[s-cars] RE: Riff's dyno #s

Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK) WQQ2PXK at ups.com
Tue Nov 11 14:00:09 EST 2003

Na Mikey, not the message below, his one from the other day.  This one just
reminded me to pose the question.

As Hoppen's site claims 1+ should put out 280hp / 338 tq crank,  244 or so
crank for Riff would seem way off that mark.   I s'pose you're right though,
maybe his HC issue is knocking things down a bit.  But 196tq at wheels
(260ish crank)?  Hard to think that's that far off of the reputed 338 crank
due to his potential HC issue.  Seems odd to me, especially odd as da butt
would be easily convinced of more than that for torque.

I know this is all conjecture, hearsay, and speculation, and my intention is
NOT to 'benchrace' these figures, not at all.  Just more trying to spark
reasonable theory on the matter.  I hope to rope up a few local idiots and
head to that same place maybe after the holidays and hopefully can share
some more data points.

Heh, didn't know Hap was into modeling in his off time.  Sweet!

-P conspiracy theorist K.

-----Original Message-----
From: mlp qwest [mailto:mlped at qwest.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 1:25 PM
To: Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK); s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: RE: [s-cars] RE: Riff's dyno #s

Sorry Paul, I didn't (don't) see any whp or wtq figures in Riff's message.
But, if you go with 195whp/0.80 -> for a possible 243.75 imputed flywheel
hp, wouldn't that put Riff in the realm of reasonable claims for a +1 car?
how much more were you expecting?

If it, the imputed bhp #'s, is slightly low, maybe it's a reflection of
something else wrong with the car that might also explain why he didn't pass
HC emissions?  Running too rich?  Can't that kill your power curve too.
What's the list claim for what a +1 car should do?

Personally I'm looking forward to a report on Hap's drive down to sea-level
altitude densities and what his blue denim's
http://www.mauihoney.com/Island%20Pants.htm  have to report for effect on
his spool up.


~-----Original Message-----
~From: s-car Krasusky Paul
~Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:37 AM

~Hmmm...  is it me the only one that finds Riff's recent dyno #'s
~of ~ 195whp
~/ 196wtq for a 1+ car a bit on da lower side of what is commonly
~advertised???  Does this more serve to say tuner's claims are in fact
~drastically optimistic?  In this case, I don't care if you're
~using a TCF of
~75-80% or whatever, it ain't gittin' anywhere NEAR MTM's claims of 280hp /
~While I agree with JuanPizzo, MikeyLP, etc. that you can get a
~dyno to say /
~mean anything, if these #s were true I'd hafta say it's waaaaaaaay
~past time
~to get my trusty buttdyno recalibrated...  'feels' more than 250-260 crank
~hp / tq to me fersure...
~-P it may really fan some flames and stir some pots but this is sorta
~intriguing K.
~P.S.  sorry Riff, no help here on your emissions flunkyflunk...
~I'll let the
~technogeeks have at that one, I'm merely a geekygeek...

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