seller, but ratings on this list are not favorable. /J. -----Original Message----- From: otw185 [SMTP:otw185@yahoo.com] Sent: August 8, 2002 11:13 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or not, but lighting said to match: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0 &t=0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 8 12:40:17 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody In-Reply-To: <20020808151303.41598.qmail@web20903.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000001c23ef1$e844f930$0d42fea9@newpc> It's Robert Hack again- DON'T BUY IT! Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of otw185 Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:13 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or not, but lighting said to match: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596 &r=0&t=0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com Thu Aug 8 09:49:15 2002 From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com (jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer References: Message-ID: <3D5292FA.1D1ACE1B@spotgraphicsinc.com> I looked everywhere and can't find the ones I have. I can't believe I got rid of them as I was able to find several blown/cut hoses, a bad MAF, a bad coil, a bad PSO, and all kinds of other defective/broken Audi parts. All of a sudden I'm totaling up the repair costs to date and no, bad idea, don't ever total anything up.... Anyway, I will keep looking, they'll turn up eventually. Jim Peter Anderson wrote: > OMG was it really a couple of years ago already? That's scary. > > In my numerous emails / tel calls with Eibach at the time, " Bo" was one of > the people that helped straighten things out. (we were first sent the wrong > springs) As things were clarified we asked about the sagging issue and they > produced the (rear) spacer for our application. I can't find any of those > messages so I can't get into the specifics. The first set of spacers they > sent were too small a diam. They subsequently sent out correctly sized > pieces. The first were anodized or powder coated black and the second > (correct) set was cad plated steel. I may still have that 1st set of > spacers laying around... > > -- > Peter Anderson > 93 S4 6speed > > On 08/07/02 3:26 PM, "jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com" > wrote: > > > Fellas, > > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, > > the > > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in > > customer > > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has > > the > > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the > > group > > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't > > know > > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know exactly > > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. > > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase > > and > > IIRC, that includes postage. > > > > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has Koni's. From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 8 13:21:23 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: turbo comparison In-Reply-To: <11b.1489dd3c.2a83ef46@aol.com> Message-ID: <000401c23ef7$a3a24480$0d42fea9@newpc> Scott- Please tell this to the folks at Eurospec (I believe that was Javad's former employer in CA). The guy they had at Waterfest insisted that the RS2 turbo was larger than a K26 found in a 5ktq. It was quite funny, actually, that I knew more than him about the turbo. But he was right, of course, because he actually had worked on a real RS2 at the shop. Okaaaay.... Maybe the guy they had there was not indicative of their knowledge, but this guy also knew nothing of the differences between 3B/AAN EMs and the RS2 EM. That kind of stuff makes me shy away from doing any business with them. Taka From dbpulvino at hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 11:09:12 2002 From: dbpulvino at hotmail.com (Derek Pulvino) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor Message-ID: Taka, Never replaced it, too intermitent for me to justify. Boost seems to be getting to were it should as well. Never unplugged it at the sensor, but have disconnected at the ECU end to test continuity. Erasing faults only keeps things clear for short time periods. I also see the check engine come on while driving sometimes, but less frequently for some reason these days than in days past. Derek P > >Derek, >Did you try replacing the sensor? I had the fault exactly once so far, >unplugging it and >checking the values made the fault go away. Weird. > >Taka _________________________________________________________________ Join the world=92s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 8 14:24:14 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001301c23f00$6b93e680$0d42fea9@newpc> Weird- possible problem with your ECU? They have been known to go bad occasionally. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Derek Pulvino [mailto:dbpulvino@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:09 PM To: t44tq@mindspring.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Cc: skippertgore@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor Taka, Never replaced it, too intermitent for me to justify. Boost seems to be getting to were it should as well. Never unplugged it at the sensor, but have disconnected at the ECU end to test continuity. Erasing faults only keeps things clear for short time periods. I also see the check engine come on while driving sometimes, but less frequently for some reason these days than in days past. Derek P > >Derek, >Did you try replacing the sensor? I had the fault exactly once so far, >unplugging it and checking the values made the fault go away. Weird. > >Taka _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com From dbpulvino at hotmail.com Thu Aug 8 11:28:52 2002 From: dbpulvino at hotmail.com (Derek Pulvino) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor Message-ID: Taka, Highly doubtful, car runs fine wrt to mileage, starting, and smoothness. When I refered to removing the connection from the ECU end, I was refering to removing the entire harness, not just the two wires associated with the temp sensor; I'm guessing that's where the confusion came in. Derek P _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Aug 8 14:47:02 2002 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <001c01c23f03$9ac21e60$0d42fea9@newpc> No confusion- I understood what you meant, just that it's strange that you have an intermittent problem like that. Not that strange, really, after all, it's an Audi, but still strange. I'd just replace the sensor if you haven't already and see if that helps, clean the connectors with contact enhancer. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Derek Pulvino [mailto:dbpulvino@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 1:29 PM To: t44tq@mindspring.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Cc: skippertgore@hotmail.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: Intake air temperature sensor Taka, Highly doubtful, car runs fine wrt to mileage, starting, and smoothness. When I refered to removing the connection from the ECU end, I was refering to removing the entire harness, not just the two wires associated with the temp sensor; I'm guessing that's where the confusion came in. Derek P _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com From Mark.Pollan at wcom.com Thu Aug 8 15:06:06 2002 From: Mark.Pollan at wcom.com (Mark Pollan) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Strut Bearings - GP suspension folks, where are you sourcing them? Message-ID: <003701c23f06$4487cf60$fdf029a6@PCY19358A.wcomnet.com> The only mystery that remains for me is the 10mm spacer and strut bearings. Plenty of discussion on the spacer but I have not seen anything on the bearings. Anybody have a good source to share? Regards, Mark Pollan 95.5 S6 From joeamund at online.no Thu Aug 8 21:23:31 2002 From: joeamund at online.no (joeamund) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer Message-ID: <3D55103D@epostleser.online.no> Jim! I don't know if it is relevant but my car came equipped with Eibach front/and rear springs(1516001V and 1516002HA) and Koni(86-2149) front shocks but Sachs(881700114079) rear shocks. When changing the rear shocks the diameter of the new Koni was different and smaller, OD 42mm compared to OD 49mm on the Sachs which also had ten grooves for adjustability of the lower spring-support with 10mm between the grooves. I later measured another S6 with Boge(4A9 513 031D) rear shocks and it had OD 46mm but the same diameter on the spring. I regret not buying the Sachs shocks again for the rear since I ended up making two rings/spacers. One for the different diameter and one for the adjustment of the spring-support at the bottom. It would have bin a lot easier to adjust the ride height just moving the locking ring. All this said i assume the lower spring-support is different on various models on our cars depending on which shock the car came with from the factory and diameter of the spring. The the solution is probably to make an adapter-ring if the shocks and springs is already paid for, or do as Hap did, put an adjustable coilover at the rear. Reg Joern >===== Original Message From jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com ===== >I looked everywhere and can't find the ones I have. I can't believe I got rid of >them as I was able to find several blown/cut hoses, a bad MAF, a bad coil, a bad >PSO, and all kinds of other defective/broken Audi parts. All of a sudden I'm >totaling up the repair costs to date and no, bad idea, don't ever total anything >up.... Anyway, I will keep looking, they'll turn up eventually. >Jim > >Peter Anderson wrote: > >> OMG was it really a couple of years ago already? That's scary. >> >> In my numerous emails / tel calls with Eibach at the time, " Bo" was one of >> the people that helped straighten things out. (we were first sent the wrong >> springs) As things were clarified we asked about the sagging issue and they >> produced the (rear) spacer for our application. I can't find any of those >> messages so I can't get into the specifics. The first set of spacers they >> sent were too small a diam. They subsequently sent out correctly sized >> pieces. The first were anodized or powder coated black and the second >> (correct) set was cad plated steel. I may still have that 1st set of >> spacers laying around... >> >> -- >> Peter Anderson >> 93 S4 6speed >> >> On 08/07/02 3:26 PM, "jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com" >> wrote: >> >> > Fellas, >> > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, >> > the >> > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in >> > customer >> > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has >> > the >> > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the >> > group >> > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't >> > know >> > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know exactly >> > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. >> > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase >> > and >> > IIRC, that includes postage. >> > >> > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has Koni's. > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From James.Murray at ericsson.ca Thu Aug 8 15:32:11 2002 From: James.Murray at ericsson.ca (James Murray (LMC)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:32 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Strut Bearings - GP suspension folks, where are you sourcing them? Message-ID: <32CD630F6CBED411AE180008C7894CBC0CAADFD9@lmc37.lmc.ericsson.se> Got mine from the same source during Dan's GP, http://www.bimmerparts.com Bearings I think where around $10 each, and Strut Mounts where $32 each (I think, better check...). Thanks again Dan! http://www.audifans.com/gp.html Cheers, /J. -----Original Message----- From: Mark Pollan [SMTP:Mark.Pollan@wcom.com] Sent: August 8, 2002 2:06 PM To: 'S-Cars' Subject: [s-cars] Strut Bearings - GP suspension folks, where are you sourcing them? The only mystery that remains for me is the 10mm spacer and strut bearings. Plenty of discussion on the spacer but I have not seen anything on the bearings. Anybody have a good source to share? Regards, Mark Pollan 95.5 S6 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Tate.Pinto at FMR.COM Thu Aug 8 15:25:25 2002 From: Tate.Pinto at FMR.COM (Pinto, Tate) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] instrument lighting help Message-ID: <91DF9655DE82164AA6EAA755DB6260A6016F5836@MSGMMK585NTS.fmr.com> I am the new owner of a 94 S car and would like to upgrade what I think is poor instrument lighting. Surprising since the A6 we used to have was much better - I guess they want your eyes on the road. What type of bulb do I need and how many of them? Any suggestions... Tate Pinto 94 S4 - 115,000 From mckenzie3249 at rogers.com Thu Aug 8 15:12:37 2002 From: mckenzie3249 at rogers.com (Ulrich L. McKenzie) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody In-Reply-To: <01C23ECF.F1E0F740.munrof@sympatico.ca> Message-ID: I Just checked Summit's website, and they have the gauge for $49.95. Could not remember PN for the pod, but they range from $19.95-$59.95 from what I saw. A much better deal than the one on eBay regardless of who is selling it! Len -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Fred Munro Sent: 08 August 2002 11:37 To: 'otw185'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody Isn't this seller the much maligned Robert Hack aka Kurbin aka Motodyne ? Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: otw185 [SMTP:otw185@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 11:13 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge question from cody here's the one on eBay. Don't know if this is good or not, but lighting said to match: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1849630596&r=0 &t=0 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Cody.Payne at bconnected.com Thu Aug 8 14:07:15 2002 From: Cody.Payne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] instrument lighting help Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7388@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Here is what I did: Thanks for the information I just got done replacing all my 1.2Watt Bulbs with Osram 2Watt. Here are my notes for the list: -1) Purchased 10 Osram 2-Watt Green Base Bulbs from ThePartsBin.com Part#2722 MF $1.98 a pc. -2) Removing instrument cluster is pretty easy actually. Hardest part is figuring out how to disconnect all the electrical connections on the back. Most are pretty easy but the ones with the "pink" clip on the top are easy once you figure it out. Just need it take a small flathead screwdriver and lift the pink clip stright up. Also a pair of "snips" to cut off a zip tie are useful. -3) You will need a Torx T10 bit to get to some of the bulbs (Speedo & Tach) -4) I found out the bulbs fit pretty good however I would take a pair of needle nose pliers and crip down the Osram bulb metal contacts a little tigher so they fit tighter in the connectors. -5) Applied some Stabilant22 to all contacts..cheapest place I could find it was from Motorola Part#11-80369E78 for around $38.00 for 15ml (ouch!) -6) Also while I had the cluser off I places a small piece of tape over the dummy alert buzzer...door open, lights on, stereo on etc. This quieted it down quite a bit but can still hear it. Also applied a bit of Silicone Spray around the cluster where it contacts the dash hoping to quiet down the dash (Verdict still out on this one) Total Time:1 Hour but if I were to do it again about 30 min. -----Original Message----- From: Pinto, Tate [mailto:Tate.Pinto@FMR.COM] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:25 PM To: 's-car-list@audifans.com' Subject: [s-cars] instrument lighting help I am the new owner of a 94 S car and would like to upgrade what I think is poor instrument lighting. Surprising since the A6 we used to have was much better - I guess they want your eyes on the road. What type of bulb do I need and how many of them? Any suggestions... Tate Pinto 94 S4 - 115,000 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jpostup at yahoo.com Thu Aug 8 13:35:38 2002 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Eibach spacer answer In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020808193538.78594.qmail@web10908.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi, I am fanatically calling Eibach these days. The rare times I don't get shoved to voice mail, today, I asked for "Bo". The receptionist replies, Bo is not working here any more.! WaaaahhhH! Of course, I ask for the techline, who are out to lunch for the moment. Jeff Bound and Determined to get them Rings. Posto Peter Anderson wrote:OMG was it really a couple of years ago already? That's scary. In my numerous emails / tel calls with Eibach at the time, " Bo" was one of the people that helped straighten things out. (we were first sent the wrong springs) As things were clarified we asked about the sagging issue and they produced the (rear) spacer for our application. I can't find any of those messages so I can't get into the specifics. The first set of spacers they sent were too small a diam. They subsequently sent out correctly sized pieces. The first were anodized or powder coated black and the second (correct) set was cad plated steel. I may still have that 1st set of spacers laying around... -- Peter Anderson 93 S4 6speed On 08/07/02 3:26 PM, "jimk@spotgraphicsinc.com" wrote: > Fellas, > In regard to the spacer to use for the Eibach springs with Bilstein shocks, > the > answer is to call the 1-800 number on the Eibach website, ask for "Bo" in > customer > service. (I suppose you could email him too) Tell him what you need, he has > the > spacers there (he's the guy that was in charge of getting them made for the > group > purchase a couple of years ago and still had some fairly recently). I don't > know > a part number (or if there even is one), but ask for him, he will know exactly > what you want. Very good customer service in my experience. > He will charge you $20 UNLESS you bought the springs with the Group Purchase > and > IIRC, that includes postage. > > However, I do not know if this will solve Frederic's problem as he has Koni's. _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs From konecc at snet.net Thu Aug 8 17:07:04 2002 From: konecc at snet.net (konecc@snet.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Strut Bearings -- anything else??? Message-ID: <281450-2200284820741@M2W048.mail2web.com> While replacing the struts and springs all around, one would be prudent to replace the strut bearings and mounts. From the experience of listers (especially those with high-mileage S4's), what other suspension components would it be wise to replace to get another 100K miles of tight suspension on a 90K mile S4? It's easy to do now once the suspension is apart anyway. I was thinking of replacing the sway bar mounts and the bushings where they enter the control arm. Any thoughts on control arm bushings, ball joints, tie rod ends, etc.?? -- Rich A. '93 S4 (soon to upgrade suspension) >Got mine from the same source during Dan's GP, http://www.bimmerparts.com > >Bearings I think where around $10 each, and Strut Mounts where $32 each (I >think, better check...). > >Thanks again Dan! >http://www.audifans.com/gp.html > >Cheers, /J. > >> The only mystery that remains for me is the 10mm spacer and strut >>bearings. >> Plenty of discussion on the spacer but I have not seen anything on >>the >> bearings. Anybody have a good source to share? >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Pollan >> 95.5 S6 -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . From matt at rustybrain.com Thu Aug 8 14:55:18 2002 From: matt at rustybrain.com (Matthew Farr) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] wheels and tires Message-ID: I've got a 93 S4 with about 100K on it. I've had it for about a year. The wheels are 16 inch 5-spoke Audi wheels. The wheels are kind of battered and stained. I've looked into having them refinished: there's a local shop called Woody's Wheel Works that will do it for $40-75 per wheel, depending on the condition. I think that's probably an OK deal, although I wonder what a good set of aftermarket wheels would cost. I've never bought aftermarket wheels, so if you have a recommendation(s), please let me know. I'm also planning to buy new tires. The current tires are Gislaved Nord Frost II tires in the 205/55 R16 size. I haven't been all that impressed with them. Any recommendations on tires? Thanks! Matt -------------------- Matt Farr 1993 Audi S4 Centennial, CO -------------------- From rpastore at animalfeeds.com Thu Aug 8 18:21:46 2002 From: rpastore at animalfeeds.com (Robert Pastore) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] boost gauge Message-ID: <2FEE9039C984D311B4B0009027A900DE1C5490@NJ_DC_01> With the recent talk of boost gauges, I thought I'd call Hubie from SPI to see if he could be convinced to do a small custom run for us. SPI gauges are top quality, backlit it red, and a very good match for our OEM stuff. A couple of years ago, he made a custom bezel-less gauge for me to mount in dash -- pictures are on Jimmy's site. SPI is also Apexi's East Coast rep office and a stocking warehouse for Japanese performance cars. Anyway, while he was working on my gauge, and trying to get my since abandoned) Apexi boost controller tuned, he offered me a ride in his turbo Supra. Before the ride, I thought these Supra's were about the ugliest cars I'd ever seen. The ride I took changed that opinion on a hurry! Holy shit, Batman, Hang on!!!!!!!!! A really scary fast machine. Did I mention how much I love these cars!!!!!!!!!! Wow, did it get better looking after the ride.. While I went to his website to find his new phone number, I found an article on the car. http://www.spipowerexcel.com/turbo_100101.htm I finally reached him and retooling production is still several months away -- earliest, and he is doing so well with his Defi imported line that he seems reluctant to retool and compete. Bob From lee at wheelman.com Thu Aug 8 18:21:26 2002 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] wheels and tires In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Matt writes: > > I've got a 93 S4 with about 100K on it. I've had it for > about a year. The wheels are 16 inch 5-spoke Audi wheels. > The wheels are kind of battered and stained. I've looked > into having them refinished: there's a local shop called > Woody's Wheel Works that will do it for $40-75 per wheel, > depending on the condition. I think that's probably an OK > deal, although I wonder what a good set of aftermarket > wheels would cost. I've never bought aftermarket wheels, so > if you have a recommendation(s), please let me know. Um, yes, that would be a good deal. I paid $150 per when I had mine done. Does Woody's guarantee his work? Rimpro does (www.rimpro.com), but at that price... :) > > I'm also planning to buy new tires. The current tires are > Gislaved Nord Frost II tires in the 205/55 R16 size. I > haven't been all that impressed with them. Any > recommendations on tires? Frosts are snow tires, and for snow tires the 205/55 size isn't bad...unless you've got the 16x8 5 spoke wheels. Then 205s are a bit narrow. For moderately priced tires, you can go with Yokahamas or Continentals or any number of other tires...it really depends on where you live, what you want out of a tire, how you drive, whether you'll run separate snow tires, etc. I ended up with Toyo TS1s in a 245/45 16 size. Bridgestone S03s are similar in performance. Both are expensive. But tell us more about what you want and we can provide better recommendations... Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant. From lee at wheelman.com Thu Aug 8 18:23:02 2002 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:47:33 2003 Subject: [s-cars] instrument lighting help In-Reply-To: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C5A7388@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Message-ID: Cody writes: > > Total Time:1 Hour but if I were to do it again about 30 mi