From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Mon Sep 1 10:02:05 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:40 2003 Subject: [s-cars] /Natural Norwegian blondes..... Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18D9227FE@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> Joern, I can see you are driving on a very dangerous road here... I will make sure Eloise is aware that from your point of view there were no beautifull girls at Folembray. For Le Mans Classic, I believe Keith and Tom will say exactly the opposite. And for the little trip in Norway, I have to admit the girl at the restaurant was pretty cute. But I am a maried man so I only look at the menu without ordering. See you in Oktober at Ingolstadt. Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Joern Amundsen [mailto:joern.amundsen@online.no] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:18 PM To: Frederic L'Huillier; lee@wheelman.com; Bj?rn ?deg?rd; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] /Natural Norwegian blondes..... Well Fred, you just could not let this chance pass by could you? I will get back on you and Norbert at the Sport Quattro meeting in october for sure. Yes it might have been me on the picture, and too bad they did not show the pictures taken later at night in the same tent. As you all can see it is a natural blond beautiful Norwegian girl in her prime age, and I can not recall seeing such things at the Folembray or Le Mans for that matter. I do recall however four french guys visiting me, sitting in a small Norwegian city north of Oslo trying to figure out how to get hold of the beautiful Norwegian girls. But the girls were too smart to be fooled by the french "lover-boys"... As for the meeting the pics are from, its truly amazing that 17000 visitors got inside the track area each day. The best part was when two girls washed a car with their tits on sunday.Ooooh what a beautiful country Norway is! Best regards Joern,MTM RS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frederic L'Huillier" To: ; "Bj?rn ?deg?rd" ; Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:56 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] //SFest ROX -part 2 Actually, I believe Joern is on the right as well ! ! ! Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:29 PM To: Bj?rn ?deg?rd; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] //SFest ROX -part 2 Bjorn writes: Well, there are some people that really goes all the way,(like these guys: > http://www.gatebil.no/bilder/treff_rudskogen_2003_01/ I'm glad there was a safety official standing by for the blonde's dance. Things coulda gotten ugly, what with the curves and all. :) Lee _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From beernuts at online.no Mon Sep 1 12:42:14 2003 From: beernuts at online.no (=?iso-8859-1?B?Qmr4cm4g2GRlZ+VyZA==?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:40 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Radiator cooling fan won't run References: <33379.192.168.1.50.1062131734.squirrel@frank.mercea.net> <070101c36e21$2e38db00$10294bc1@roxardomain.roxar.com> <61879.63.142.161.101.1062164623.squirrel@frank.mercea.net> Message-ID: <07ec01c3706d$53811320$10294bc1@roxardomain.roxar.com> Nope, not sulfur. Just like you try to burn a piece of rubber.. I've looked again, and the smell is definately from the hot side, of the engine, but I can't locate it when it's hot down there. May be a small piece of the turbo to x-over hose that I had to trim because of the larger K26 housing, but i can't see anything lying around on the hot parts.. Guess I have to get it on the ramps or something.. Thanks anyway! Bjorn :o) '92 S4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brett Dikeman" To: "Bj?rn ?deg?rd" Cc: "Tim Leonard" ; "AUDI S Cars Discussion List" ; "200q20v" <200q20v@audifans.com> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Radiator cooling fan won't run > > > Btw, why does it smell like burnt rubber from a fresh RS2 conversion? > > Ie, sulfur? When you get on the gas? If so, you're running too rich, and > that's the catalytic converter. > > Brett > > DISCLAIMER: This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Roxar Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. From rokas at wam.umd.edu Mon Sep 1 02:53:44 2003 From: rokas at wam.umd.edu (Rokas Reipa) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Cutoff at 6k rpm Message-ID: <021a01c3704d$679d4a60$6501a8c0@rokasistheshit> Hey everyone. My newly purchased 95.5 S6 will not allow me to exceed 6k rpm. Tried running it up to the redline in 2nd gear and it began bucking and hesitating exactly at 6000 rpm, indicating a fuel cutoff. What gives? What can I check/do to fix this problem? Thanks, Rokas 95.5 S6 From beernuts at online.no Mon Sep 1 16:28:44 2003 From: beernuts at online.no (=?iso-8859-1?B?Qmr4cm4g2GRlZ+VyZA==?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] /Natural Norwegian blondes..... References: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18D9227FD@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> <00b901c36fc2$801b30b0$ac714382@Joern> Message-ID: <086601c3708c$f7657660$10294bc1@roxardomain.roxar.com> Lol! Yes, I guess we are pretty lucky, after all!! (BTW, my wife lived in San Diego, CA for some time with a frenchman some years ago, and yes, she is pretty blonde, even if I haven't seen her washing the cars with her boobs _yet_! ;o)) Bjorn :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joern Amundsen" To: "Frederic L'Huillier" ; ; "Bj?rn ?deg?rd" ; Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] /Natural Norwegian blondes..... > Well Fred, you just could not let this chance pass by could you? I will get > back on you and Norbert at the Sport Quattro meeting in october for sure. > > Yes it might have been me on the picture, and too bad they did not show the > pictures taken later at night in the same tent. As you all can see it is a > natural blond beautiful Norwegian girl in her prime age, and I can not > recall seeing such things at the Folembray or Le Mans for that matter. > > I do recall however four french guys visiting me, sitting in a small > Norwegian city north of Oslo trying to figure out how to get hold of the > beautiful Norwegian girls. But the girls were too smart to be fooled by the > french "lover-boys"... > > As for the meeting the pics are from, its truly amazing that 17000 visitors > got inside the track area each day. The best part was when two girls washed > a car with their tits on sunday.Ooooh what a beautiful country Norway is! > > Best regards Joern,MTM RS > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > To: ; "Bj?rn ?deg?rd" ; > > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:56 PM > Subject: RE: [s-cars] //SFest ROX -part 2 > > > Actually, I believe Joern is on the right as well ! ! ! > > Regards, > Frederic > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:29 PM > To: Bj?rn ?deg?rd; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] //SFest ROX -part 2 > > > Bjorn writes: > > Well, there are some people that really goes all the way,(like these guys: > > > http://www.gatebil.no/bilder/treff_rudskogen_2003_01/ > > I'm glad there was a safety official standing by for the blonde's dance. > Things coulda gotten ugly, what with the curves and all. > > :) > > Lee > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > DISCLAIMER: This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Roxar Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. From lee at wheelman.com Mon Sep 1 10:35:12 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <1062388167.3f52c1c71b33f@webmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: Paul writes: > > I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that aren't > tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. > > I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent > during road trips, which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert > conditions. I just changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience > the "pedal to the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. I upgraded my S6 to BIRA System 3 2 years ago and I recently took a fellow lister's car out for a drive. Forgot how *bad* the stock brakes are. Wow! This is a fabulous upgrade...pedal feel is dramatically better, no fade, no pad deposition and pulsing after hard braking. You owe it to yourself to do this :) BTW, I went with Sys3 for more flexibility in wheel choices... Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com Mon Sep 1 10:35:51 2003 From: ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com (ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Idling rich what to do? Message-ID: <169.234cc778.2c84a537@aol.com> Hi Guy's As a testament to how slow the Canadian- USA boarder crossings are these days my car starts to blow a lot of black smoke out after idling for 30 minutes plus which is about 2/3 of the time it took me to get to the booth with the friendly US customs agent. This happened once a year and a half ago and again last night. Huge black cloud of smoke. The car has an MTM chip 1) Should I be concerned with my car running this rich at idle? 2) Has anyone else had this happen? and what have you done to fix it? Bets regards, Shawn From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Mon Sep 1 15:45:49 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18DFA6D6D@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> The answer is obviously YES I had exactly the same experience with an S6 Plus with stock brakes ! ! ! Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:35 PM To: Paul.Park@colorado.edu; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Brake Options? Paul writes: > > I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that > aren't tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. > > I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during > road trips, which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert > conditions. I just changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have > to experience > the "pedal to the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. I upgraded my S6 to BIRA System 3 2 years ago and I recently took a fellow lister's car out for a drive. Forgot how *bad* the stock brakes are. Wow! This is a fabulous upgrade...pedal feel is dramatically better, no fade, no pad deposition and pulsing after hard braking. You owe it to yourself to do this :) BTW, I went with Sys3 for more flexibility in wheel choices... Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Mon Sep 1 11:02:46 2003 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm In-Reply-To: <021a01c3704d$679d4a60$6501a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: I had the same problem on my '95 S6 and it was driving me crazy trying to track down the problem. The long and the short of it is that you are actually hitting the 7200 rpm redline and the ignition cut-off is kicking in. The tachometer is just reading low by approximately 17%, which is coincidently the difference between 6 cyls and 5 cyls. This is now the 5th S6 that I have heard of having this problem, and it only affects the '95-'97 S6 with the digital odometer as far as I can tell. Fortunately Paul Gailus determined that the fix is easy, if you have access to a VAG-COM. The instrument cluster is most likely coded for a 6 cylinder engine, and since it is only receiving 5 pulses per revolution, it will read low. Here is a link to the post that Paul sent on how to fix it with VAG-COM: http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/s-car-list/2003-May/016834.html If you don't have access to a VAG-COM the dealer will obviously be able to reset it for you as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to charge you for a minimum of 1 hour labor even though it was a mistake caused by whichever Audi dealership sold/serviced the car in the first place and didn't reset the cluster for a 5 cylinder engine. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: quattro-admin@audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com]On > Behalf Of Rokas Reipa > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:54 AM > To: quattro@audifans.com > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > Hey everyone. My newly purchased 95.5 S6 will not allow me to > exceed 6k rpm. > Tried running it up to the redline in 2nd gear and it began bucking and > hesitating exactly at 6000 rpm, indicating a fuel cutoff. What gives? What > can I check/do to fix this problem? Thanks, > > Rokas > 95.5 S6 From brucem105 at comcast.net Mon Sep 1 11:33:27 2003 From: brucem105 at comcast.net (Bruce Mendel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm References: Message-ID: <012701c37096$02ecbb20$0201a8c0@corp.handspring.com> This is the reason why I love this list, and I don't even have a UrS4 anymore! This problem would take three months, four frustrated dealers, and hundreds of $$s to fix, and on here it's done in ten minutes (assuming Bob knows what he's talking about.....just kidding). Way to go! Bruce 01' S4, turbochargers going bad, missing my '93 S4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Rossato" To: "Rokas Reipa" ; Cc: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > I had the same problem on my '95 S6 and it was driving me crazy trying to > track down the problem. The long and the short of it is that you are > actually hitting the 7200 rpm redline and the ignition cut-off is kicking > in. The tachometer is just reading low by approximately 17%, which is > coincidently the difference between 6 cyls and 5 cyls. This is now the 5th > S6 that I have heard of having this problem, and it only affects the '95-'97 > S6 with the digital odometer as far as I can tell. > > Fortunately Paul Gailus determined that the fix is easy, if you have access > to a VAG-COM. The instrument cluster is most likely coded for a 6 cylinder > engine, and since it is only receiving 5 pulses per revolution, it will read > low. Here is a link to the post that Paul sent on how to fix it with > VAG-COM: > > http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/s-car-list/2003-May/016834.html > > If you don't have access to a VAG-COM the dealer will obviously be able to > reset it for you as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to charge > you for a minimum of 1 hour labor even though it was a mistake caused by > whichever Audi dealership sold/serviced the car in the first place and > didn't reset the cluster for a 5 cylinder engine. > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: quattro-admin@audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com]On > > Behalf Of Rokas Reipa > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:54 AM > > To: quattro@audifans.com > > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > > > > Hey everyone. My newly purchased 95.5 S6 will not allow me to > > exceed 6k rpm. > > Tried running it up to the redline in 2nd gear and it began bucking and > > hesitating exactly at 6000 rpm, indicating a fuel cutoff. What gives? What > > can I check/do to fix this problem? Thanks, > > > > Rokas > > 95.5 S6 > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Mon Sep 1 11:36:04 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] /Natural Norwegian blondes..... In-Reply-To: <086601c3708c$f7657660$10294bc1@roxardomain.roxar.com> from "=?iso-8859-1?B?Qmr4cm4g2GRlZ+VyZA==?=" at Sep 01, 2003 03:28:44 PM Message-ID: <200309011436.h81Ea4c03601@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier,Bj?rn ?deg?rd wrote: > > Lol! > Yes, I guess we are pretty lucky, after all!! > (BTW, my wife lived in San Diego, CA for some time with a frenchman some > years ago, and yes, she is pretty blonde, even if I haven't seen her > washing the cars with her boobs _yet_! ;o)) > > Bjorn :o) Please let us know when this is scheduled! :-P - Charlie > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joern Amundsen" > To: "Frederic L'Huillier" ; > ; "Bj?rn ?deg?rd" ; > > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 3:17 PM > Subject: Re: [s-cars] /Natural Norwegian blondes..... > > > > Well Fred, you just could not let this chance pass by could you? I > will get > > back on you and Norbert at the Sport Quattro meeting in october for > sure. > > > > Yes it might have been me on the picture, and too bad they did not > show the > > pictures taken later at night in the same tent. As you all can see it > is a > > natural blond beautiful Norwegian girl in her prime age, and I can not > > recall seeing such things at the Folembray or Le Mans for that matter. > > > > I do recall however four french guys visiting me, sitting in a small > > Norwegian city north of Oslo trying to figure out how to get hold of > the > > beautiful Norwegian girls. But the girls were too smart to be fooled > by the > > french "lover-boys"... > > > > As for the meeting the pics are from, its truly amazing that 17000 > visitors > > got inside the track area each day. The best part was when two girls > washed > > a car with their tits on sunday.Ooooh what a beautiful country Norway > is! > > > > Best regards Joern,MTM RS > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Frederic L'Huillier" > > To: ; "Bj?rn ?deg?rd" ; > > > > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:56 PM > > Subject: RE: [s-cars] //SFest ROX -part 2 > > > > > > Actually, I believe Joern is on the right as well ! ! ! > > > > Regards, > > Frederic > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] > > Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 4:29 PM > > To: Bj?rn ?deg?rd; s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: RE: [s-cars] //SFest ROX -part 2 > > > > > > Bjorn writes: > > > > Well, there are some people that really goes all the way,(like these > guys: > > > > > http://www.gatebil.no/bilder/treff_rudskogen_2003_01/ > > > > I'm glad there was a safety official standing by for the blonde's > dance. > > Things coulda gotten ugly, what with the curves and all. > > > > :) > > > > Lee > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list From steve at thepowers.net Mon Sep 1 08:52:51 2003 From: steve at thepowers.net (steve powers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <1062388167.3f52c1c71b33f@webmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <000d01c37098$b7db0530$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> to echo the sentiments of others - indeed this makes a difference I did it to our 95.5 S6 Avant (993TT calipers, RS2 brackets, 993TT rotors w/ BIRA hats) as to the options you mention... 993TT - uses Audi RS2 bracket, can use A8 or S8 rotors, or 993TT rotors w/ custom (BIRA, others) hats, fits beneath Avus 16" wheels 996TT - custom brackets, can use A8 or S8 rotors, or 996TT rotors w/ custom hats, requires 17" or greater wheels Wilwood, Alcon - racing brakes, limited pad choices, custom hats, rotors, expen$ive, dust seals not designed for everyday conditions, must rebuild regularly, high maintenance Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of > Paul.Park@colorado.edu > Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 8:49 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? > > > I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to > cars that aren't tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. > > I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent > during road trips, which would be, for me at least, 4-5 > hours through desert conditions. I just changed my brake > fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the "pedal > to the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. > > If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE > Powerdiscs, and HAWK brake pads, would I notice anything in > terms of Brake Fade and stopping distance? > > What are some options that will allow me to stop in a > shorter distance, while not building up too much detrimental > heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. 6, but if I can get away > with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going with a > > sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track > characteristic as Big Reds, > > then I'm all for that. > > SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to > the Big Reds? Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? > > Thanks, > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/> s-car-list > From joe at kansack.com Mon Sep 1 08:53:12 2003 From: joe at kansack.com (Joe Petersack) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ETKA 5.3 and price file ? Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030901075139.0037d290@pop3.kansack.com> I have tried renaming the preis.sav file to preis.e but still end up with zeros in all the prices. Am I missing a step or are the prices not really there? Joe From fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 1 09:03:06 2003 From: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com (chris chambers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... Message-ID: <20030901150306.67377.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> I have an idea! As we so often see fellow S-car owners/friends traveling far away fromt their homes, occasionally these friends have needed help (finding pentosin on a Sunday). It has occurred to me (as we prepare to head east in one of our 93 S4's on our honeymoon) that it could be very helpful to have a list of volunteers that are willing to help out in different locations. Is there a way we could create a web based list that we can input our contact information, and what help we can provide. This contact information that could be printed out and taken with you when on a trip? This could allow our fellow list members to be able to pick up a phone and seek out helpful advice, and help. For starters I would be glad to assemble a list and distribute it to the members until we could take it to a web based utility. (I know I'll regret this in about 2 weeks) :- ) This is the only list that I have ever been a member of that I would be willing to provide my personal contact information to. The members of this list have come together to create what has to be the most polite, friendly, caring community I have ever been a member of. Any thoughts? Chris ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From thehenrys at sympatico.ca Mon Sep 1 12:14:31 2003 From: thehenrys at sympatico.ca (Brent Henry) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bleeding Clutch Hydraulic System Message-ID: <002101c3709b$bea741a0$9c00a8c0@henrysp200> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have just replaced both the Master Clutch Cylinder and the Slave Clutch C= ylinder on my '92 S4. I initially attempted to "gravity bleed" the system = by filling the brake fluid reservoir and by cracking open the bleeder valve= on the slave cylinder and allowing gravity to pull the fluid through the s= ystem (draining through a hose into a container). This seemed to be working... after about a half an hour some fluid started = dripping through the bleeder valve! I have heard (somewhere on this list) = that this method takes a fair bit of time... so, I continued with this meth= od for over 15 hours (overnight), filling the brake fluid reservoir every f= ew of hours to ensure that I don't introduce any new air bubbles into the s= ystem! This morning I closed the bleeder valve up tight and checked for pressure i= n the clutch pedal... there was no pressure! It went right to the floor? = So, I began pumping the clutch pedal by hand (as to facilitate lifting the = pedal up to normal rest position)... after about 300 pumps, I started to de= tect some pressure in the bottom inch or two of the pedal movement. Howeve= r, at 800 pumps there is no significant increase in pressure at the pedal? I remember doing this procedure in my old '88 5KTQW, it only took about 100= 0 pumps to get the system fully pressurized (however, I only changed the Ma= ster Cylinder)... by changing both master and slave cylinders, does this me= an that it requires twice as many pumps? Can someone who has BTDT provide some feedback on how best to bleed this sy= stem. Thanks, Brent. -- From jrt105 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 1 09:32:11 2003 From: jrt105 at yahoo.com (JR Tolleson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Ingolstadt in Oktober? In-Reply-To: <20030901133133.27039.78746.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20030901153211.51696.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> What's going on in Ingolstadt in October? I have purchased tickets to the DTM race at Hockenheimring (I think), and I'd be glad to do another road trip to Ingolstadt for an Audi festival. I'm sure I could even get a couple of my friends to go. JR Tolleson '94 S4 4.2 6-speed __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From Airbil at aol.com Mon Sep 1 12:34:28 2003 From: Airbil at aol.com (Airbil@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] re:Bleeding Clutch Hydraulic System Message-ID: <49.32dbc835.2c84c104@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Bent The only way to bleed the system is with a pressure bleeder such as the Motive Pressure bleeder. You need to seal the resevoir top and get 5 or 10 psi in the system. Otherwise you will pump away to no avail. An assistant helper would be very useful. (Norwegian blond preferred;) at least for today. HTH Bill m From bob.rossato at att.net Mon Sep 1 12:43:13 2003 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm In-Reply-To: <012701c37096$02ecbb20$0201a8c0@corp.handspring.com> Message-ID: Well I did spend many months off and on going through all sorts of troubleshooting, including rpm/speed/gear mapping to determine the tach was in error, checking engine speed sensors, swapping ECUs, swapping tachs, and finally swapping instrument clusters to figure out the problem was with the circuit board in my IC. Not to mention the cost of a used instrument cluster it turns out I didn't need. It was Paul who figured out you could reset it in 10 minutes including the time it takes to crack open and consume a good ale after a job well done. Arggggh! Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Bruce Mendel > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:33 AM > To: Bob Rossato; Rokas Reipa; quattro@audifans.com > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > This is the reason why I love this list, and I don't even have a UrS4 > anymore! This problem would take three months, four frustrated > dealers, and > hundreds of $$s to fix, and on here it's done in ten minutes (assuming Bob > knows what he's talking about.....just kidding). > > Way to go! > > Bruce > 01' S4, turbochargers going bad, missing my '93 S4 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Rossato" > To: "Rokas Reipa" ; > Cc: > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:02 AM > Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > > I had the same problem on my '95 S6 and it was driving me crazy > trying to > > track down the problem. The long and the short of it is that you are > > actually hitting the 7200 rpm redline and the ignition cut-off > is kicking > > in. The tachometer is just reading low by approximately 17%, which is > > coincidently the difference between 6 cyls and 5 cyls. This is now the > 5th > > S6 that I have heard of having this problem, and it only affects the > '95-'97 > > S6 with the digital odometer as far as I can tell. > > > > Fortunately Paul Gailus determined that the fix is easy, if you have > access > > to a VAG-COM. The instrument cluster is most likely coded for a 6 > cylinder > > engine, and since it is only receiving 5 pulses per revolution, it will > read > > low. Here is a link to the post that Paul sent on how to fix it with > > VAG-COM: > > > > http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/s-car-list/2003-May/016834.html > > > > If you don't have access to a VAG-COM the dealer will obviously > be able to > > reset it for you as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they want to > charge > > you for a minimum of 1 hour labor even though it was a mistake caused by > > whichever Audi dealership sold/serviced the car in the first place and > > didn't reset the cluster for a 5 cylinder engine. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: quattro-admin@audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com]On > > > Behalf Of Rokas Reipa > > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:54 AM > > > To: quattro@audifans.com > > > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > > > Subject: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > > > > > > > Hey everyone. My newly purchased 95.5 S6 will not allow me to > > > exceed 6k rpm. > > > Tried running it up to the redline in 2nd gear and it began > bucking and > > > hesitating exactly at 6000 rpm, indicating a fuel cutoff. What gives? > What > > > can I check/do to fix this problem? Thanks, > > > > > > Rokas > > > 95.5 S6 From lee at wheelman.com Mon Sep 1 12:52:01 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CB HideFood In-Reply-To: <49.32dbc835.2c84c104@aol.com> Message-ID: For those of you who treat your leather with Connolly Brother's HideFood, it's time to lay in a supply. The company is in receivership and they have ceased manufacturing. Hopefully, someone will purchase the company and go back into production...the stuff is great. We had a similar scare with the Brooks Leather Co, makers of the best bicycle seats in the world, also British. Fortunately they're back in production. This is from a good friend, who's a Brit - "The Brits, falling behind and working part time to catch up!" Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant 'ex 1972 Atala Club Racer with Brooks Pro saddle (the saddle is still hanging on my wall) From t44tq at mindspring.com Mon Sep 1 13:24:51 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm In-Reply-To: <012701c37096$02ecbb20$0201a8c0@corp.handspring.com> Message-ID: <001001c370a5$93153060$6500a8c0@newpc> In case any of you are in the NYC metro area, I have a VAG-COM and would be happy to help out. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Mendel Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:33 AM To: Bob Rossato; Rokas Reipa; quattro@audifans.com Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm This is the reason why I love this list, and I don't even have a UrS4 anymore! This problem would take three months, four frustrated dealers, and hundreds of $$s to fix, and on here it's done in ten minutes (assuming Bob knows what he's talking about.....just kidding). Way to go! Bruce 01' S4, turbochargers going bad, missing my '93 S4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Rossato" To: "Rokas Reipa" ; Cc: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:02 AM Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > I had the same problem on my '95 S6 and it was driving me crazy trying > to track down the problem. The long and the short of it is that you > are actually hitting the 7200 rpm redline and the ignition cut-off is > kicking in. The tachometer is just reading low by approximately 17%, > which is coincidently the difference between 6 cyls and 5 cyls. This > is now the 5th > S6 that I have heard of having this problem, and it only affects the '95-'97 > S6 with the digital odometer as far as I can tell. > > Fortunately Paul Gailus determined that the fix is easy, if you have access > to a VAG-COM. The instrument cluster is most likely coded for a 6 cylinder > engine, and since it is only receiving 5 pulses per revolution, it > will read > low. Here is a link to the post that Paul sent on how to fix it with > VAG-COM: > > http://www.audifans.com/pipermail/s-car-list/2003-May/016834.html > > If you don't have access to a VAG-COM the dealer will obviously be > able to reset it for you as well, but I wouldn't be surprised if they > want to charge > you for a minimum of 1 hour labor even though it was a mistake caused > by whichever Audi dealership sold/serviced the car in the first place > and didn't reset the cluster for a 5 cylinder engine. > > Bob > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: quattro-admin@audifans.com > > [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com]On > > Behalf Of Rokas Reipa > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 1:54 AM > > To: quattro@audifans.com > > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > > > > Hey everyone. My newly purchased 95.5 S6 will not allow me to exceed > > 6k rpm. Tried running it up to the redline in 2nd gear and it began > > bucking and hesitating exactly at 6000 rpm, indicating a fuel > > cutoff. What gives? What > > can I check/do to fix this problem? Thanks, > > > > Rokas > > 95.5 S6 > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From dburig at igsenergy.com Mon Sep 1 13:44:17 2003 From: dburig at igsenergy.com (Dave Burig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... In-Reply-To: <20030901150306.67377.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Great idea, Chris. I'm in. DB, Columbus, OH -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of chris chambers Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:03 AM To: Scar Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... I have an idea! As we so often see fellow S-car owners/friends traveling far away fromt their homes, occasionally these friends have needed help (finding pentosin on a Sunday). It has occurred to me (as we prepare to head east in one of our 93 S4's on our honeymoon) that it could be very helpful to have a list of volunteers that are willing to help out in different locations. Is there a way we could create a web based list that we can input our contact information, and what help we can provide. This contact information that could be printed out and taken with you when on a trip? This could allow our fellow list members to be able to pick up a phone and seek out helpful advice, and help. For starters I would be glad to assemble a list and distribute it to the members until we could take it to a web based utility. (I know I'll regret this in about 2 weeks) :- ) This is the only list that I have ever been a member of that I would be willing to provide my personal contact information to. The members of this list have come together to create what has to be the most polite, friendly, caring community I have ever been a member of. Any thoughts? Chris ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Rfeagleye at aol.com Mon Sep 1 13:50:41 2003 From: Rfeagleye at aol.com (Rfeagleye@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Contact list for travelers needing help... Message-ID: <18b.1eecce82.2c84d2e1@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Chris, Excellent idea! I am in Cleveland, OH, let me know what else you might need for the list. And congrats on the honeymoon! Rob Eagleye 1992 S4 1993 S4 2001 S4 From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Mon Sep 1 18:58:00 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18D92280A@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> Same for me. Actually many people had contacted me before while they are in Paris. For the S6 Plus of course not for me !!!! (isn't it true my great friend Joern from Norway ???) I just helped Keith Maddock's friend today. Two more US friends are coming end of the month. Regards, Frederic L'Huillier Cellular: +33 (0)6 73 48 34 88 -----Original Message----- From: Dave Burig [mailto:dburig@igsenergy.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:44 PM To: chris chambers; Scar Subject: RE: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... Great idea, Chris. I'm in. DB, Columbus, OH -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of chris chambers Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:03 AM To: Scar Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... I have an idea! As we so often see fellow S-car owners/friends traveling far away fromt their homes, occasionally these friends have needed help (finding pentosin on a Sunday). It has occurred to me (as we prepare to head east in one of our 93 S4's on our honeymoon) that it could be very helpful to have a list of volunteers that are willing to help out in different locations. Is there a way we could create a web based list that we can input our contact information, and what help we can provide. This contact information that could be printed out and taken with you when on a trip? This could allow our fellow list members to be able to pick up a phone and seek out helpful advice, and help. For starters I would be glad to assemble a list and distribute it to the members until we could take it to a web based utility. (I know I'll regret this in about 2 weeks) :- ) This is the only list that I have ever been a member of that I would be willing to provide my personal contact information to. The members of this list have come together to create what has to be the most polite, friendly, caring community I have ever been a member of. Any thoughts? Chris ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Mon Sep 1 20:14:14 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18D92280D@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> Colin, My friend Norbert had similar problems with his SQ. Spark Plug cables and other electrical components were changed (included rare distributor) and the problem was solved. And no, I will not ask to have the car for one year !!!! Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Joern Amundsen [mailto:joern.amundsen@online.no] Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 4:58 PM To: c cohen; Audi S Car List; Audi20V_Kruemmer@yahoogroups.com; urq@audifans.com; qlist Subject: Re: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW Colin! The boost on the SQ is solely controlled by wastegate spring stiffness. There are no frequency valve on this system with the LH-Jetronic. If you are refering to the boost-gauge inside the instrument panel this is electric controlled by the ECU and is very inaccurate. The stock max boost on the SQ is 1,05 barg(showing as 2,05 on the gauge) on the European models. I do not believe the check-engine light is related to low boost, but low boost is a function of malfunctioning sensors. I will try tomorrow to disconnect the sensors(air temp,water temp,MAF etc) on my car and see if I can provoke a similar situation as you have. Is the US cars equipped with both catalysators and O2 sensor? Best regards Joern,MTM RS ----- Original Message ----- From: "c cohen" To: "Audi S Car List" ; ; ; "qlist" Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW > One of the SQ/KW's in the US is experiencing a engine check light > problem which has not appeared with the other 20 valve I5 engines as > far as I can tell. > > At about .85 bar the check light comes on and its not pulling full > (1.7 bar) > boost. We have no paperwork that is directly related to this engine > so its > an experience and trial and error solution. Let me know if anyone has > any thoughts. > > The car is in LA and if anyone know the owner directly then by all > means correspond with him but he does not follow the lists. > > Thanks for any and all ideas, besides the one I fully expect to hear > that goes something like...lend it to me for a year and I will figure > it out.!!! > VBG > > Colin > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From dslagle at zoominternet.net Mon Sep 1 15:26:55 2003 From: dslagle at zoominternet.net (Dan Slagle) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bleeding MC Clutch Message-ID: <002101c370bf$00f904d0$3ecd9a18@DMDTS> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Brent: I recently replaced my MC for the Clutch and manually bled the System using the following prcedure: 1] Fill the Reservior. 2] Pump the Clutch Pedal until it gets hard to pump, i.e. 20 - 25 times, with the Bleeder Valve closed. 3] Open the bleeder valve as somneone else depresses the Clutch Pedal all the way to the floor. 4] Close the Bleeder Valve and fill the Reservior. 5] Repeat the procedure if necessary. It took me three times to completely bleed the System. HTH Dan 95.5 S6 -- From joern.amundsen at online.no Mon Sep 1 20:43:08 2003 From: joern.amundsen at online.no (Joern Amundsen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Ingolstadt in Oktober? References: <20030901153211.51696.qmail@web9708.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <005e01c370b0$86b5c400$69934382@Joern> JR, It is 20 anniversary Sport Quattro meeting held and arranged by the Swiss club. Friday 17.th and saturday 18.th I belive is solely for club members, but on sunday 19.th there is a gathering/photo session outside the Audi-museum in Ingolstadt with both Street sport Quattros, rally Sport Quattros with famous drivers(Rohrl,Mouton etc) and regular UR-Quattros. Best regards Joern, MTM RS ----- Original Message ----- From: "JR Tolleson" To: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 5:32 PM Subject: [s-cars] Ingolstadt in Oktober? > What's going on in Ingolstadt in October? I have purchased tickets to the DTM race > at Hockenheimring (I think), and I'd be glad to do another road trip to Ingolstadt > for an Audi festival. I'm sure I could even get a couple of my friends to go. > > JR Tolleson > > '94 S4 4.2 6-speed > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software > http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com Mon Sep 1 16:50:54 2003 From: ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com (ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... Message-ID: <9c.34b4ee2f.2c84fd1e@aol.com> Great idea Chris. We should have a state by state (country by country) list for all the audifan lists of willing people with contact hours, phone numbers, and ability Regards, Shawn. From cgharibo at usa.net Mon Sep 1 16:58:58 2003 From: cgharibo at usa.net (Christopher Gharibo) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 100W High Beams in Euros Message-ID: <968HiaT779920S03.1062446338@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net> Will 100W high beams cause a problem in my Euros if the wiring is upgraded? Some listers are reporting melting of stock plastic reflectors. Has this been a problem with the Euros as well? Thanks, Chris This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or telephone and permanently delete this e-mail and its copies and prints. Thank you. From ccohen5 at compuserve.com Mon Sep 1 18:16:01 2003 From: ccohen5 at compuserve.com (c cohen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW References: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18D92280D@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> Message-ID: <01ce01c370ce$4db690d0$1d657742@aviallinc.com> Sounds logical - I will pass it on. Distributor's are like hen's teeth but I believe the factory has some for owners purchase only. Colin Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW Colin, My friend Norbert had similar problems with his SQ. Spark Plug cables and other electrical components were changed (included rare distributor) and the problem was solved. And no, I will not ask to have the car for one year !!!! Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From stadmef at ntplx.net Mon Sep 1 22:02:28 2003 From: stadmef at ntplx.net (Frank Stadmeyer) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Car Fax Request and wiring fun Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030901204354.030b3dd8@mail.ntplx.net> Listers, Does anyone know of a free Car Fax account? I'd like to look up a 2000 Passat that my wife wants. I know It's not an AUDI but it's better than that baaS she's been driving! Mandatory Audi content, I spent the weekend chasing instrument cluster problems in my son's '89 100Q. It started with lightly glowing turn signals and ended with a flash. I quit while I was behind and called Chris Semple to get another IC and we'll see what went up with the flash. A quick lesson in wiring diagrams and I'll be all set. Good thing I have all the way until next Sum. before my son needs to go back to school with the car! Frank From konecc at snet.net Mon Sep 1 22:13:31 2003 From: konecc at snet.net (Rich Assarabowski) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Looking for S4 headlights In-Reply-To: <005e01c370b0$86b5c400$69934382@Joern> Message-ID: <000701c370ef$6fd6ab20$a5c2fea9@abitintel> I'm looking for a set of US-spec headlights (complete housings) for the S4. Could I buy a set of them from any of you guys who recently purchased the Euro lights for their S4's? Thanks! -- Rich Assarabowski '92 & '93 S4 konecc@snet.net From russ at s-cars.org Mon Sep 1 20:16:42 2003 From: russ at s-cars.org (Russ Panneton) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Cutoff at 6k rpm In-Reply-To: <021a01c3704d$679d4a60$6501a8c0@rokasistheshit> References: <021a01c3704d$679d4a60$6501a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: <3F53EF7A.8050401@s-cars.org> Some folks have experienced a tachometer reading low, so perhaps your 6K cutoff is truly at the 7200 RPM cutoff? Russ 95.5 S6 Rokas Reipa wrote: >Hey everyone. My newly purchased 95.5 S6 will not allow me to exceed 6k rpm. >Tried running it up to the redline in 2nd gear and it began bucking and >hesitating exactly at 6000 rpm, indicating a fuel cutoff. What gives? What >can I check/do to fix this problem? Thanks, > >Rokas >95.5 S6 > > > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > From munrof at sympatico.ca Mon Sep 1 22:25:35 2003 From: munrof at sympatico.ca (Fred Munro) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 100W High Beams in Euros In-Reply-To: <968HiaT779920S03.1062446338@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: I've had 100w bulbs in my Euro high beams for a couple of years with no problems. The reflectors are bubbling near the base of the bulbs, but not on the working surface. Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Christopher Gharibo Sent: September 1, 2003 3:59 PM To: * S List Subject: [s-cars] 100W High Beams in Euros Will 100W high beams cause a problem in my Euros if the wiring is upgraded? Some listers are reporting melting of stock plastic reflectors. Has this been a problem with the Euros as well? Thanks, Chris This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or telephone and permanently delete this e-mail and its copies and prints. Thank you. _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From tmullane at snet.net Mon Sep 1 22:25:31 2003 From: tmullane at snet.net (Tom Mullane) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? Message-ID: <000001c370f1$1d16ab40$6701a8c0@tom1> Having just sold my 1991 200Q, I am in the market for a 1995.5 S6, preferably black/black. No rush, I will wait for the right car at the right price. I am in the northeast, but I am looking anywhere along the eastern seaboard instead of limiting my search to local cars. There seems to be a good selection available, and, for some reason, prices seem to have dipped a bit over the summer. Anyway, I want the 95.5, but I often have trouble telling the difference from photos and ads. I know that they were many changes during the extended 1995 model year, but what are some of the features that denote an .5 car? I know enough to look at the b pillar for the absence of IR buttons, and the radio/cigarette lighter location, but what else? Does anyone know the production date when the change occurred? How 'bout a VIN split? Bueller? TIA Tom Mullane Hartford, CT 1991 CQ 1999 A6Q (da wife's) Etc. From mungerts at yahoo.com Mon Sep 1 19:47:31 2003 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... In-Reply-To: <20030902012426.5327.84065.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20030902014731.3160.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> I think that's a very good idea. There will be about 4 guys in a 4 state radius down here... but still :-) Seems natural to include a few fields in the S-Car Registry and be able to sort by location. http://www.audi-quattro.org/scars/phpRegistry/browse.php We could all make a donation as well :-D --Scott Chandler (Phoenix), AZ > > Great idea, Chris. I'm in. > DB, Columbus, OH > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From bob.rossato at att.net Mon Sep 1 23:18:48 2003 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: <000001c370f1$1d16ab40$6701a8c0@tom1> Message-ID: The 95.5s have a production date of 7/95 and later, and a VIN of 121XXX. As far as I can tell there are no other external differences except for the IR receiver you mentioned. On the interior you also had a small center visor and a chrome button on the handbrake, but the wider radio and lack of rear diff lock are the easiest ways to tell. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Tom Mullane > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:26 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > > > Having just sold my 1991 200Q, I am in the market for a 1995.5 S6, > preferably black/black. No rush, I will wait for the right car > at the right > price. I am in the northeast, but I am looking anywhere along the eastern > seaboard instead of limiting my search to local cars. There seems to be a > good selection available, and, for some reason, prices seem to > have dipped a > bit over the summer. > > Anyway, I want the 95.5, but I often have trouble telling the difference > from photos and ads. I know that they were many changes during > the extended > 1995 model year, but what are some of the features that denote an > .5 car? I > know enough to look at the b pillar for the absence of IR buttons, and the > radio/cigarette lighter location, but what else? Does anyone know the > production date when the change occurred? How 'bout a VIN split? > Bueller? > > > TIA > > Tom Mullane > Hartford, CT > 1991 CQ > 1999 A6Q (da wife's) > Etc. > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From stadmef at ntplx.net Mon Sep 1 23:44:07 2003 From: stadmef at ntplx.net (Frank Stadmeyer) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Contact list for travelers needing help... In-Reply-To: <20030901150306.67377.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030901223719.05234ec0@mail.ntplx.net> I believe the WMB club has something like this. They publish a booklet with a listing of members who are willing to provide various levels of support ranging from advice to a place to stay to a fully equipped shop with parts. You get a copy of the list for free if you are in it or you can buy a copy. Maybe someone who is a member of the WMB club is on the list (if they'll admit it?) can get the details. Frank At 08:03 AM 9/1/2003 -0700, chris chambers wrote: >I have an idea! > >As we so often see fellow S-car owners/friends traveling far away fromt >their homes, occasionally these friends have needed help (finding >pentosin on a Sunday). It has occurred to me (as we prepare to head >east in one of our 93 S4's on our honeymoon) that it could be very >helpful to have a list of volunteers that are willing to help out in >different locations. > >Is there a way we could create a web based list that we can input our >contact information, and what help we can provide. This contact >information that could be printed out and taken with you when on a >trip? This could allow our fellow list members to be able to pick up a >phone and seek out helpful advice, and help. > >For starters I would be glad to assemble a list and distribute it to >the members until we could take it to a web based utility. (I know I'll >regret this in about 2 weeks) :- ) > >This is the only list that I have ever been a member of that I would be >willing to provide my personal contact information to. The members of >this list have come together to create what has to be the most polite, >friendly, caring community I have ever been a member of. > >Any thoughts? >Chris > > >===== >93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) >73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup >95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg > >"If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - >Mario Andretti" > >"It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list Frank From mark.pollan at mci.com Mon Sep 1 23:38:54 2003 From: mark.pollan at mci.com (Mark Pollan) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? Message-ID: <001c01c370fb$5ac8b0f0$d87132a6@wcomnet.com> My battery gave up the ghost. Under the seat is a Diehard. Would like something different that does not fail without fail at the predetermined Mean Time to Failure. I do recall reading that Optima makes a good battery but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody would be so kind to provide info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Mark Pollan From audisport44 at yahoo.com Mon Sep 1 21:08:06 2003 From: audisport44 at yahoo.com (Dan Bozga) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] What are the exact make and models of CD changers that fit a 93 S4? Message-ID: <20030902030806.35612.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'm trying to find a CD changer for my 93 S4 and I was wondering exactly what make and model CD changers would fit. I don't care if it's a 6 disc or a 12 disc as long as it works. thanks Dan --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From ccohen5 at compuserve.com Mon Sep 1 20:50:58 2003 From: ccohen5 at compuserve.com (c cohen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] SQ/KW problem Message-ID: <000801c37104$7efcf220$7001a8c0@aviallinc.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks Jim - I will pass this on. Sounds similar to my problem earlier this year which was resolved by another temp sensor. I think your MAF suggestion is the more likely problem area. Colin From: AUDIJIM@aol.com Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 09:31:26 EDT To: Audi20V_Kruemmer@yahoogroups.com, s-car-list@audifans.com, urq@audifans.com, quattro@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Re: Problem SQ/KW -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] On the KW engine, I would first look at the Air Temp. Sensor located on the intake manifold. It is the sensor right in front of the little "Audi" logo towards the back of the intake manifold and almost directly under the letter B in turbo if you were looking down at the engine and intake. Take a look at the connections. It will be a two wire but there is no plug. Pull back the boot to expose the soldered wires and check if any are broken off. If that is OK, I would then check the MAF. These seem to be the plausible culprits from what you described. Jim Furdyn ///Audi5TurboTech 011 1 856 482 1646 www.audi5turbotech.com -- From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Tue Sep 2 00:50:49 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] What are the exact make and models of CD changers that fit a 93 S4? In-Reply-To: <20030902030806.35612.qmail@web14705.mail.yahoo.com> from "Dan Bozga" at Sep 01, 2003 08:08:06 PM Message-ID: <200309020350.h823ono07734@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier, Dan Bozga wrote: > > I'm trying to find a CD changer for my 93 S4 and I was wondering > exactly what make and model CD changers would fit. I don't care if > it's a 6 disc or a 12 disc as long as it works. Here's a page with several links, including one that covers what you need to know on CD changers. One is Ti Kan's page on radios in the various models, and it also speaks to which CD changer works with which radio & car. http://www.elektro.com/~audi/radios/ - Charlie Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features 97 Dodge Ram - 40 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel From brett at cloud9.net Tue Sep 2 00:57:36 2003 From: brett at cloud9.net (Brett Dikeman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Car Fax Request and wiring fun In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030901204354.030b3dd8@mail.ntplx.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030901204354.030b3dd8@mail.ntplx.net> Message-ID: <34674.192.168.1.50.1062475056.squirrel@frank.mercea.net> > Mandatory Audi content, > I spent the weekend chasing instrument cluster problems in my son's '89 > 100Q. It started with lightly glowing turn signals and ended with a > flash. I quit while I was behind and called Chris Semple to get another IC > and we'll see what went up with the flash. A quick lesson in wiring > diagrams and I'll be all set. Good thing I have all the way until next > Sum. before my son needs to go back to school with the car! Glowing turn signals(usually only with the headlights or highbeams on- can also be accompanied by a dead/darkened trip computer display) is the infamous cracked solder joint. Top of the PCB, right over the speedo. Easily fixed either by solder(semi-temporary repair, good for another 100K) or running a new wire or two between solder points(permanent repair)- no new IC needed, unless you're positive you fried something(and even then, it may only be the voltage regulator, which is easily replaced). The instructions have been linked to many times in posts to the 200q20v list- I think Chris Miller's page probably also has a link to them. Brett From strangconst at rogers.com Tue Sep 2 01:31:36 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? References: <1062388167.3f52c1c71b33f@webmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <00e601c3710b$187c8ae0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> I did the Bira System 6 upgrade a few years ago. I have NEVER regretted it. Some say that better pads, and SS line sets help. I had SS lines, and all it did was cost me money. I think the added confidence that the Porsche set-ups provide makes an already great car even better. My brakes still turn heads at lights or gas stations which , while not adding to the cars ability, is kinda cool. IMHO, it's money WELL spent. Do it right once and you will not regret it. Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2003 11:49 PM Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? > I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that aren't > tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. > > I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during road trips, > which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert conditions. I just > changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the "pedal to > the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. > > If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE Powerdiscs, and HAWK > brake pads, would I notice anything in terms of Brake Fade and stopping > distance? > > What are some options that will allow me to stop in a shorter distance, while > not building up too much detrimental heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. 6, but > if I can get away with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going with a > > sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track characteristic as Big Reds, > > then I'm all for that. > > SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to the Big Reds? > Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? > > Thanks, > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From gailus at mindspring.com Tue Sep 2 00:51:56 2003 From: gailus at mindspring.com (Paul Gailus) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm References: Message-ID: <003a01c3710d$f1136700$0201a8c0@com> It was Bob who determined that the tach was reading low by a factor of 5/6, and first observed that this could be explained by a tach that was mistakenly set up for a 6 cylinder engine. I happened to be thumbing through the Bentley one day when I noticed that the digital odometer cluster could be coded for the number of cylinders. At this point Bob's comments immediately came to mind. So I hooked up my VAG-COM. and sure enough, it was set to 6 cylinders. I do remember being a little apprehensive about hitting the final button to reprogam the cluster, but after a few beeps all was well. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Rossato To: Bruce Mendel ; Rokas Reipa ; Cc: Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: RE: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > Well I did spend many months off and on going through all sorts of > troubleshooting, including rpm/speed/gear mapping to determine the tach was > in error, checking engine speed sensors, swapping ECUs, swapping tachs, and > finally swapping instrument clusters to figure out the problem was with the > circuit board in my IC. Not to mention the cost of a used instrument > cluster it turns out I didn't need. It was Paul who figured out you could > reset it in 10 minutes including the time it takes to crack open and consume > a good ale after a job well done. Arggggh! > > Bob From nard1 at voyager.net Tue Sep 2 04:47:14 2003 From: nard1 at voyager.net (Tim Leonard) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 100W High Beams in Euros References: <968HiaT779920S03.1062446338@uwdvg003.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: <004c01c37126$6da176a0$0502a8c0@nard1> The 100w bulbs I used in my Euro's put a nice cooling hole through the reflector above each bulb. Tim Leonard ESCARGO ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Gharibo" To: "* S List" Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 3:58 PM Subject: [s-cars] 100W High Beams in Euros > Will 100W high beams cause a problem in my Euros if the wiring is upgraded? > Some listers are reporting melting of stock plastic reflectors. > > Has this been a problem with the Euros as well? > > Thanks, > Chris > > > This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is > protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the > sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you > are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this > e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have > received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply > e-mail or telephone and permanently delete this e-mail and its copies and > prints. Thank > you. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From beernuts at online.no Tue Sep 2 11:00:34 2003 From: beernuts at online.no (=?iso-8859-1?B?Qmr4cm4g2GRlZ+VyZA==?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm References: <003a01c3710d$f1136700$0201a8c0@com> Message-ID: <08c801c37128$49b2f000$10294bc1@roxardomain.roxar.com> A small thought.. The HVAC display have a possibility to show the rpms, why not just compare to that? (it should after all not be affected by the IC?) Bjorn :o) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Gailus" To: "Bob Rossato" ; "Bruce Mendel" ; "Rokas Reipa" ; Cc: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:51 AM Subject: Re: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > It was Bob who determined that the tach was reading low by > a factor of 5/6, and first observed that this could be explained > by a tach that was mistakenly set up for a 6 cylinder engine. > > I happened to be thumbing through the Bentley one day when > I noticed that the digital odometer cluster could be coded for the > number of cylinders. At this point Bob's comments immediately > came to mind. So I hooked up my VAG-COM. and sure enough, > it was set to 6 cylinders. I do remember being a little apprehensive > about hitting the final button to reprogam the cluster, but after a few > beeps all was well. > > Paul > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bob Rossato > To: Bruce Mendel ; Rokas Reipa ; > > Cc: > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:43 AM > Subject: RE: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm > > > > Well I did spend many months off and on going through all sorts of > > troubleshooting, including rpm/speed/gear mapping to determine the tach > was > > in error, checking engine speed sensors, swapping ECUs, swapping tachs, > and > > finally swapping instrument clusters to figure out the problem was with > the > > circuit board in my IC. Not to mention the cost of a used instrument > > cluster it turns out I didn't need. It was Paul who figured out you could > > reset it in 10 minutes including the time it takes to crack open and > consume > > a good ale after a job well done. Arggggh! > > > > Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > DISCLAIMER: This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Roxar Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. From shr42 at msn.com Tue Sep 2 04:00:59 2003 From: shr42 at msn.com (Stephen Redford) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? References: <001c01c370fb$5ac8b0f0$d87132a6@wcomnet.com> Message-ID: <043401c37139$1cdfa800$0200000a@stevered> -------I don't have Optima info , but I bought an "Odyssey Drycell Battery " . Here is the website ; www.odysseybatteries.com ... Maybe someone else has input on them also .... Stephen Redford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Pollan" To: "S-Cars (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? > My battery gave up the ghost. Under the seat is a Diehard. Would like > something different that does not fail without fail at the predetermined > Mean Time to Failure. I do recall reading that Optima makes a good battery > but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody would be so kind to provide > info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Mark Pollan > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From robert at s-cars.org Tue Sep 2 10:17:32 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902084958.028f2cb8@mail.charter.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Yall, Went for a holiday pleasure ride (of about 225-250 miles one way) up to the Canaan Valley in Tucker County, WV. Nice trip up there. Shortly after leaving home I stopped for fuel, 93 octane, at a station never before visited and filled the tank. On the way home the car was running fine until we got to the exact center of Nowhere, WV. 150 miles from home and at least 20 miles from ANYWHERE except, fortunately, one small home beside the road at the bottom of the mountain where we broke down. No tools of any significance, no spare parts, nowhere to work on the car. Cell phones won't work in the area - too far from any repeater. No Audi dealer or, for that matter, ANY "furrin" car dealer, anywhere in the region and even if there were they would have been closed due to the holiday. The homeowner was home and very helpful! We got off the road and managed, after several unfruitful calls in the general area, to get hold of a friend down here who operates a body shop and wrecker service. A three hour wait and he arrived, loaded us up, and brought us home. Got here three hours later at midnight with a $300 towing bill. :-( The car is now in my garage, up on jack stands, and I've been underneath. Pulled the MM hose. It's OK. No splits. Holds pressure. Clamps were secure. The car acts like it's not getting fuel. There is fuel pressure at both ends of the fuel filter. Therefore, it says here, the filter is not blocked and the fuel pump is working. The other most likely problem is then a large vacuum leak - possibly a split Michelin Man hose. That has been eliminated. No other obvious induction system openings were seen. The car: '95 urS6 with MTM 1+ chip and 3 bar PT - Stromung exhaust (not that that matters). 180K+ miles. Symptoms: After running fine for quite a while we hit several fairly heavy rainstorms. A little later the engine started to feel like it was getting just a little sluggish - a bit like it was "lugging" in too high a gear for the speed we were travelling. It was in the correct gear but that's how it felt. Over a minute or two it lost more and more power. It would idle - not well - but it did idle. I managed to turn it around halfway up the mountain we were climbing and to coast back down the mountain to where we found a little help - a telephone. By then it would no longer idle. Now it will not start. Possibilities which occur to me include: 1. vacuum leak. (MM hose ruled out - it's solid.) 2. failed PSO - if its the PSO it doesn't feel like an earlier PSO failure. It was a gradual loss of power, not a sudden one cylinder miss. 3. coil failure - doesn't feel like an earlier coil failure we had a couple of years back, either. 4. out of fuel - Fuel gauge showed just under 1/2 tank and we had traveled only about 220 or so miles on the tank since filling it up. It didn't run out of fuel. 5. water or other contamination in fuel? We were going up a fairly steep mountain when the problem developed. It doesn't feel or sound like just a miss in one cylinder. What it feels like is fuel starvation or possibly contaminated fuel. (From that strange fuel source.) Any additional suggestions? ____ The Bottom Line on Iraq: It's the bottom line. Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From dslagle at boardmanpark.com Tue Sep 2 10:30:28 2003 From: dslagle at boardmanpark.com (Dan Slagle) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Bob and Tom: The web page below lists all the differences for the Urs S4/S6 Cars. http://www.urs4.com/S4S6/S4S6_modelchanges.html HTH Dan 95.5 S6 -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rossato Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:19 PM To: Tom Mullane; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? The 95.5s have a production date of 7/95 and later, and a VIN of 121XXX. As far as I can tell there are no other external differences except for the IR receiver you mentioned. On the interior you also had a small center visor and a chrome button on the handbrake, but the wider radio and lack of rear diff lock are the easiest ways to tell. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Tom Mullane > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:26 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > > > Having just sold my 1991 200Q, I am in the market for a 1995.5 S6, > preferably black/black. No rush, I will wait for the right car > at the right > price. I am in the northeast, but I am looking anywhere along the eastern > seaboard instead of limiting my search to local cars. There seems to be a > good selection available, and, for some reason, prices seem to > have dipped a > bit over the summer. > > Anyway, I want the 95.5, but I often have trouble telling the difference > from photos and ads. I know that they were many changes during > the extended > 1995 model year, but what are some of the features that denote an > .5 car? I > know enough to look at the b pillar for the absence of IR buttons, and the > radio/cigarette lighter location, but what else? Does anyone know the > production date when the change occurred? How 'bout a VIN split? > Bueller? > > > TIA > > Tom Mullane > Hartford, CT > 1991 CQ > 1999 A6Q (da wife's) > Etc. > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From wmahoney at disk.com Tue Sep 2 10:05:14 2003 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." Message-ID: <003701c3715b$3ba4bb00$b3000f0a@D8HK3Q21> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Bob, Check the fuse on the right above the ecu. Sounds a lot like what happened when my #4 cylinder shorted to ground. i.e. stumble stumble coast to dead and will turn over but not start. I'd bet a dollar on it, big spender I am. I'm gonna swap out my other old coils some time soon or at least get an extra to install. HTH Bill m -- From thomas.pollock at amd.com Tue Sep 2 11:15:30 2003 From: thomas.pollock at amd.com (thomas.pollock@amd.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Cool Pictures !!! But where's the video ??? Message-ID: <027805EF1391C4469874BE41D64CBEBC01523937@maexmta1.amd.com> Fellow Audi fellas.... I just got a peek at Richs' S-Fest shots on the web site. Amazing !!! As I've already told Paul, words can not describe how bummed I was for having to miss the event. I was looking forward to seeing a lot of you again and hoisting a few. Two questions. Any one take any video ? and anyone got a better shot of Brians GT2 ? tom, still bummin. ____________________________________________________________ | _______ | | \____ | Advanced Tom Pollock | | /| | | Micro thomas.pollock@amd.com | | | |___| | Devices Voice: (978) 795-2534 | | |____/ \| Fax: (978) 795-2555 | |____________________________________________________________| From wmahoney at disk.com Tue Sep 2 10:24:20 2003 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Volunteer needed to try this.. Message-ID: <000001c3715d$e67d3b90$b3000f0a@D8HK3Q21> Folks, The June issue of the BBC's car magazine Top Gear featured a retrospective of Road Tests Rememered. I'm not saying it's right or wrong. I just report the facts Jack, and I quote: "Audi RS2- issue 14 I remember calling Audi UK way back in '94 to ask how best to launch this new 4WD 315hp estate car off the line. I was put on hold and soon the answer came back "Ingolstadt Audi HQ instructs to rev to the rev limiter and drop the clutch while holding full throttle." "You've got to be joking" I said. "No, they're German engineers, they do not joke." So I did and the resultant violent thumping from the drivetrain was very loud and painfully unpleasant. I never broke five seconds for the 0-60 dash, but impressively we didn't break the car either, despite further abuse at the Brighton Speed Trials. And 0-30 in 1.5 seconds is still a Top Gear road car record." Okay so let's review; Warm the car up. Bring RPMS up to 7,000. Pop the clutch. Oh and BTW - YMMV ;) Cheers' Bill m From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Tue Sep 2 16:24:58 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18DFA6D8F@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> I can check for you if you want. Just let me know. Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: c cohen [mailto:ccohen5@compuserve.com] Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:16 PM To: Frederic L'Huillier; Joern Amundsen; Audi S Car List; Audi20V_Kruemmer@yahoogroups.com; urq@audifans.com; qlist Subject: Re: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW Sounds logical - I will pass it on. Distributor's are like hen's teeth but I believe the factory has some for owners purchase only. Colin Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 2:14 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Problem SQ/KW Colin, My friend Norbert had similar problems with his SQ. Spark Plug cables and other electrical components were changed (included rare distributor) and the problem was solved. And no, I will not ask to have the car for one year !!!! Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From WQQ2PXK at ups.com Tue Sep 2 11:30:29 2003 From: WQQ2PXK at ups.com (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 4444 interrogation sequence... Message-ID: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F60356200E@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Igor secretagentman Kessel spied: <<>> Bwwahahahahaha... somehow can't help reading that Igor w/o hearing your Rusky accent overtones in it... 8-) I'll never pull codes the same now again, heh heh... -Paulienoaccent K. From wmahoney at disk.com Tue Sep 2 10:36:21 2003 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Cool Pictures !!! But where's the video ??? Message-ID: <000a01c3715f$94123980$b3000f0a@D8HK3Q21> Tom wondered... -anyone got a better shot of Brians GT2 ? " Tom- FWIW I think this is pretty much the definitive GT2 pic. http://www.s-cars.org/nationals/NESFEST03/EventPics/NES03-EVT/nes03-evt_ 69.html Bill M -(having been over served for the previous 18 hours or so;) From WQQ2PXK at ups.com Tue Sep 2 11:37:11 2003 From: WQQ2PXK at ups.com (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Norway ROX... Message-ID: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F603562039@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Joern offered up: <<>> Ahhhhhhhh, "List-dom" has reached it's finest hour... and now all is complete in the world. 8-) -P show me 'em K. From robert at s-cars.org Tue Sep 2 11:48:13 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." In-Reply-To: <003701c3715b$3ba4bb00$b3000f0a@D8HK3Q21> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902104628.028fae28@pop.registeredsite.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] When/where can I collect my dollar, Bill? :-) The fuse looks OK. It also checks out as zero resistance with my DMM. It's good. And now that I have the ECU exposed I guess it's a good time to check out the chips. I can't imagine them being at fault for the current problem, though but I'll check to see that they are firmly in their sockets, etc. At 10:05 AM 9/2/2003, Bill Mahoney wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >Bob, > >Check the fuse on the right above the ecu. Sounds a lot like what >happened when my #4 cylinder shorted to ground. i.e. stumble stumble >coast to dead and will turn over but not start. > >I'd bet a dollar on it, big spender I am. > >I'm gonna swap out my other old coils some time soon or at least get an >extra to install. > >HTH > >Bill m > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >--- >Incoming mail ain't got no nasty bugs. :-) >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 8/28/2003 ____ The last time anyone listened to a Bush they wandered in the desert for forty years. :-( Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From copley at snet.net Tue Sep 2 11:39:46 2003 From: copley at snet.net (copley) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <20030902081107.2537.80645.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: > Re: [s-cars] Brake Options? I did the Bira I kit on my 95.5 S-car and feel it is the best possible upgrade, next to shocks. I'm thinking it was maybe 1100 dollars installed? 100% positive review. The car doesn't see much track time anymore as I have another one for that, but the brakes are outstanding on street or track. no noise, no dust, just great firm stopping power. The s-car is for sale btw. paul From linust at mindspring.com Tue Sep 2 09:24:44 2003 From: linust at mindspring.com (Linus Toy) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000401c37166$56ca0970$1500a8c0@EvoToy> With judicious shopping, and maybe a little luck, you should be able to do the 993tt/RS2 bracket/A8L rotor conversion for $1100. Don't forget for any of these conversions, you have to change brake lines. _____ Linus Toy Mercer Island, WA linust@mindspring.com _____ > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of copley > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:40 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Brake Options? > > > > Re: [s-cars] Brake Options? > > I did the Bira I kit on my 95.5 S-car and feel it is the > best possible upgrade, next to shocks. > > I'm thinking it was maybe 1100 dollars installed? > > 100% positive review. > > > The car doesn't see much track time anymore as I have another > one for that, but the brakes are outstanding on street or > track. no noise, no dust, just great firm stopping power. > > The s-car is for sale btw. > > paul > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-> car-list > From robert at s-cars.org Tue Sep 2 12:37:30 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." Part Deux Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902113044.028f9720@mail.charter.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all (again), Patient: '95 urS6 with MTM 1+ chipset and 3 bar PT. More info. VAG-COM indicates no fault codes except that there is no signal from the engine speed sensor. Not surprising, eh what, with the engine not running? The ECU fuse is OK. I tried to fire it up and the engine caught fairly quickly and ran not too badly for about 5 seconds and then seemed to starve for fuel again and died. While it ran there was no obvious miss. Let me run something by everyone. I filled the tank yesterday morning before we went very far into our planned 400+ mile drive. My usual station was lined up several cars deep so I went on past it and stopped at a fairly new truck stop about 20 miles into the trip. I have never stopped there before. I topped up the tank with about 12 gallons of 93 and then headed on North. The outbound portion of the trip was basically freeway driving. No bad hills or sharp bends. Therefore no great accelerative forces. The return portion of the trip we decided to go back home the "fun way". Narrow two lane mountain roads with lots of fairly steep hills and sharp and fairly fast corners - lots of accelerative forces. D'ya s'pose this might have stirred up possible contamination (water? Lots of rain recently in the location of the truck stop) enough to have stopped the engine? I wonder if an extended cranking might free the system and get the engine to fire up again. Would this damage anything? -- From brian at atomicham.com Tue Sep 2 10:55:58 2003 From: brian at atomicham.com (Brian Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? Message-ID: > My battery gave up the ghost. Under the seat is a Diehard. Would like > something different that does not fail without fail at the > predetermined > Mean Time to Failure. I do recall reading that Optima makes a good > battery > but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody would be so kind to > provide > info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. I recently put in an Optima Red Top with Reverse Posts. They are wonderful. I bought rubber boots for the terminal plugs as the Optima sits a little high and could touch the metal lattice of the seat. I got the battery at an Interstate Battery Store for $110. The rubber boots I got from a local napa. Costco sells normal Optima Red Tops (without Reverse Posts) for like $90 if you are a member. You may have to do a little finagling to get the cables to the correct post, but, other listers have done it. Watching Le Mans this year, there was a shot from one of the pit crews yanking an Optima Red Top out of the Corvette and putting in another one... Cheers, Brian From fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 2 09:56:46 2003 From: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com (chris chambers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." Part Deux In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902113044.028f9720@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <20030902155646.73054.qmail@web14203.mail.yahoo.com> If you suspect water is in the fuel, I suggest draining the tank and replacing the fuel. Chris --- Robert Myers wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Hi Y'all (again), > > Patient: '95 urS6 with MTM 1+ chipset and 3 bar PT. > > More info. VAG-COM indicates no fault codes except that there is no > signal > from the engine speed sensor. Not surprising, eh what, with the > engine not > running? The ECU fuse is OK. > > I tried to fire it up and the engine caught fairly quickly and ran > not too > badly for about 5 seconds and then seemed to starve for fuel again > and > died. While it ran there was no obvious miss. > > Let me run something by everyone. I filled the tank yesterday > morning > before we went very far into our planned 400+ mile drive. My usual > station > was lined up several cars deep so I went on past it and stopped at a > fairly > new truck stop about 20 miles into the trip. I have never stopped > there > before. I topped up the tank with about 12 gallons of 93 and then > headed > on North. The outbound portion of the trip was basically freeway > driving. No bad hills or sharp bends. Therefore no great > accelerative > forces. The return portion of the trip we decided to go back home > the "fun > way". Narrow two lane mountain roads with lots of fairly steep hills > and > sharp and fairly fast corners - lots of accelerative forces. > > D'ya s'pose this might have stirred up possible contamination (water? > Lots > of rain recently in the location of the truck stop) enough to have > stopped > the engine? I wonder if an extended cranking might free the system > and get > the engine to fire up again. Would this damage anything? > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From tfrank at symyx.com Tue Sep 2 10:08:25 2003 From: tfrank at symyx.com (Trevor Frank) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? Message-ID: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39025AD4D0@xena2000.symyx.com> I put mine on it's side and built a little metal strap to hold it down. Since it's a gel cell it don't care how it's mounted. -----Original Message----- From: Brian Powell [mailto:brian@atomicham.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:56 AM To: mark.pollan@mci.com Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? > My battery gave up the ghost. Under the seat is a Diehard. Would like > something different that does not fail without fail at the > predetermined > Mean Time to Failure. I do recall reading that Optima makes a good > battery > but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody would be so kind to > provide > info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. I recently put in an Optima Red Top with Reverse Posts. They are wonderful. I bought rubber boots for the terminal plugs as the Optima sits a little high and could touch the metal lattice of the seat. I got the battery at an Interstate Battery Store for $110. The rubber boots I got from a local napa. Costco sells normal Optima Red Tops (without Reverse Posts) for like $90 if you are a member. You may have to do a little finagling to get the cables to the correct post, but, other listers have done it. Watching Le Mans this year, there was a shot from one of the pit crews yanking an Optima Red Top out of the Corvette and putting in another one... Cheers, Brian _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ======= Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Symyx Technologies, Inc. that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted, privileged and/or protected work product, and is meant solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately, permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From tmullane at snet.net Tue Sep 2 13:18:24 2003 From: tmullane at snet.net (Tom Mullane) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? References: Message-ID: <002601c3716d$d9154690$f7c1529f@corp.utc.com> Thanks to all who responded. Lots of useful info! Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Slagle" To: "'Bob Rossato'" ; "'Tom Mullane'" ; Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: RE: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > Bob and Tom: The web page below lists all the differences for the Urs > S4/S6 Cars. > > http://www.urs4.com/S4S6/S4S6_modelchanges.html > > HTH > > Dan > 95.5 S6 > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rossato > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 10:19 PM > To: Tom Mullane; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > The 95.5s have a production date of 7/95 and later, and a VIN of 121XXX. > As > far as I can tell there are no other external differences except for the > IR > receiver you mentioned. On the interior you also had a small center > visor > and a chrome button on the handbrake, but the wider radio and lack of > rear > diff lock are the easiest ways to tell. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Tom Mullane > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:26 PM > > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > > > > > > > Having just sold my 1991 200Q, I am in the market for a 1995.5 S6, > > preferably black/black. No rush, I will wait for the right car > > at the right > > price. I am in the northeast, but I am looking anywhere along the > eastern > > seaboard instead of limiting my search to local cars. There seems to > be a > > good selection available, and, for some reason, prices seem to > > have dipped a > > bit over the summer. > > > > Anyway, I want the 95.5, but I often have trouble telling the > difference > > from photos and ads. I know that they were many changes during > > the extended > > 1995 model year, but what are some of the features that denote an > > .5 car? I > > know enough to look at the b pillar for the absence of IR buttons, and > the > > radio/cigarette lighter location, but what else? Does anyone know the > > production date when the change occurred? How 'bout a VIN split? > > Bueller? > > > > > > TIA > > > > Tom Mullane > > Hartford, CT > > 1991 CQ > > 1999 A6Q (da wife's) > > Etc. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > > From bernard at littau.us Tue Sep 2 10:26:02 2003 From: bernard at littau.us (Bernard Littau) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902084958.028f2cb8@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <000901c3716e$e6dc89e0$1523dbcd@BLR31W2K> > The car is now in my garage, up on jack stands, and I've been > underneath. Pulled the MM hose. It's OK. No splits. Holds > pressure. Clamps were secure. The car acts like it's not getting > fuel. There is fuel pressure at both ends of the fuel filter. Therefore, > it says here, the filter is not blocked and the fuel pump is working. The > other most likely problem is then a large vacuum leak - possibly a split > Michelin Man hose. That has been eliminated. No other obvious induction > system openings were seen. Hi Robert, Static fuel pressure is not diagnostic for good flow. You need to measure the flow through the fuel filter. I'm betting clogged fuel filter, very likely due to water and other contamination from the "new" gas station you went to. Best, Bernard Littau Woodinville, WA From WQQ2PXK at ups.com Tue Sep 2 13:33:47 2003 From: WQQ2PXK at ups.com (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm Message-ID: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F603562307@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Bob frustrated: <<>> ...but Bob, that spare cluster of yours does look sooooooo good in my car now as result... I dig them trim rings around the gauges, not to mention my new E-brake indicator symbol (Canadian cluster with "!"). THANKS! 8-). -P anyone else got free parts K. From fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com Tue Sep 2 11:02:07 2003 From: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com (chris chambers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm In-Reply-To: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F603562307@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> Message-ID: <20030902170207.38334.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> How about some used cracked S4 headlight lenses...got any glue? Chris > > -P anyone else got free parts K. ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From peschulz at cisco.com Tue Sep 2 14:43:48 2003 From: peschulz at cisco.com (Peter Schulz) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:41 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Click>>>BOOM...yes Virginia, batteries can and do explode! NAC Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030902133217.0175e3b8@millcity.cisco.com> And I thought this only happened to other people... Patient was a 1992 Infiniti G20 owned by a friend of my wife's. She went to leave our house, turned the ignition key which was followed by a loud BOOM and smoke from under the hood. I opened the hood to find the vent caps missing from the battery, the top of the case cracked open and the stench of sulphur. If it had not been for the "over the case" battery clamp, the whole top would surely have blown off. The battery was a Nissan oem battery, After I liberally washed the area around the battery with baking soda and water, we were able to find a replacement at a nearby Autozone... I shudder to think what might have happened if this battery had been under the rear seat, as in one of my Avants. I assume what happened is that the water level was too low, and that the turning of the ignition switch caused an internal short that ignited the hydrogen? More reason to periodically check the water level in you batteries. -Peter Peter Schulz 1990 CQ (awaiting S2 3b engine transplant) 1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica 1991 200 20v TQW titanium grey Chelmsford, MA USA peter@audifans.com From tedebearp at yahoo.com Tue Sep 2 12:23:57 2003 From: tedebearp at yahoo.com (Theodore Chen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." Part Deux In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902113044.028f9720@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <20030902182357.22275.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> --- Robert Myers wrote: > > I tried to fire it up and the engine caught fairly quickly and ran not too > badly for about 5 seconds and then seemed to starve for fuel again and > died. While it ran there was no obvious miss. that does sound like fuel. you said there's pressure before and after the fuel filter. how do you know? are you able to check the pressure while the car is running? or you might want to replace the fuel filter as a matter of course. i know if i was down there mucking around, i'd replace the fuel filter. mine (112k miles) is still on the original filter as far as i know. -teddy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From Paul.Park at Colorado.EDU Tue Sep 2 15:45:36 2003 From: Paul.Park at Colorado.EDU (Paul Park) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs from TireRack Message-ID: <67C0567C-DD86-11D7-A7B6-000393A39D44@Colorado.EDU> Hey Guys, I placed my order for some Eibach Pro-kit springs. Gary@Tirerack assured me that the arse end of my car wouldn't be sky high. I guess I went with a lower progression rate spring as Gary told me that the springs would be less stiff than the H&R Sport Springs, providing a more compliant ride. He recommended that I not get the Race Springs, as they are a wee bit too tough for the street, and might not be a good fit for the Bilstein Sports. Had I gotten the Koni Adjustables, he would've whole heartedly recommended the H&R Race springs. To go with the Springs, I have Bilstein Sports, as well as Kumho Ecsta MXs. I've heard good things about the Kumhos, but never from anyone in the quattro crowd. Maybe I should've researched this a bit more, but I'm hoping these Eibach's will be noticeably stiffer than stock. But if I wanted a super stiff ride, I should've gotten the Koni's:) From robert at s-cars.org Tue Sep 2 17:49:09 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." All over again. Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902164013.082016a0@mail.charter.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all, OK, I think I've narrowed the no start - no run condition down to one of two likely causes. A new fuel filter was installed simply because it has been a LONG time since the last one. There is now no fuel pressure at the filter. Apparently what I observed earlier was simply the result of bleeding off a small residual pressure rather than as a result of a functioning fuel pump. So - it's is likely either the fuel pump or the fuel pump relay. Working on the basis of the fact that the relay will be less expensive than the pump I'd like to check the pump independently of the relay. A jumper across the load connectors of the FP relay socket will give the answer. My problem : where the holy H is this relay located? I've been looking all afternoon. Bentley has been no help. The Family Album has been no help. It does not appear to be in the fuse/relay box reached from under the hood above the driver's feet. That's where it has been on every other Audi I have ever owned. Where is it on this '95 urS6? Is it the same sort of relay my other Audis had? The one with the fuse socket in the top of the relay? _____ Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. _____ Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com Tue Sep 2 15:00:18 2003 From: jimk at spotgraphicsinc.com (Jim Klein) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] E85? Conversion? Message-ID: <3F5504DF.9AF1C656@spotgraphicsinc.com> Hi all, After finally gettting caught up with the TiVo in regard to MotorWeek episodes I noticed that they had backtoback features on E-85 (Ethanol fuel) and its benefits. Living in CA I don't see too much of the stuff and was sort of listening until they mentioned that E85 has a 105-Octane rating! Well, I perked right up and was enthralled. At the end they noted which vehicles were currently being manufactured that could either use normal fuel or E85 or any mic thereof. Presently, none appeared to be turbo- or super-charged. I was curious as to what components actually differed from normal vehicles and is this the kind of thing that is feasible to change or not really possible. I would imagine that it would be nice to have the option to use E-85 if that octane rating really is correct as well as the cost being lower (in some parts of the country at least). Has anyone else thought about this or is there something that I either missed or they didn't talk about that makes this a big no-go besides the likely cost. Jim Klein 95.5 S6 Avant sucking 91 octane Super-unleaded (big misnomer, IMO) at $2.41/gallon From trgreen at comcast.net Tue Sep 2 18:56:08 2003 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Tom Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re:[s-s-cars] 4444 interrogation sequence In-Reply-To: <20030902154244.25582.51655.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <41E8BFB8-DD90-11D7-9266-000502D6096C@comcast.net> Igor is correct, of course. The 4444 code is usually good news. Although not definitive in diagnosing the problem, it at least eliminates several things, including several valves slamming into pistons with enough force to activate the antiknock sensor :-) So you really don't go back to square one. PK still has some cold war issues that Ronny and Gorby didn't resolve ?? I think it's IVAN ( a cossack, no doubt ) who runs the Lubianka auto diagnostic center and is known for finding the answer. Igor already knows the answer, from Motronic telepathy, I think :-) Tom, spoofing the spooks. From trgreen at comcast.net Tue Sep 2 19:18:03 2003 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Tom Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery- What Model ? In-Reply-To: <20030902154244.25582.51655.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <51CD78F6-DD93-11D7-9266-000502D6096C@comcast.net> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Pollan" > To: "S-Cars (E-mail)" > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:38 PM > Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? > >> . I do recall reading that Optima makes a good battery >> but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody would be so kind to >> provide >> info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Regards, >> >> Mark Pollan Mark, I don't have a good answer. The web site is no help and the store I tried , Batteries Plus, was ambivalent. I had an orange top in my 5K, but it's no longer offered. I think most of the red top are the same size, all are top post, and the post is centered on the side of the case rather than on the corner where the position of the +/- would matter. I would only buy one from a store that would install also, to make sure the cables are long enough to reach the centered post. They also make a nice crate spacer to protect the terminals, a necessity of course. I would be looking for a high capacity model, but not a deep cycle. I see the batteries at Pep Boys, Advance Auto Parts, etc, so someone should have a good answer, Just don't get talked into some monkey boy fix to make it fit. The pos cable is expensive to replace. Tom '95 S6 From strangconst at rogers.com Tue Sep 2 21:17:12 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs from TireRack References: <67C0567C-DD86-11D7-A7B6-000393A39D44@Colorado.EDU> Message-ID: <007c01c371b0$b908f2a0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> They will be, but not uncomfortably so. I have had my Eibach's for about 4 or 5 years now. Never regretted it at all. I run 255 40 17's and don't have any problems with the ride. Good all round sport package. Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Park" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 4:45 PM Subject: [s-cars] ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs from TireRack > Hey Guys, > > I placed my order for some Eibach Pro-kit springs. Gary@Tirerack > assured me that the arse end of my car wouldn't be sky high. I guess I > went with a lower progression rate spring as Gary told me that the > springs would be less stiff than the H&R Sport Springs, providing a > more compliant ride. He recommended that I not get the Race Springs, as > they are a wee bit too tough for the street, and might not be a good > fit for the Bilstein Sports. Had I gotten the Koni Adjustables, he > would've whole heartedly recommended the H&R Race springs. > > To go with the Springs, I have Bilstein Sports, as well as Kumho Ecsta > MXs. I've heard good things about the Kumhos, but never from anyone in > the quattro crowd. > > Maybe I should've researched this a bit more, but I'm hoping these > Eibach's will be noticeably stiffer than stock. But if I wanted a super > stiff ride, I should've gotten the Koni's:) > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Tue Sep 2 21:22:37 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <1062388167.3f52c1c71b33f@webmail.colorado.edu> Message-ID: <000001c371b1$7ad70d90$2667fea9@principal> Hi Paul, Now that everybody have said BIRA is the only thing to do, I'll try another route. If you still have OEM rotors and pads, Pagid pads - or other aftermarket pads - do make a difference. I've changed to Zimmerman rotors at the same time as mine was warped but I don't think the rotor brand really make a difference in braking power. SS-braided lines give a very little advantage in acceleration as your wallet is lighter but it doesn't made any difference regarding the pedal feel for me. My OEM lines were toasted so I threw a few more box for Paradox lines instead of OEM but if your lines are fine, keep them. So, at the end, aftermarket pads may be a first cheap step toward more braking power. And the next step seems to be BIRA. Vincent '96 urS6 with spongy brake pedal thanks to the G60 -----Message d'origine----- De?: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Paul.Park@colorado.edu Envoy??: 31 ao?t 2003 23:49 ??: s-car-list@audifans.com Objet?: [s-cars] Brake Options? I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that aren't tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during road trips, which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert conditions. I just changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the "pedal to the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE Powerdiscs, and HAWK brake pads, would I notice anything in terms of Brake Fade and stopping distance? What are some options that will allow me to stop in a shorter distance, while not building up too much detrimental heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. 6, but if I can get away with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going with a sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track characteristic as Big Reds, then I'm all for that. SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to the Big Reds? Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com Tue Sep 2 21:26:35 2003 From: ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com (ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs from TireRack Message-ID: <1d9.102b6423.2c868f3b@aol.com> Hi Paul, I like the MX's both on the highway and track. Shawn Clarkston MI From strangconst at rogers.com Tue Sep 2 21:35:12 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? References: <000001c371b1$7ad70d90$2667fea9@principal> Message-ID: <009601c371b3$3d1225b0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> Vincent, I invite you to come try my Bira Sys 6 complete with the MS SYS 1 rear package next time your in the GTA !! Just let me know :) Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent Fr?geac" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? Hi Paul, Now that everybody have said BIRA is the only thing to do, I'll try another route. If you still have OEM rotors and pads, Pagid pads - or other aftermarket pads - do make a difference. I've changed to Zimmerman rotors at the same time as mine was warped but I don't think the rotor brand really make a difference in braking power. SS-braided lines give a very little advantage in acceleration as your wallet is lighter but it doesn't made any difference regarding the pedal feel for me. My OEM lines were toasted so I threw a few more box for Paradox lines instead of OEM but if your lines are fine, keep them. So, at the end, aftermarket pads may be a first cheap step toward more braking power. And the next step seems to be BIRA. Vincent '96 urS6 with spongy brake pedal thanks to the G60 -----Message d'origine----- De : s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Paul.Park@colorado.edu Envoy? : 31 ao?t 2003 23:49 ? : s-car-list@audifans.com Objet : [s-cars] Brake Options? I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that aren't tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during road trips, which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert conditions. I just changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the "pedal to the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE Powerdiscs, and HAWK brake pads, would I notice anything in terms of Brake Fade and stopping distance? What are some options that will allow me to stop in a shorter distance, while not building up too much detrimental heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. 6, but if I can get away with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going with a sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track characteristic as Big Reds, then I'm all for that. SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to the Big Reds? Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Tue Sep 2 21:51:59 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <009601c371b3$3d1225b0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> Message-ID: <000001c371b5$9508d870$2667fea9@principal> Mark, I'll never do that. I'm still able to love my urS6 but I know I'll hate it as soon as I try an urS with any decent brake upgrade. So, until my left pocket become stretched by a 1100USD heavy wallet, I'll keep away from any BIRA-equiped urS ;-) Thanks, Vincent. -----Message d'origine----- De?: Mark Strangways [mailto:strangconst@rogers.com] Envoy??: 2 sept. 2003 20:35 ??: Vincent Fr?geac; s-car-list@audifans.com Objet?: Re: [s-cars] Brake Options? Vincent, I invite you to come try my Bira Sys 6 complete with the MS SYS 1 rear package next time your in the GTA !! Just let me know :) Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vincent Fr?geac" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:22 PM Subject: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? Hi Paul, Now that everybody have said BIRA is the only thing to do, I'll try another route. If you still have OEM rotors and pads, Pagid pads - or other aftermarket pads - do make a difference. I've changed to Zimmerman rotors at the same time as mine was warped but I don't think the rotor brand really make a difference in braking power. SS-braided lines give a very little advantage in acceleration as your wallet is lighter but it doesn't made any difference regarding the pedal feel for me. My OEM lines were toasted so I threw a few more box for Paradox lines instead of OEM but if your lines are fine, keep them. So, at the end, aftermarket pads may be a first cheap step toward more braking power. And the next step seems to be BIRA. Vincent '96 urS6 with spongy brake pedal thanks to the G60 -----Message d'origine----- De : s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Paul.Park@colorado.edu Envoy? : 31 ao?t 2003 23:49 ? : s-car-list@audifans.com Objet : [s-cars] Brake Options? I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that aren't tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during road trips, which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert conditions. I just changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the "pedal to the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE Powerdiscs, and HAWK brake pads, would I notice anything in terms of Brake Fade and stopping distance? What are some options that will allow me to stop in a shorter distance, while not building up too much detrimental heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. 6, but if I can get away with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going with a sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track characteristic as Big Reds, then I'm all for that. SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to the Big Reds? Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? Thanks, Paul _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. 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Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From cgharibo at usa.net Tue Sep 2 22:06:08 2003 From: cgharibo at usa.net (Christopher Gharibo) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] FOR SALE: New Blau Headlight Harness Message-ID: <096HicBgi3824S10.1062551168@cmsweb10.cms.usa.net> I had purchased the headlight kit from Blau. And now that I am done upgrading to Euro+HID, I have decided to not use the wiring harness and it is available for sale. I believe, it's about $179 new. It is available for $145 plus shipping. It's complete, sealed with relays, instructions, dielectric grease, etc in original packaging. Let me know if you're interested. Chris This e-mail, including any attachments, may contain information that is protected by law as privileged and confidential, and is transmitted for the sole use of the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, copying or retention of this e-mail or the information contained herein is strictly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail or telephone and permanently delete this e-mail and its copies and prints. Thank you. From MCarmic661 at aol.com Tue Sep 2 22:08:17 2003 From: MCarmic661 at aol.com (MCarmic661@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Time to upgrade Message-ID: <178.1f83893f.2c869901@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Here's my situation, I own a 2000 VW VR6. Since the warranty is up I've begun doing some modifications (exhaust, chip, suspension, etc.). In that never-ending quest for ever greater performance I discovered that there is a definite limit to the mods I can do w/o spending extreme money. In talking to a trusted mechanic and friend I discovered that an Audi S4 may be the best bang for the buck. But in doing some Internet research of my own I discovered the S-Car site and found that there is a whole family of S-Cars. Given that my wife would stuff my lifeless corpse in the trunk of a new S4 if I came home exclaiming, "look at our (my) new car!", my only choice is to sell the VDub and buy a used vehicle. This she has agreed to, assuming that I break (more or less) even on the whole transaction. So my question is what would be the better choice of cars given my situation the 1991 200 Quattro or the early S4/S6 as far as performance, upgradeability, cost, reliability, etc.? Are there definitive opinions about each car? Please share your insights. Thanks in advance. From steve at thepowers.net Tue Sep 2 19:08:29 2003 From: steve at thepowers.net (steve powers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <002101c371b7$e3190f10$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> Headrests: see-through or solid. 95.5 cars have solid headrests. Steve Powers > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Bob Rossato > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:19 PM > To: Tom Mullane; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > > The 95.5s have a production date of 7/95 and later, and a > VIN of 121XXX. As far as I can tell there are no other > external differences except for the IR receiver you > mentioned. On the interior you also had a small center > visor and a chrome button on the handbrake, but the wider > radio and lack of rear diff lock are the easiest ways to tell. > > Bob > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Tom Mullane > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 9:26 PM > > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > > Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > > > > > > > Having just sold my 1991 200Q, I am in the market for a 1995.5 S6, > > preferably black/black. No rush, I will wait for the > right car at the > > right price. I am in the northeast, but I am looking > anywhere along > > the eastern seaboard instead of limiting my search to local cars. > > There seems to be a good selection available, and, for > some reason, > > prices seem to have dipped a > > bit over the summer. > > > > Anyway, I want the 95.5, but I often have trouble telling the > > difference from photos and ads. I know that they were > many changes > > during the extended 1995 model year, but what are some of > the features > > that denote an .5 car? I > > know enough to look at the b pillar for the absence of IR > buttons, and the > > radio/cigarette lighter location, but what else? Does > anyone know the > > production date when the change occurred? How 'bout a VIN split? > > Bueller? > > > > > > TIA > > > > Tom Mullane > > Hartford, CT > > 1991 CQ > > 1999 A6Q (da wife's) > > Etc. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/> s-car-list > From ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com Tue Sep 2 22:21:24 2003 From: ELLIEOLSEN at aol.com (ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? Message-ID: <163.2524744f.2c869c14@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In a message dated 9/2/2003 9:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve@thepowers.net writes: > > Headrests: see-through or solid. 95.5 cars have solid headrests. > > Steve Powers > > Not correct. My 95 has the solid headrest. It is the S4's which have the see through's. Shawn Clarkston MI 95 S6 MTM (solid headrest) 91 200q20v avant (see through headrest) From pizzoman at yahoo.com Tue Sep 2 19:33:59 2003 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery- What Model ? In-Reply-To: <51CD78F6-DD93-11D7-9266-000502D6096C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20030903013359.92636.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com> Guys, Get the red top and install it backwards. That's what I, er, um, I made Matt Russell do back when he was still on the Right Coast. All I, I mean he, had to do was cut the cables slightly (measure twice, cut once) to allow the right to be on the left and vice versa. I can take pictures and post them if someone likes, but that would require me getting off my fat Eye-talian ass. No problems to date, only solid 3 crank starts and no fires yet, so if that's "monkey boy-in' it", call me a gorilla (or call Matt a pipe smoking chimpanzee) Joe "da Gorilla" Pizzo --- Tom Green wrote: > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mark Pollan" > > To: "S-Cars (E-mail)" > > Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:38 PM > > Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? > > > >> . I do recall reading that Optima makes a good > battery > >> but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody > would be so kind to > >> provide > >> info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> Mark Pollan > > Mark, > > I don't have a good answer. The web site is no help > and the store I > tried , Batteries Plus, was ambivalent. I had an > orange top in my 5K, > but it's no longer offered. I think most of the red > top are the same > size, all are top post, and the post is centered on > the side of the > case rather than on the corner where the position of > the +/- would > matter. I would only buy one from a store that > would install also, to > make sure the cables are long enough to reach the > centered post. They > also make a nice crate spacer to protect the > terminals, a necessity of > course. I would be looking for a high capacity > model, but not a deep > cycle. I see the batteries at Pep Boys, Advance > Auto Parts, etc, so > someone should have a good answer, Just don't get > talked into some > monkey boy fix to make it fit. The pos cable is > expensive to replace. > > Tom '95 S6 > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== ------------------------------------- The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true. ------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From steve at thepowers.net Tue Sep 2 19:52:07 2003 From: steve at thepowers.net (steve powers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: <163.2524744f.2c869c14@aol.com> Message-ID: <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] It must've been a running change. I've seen Avants (definitely S6 AND 95 MY only) which have see-through headrests. Good data to know. Steve -----Original Message----- From: ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com [mailto:ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:21 PM To: steve@thepowers.net; bob.rossato@att.net; tmullane@snet.net; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In a message dated 9/2/2003 9:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve@thepowers.net writes: Headrests: see-through or solid. 95.5 cars have solid headrests. Steve Powers Not correct. My 95 has the solid headrest. It is the S4's which have the see through's. Shawn Clarkston MI 95 S6 MTM (solid headrest) 91 200q20v avant (see through headrest) -- From tmullane at snet.net Tue Sep 2 22:55:50 2003 From: tmullane at snet.net (Tom Mullane) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> Message-ID: <000c01c371be$83991b00$6701a8c0@tom1> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks, guys. It seems that so many changes were phased in that there are no real absolutes outside checking the VIN, which most ads post for carfax reasons. Tom -----Original Message----- From: steve powers [mailto:steve@thepowers.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 9:52 PM To: ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com; bob.rossato@att.net; tmullane@snet.net; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? It must've been a running change. I've seen Avants (definitely S6 AND 95 MY only) which have see-through headrests. Good data to know. Steve -----Original Message----- From: ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com [mailto:ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:21 PM To: steve@thepowers.net; bob.rossato@att.net; tmullane@snet.net; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In a message dated 9/2/2003 9:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, steve@thepowers.net writes: Headrests: see-through or solid. 95.5 cars have solid headrests. Steve Powers Not correct. My 95 has the solid headrest. It is the S4's which have the see through's. Shawn Clarkston MI 95 S6 MTM (solid headrest) 91 200q20v avant (see through headrest) -- From abiglizard at worldnet.att.net Tue Sep 2 21:03:52 2003 From: abiglizard at worldnet.att.net (Kenneth Hayes) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Time to upgrade... In-Reply-To: <178.1f83893f.2c869901@aol.com> Message-ID: my gf has a vr6 and it's a MUCH lighter, more responsive, even better braking car then the UrS cars. Drive one before you take the plunge. even though I haven't upgraded the suspension or brakes yet, I'd take my car in a heartbeat over my gf's (and so would she). the UrS cars are that much better, but the difference is big enough that you might want to drive one. so ask the list and you might find someone willing that lives near you. Ken 97s6 -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of MCarmic661@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:08 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Time to upgrade -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Here's my situation, I own a 2000 VW VR6. Since the warranty is up I've begun doing some modifications (exhaust, chip, suspension, etc.). In that never-ending quest for ever greater performance I discovered that there is a definite limit to the mods I can do w/o spending extreme money. In talking to a trusted mechanic and friend I discovered that an Audi S4 may be the best bang for the buck. But in doing some Internet research of my own I discovered the S-Car site and found that there is a whole family of S-Cars. Given that my wife would stuff my lifeless corpse in the trunk of a new S4 if I came home exclaiming, "look at our (my) new car!", my only choice is to sell the VDub and buy a used vehicle. This she has agreed to, assuming that I break (more or less) even on the whole transaction. So my question is what would be the better choice of cars given my situation the 1991 200 Quattro or the early S4/S6 as far as performance, upgradeability, cost, reliability, etc.? Are there definitive opinions about each car? Please share your insights. Thanks in advance. _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Near as I can figure, Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 8/28/2003 --- Near as I can figure, Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 8/28/2003 From russ at s-cars.org Tue Sep 2 21:28:38 2003 From: russ at s-cars.org (Russ Panneton) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> References: <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> Message-ID: <3F5551D6.5080005@s-cars.org> The 95.5 models don't have a rear diff lock; they got four channel ABS and EDL instead. Russ steve powers wrote: >This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >It must've been a running change. I've seen Avants (definitely S6 AND 95 >MY only) which have see-through headrests. > >Good data to know. > >Steve > >-----Original Message----- >From: ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com [mailto:ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com] >Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:21 PM >To: steve@thepowers.net; bob.rossato@att.net; tmullane@snet.net; >s-car-list@audifans.com >Subject: Re: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > >In a message dated 9/2/2003 9:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >steve@thepowers.net writes: > > > > > >Headrests: see-through or solid. 95.5 cars have solid headrests. > >Steve Powers > > > > > >Not correct. My 95 has the solid headrest. It is the S4's which have the >see through's. > >Shawn Clarkston MI >95 S6 MTM (solid headrest) >91 200q20v avant (see through headrest) > >-- > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > From stadmef at ntplx.net Tue Sep 2 23:15:59 2003 From: stadmef at ntplx.net (Frank Stadmeyer) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Car Fax Request and wiring fun In-Reply-To: <34674.192.168.1.50.1062475056.squirrel@frank.mercea.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030901204354.030b3dd8@mail.ntplx.net> <5.2.1.1.2.20030901204354.030b3dd8@mail.ntplx.net> Message-ID: <6.0.0.14.0.20030902215057.0250bb10@mail.ntplx.net> BTDT 2x's on 2 cars. First on my '91 200Q (Still working but I've had 1 reoccurrence of the gibberish MFD) Did this car once before not too long ago and the area wasn't looking too good when I got to it. This time It had a pretty good melt down of where those 2 pins that the PCB cracks at go through and the board was welded to the gauge holder. A little too much force and ...Voila it was broken ! OK, we know how to do this, get out the soldering iron and the 24 ga. wire and start the bypass surgery. When it was all done I stuck it in and the turn signals worked just fine but none of the instruments did. Great, out it came, looked it all over found nothing. Put back in and as I put one of the connectors on shortly after I thought I saw a small flash from somewhere behind and below the center A/C vents. I pulled it out and started the car, all the stuff works , lights, HVAC, def, . Subsequent investigation found the fuse to the IC blown. That's probably why the guages didn't work the first time. When I reassembled it the 2nd time something must have gone in the wrong place or pinched through the insulation and shorted. Chris Semple shipped me a new IC today. Let's hope the flash was either A. A figment of my imagination, or B. Something of no importance. BTW, anybody need a winter car? We're probably going to sell this car. My wife is getting the Passat tomorrow and she wants to saddle my son with the BaaS. "89 100 Q 207k Black/Black Runs Good Paint good but a few dings. The headliner has come off the sunroof. Has euros. Tires have good tread. New brakes. Just gone over by my mechanic to get ready for my so to take to school. If I get it fixed in time, he'll take it to Rochester, NY, this Sun. I need to fix a few things on the BaaS (exhaust leak, rust on the roof (?), and the headlights are way sandblasted) as soon as I get that done I'll switch with him and the car will be available. Thanksgiving at the latest. Location is either Rochester, NY or Hartford CT Make me an offer. At 11:57 PM 9/1/2003, Brett Dikeman wrote: > > Mandatory Audi content, > > I spent the weekend chasing instrument cluster problems in my son's '89 > > 100Q. It started with lightly glowing turn signals and ended with a > > flash. I quit while I was behind and called Chris Semple to get another IC > > and we'll see what went up with the flash. A quick lesson in wiring > > diagrams and I'll be all set. Good thing I have all the way until next > > Sum. before my son needs to go back to school with the car! > >Glowing turn signals(usually only with the headlights or highbeams on- can >also be accompanied by a dead/darkened trip computer display) is the infamous >cracked solder joint. Top of the PCB, right over the speedo. Easily fixed >either by solder(semi-temporary repair, good for another 100K) or running a >new wire or two between solder points(permanent repair)- no new IC needed, >unless you're positive you fried something(and even then, it may only be the >voltage regulator, which is easily replaced). The instructions have been >linked to many times in posts to the 200q20v list- I think Chris Miller's page >probably also has a link to them. > >Brett From bob.rossato at att.net Tue Sep 2 23:33:48 2003 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <000001c371b1$7ad70d90$2667fea9@principal> Message-ID: I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with the OEM set up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the system gets too much flex in it and you start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks as the pocket book allows. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Vincent Fr=E9geac > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:23 PM > To: Paul.Park@colorado.edu; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? > > > Hi Paul, > > Now that everybody have said BIRA is the only thing to do, I'll try > another route. If you still have OEM rotors and pads, Pagid pads - or > other aftermarket pads - do make a difference. I've changed to Zimmerman > rotors at the same time as mine was warped but I don't think the rotor > brand really make a difference in braking power. SS-braided lines give a > very little advantage in acceleration as your wallet is lighter but it > doesn't made any difference regarding the pedal feel for me. My OEM > lines were toasted so I threw a few more box for Paradox lines instead > of OEM but if your lines are fine, keep them. > > So, at the end, aftermarket pads may be a first cheap step toward more > braking power. And the next step seems to be BIRA. > > > > Vincent > '96 urS6 with spongy brake pedal thanks to the G60 > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de > Paul.Park@colorado.edu > Envoy=E9=A0: 31 ao=FBt 2003 23:49 > =C0=A0: s-car-list@audifans.com > Objet=A0: [s-cars] Brake Options? > > I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that > aren't > tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. > > I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during road > trips, > which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert conditions. I > just > changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the > "pedal to > the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. > > If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE Powerdiscs, and > HAWK > brake pads, would I notice anything in terms of Brake Fade and stopping > distance? > > What are some options that will allow me to stop in a shorter distance, > while > not building up too much detrimental heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. > 6, but > if I can get away with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going > with a > > sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track characteristic as > Big Reds, > > then I'm all for that. > > SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to the Big > Reds? > Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? > > Thanks, > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From konecc at snet.net Tue Sep 2 23:51:39 2003 From: konecc at snet.net (Rich Assarabowski) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000101c371c6$4fcaa610$a5c2fea9@abitintel> Along those lines, any suggestions on what a good pad is for the stock brakes? Pagid? Which one? Any pad out there that makes less dust but still has good pedal feel? Had a set of organic pads once on my Coupe GT that had zero dust but no braking in the wet for the first second or two -- scary! -- Rich >I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no >longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with >the OEM set up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the system gets too much flex in it and you >start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all >the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks as the pocket book allows. > >Bob From strangconst at rogers.com Wed Sep 3 00:04:01 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? References: <000101c371c6$4fcaa610$a5c2fea9@abitintel> Message-ID: <00da01c371c8$06e38dc0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> I have that with my 996 pads. You really have to remember that when leaving the drive thru car wash. I almost found that out the hard way last winter. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Assarabowski" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:51 PM Subject: RE: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? > Along those lines, any suggestions on what a good pad is for the stock > brakes? Pagid? Which one? Any pad out there that makes less dust but > still has good pedal feel? Had a set of organic pads once on my Coupe > GT that had zero dust but no braking in the wet for the first second or > two -- scary! > > -- Rich > > > > >I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the > difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no > >longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have > confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with >the OEM set > up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the > system gets too much flex in it and you > >start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some > money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all > >the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks > as the pocket book allows. > > > >Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Djdawson2 at aol.com Wed Sep 3 00:04:46 2003 From: Djdawson2 at aol.com (Djdawson2@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Time to upgrade Message-ID: <1a3.199b3a41.2c86b44e@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] FWIW, I owned both a 91 200 and a 93 S4 at the same time. The 91 200 is a great car for what it is, but leaves a lot to be asked for in terms of handling. The 93 S4 is far superior in that regard... and I'm not really sure why. The suspensions are identical in the rear, and the front has the same design. The only difference I have noticed, is that the location of the control arm mounting point on the subframe is moved further to the rear on the S cars than it is on the 200s. Perhaps this makes a more rigid front suspension. Also, it seems that the chassis as a whole is more rigid on the S cars. Given the choice to buy either car, I would choose the S cars hands down, despite the difference in cost. Performance potential of either car (in terms of power) is very good. Last... braking on either car is a severe weakness, and they share braking components (G60 stuff) unless you get a UFO equipped 200. It is only exaggerated by the S car's greater weight. I immediately equipped my 200 with "big reds," late A8 rotors (323s I believe), and RS2 caliper adapters. I moved all of these parts over to the S4 when I purchased it. This, to me, is an invaluable upgrade... one I would put before any power changes... but it will set you back about $900-1100, depending on how you shop. HTH, Dave in CO From strangconst at rogers.com Wed Sep 3 00:01:18 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? References: Message-ID: <00d001c371c7$a5e8e4c0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> I think alot of the improved feel of replacing the pads up front comes from just getting the rear brakes re-adjusted tighter to the rotors. To that extent, after I upgraded to my 996 set-up I went out to do some bedding and tests. I was less than impressed with the pedal feel, since we had not really touched the rears any. We suction bleed the fronts and therefore had very little manual brake pedal push bleeding. I decided to check things out with out the rear brake circuit connected. Well the pedal now felt like stone. Even with fat tires I was able to lock the fronts up (with out ABS ) which is very hard to do with the rear's connected. Now, I have also driven an S6 with a coleman replicator front rotor (not sure of the Dia.) and the G60's on a custom bracket. There was absolutely nothing wrong with the feel or the stopping power of that set-up. There is a combination of problems with the stock G60 set-up. Diameter of the rotor, thickness and cooling of the rotor, and pad material all contribute to the stock set-up's down falls. This ofcourse is just my HO, and YMMV. And to sum up how much I like my 996/993 conversion, I trashed my GOOD summer rims because I could not get a set of 17" steel rims and snow tires for last winter. But there was no way in hell the brakes where coming off for the winter, as I had planned. Hope it wasn't too long winded :-) Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Rossato" To: "Vincent Fr?geac" ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:33 PM Subject: RE: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with the OEM set up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the system gets too much flex in it and you start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks as the pocket book allows. Bob > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Vincent Fr?geac > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:23 PM > To: Paul.Park@colorado.edu; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? > > > Hi Paul, > > Now that everybody have said BIRA is the only thing to do, I'll try > another route. If you still have OEM rotors and pads, Pagid pads - or > other aftermarket pads - do make a difference. I've changed to Zimmerman > rotors at the same time as mine was warped but I don't think the rotor > brand really make a difference in braking power. SS-braided lines give a > very little advantage in acceleration as your wallet is lighter but it > doesn't made any difference regarding the pedal feel for me. My OEM > lines were toasted so I threw a few more box for Paradox lines instead > of OEM but if your lines are fine, keep them. > > So, at the end, aftermarket pads may be a first cheap step toward more > braking power. And the next step seems to be BIRA. > > > > Vincent > '96 urS6 with spongy brake pedal thanks to the G60 > -----Message d'origine----- > De : s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de > Paul.Park@colorado.edu > Envoy? : 31 ao?t 2003 23:49 > ? : s-car-list@audifans.com > Objet : [s-cars] Brake Options? > > I'm wondering if the 993TT/996TT brakes are beneficial to cars that > aren't > tracked at all, but driven hard on a daily basis. > > I guess what I'm looking for, is a system that is competent during road > trips, > which would be, for me at least, 4-5 hours through desert conditions. I > just > changed my brake fluid, so I'm hoping I never have to experience the > "pedal to > the floor without any noticeable slowing down" feeling. > > If I were to upgrade to stainless steel brake lines, ATE Powerdiscs, and > HAWK > brake pads, would I notice anything in terms of Brake Fade and stopping > distance? > > What are some options that will allow me to stop in a shorter distance, > while > not building up too much detrimental heat? My dream is to go BIRA Stg. > 6, but > if I can get away with upgrading the rotors/pads/lines, as well as going > with a > > sticker tire that'll give me a comparable non-track characteristic as > Big Reds, > > then I'm all for that. > > SO I guess to sum it all up, how do upgrade G60s compare to the Big > Reds? > Anyone have experience with Wilwoods? Alcons? > > Thanks, > Paul > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From motogo1 at cox.net Wed Sep 3 00:09:36 2003 From: motogo1 at cox.net (motogo1) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? References: <000101c371c6$4fcaa610$a5c2fea9@abitintel> Message-ID: <000901c371e1$f3eece40$6401a8c0@ri.cox.net> I've been happy with Mintex Red Box. But then again, I haven't used others so I really can't compare. Maybe others can. Gary Martin 94 UrS4 91 200 TQA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Assarabowski" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: RE: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? > Along those lines, any suggestions on what a good pad is for the stock > brakes? Pagid? Which one? Any pad out there that makes less dust but > still has good pedal feel? Had a set of organic pads once on my Coupe > GT that had zero dust but no braking in the wet for the first second or > two -- scary! > > -- Rich > > > > >I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the > difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no > >longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have > confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with >the OEM set > up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the > system gets too much flex in it and you > >start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some > money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all > >the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks > as the pocket book allows. > > > >Bob > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Wed Sep 3 00:18:40 2003 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <00d001c371c7$a5e8e4c0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> Message-ID: > I think alot of the improved feel of replacing the pads up front > comes from > just getting the rear brakes re-adjusted tighter to the rotors. I actually found the opposite was true in my case. I had replaced the rears last year with Zimmerman's and Textar pads and while the pedal feel improved somewhat, it still wasn't all that great. A few weeks ago I finally broke down and threw in a new set of OEM front rotors and pads (Zimmermans and Mintex Redbox this time) as a stop gap and that created a step change in pedal feel. It's not rock solid like it is with the Porsche caliper upgrades but it is an order of magnitude greater than worn, or even semi-worn, OEM brakes. Bob From cpayne at bconnected.com Tue Sep 2 22:27:49 2003 From: cpayne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C99E749@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Porterfield R4S's have suited me fine but not a track pad. I have noticed NO additional squealing w/ the R4S's as I had w/ my Mintex RedBox. The R4's are pretty insane w/ their initial "bite" on the track and do not fade at all w/ my Euro A8 Rotors. cp -----Original Message----- From: Rich Assarabowski [mailto:konecc@snet.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:52 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? Along those lines, any suggestions on what a good pad is for the stock brakes? Pagid? Which one? Any pad out there that makes less dust but still has good pedal feel? Had a set of organic pads once on my Coupe GT that had zero dust but no braking in the wet for the first second or two -- scary! -- Rich >I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no >longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with >the OEM set up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the system gets too much flex in it and you >start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all >the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks as the pocket book allows. > >Bob _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From toddekramer at msn.com Tue Sep 2 22:38:18 2003 From: toddekramer at msn.com (TODD KRAMER) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery Choices Message-ID: Try optimabatterystore.com; prices are competitive and they pay shipping. They frequently list on Ebay. I went with a yellowtop (significant audio package in my car) and mounted it on its side, tied down with the stock bracket (drill the hole out a bit) and created some slack in the stock cables by removing some of the wireties ... and then protected the terminals with covers from Kragen / Checker. Nothing like decent cold cranking amps when it is around zero degrees at altitude. ________________________ Todd E. Kramer toddekramer@msn.com and for the S-list locator: Salt Lake City, UT 84103 (801) 531-7491 '95 S6 with RS attitude and solid headrests _________________________________________________________________ Get MSN 8 and help protect your children with advanced parental controls. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/parental From linust at mindspring.com Tue Sep 2 22:44:49 2003 From: linust at mindspring.com (Linus Toy) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] '91 200q for sale! Message-ID: <001601c37197$e5842930$1500a8c0@EvoToy> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] New (to me) car is here, so this one must go :( This car has served me faithfully for 10 years and while I hate to sell it, I can't justify keeping it any longer ...(but I'm not out of the Audi family completely!) the basics: * '91 200q 20vt, 107k miles * Zyclamen red (burgundy), Tan sport seat interior * IA Stage III+ (to go) * 993tt "big red" calipers, A8L rotors (to stop) * urS4 16x8 forged alloys w/ near new AVS-int (to turn) * H&R V8 springs w/ Bilstein dampers (also to turn) * overall good condition, mechanically great, a couple cosmetic issues, not critical Asking $7500/obo more details & pictures: http://www.mindspring.com/~micarnut/ _____ Linus Toy Mercer Island, WA linust@mindspring.com _____ -- From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Wed Sep 3 01:56:31 2003 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 4444 interrogation sequence... References: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F60356200E@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> Message-ID: <3F55747F.5D3A22FF@verizon.net> Tonight, returning from work, I observed that the maximum boost achievable before onset of symptoms was 0.9 barg. Running codes with the car still running when I got home yielded .... 4444. Need to check underneath, I think. kirby, overcome by yankee accent. "Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)" wrote: > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Igor secretagentman Kessel spied: > > << That is the end of the interrogation sequence. If you see nothing > in-between the two adjacent 4444, then there are no recorded faults. > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros>>> > > Bwwahahahahaha... somehow can't help reading that Igor w/o hearing your > Rusky accent overtones in it... 8-) I'll never pull codes the same now > again, heh heh... > > -Paulienoaccent K. > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From feb at febsun.cmhnet.org Wed Sep 3 02:19:54 2003 From: feb at febsun.cmhnet.org (Franco Barber) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> References: <163.2524744f.2c869c14@aol.com> <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> Message-ID: <20030903051954.GA3915@febsun.cmhnet.org> The way I remember it ... the 95 A6/S6 SEDAN had closed headrests, the 95 A6/S6 AVANT had open headrests, and the 95.5 S6 AVANT and SEDAN had closed headrests. Franco On Tue, Sep 02, 2003 at 06:52:07PM -0700, steve powers wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > It must've been a running change. I've seen Avants (definitely S6 AND 95 > MY only) which have see-through headrests. > > Good data to know. > > Steve > > -----Original Message----- > From: ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com [mailto:ELLIEOLSEN@aol.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:21 PM > To: steve@thepowers.net; bob.rossato@att.net; tmullane@snet.net; > s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? > > > In a message dated 9/2/2003 9:15:02 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > steve@thepowers.net writes: > > > > > > Headrests: see-through or solid. 95.5 cars have solid headrests. > > Steve Powers > > > > > > Not correct. My 95 has the solid headrest. It is the S4's which have the > see through's. > > Shawn Clarkston MI > 95 S6 MTM (solid headrest) > 91 200q20v avant (see through headrest) > > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- Franco Barber feb@febsun.cmhnet.org 95 A6Q w/Gamma CD mit RDS! Columbus, Ohio USA 95 A6Q 5spd w/HCB-30 bluetooth car kit! From tdfeller at comcast.net Tue Sep 2 23:35:31 2003 From: tdfeller at comcast.net (Tom Feller) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? Message-ID: <001001c371dd$34436910$9100a8c0@basement> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am new to the list but not new to Audi's. I am in the process of dialing in my new 92' urS4. MTM Stage-1, VMAP sensor, Samco hoses, Bilsteins, sturt bearings, stereo, . you get the idea. After reading all the raves about the brake upgrades I am ready to do the job. So how about some details on how/where to shop "smart" for the necessary parts. Thanks Tom Feller 92 S4 (New), 95 90 (wife), 93 Passat (Daugther) 84 Carrera, (Just sold 87 5KTQ, a great car that will be missed!) -- From iduff at rcn.com Wed Sep 3 02:41:28 2003 From: iduff at rcn.com (Ian Duff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Click>>>BOOM...yes Virginia, batteries can and do explode! NAC In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20030902133217.0175e3b8@millcity.cisco.com> Message-ID: <011201c371de$08528510$6601a8c0@ian> Not necessarily a low on juice battery. My wife's old 95 VW Passat did the same thing to us when it had something less than 10K miles. We got it very soon after it came off the boat, so it hadn't been rusting its rotors in the dealer lot waiting for us to come along, either. Dunno why it happened to a new car, but a similar "boom", puff of smoke out from the edges of the hood, and no joy. Must be FM (flipping magic...) -Ian Duff. -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Peter Schulz Sent: Tuesday, 02 September, 2003 1:44 PM To: 200q20v@audifans.com; 20v; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Click>>>BOOM...yes Virginia, batteries can and do explode! NAC And I thought this only happened to other people... Patient was a 1992 Infiniti G20 owned by a friend of my wife's. She went to leave our house, turned the ignition key which was followed by a loud BOOM and smoke from under the hood. I opened the hood to find the vent caps missing from the battery, the top of the case cracked open and the stench of sulphur. If it had not been for the "over the case" battery clamp, the whole top would surely have blown off. The battery was a Nissan oem battery, After I liberally washed the area around the battery with baking soda and water, we were able to find a replacement at a nearby Autozone... I shudder to think what might have happened if this battery had been under the rear seat, as in one of my Avants. I assume what happened is that the water level was too low, and that the turning of the ignition switch caused an internal short that ignited the hydrogen? More reason to periodically check the water level in you batteries. -Peter Peter Schulz 1990 CQ (awaiting S2 3b engine transplant) 1991 200 20v TQW indigo mica 1991 200 20v TQW titanium grey Chelmsford, MA USA peter@audifans.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Q at IntendedAcceleration.com Wed Sep 3 02:48:36 2003 From: Q at IntendedAcceleration.com (Ned Ritchie) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902084958.028f2cb8@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <001301c371f8$2d31c390$3da8fea9@X1> If it was a 200 I'd say pour the water out of the computer & dry it out :) Water will find its way down from the windshield. Ned -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:18 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Yall, Went for a holiday pleasure ride (of about 225-250 miles one way) up to the Canaan Valley in Tucker County, WV. Nice trip up there. Shortly after leaving home I stopped for fuel, 93 octane, at a station never before visited and filled the tank. On the way home the car was running fine until we got to the exact center of Nowhere, WV. 150 miles from home and at least 20 miles from ANYWHERE except, fortunately, one small home beside the road at the bottom of the mountain where we broke down. No tools of any significance, no spare parts, nowhere to work on the car. Cell phones won't work in the area - too far from any repeater. No Audi dealer or, for that matter, ANY "furrin" car dealer, anywhere in the region and even if there were they would have been closed due to the holiday. The homeowner was home and very helpful! We got off the road and managed, after several unfruitful calls in the general area, to get hold of a friend down here who operates a body shop and wrecker service. A three hour wait and he arrived, loaded us up, and brought us home. Got here three hours later at midnight with a $300 towing bill. :-( The car is now in my garage, up on jack stands, and I've been underneath. Pulled the MM hose. It's OK. No splits. Holds pressure. Clamps were secure. The car acts like it's not getting fuel. There is fuel pressure at both ends of the fuel filter. Therefore, it says here, the filter is not blocked and the fuel pump is working. The other most likely problem is then a large vacuum leak - possibly a split Michelin Man hose. That has been eliminated. No other obvious induction system openings were seen. The car: '95 urS6 with MTM 1+ chip and 3 bar PT - Stromung exhaust (not that that matters). 180K+ miles. Symptoms: After running fine for quite a while we hit several fairly heavy rainstorms. A little later the engine started to feel like it was getting just a little sluggish - a bit like it was "lugging" in too high a gear for the speed we were travelling. It was in the correct gear but that's how it felt. Over a minute or two it lost more and more power. It would idle - not well - but it did idle. I managed to turn it around halfway up the mountain we were climbing and to coast back down the mountain to where we found a little help - a telephone. By then it would no longer idle. Now it will not start. Possibilities which occur to me include: 1. vacuum leak. (MM hose ruled out - it's solid.) 2. failed PSO - if its the PSO it doesn't feel like an earlier PSO failure. It was a gradual loss of power, not a sudden one cylinder miss. 3. coil failure - doesn't feel like an earlier coil failure we had a couple of years back, either. 4. out of fuel - Fuel gauge showed just under 1/2 tank and we had traveled only about 220 or so miles on the tank since filling it up. It didn't run out of fuel. 5. water or other contamination in fuel? We were going up a fairly steep mountain when the problem developed. It doesn't feel or sound like just a miss in one cylinder. What it feels like is fuel starvation or possibly contaminated fuel. (From that strange fuel source.) Any additional suggestions? ____ The Bottom Line on Iraq: It's the bottom line. Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From paul.heneghan at bbc.co.uk Wed Sep 3 12:22:49 2003 From: paul.heneghan at bbc.co.uk (Paul Heneghan) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped Message-ID: Hello chaps, My annual inspection has just shown that I've got a split CV joint boot (front left outer). I presume the replacement method is the same as on the old 100 (5000 in the US). I can't remember how much of the suspension I've got to dismantle - do I need to disconnect the anti-roll bar (sway bar in the US) and the tie rod and the lower control arm? I remember years ago on a VW Passat being able to remove the drive shaft without disconecting any of those things. Should I replace the hub nut (or is it a bolt these day?). I'd be grateful for any BTDTs. Paul BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically stated. If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. Further communication will signify your consent to this. From lee at wheelman.com Wed Sep 3 09:27:50 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <000901c371e1$f3eece40$6401a8c0@ri.cox.net> Message-ID: Gary writes: > > I've been happy with Mintex Red Box. But then again, I haven't used others > so I really can't compare. Maybe others can. I melted a rear Mintex Red in some repeated heavy braking. I would *not* want to drive these pads in the mountains. Now I'm running Hawk HPS. Lee '95.5 S6 Avant '96 A6 quattro avant From lee at wheelman.com Wed Sep 3 09:27:51 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 95 versus 95.5 - how to tell? In-Reply-To: <000301c371bd$fb959df0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> Message-ID: > It must've been a running change. I've seen Avants (definitely S6 AND 95 > MY only) which have see-through headrests. And the headrests are not interchangeable. The open headrests have a wider mount than the solid headrests. Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From lee at wheelman.com Wed Sep 3 09:27:51 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs from TireRack In-Reply-To: <007c01c371b0$b908f2a0$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> Message-ID: Mark writes: > They will be, but not uncomfortably so. > I have had my Eibach's for about 4 or 5 years now. Never regretted it at > all. > I run 255 40 17's and don't have any problems with the ride. > I'm running exactly the same setup and I'm very happy with both the handling and the ride. On the other hand, I hated it with Kumho 712s...a very stiff and heavy tire. My current Toyos are *much* smoother, not to mention lighter. Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From beernuts at online.no Wed Sep 3 16:16:21 2003 From: beernuts at online.no (=?iso-8859-1?B?Qmr4cm4g2GRlZ+VyZA==?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped References: Message-ID: <0a7101c3721d$91493d20$10294bc1@roxardomain.roxar.com> If you do both the booths at the same time, you don't have todismantle anything in the suspension, but the sound dampening pan and the front wheel. (apart from removing the axle, that is..) the boot comes with a new bolt and grease, and you just have to go to your local parts store and get the crimp tool or new clamps, or bring the whole axle to your retailer for crimping.. Undo and fasten the bolt with the tyre on the ground, (hmm.. Got a nice write-up from mr. Munro, IIRC..) and check the Bentley or the web for torque.. Also, the bolts that fixes the driveshaft to the gearbox flange are triple square, not unbrako, and is easiest loosened with a long extension through the wheelwell. HTH, Bjorn :o) '92 S4 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Heneghan" To: Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:22 PM Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped > Hello chaps, > > My annual inspection has just shown that I've got a split CV joint boot > (front left outer). I presume the replacement method is the same as on > the old 100 (5000 in the US). I can't remember how much of the > suspension I've got to dismantle - do I need to disconnect the anti-roll > bar (sway bar in the US) and the tie rod and the lower control arm? I > remember years ago on a VW Passat being able to remove the drive shaft > without disconecting any of those things. > > Should I replace the hub nut (or is it a bolt these day?). > > I'd be grateful for any BTDTs. > > Paul > > BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ > > This e-mail (and any attachments) is confidential and may contain > personal views which are not the views of the BBC unless specifically > stated. > If you have received it in error, please delete it from your system. > Do not use, copy or disclose the information in any way nor act in > reliance on it and notify the sender immediately. Please note that the > BBC monitors e-mails sent or received. > Further communication will signify your consent to this. > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > DISCLAIMER: This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Roxar Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorised to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. From smarinello at charter.net Wed Sep 3 09:24:41 2003 From: smarinello at charter.net (Steve Marinello) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Time to upgrade References: <1a3.199b3a41.2c86b44e@aol.com> Message-ID: <006701c3721e$bc1f9e80$6401a8c0@TerralogGOM> Dave: Remember the first Second Creek run with the q club and the 200 avant from New Mexico that was faster around the track than any of the S4's, even the 300 hp ones (not to mention us in our urq's)? Was he that much better a driver (the car was stock) or does that just support the contention that the avant handle better? Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Time to upgrade > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > FWIW, I owned both a 91 200 and a 93 S4 at the same time. The 91 200 is a > great car for what it is, but leaves a lot to be asked for in terms of handling. > The 93 S4 is far superior in that regard... and I'm not really sure why. > The suspensions are identical in the rear, and the front has the same design. > The only difference I have noticed, is that the location of the control arm > mounting point on the subframe is moved further to the rear on the S cars than it > is on the 200s. Perhaps this makes a more rigid front suspension. Also, it > seems that the chassis as a whole is more rigid on the S cars. Given the > choice to buy either car, I would choose the S cars hands down, despite the > difference in cost. Performance potential of either car (in terms of power) is very > good. > > Last... braking on either car is a severe weakness, and they share braking > components (G60 stuff) unless you get a UFO equipped 200. It is only > exaggerated by the S car's greater weight. I immediately equipped my 200 with "big > reds," late A8 rotors (323s I believe), and RS2 caliper adapters. I moved all of > these parts over to the S4 when I purchased it. This, to me, is an invaluable > upgrade... one I would put before any power changes... but it will set you > back about $900-1100, depending on how you shop. > HTH, > Dave in CO > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mplatt911 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 3 08:18:32 2003 From: mplatt911 at yahoo.com (Mike Platt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped Message-ID: <20030903141832.45795.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Hi Paul, Just did my right front outer a month ago. By the Genuine LoBro kit from a good foreign parts store. It comes with bolt, bands, clip, boot, and grease. Cost... about $20 Here is what you need to do( from what I remember): 1) Loosen hub bolt with car on ground. 2) Jack car up, remove tire. 3) Disconnect sway bar from body (the hardest part of job, I felt. 4)Disconnect ball joint, I needed a pry pipe, PB blaster, and a hammer. 5)Remove bolt for CV joint. 6) pull shaft out 7) Put bolt back on joint and tighten to remove CV joint from shaft 8) Put on new boot, circlip and repack joint with grease 9) Slide everything back on shaft. Watch those splines, or you'll be filing them down to get them to realign (don't ask) 10)Put joint back in hub 11) put bolt back on, snug up 12)Put ball joint back in. I used antiseize on it and cleaned out mounting points. 13)Reconnect sway bar to body. Real tough part. I used a jack to put pressure on bar. Two man job for me: 1 kid and I. 14) Lower car and torque bolt to specs. I think it was 150lbs plus 1/4 turn in the Bentley. Took me about 3 hrs. If there is a way around the bar issue, Id like to know how. I couldn't get the ball joint out until, I did that.....or you can pay a garage about $150 to do it all. Good Luck. Mike P. 95.5 S6 avant Hello chaps, My annual inspection has just shown that I've got a split CV joint boot (front left outer). I presume the replacement method is the same as on the old 100 (5000 in the US). I can't remember how much of the suspension I've got to dismantle - do I need to disconnect the anti-roll bar (sway bar in the US) and the tie rod and the lower control arm? I remember years ago on a VW Passat being able to remove the drive shaft without disconecting any of those things. Should I replace the hub nut (or is it a bolt these day?). I'd be grateful for any BTDTs. Paul __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From trgreen at comcast.net Wed Sep 3 11:39:21 2003 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Tom Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery- What Model ? In-Reply-To: <20030903013359.92636.qmail@web20804.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <6808D052-DE1C-11D7-A3AA-000502D6096C@comcast.net> On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 09:33 PM, Joseph Pizzimenti wrote: > Get the red top and install it backwards > No problems to date, only solid 3 crank starts and no > fires yet, so if that's "monkey boy-in' it", call me a > gorilla (or call Matt a pipe smoking chimpanzee) > Joe "da Gorilla" Pizzo If the three toe shoe fits, ......... :-)) < optimabatterystore.com> is a good link from Todd Kramer. It has info on sizes, specs, and reverse post models and the top cap to protect posts. Don't monkey around-get the right stuff. Tom "95 S6 From gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com Wed Sep 3 11:06:08 2003 From: gary.m.lewis2 at boeing.com (Lewis, Gary M) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? Message-ID: Per the 'Linus Toy Brake Spec' (Ok, it probably isn't his, but he was the only one that sent me the tip), I am in the process of the 993tt Calipers/RS2 Brackets/A8 Lang Rotors. I have the Calipers in hand, and man, THEY ARE HUGE!!! Like Fat Bastard HUGE. I don't believe they are gonna fit, but folks have done it, and swear they will. I am going this route as I spent all my upgrade cash this year on the motor (RS2 Spec mit der VMAP), springs, shocks, brakes (obviously), and repairs (I just bought it). I don't have the cash (ok, I do, but The Wife (tm) is losing patience), and this option fits under the stock 16" Avus rims. Next year however, the wagon gets the 18" original S8 Avus (UR-S8 Rims??). Like so: http://www.s-cars.org/urs4s6/Gallery/S6Avntrhs.JPG Gary Lewis 1995.5 S6 Avant, Green/Ecru, RS2 MAF, RS2 Exhaust Manifold, RS2 Injectors, Custom Turbo (K26 Exhaust Turbine, Factory K26 Cold side (Audi Works '999' P/N) with 50mm intake and custom Innovative Turbo compressor wheel), Bilsteins, Eibachs, Big Reds. And sissy 16" stock Avus rims... 1990 200TQW, K24 Turbo, 1991 TQ Intercooler, 1.8 bar, Bypass Valve, Euro's, Bilsteins, Redline in tranny and diffs, FOR SALE -----Original Message----- From: Linus Toy [mailto:linust@mindspring.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 8:25 AM To: 'copley'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Brake Options? With judicious shopping, and maybe a little luck, you should be able to do the 993tt/RS2 bracket/A8L rotor conversion for $1100. Don't forget for any of these conversions, you have to change brake lines. _____ Linus Toy Mercer Island, WA linust@mindspring.com _____ > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of copley > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 7:40 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Brake Options? > > > > Re: [s-cars] Brake Options? > > I did the Bira I kit on my 95.5 S-car and feel it is the > best possible upgrade, next to shocks. > > I'm thinking it was maybe 1100 dollars installed? > > 100% positive review. > > > The car doesn't see much track time anymore as I have another > one for that, but the brakes are outstanding on street or > track. no noise, no dust, just great firm stopping power. > > The s-car is for sale btw. > > paul > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-> car-list > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From toddekramer at msn.com Wed Sep 3 12:12:21 2003 From: toddekramer at msn.com (Todd E. Kramer) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: FW: [s-cars] Optima Battery- What Model ? Message-ID: <000501c3723e$89ab9c90$efb2bb80@R320aKramer> -----Original Message----- From: Todd E. Kramer [mailto:toddekramer@msn.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:11 AM To: 'Tom Green' Subject: RE: [s-cars] Optima Battery- What Model ? Tom, I am using the D34-750S Yellow Top. I went yellow because of my stereo and driving light current draw when the car is not running; ensures a good start after car shows. Side-mounting took some configuring, but nothing was rewired. I could easily revert to a stock battery in the event I sold the car and wanted to keep the battery. TK -----Original Message----- From: Tom Green [mailto:trgreen@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:39 AM To: Joseph Pizzimenti Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com; mark.pollan@mci.com; toddekramer@msn.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Optima Battery- What Model ? On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 09:33 PM, Joseph Pizzimenti wrote: > Get the red top and install it backwards > No problems to date, only solid 3 crank starts and no > fires yet, so if that's "monkey boy-in' it", call me a > gorilla (or call Matt a pipe smoking chimpanzee) > Joe "da Gorilla" Pizzo If the three toe shoe fits, ......... :-)) < optimabatterystore.com> is a good link from Todd Kramer. It has info on sizes, specs, and reverse post models and the top cap to protect posts. Don't monkey around-get the right stuff. Tom "95 S6 From jjssmccarthy at yahoo.com Wed Sep 3 11:27:11 2003 From: jjssmccarthy at yahoo.com (james McCarthy) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: cv boot r&r Message-ID: <20030903172711.965.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> No need to undo any suspension parts. Just pull the whole axel out. Just did one on my wifes 95.5 s6 avant. 1 hour 15 min start to finish. Don't even need to remove the belly pan. -jjm 95.5 s6 avant - hers 95.5 s6 seadn - mine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From jjssmccarthy at yahoo.com Wed Sep 3 11:28:01 2003 From: jjssmccarthy at yahoo.com (james McCarthy) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: cv boot r&r Message-ID: <20030903172801.70953.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> No need to undo any suspension parts. Just pull the whole axel out. Just did one on my wifes 95.5 s6 avant. 1 hour 15 min start to finish. Don't even need to remove the belly pan. -jjm 95.5 s6 avant - hers 95.5 s6 seadn - mine __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From danh at s-cars.org Wed Sep 3 11:29:33 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CB HideFood References: Message-ID: <000b01c37240$f1029ea0$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> You can still get it from Northstar Motorsports (http://www.northstarmotorsports.com) and I believe Emmon's Coachworks (http://emmonscoachworks.com). Later, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee Levitt" To: "Qlist" ; Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 8:52 AM Subject: [s-cars] CB HideFood > > For those of you who treat your leather with Connolly Brother's HideFood, > it's time to lay in a supply. The company is in receivership and they have > ceased manufacturing. > > Hopefully, someone will purchase the company and go back into > production...the stuff is great. > > We had a similar scare with the Brooks Leather Co, makers of the best > bicycle seats in the world, also British. Fortunately they're back in > production. > > This is from a good friend, who's a Brit - "The Brits, falling behind and > working part time to catch up!" > > Lee > '95.5 S6 avant > '96 A6 quattro avant > 'ex 1972 Atala Club Racer with Brooks Pro saddle (the saddle is still > hanging on my wall) > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From lee at wheelman.com Wed Sep 3 14:44:55 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Gary writes: > I spent all my upgrade cash this year on the motor (RS2 Spec mit > der VMAP), springs, shocks, brakes (obviously), and repairs (I just bought it). I > don't have the cash (ok, I do, but The Wife (tm) is losing patience), and > this option fits under the stock 16" Avus rims. Next year however, the > wagon gets the 18" original S8 Avus (UR-S8 Rims??). Like so: First of all, if you have all that go, you gotta stop, right? Second, brake work isn't actually an upgrade, it's a prophylactic replacement of items that wear out. :) Lee From dburig at igsenergy.com Wed Sep 3 15:32:52 2003 From: dburig at igsenergy.com (Dave Burig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Lee, About 5 days after installing my ECS stage 2s last October, Bambi jumps out in front of me mit wife riding shotgun. Quoth Dear Wendy as we stopped about 3' short of the quadruped, "AAAAAHHHHH, HOLY SH!T, wow!" Never heard another gripe about the cost of the brakes. So get a friend to don a bear suit (deer are lousy conspirators) and jump out in front of you, reared up on his hind legs, (I would do this at night) and put on a show for The Wife(tm). If you're really good, juuuuust bump your friend (errrr, the bear) in the knees. Explain to stunned passenger that the brakes are only as good as the rubber between them and the road, and better (bigger) tires are much gentler on the wildlife! YWIA, DB Columbus, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Lee Levitt Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:45 PM To: Lewis, Gary M; 'Linus Toy'; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] Brake Options? Gary writes: > I spent all my upgrade cash this year on the motor (RS2 Spec mit > der VMAP), springs, shocks, brakes (obviously), and repairs (I just bought it). I > don't have the cash (ok, I do, but The Wife (tm) is losing patience), and > this option fits under the stock 16" Avus rims. Next year however, the > wagon gets the 18" original S8 Avus (UR-S8 Rims??). Like so: First of all, if you have all that go, you gotta stop, right? Second, brake work isn't actually an upgrade, it's a prophylactic replacement of items that wear out. :) Lee _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mik at info.fundp.ac.be Wed Sep 3 22:15:33 2003 From: mik at info.fundp.ac.be (Mihnea Cotet) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030902195930.03218f18@info.fundp.ac.be> Hi y'all, I was recently discussing with a few fellow listers who would need custom remapping of their ECUs and the idea for me to come to the US to tune a few cars has arisen... so this is a question for all of you considering an ECU mod, for whichever setup you may have: are you interested in custom remapping of your car, preferrably on a road (just because no one drives everyday on a dyno IMHO), with EGTs and wideband O2 feedback, and almost real time tuning? Thanks for your answers, Mihnea From fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com Wed Sep 3 13:25:02 2003 From: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com (chris chambers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030902195930.03218f18@info.fundp.ac.be> Message-ID: <20030903192502.22669.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> Sounds like alot of fun and very helpful. Thanks for offering this serice to the listmembers, it is quite kind of you to do this at no charge. Chris PS I would insist on buying you a good meal and a cold drink of your choosing. --- Mihnea Cotet wrote: > Hi y'all, > > > I was recently discussing with a few fellow listers who would need > custom > remapping of their ECUs and the idea for me to come to the US to tune > a few > cars has arisen... so this is a question for all of you considering > an ECU > mod, for whichever setup you may have: are you interested in custom > remapping of your car, preferrably on a road (just because no one > drives > everyday on a dyno IMHO), with EGTs and wideband O2 feedback, and > almost > real time tuning? > > > Thanks for your answers, > > Mihnea > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From mik at info.fundp.ac.be Wed Sep 3 22:40:26 2003 From: mik at info.fundp.ac.be (Mihnea Cotet) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? In-Reply-To: <20030903192502.22669.qmail@web14208.mail.yahoo.com> References: <5.2.1.1.0.20030902195930.03218f18@info.fundp.ac.be> Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20030903214003.0331b008@info.fundp.ac.be> Daaaaang, should have added "not for free of course".... lol :-) At 12:25 3/09/2003 -0700, chris chambers wrote: >Sounds like alot of fun and very helpful. > >Thanks for offering this serice to the listmembers, it is quite kind of >you to do this at no charge. > >Chris > >PS I would insist on buying you a good meal and a cold drink of your >choosing. > > > >--- Mihnea Cotet wrote: > > Hi y'all, > > > > > > I was recently discussing with a few fellow listers who would need > > custom > > remapping of their ECUs and the idea for me to come to the US to tune > > a few > > cars has arisen... so this is a question for all of you considering > > an ECU > > mod, for whichever setup you may have: are you interested in custom > > remapping of your car, preferrably on a road (just because no one > > drives > > everyday on a dyno IMHO), with EGTs and wideband O2 feedback, and > > almost > > real time tuning? > > > > > > Thanks for your answers, > > > > Mihnea > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >===== >93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) >73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup >95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg > >"If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - >Mario Andretti" > >"It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software >http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From landaeta1 at comcast.net Wed Sep 3 16:50:22 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.0.20030902195930.03218f18@info.fundp.ac.be> Message-ID: Mihnea, I'd say "after the upgrades" for me, that would be about May-June 2004. Since I'll be installing *your* custom chipset, a little more fine tuning may not be *all* that necessary. Of course, you're always welcome to stop by and see us here in NJ. I'm sure The Wife (tm) here won't mind. It'll be fun listening to you and Pastore 'swap' secrets. Bwahahahaha! ;-) Doug L -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Mihnea Cotet Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:16 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? Hi y'all, I was recently discussing with a few fellow listers who would need custom remapping of their ECUs and the idea for me to come to the US to tune a few cars has arisen... so this is a question for all of you considering an ECU mod, for whichever setup you may have: are you interested in custom remapping of your car, preferrably on a road (just because no one drives everyday on a dyno IMHO), with EGTs and wideband O2 feedback, and almost real time tuning? Thanks for your answers, Mihnea _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jpostup at yahoo.com Wed Sep 3 15:00:07 2003 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Cool Pictures !!! But where's the video ??? In-Reply-To: <000a01c3715f$94123980$b3000f0a@D8HK3Q21> Message-ID: <20030903210007.26545.qmail@web40803.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Bill, you are SUCH a ham bone! Man, and Rich A was reluctant, and you took sustained arm twisting from _somebody_ to stand in front! Next we'll see this photo on Autoweek! JEff Posto Bill Mahoney wrote: Tom wondered... -anyone got a better shot of Brians GT2 ? " Tom- FWIW I think this is pretty much the definitive GT2 pic. http://www.s-cars.org/nationals/NESFEST03/EventPics/NES03-EVT/nes03-evt_ 69.html Bill M -(having been over served for the previous 18 hours or so;) _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From tfrank at symyx.com Wed Sep 3 16:00:41 2003 From: tfrank at symyx.com (Trevor Frank) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? Message-ID: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39025AD4D3@xena2000.symyx.com> I was thinking that it may be a good idea to do it during the Nationals, December timeframe. Get a few of us together and the cost could be fairly cheap. -----Original Message----- From: Douglas Landaeta [mailto:landaeta1@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 12:50 PM To: Mihnea Cotet; S-Car Subject: RE: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? Mihnea, I'd say "after the upgrades" for me, that would be about May-June 2004. Since I'll be installing *your* custom chipset, a little more fine tuning may not be *all* that necessary. Of course, you're always welcome to stop by and see us here in NJ. I'm sure The Wife (tm) here won't mind. It'll be fun listening to you and Pastore 'swap' secrets. Bwahahahaha! ;-) Doug L -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Mihnea Cotet Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 3:16 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Possible tuning session(s) in the USA? Hi y'all, I was recently discussing with a few fellow listers who would need custom remapping of their ECUs and the idea for me to come to the US to tune a few cars has arisen... so this is a question for all of you considering an ECU mod, for whichever setup you may have: are you interested in custom remapping of your car, preferrably on a road (just because no one drives everyday on a dyno IMHO), with EGTs and wideband O2 feedback, and almost real time tuning? Thanks for your answers, Mihnea _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ======= Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Symyx Technologies, Inc. that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted, privileged and/or protected work product, and is meant solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately, permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Wed Sep 3 20:35:29 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Brake Options? In-Reply-To: <000101c371c6$4fcaa610$a5c2fea9@abitintel> Message-ID: <000001c37274$0fcd2020$2667fea9@principal> I have Hawk pads on my 90Q20V and Pagid on the urS6 and Pagid made a more noticeable difference than Hawks versus the OEM pads. But that's on two different cars so it's still a guess. Anyway, I'm really pleased with the braking power/fade with the Pagid pads/Zimmerman rotors with stock calipers. Still trying to work out this mushy pedal. Vincent. -----Message d'origine----- De?: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Rich Assarabowski Envoy??: 2 sept. 2003 22:52 ??: s-car-list@audifans.com Objet?: RE: RE : [s-cars] Brake Options? Along those lines, any suggestions on what a good pad is for the stock brakes? Pagid? Which one? Any pad out there that makes less dust but still has good pedal feel? Had a set of organic pads once on my Coupe GT that had zero dust but no braking in the wet for the first second or two -- scary! -- Rich >I will echo what Vincent suggests. It is absolutely amazing the difference a new set of pads and rotors makes. I no >longer have to pump the brakes to get good pedal feel and I have confidence in the brakes again. I think the problem with >the OEM set up is that after you wear them about a third of the way, or so, the system gets too much flex in it and you >start getting that mushy feel. So, if you're looking to save some money for now you can put in new rotors and pads all >the way around for $300 or less. And then upgrade to Big Reds/Blacks as the pocket book allows. > >Bob _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From dougv at comcast.net Wed Sep 3 21:45:34 2003 From: dougv at comcast.net (Doug Van Auken) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S6 Avant Suspension Message-ID: <3F5660FE.1030200@comcast.net> I am looking for springs from an S6 Avant if anyone is looking to sell. Doug From t44tq at mindspring.com Wed Sep 3 22:18:23 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ordered Eibach Pro-Kit springs from TireRack In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000d01c37282$70b37570$6400a8c0@newpc> Lee- Funny you mention Kumho 712s as a stiff riding tire- a friend's 200q understeers like crazy and has a pretty compliant ride compared to my car and we both have Bilstein/H&R suspensions. Maybe my bushings are shot? Taka From calvinlc at earthlink.net Wed Sep 3 20:27:51 2003 From: calvinlc at earthlink.net (Calvin & Diana Craig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." All over again. In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030902164013.082016a0@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: The fuel pump relay is definitely under the steering wheel in the row of relays revealed by pulling off the "knee pad" under the steering wheel. I forget which one it is but you can most likely tell by looking at what the terminals are "numbered" in the Bentley and then pulling each relay and looking at the terminal numbers and finding the one that matches. Paul Galius is the one who told me which relay it was, are you out there Paul? While you are at it I would check the FPR, that's what my problem turned out to be, although your symptoms are quite different. --Calvin -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:49 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." All over again. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all, OK, I think I've narrowed the no start - no run condition down to one of two likely causes. A new fuel filter was installed simply because it has been a LONG time since the last one. There is now no fuel pressure at the filter. Apparently what I observed earlier was simply the result of bleeding off a small residual pressure rather than as a result of a functioning fuel pump. So - it's is likely either the fuel pump or the fuel pump relay. Working on the basis of the fact that the relay will be less expensive than the pump I'd like to check the pump independently of the relay. A jumper across the load connectors of the FP relay socket will give the answer. My problem : where the holy H is this relay located? I've been looking all afternoon. Bentley has been no help. The Family Album has been no help. It does not appear to be in the fuse/relay box reached from under the hood above the driver's feet. That's where it has been on every other Audi I have ever owned. Where is it on this '95 urS6? Is it the same sort of relay my other Audis had? The one with the fuse socket in the top of the relay? _____ Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. _____ Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From livinotte at cox.net Wed Sep 3 22:57:33 2003 From: livinotte at cox.net (josh Leonti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Paging the S-car-list fanatics who know ecu pin info: Message-ID: <001001c37287$e8746740$b8aa6344@ri.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] This is an email I sent to the Es2 list. But if you can help me out it would be appreciated. The main question is in bold print: "First I like to point out a great page on Sjm site! http://www.sjmautotechnik.com/20vpin.html For ben, I sappose this would certainly help. But this email is related to the trip/board computer. I am on Schematics page 91-20-16 There is a Yellow T1C that connects to the Ecu Pedro's spread sheet states: 7 Board Computer (Y) 23A #32 BL/BK SJM site states: Pin 32: Trip Computer (Blue/Black stripe wire) Which makes sense for 3b application However for the AAN(same ecu pin # as aby) Pin 32: Trip Computer Boost Pressure Gauge signal for (Pin 9) So is that the same thing? Anyone? Thanks Josh" -- From livinotte at cox.net Wed Sep 3 23:12:25 2003 From: livinotte at cox.net (josh Leonti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] ah.. I got it nevermind Message-ID: <002501c37289$fbb169a0$b8aa6344@ri.cox.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] if your curious: "Check this out: http://s2central.net/images/3B_ECU_Schematic.jpg Makes a great desktop if you really want to learn ;-) What a great picture! Check out pin # 32: Fuel Consumption signal Makes total sense! That would be pin # 31 on the AAN/ABY 31. Fuel consumption signal for trip computer I am getting tired... This should of made sense a while ago but I been reading schematic for the past 4 days. Anyways. another issuse solved. Hope this is helping some one out there. Cheers Josh" -- From rokas at wam.umd.edu Wed Sep 3 23:42:10 2003 From: rokas at wam.umd.edu (Rokas Reipa) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors Message-ID: <002001c3728e$2426c930$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Hey everyone. On my 95.5 S6, both of the side view mirrors are about half-delaminated. On both of them, part of the mirror is a big ugly brown splotch. Consequently, they will not pass state inspection. What can I do in this case? Do I have to purchase complete mirror assemblies or will a cheaper solution suffice? Thanks, Rokas 95.5 Tornado Red UrS6 From gailus at mindspring.com Wed Sep 3 23:00:53 2003 From: gailus at mindspring.com (Paul Gailus) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." All over again. References: Message-ID: <005901c37290$c1b7a140$0201a8c0@com> The fuel pump relay is in the #6 position, which is the one closest to the passenger side. The Bentley lists this on page X798 of the wiring manual for the 95 S6, and also on the corresponding pages for the other years. So in this case, you can get away without any extra detective work. Earlier today Bob sent me an email reply noting that the fuel pump didn't run when he applied power directly to it, and so he has a new one on order. Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: Calvin & Diana Craig To: Robert Myers ; Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 8:27 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." All over again. > The fuel pump relay is definitely under the steering wheel in the row of > relays revealed by pulling off the "knee pad" under the steering wheel. I > forget which one it is but you can most likely tell by looking at what the > terminals are "numbered" in the Bentley and then pulling each relay and > looking at the terminal numbers and finding the one that matches. Paul > Galius is the one who told me which relay it was, are you out there Paul? > While you are at it I would check the FPR, that's what my problem turned out > to be, although your symptoms are quite different. > --Calvin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Robert Myers > Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 2:49 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's dead, Jim." All over again. > > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hi Y'all, > > OK, I think I've narrowed the no start - no run condition down to one of > two likely causes. A new fuel filter was installed simply because it has > been a LONG time since the last one. There is now no fuel pressure at the > filter. Apparently what I observed earlier was simply the result of > bleeding off a small residual pressure rather than as a result of a > functioning fuel pump. So - it's is likely either the fuel pump or the > fuel pump relay. > > Working on the basis of the fact that the relay will be less expensive than > the pump I'd like to check the pump independently of the relay. A jumper > across the load connectors of the FP relay socket will give the answer. My > problem : where the holy H is this relay located? I've been looking all > afternoon. Bentley has been no help. The Family Album has been no > help. It does not appear to be in the fuse/relay box reached from under > the hood above the driver's feet. That's where it has been on every other > Audi I have ever owned. Where is it on this '95 urS6? Is it the same sort > of relay my other Audis had? The one with the fuse socket in the top of > the relay? > > _____ > > Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the > shrub-in-chief. > _____ > > Bob > ***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm > ***** > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From lee at wheelman.com Thu Sep 4 00:41:21 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <002001c3728e$2426c930$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: Rokas Reipa opined: > > Hey everyone. On my 95.5 S6, both of the side view mirrors are about > half-delaminated. On both of them, part of the mirror is a big ugly brown > splotch. Consequently, they will not pass state inspection. What > can I do in > this case? Do I have to purchase complete mirror assemblies or will a > cheaper solution suffice? Thanks, You can purchase the glass portion of the mirror from the dealer. There's a trick to popping the old mirror glass off, and the new glass goes on nicely. Do a google search to find the trick, I don't know it offhand...but with two mirrors of my own (both left side) showing the same aging, I'll be figuring it out soon :) Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From JShadzi at aol.com Thu Sep 4 00:55:51 2003 From: JShadzi at aol.com (JShadzi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html Javad 80tq.com From JShadzi at aol.com Thu Sep 4 02:21:27 2003 From: JShadzi at aol.com (JShadzi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: <5b.3dc4d751.2c8825d7@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey Huw, thanks, ya, fun stuff. Huh, odd, I've got 2 graphs with opposite colors, yes, you're correct, I'll have to change that, the other graph in front of me has the colors swapped. Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's drag racing, and his floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his programmable EFI system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the screen..sigh...we need to add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - "ALL NEW FEATURE: Will blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about it!!" Javad In a message dated 9/3/2003 10:05:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, audi@humanspeakers.com writes: > Awesome numbers... and backed up by a nice graph... but I think you got > the color backwards. The 9/3 run was the higher one, the blue one, > wasn't it? > > PS, saw "Fast and Furious" a couple of days ago, I think of you 'cause > you're out West... what an awful film... > From Q at IntendedAcceleration.com Wed Sep 3 23:26:33 2003 From: Q at IntendedAcceleration.com (Ned Ritchie) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:42 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? In-Reply-To: <043401c37139$1cdfa800$0200000a@stevered> Message-ID: <000001c372a5$2052bf50$3da8fea9@X1> Mark, I agree with Stephen. Why not upgrade one more step? Upgrade to the OdysseyR battery instead of the Optima. I used the PC1200 version on my Yellow conversion, and have never seen such a small powerhouse of a battery. Check this out: 2600 amps short circuit 1200 amps for 5 seconds 1090 amps for 10 seconds 900 amps for 20 seconds 860 amps for 30 seconds at 80 degrees HCA ( Hot Cranking Amps) 725 amps for 30 seconds at 32 degrees MCA (Marine Cranking Amps) 550 amps for 30 seconds at 0 degrees CCA ( Cold Cranking Amps) 400 amps for 60 seconds (just a fact) 25 amps for 78 minutes (Reserve Capacity) 4 amps for 10 hours (40 amp hour rating) And the fast recovery. . . with the alternator charging, there is no limitation on the inrush current, so the charge and recovery is very fast in contrast to the Optima with its 10 amp limit. ***After composing and rereading this I sound like a battery salesman sorry, but I think this is educational for all. The Odyssey is NOT a Gel-Cell like the Optima, but is a "starved" or absorbed electrolyte type battery, meaning that there is no free acid inside the battery; all of the acid is kept absorbed in the glass mat separators. There is no free electrolyte liquid or gel which could escape and cause corrosion, even in the event of damage to the battery case. If the ODYSSEY battery were to split open, there would be no acid spillage! Owing to the Drycell design, the US Department of Transportation (USDOT) has classified the ODYSSEYR battery as a dry battery, so it may be shipped worry-free by UPS/Federal Express or by air. http://www.odysseybatteries.com/ http://www.odysseybatteries.com/auto.htm http://www.odysseybatteries.com/faq.htm#a http://www.odysseyfactory.com/specs.htm The PC1200 series is smaller that a stock Audi battery. You can use your own custom hold down or buy one from West Coast Batteries. This battery is actually the civilian version of the PC1200-0766-2003 42Ah/C10 Light Duty Truck battery that Hawker Energy Products supplies to the US Military with a 12 year life. They are practically indestructible. Military design prevents shorted cells and vibration damage. They provide deep-cycle reserve and high starting power. Hawker Energy Products Inc. 617 North Ridgeview Drive Warrensburg, Missouri 64093-9301 USA Whew, Ned Ritchie -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Redford Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 3:01 AM To: Mark Pollan Cc: UrqEmailList; S-Car-List@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? -------I don't have Optima info , but I bought an "Odyssey Drycell Battery " . Here is the website ; www.odysseybatteries.com ... Maybe someone else has input on them also .... Stephen Redford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Pollan" To: "S-Cars (E-mail)" Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 7:38 PM Subject: [s-cars] Optima Battery - What Model? > My battery gave up the ghost. Under the seat is a Diehard. Would like > something different that does not fail without fail at the predetermined > Mean Time to Failure. I do recall reading that Optima makes a good battery > but cannot recall the model to use. If anybody would be so kind to provide > info/commentary it would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > > Mark Pollan > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Andrew.Jackson at bmo.com Thu Sep 4 08:53:28 2003 From: Andrew.Jackson at bmo.com (Andrew.Jackson@bmo.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: TFATF (was 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs) Message-ID: I'm 100% positive that the warning message was: "DANGER TO MANIFOLD!" I remember that quite well because I was lmao for a good 5 minutes afterwards. The sequel is much MUCH worse BTW. ALJ JShadzi@aol.com Sent by: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com 09/04/2003 01:21 AM To: audi@humanspeakers.com cc: quattro@audifans.com, urq@audifans.com, s-car-list@audifans.com, ba-group@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey Huw, thanks, ya, fun stuff. Huh, odd, I've got 2 graphs with opposite colors, yes, you're correct, I'll have to change that, the other graph in front of me has the colors swapped. Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's drag racing, and his floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his programmable EFI system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the screen..sigh...we need to add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - "ALL NEW FEATURE: Will blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about it!!" Javad In a message dated 9/3/2003 10:05:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, audi@humanspeakers.com writes: > Awesome numbers... and backed up by a nice graph... but I think you got > the color backwards. The 9/3 run was the higher one, the blue one, > wasn't it? > > PS, saw "Fast and Furious" a couple of days ago, I think of you 'cause > you're out West... what an awful film... > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From JShadzi at aol.com Thu Sep 4 10:08:10 2003 From: JShadzi at aol.com (JShadzi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: <78.4698f9b4.2c88933a@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] A dyno queen, a term I feel I may have coined, or heard somewhere a long time ago, I forget, is a car that makes a lot of power on the dyno, but on the street isn't driveable for sh*#t becuase of massive turbo lag, horrible part throttle tuning and performance, etc. Its easy to get a car to post big #'s on a dyno compared to making a car that is fast and can actually drive. Its like a "garage queen", looks pretty sittin' there. Javad In a message dated 9/3/2003 10:52:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, audi@humanspeakers.com writes: > Now, what exactly is a "dyno queen"? Someone who hangs around car > testing garages drinking creme de menthe? From audi at humanspeakers.com Thu Sep 4 01:55:28 2003 From: audi at humanspeakers.com (Huw Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> References: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> Message-ID: <3F56C5C0.3050108@humanspeakers.com> Awesome numbers... and backed up by a nice graph... but I think you got the color backwards. The 9/3 run was the higher one, the blue one, wasn't it? PS, saw "Fast and Furious" a couple of days ago, I think of you 'cause you're out West... what an awful film... JShadzi@aol.com wrote: > Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. > > http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi http://www.humanthoughts.org/ From audi at humanspeakers.com Thu Sep 4 02:26:43 2003 From: audi at humanspeakers.com (Huw Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <5b.3dc4d751.2c8825d7@aol.com> References: <5b.3dc4d751.2c8825d7@aol.com> Message-ID: <3F56CD13.4020703@humanspeakers.com> > Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's drag racing, and his > floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his programmable EFI > system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the screen..sigh...we need to > add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - "ALL NEW FEATURE: Will > blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about it!!" and all I'm thinking is, 140 mph on the *street* and you're gonna look over at a laptop and slam it shut? Also, there is no way on earth that a little 4 cyl car is gonna keep up with that supercharged detroit iron later in the film. No way... What it coulda used was some 5 cyl engine sounds :) Where were you? -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi http://www.humanthoughts.org/ From billzcat1 at hotmail.com Wed Sep 3 23:38:42 2003 From: billzcat1 at hotmail.com (Richard Hoffman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs References: <5b.3dc4d751.2c8825d7@aol.com> <3F56CD13.4020703@humanspeakers.com> Message-ID: Well his car probably didn't meet up to the standards... no wing PLUS its actually fast.... Also Huw, that Supra is an inline-6 and there a some of these fellows making 1000hp on this motor! Of course, I do believe them to be dyno queens! :-) Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: "Huw Powell" To: Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:26 PM Subject: Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs > > > Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's drag racing, and his > > floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his programmable EFI > > system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the screen..sigh...we need to > > add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - "ALL NEW FEATURE: Will > > blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about it!!" > > and all I'm thinking is, 140 mph on the *street* and you're gonna look > over at a laptop and slam it shut? > > Also, there is no way on earth that a little 4 cyl car is gonna keep up > with that supercharged detroit iron later in the film. No way... > > What it coulda used was some 5 cyl engine sounds :) Where were you? > > -- > Huw Powell > > http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi > > http://www.humanthoughts.org/ > > From audi at humanspeakers.com Thu Sep 4 02:46:36 2003 From: audi at humanspeakers.com (Huw Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: References: <5b.3dc4d751.2c8825d7@aol.com> <3F56CD13.4020703@humanspeakers.com> Message-ID: <3F56D1BC.70009@humanspeakers.com> > Well his car probably didn't meet up to the standards... no wing PLUS its > actually fast.... so true... > Also Huw, that Supra is an inline-6 and there a some of these fellows making > 1000hp on this motor! Of course, I do believe them to be dyno queens! :-) oh, sorry, I stand corrected on that. Still, anything that can be done to one engine can be done to another... and the bigger one will probably have an advantage, in drag racing. Now, what exactly is a "dyno queen"? Someone who hangs around car testing garages drinking creme de menthe? Friggin drag racing. F111A's always win... or Saturn V's, if you have one handy, and are willing to stretch things out over more than a quarter mile (their short trap speeds are terrible!) -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi http://www.humanthoughts.org/ From billzcat1 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 4 00:17:36 2003 From: billzcat1 at hotmail.com (Richard Hoffman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs References: <5b.3dc4d751.2c8825d7@aol.com> <3F56CD13.4020703@humanspeakers.com> <3F56D1BC.70009@humanspeakers.com> Message-ID: > Now, what exactly is a "dyno queen"? Someone who hangs around car > testing garages drinking creme de menthe? Couldn't have said it better myself! Richard From tquattroguy at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 01:24:35 2003 From: tquattroguy at yahoo.com (Todd Phenneger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <3F56D1BC.70009@humanspeakers.com> Message-ID: <20030904072435.92109.qmail@web12802.mail.yahoo.com> Huw, C'mon. Its a "Garage Queen" that makes its "garage" the DYNO. They get trailered to the dyno, Dyno's, then trailered to the shop for more tweaks, and the pattern continues. Hmm, is there such a thing as a "Mattress Queen"? Just curious. l8r Todd --- Huw Powell wrote: > Now, what exactly is a "dyno queen"? Someone who hangs around > car > testing garages drinking creme de menthe? __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From apritchard at seaeye.com Thu Sep 4 09:49:14 2003 From: apritchard at seaeye.com (Alan Pritchard) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: uurmm, wasnt that a toyota supra at the end??? 3l straight six, a few around the world making 1000 bhp??? -----Original Message----- From: Huw Powell [mailto:audi@humanspeakers.com] Sent: 04 September 2003 06:27 To: JShadzi@aol.com Cc: quattro@audifans.com; urq@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com; ba-group@audifans.com Subject: Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs > Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's drag racing, and his > floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his programmable EFI > system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the screen..sigh...we need to > add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - "ALL NEW FEATURE: Will > blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about it!!" and all I'm thinking is, 140 mph on the *street* and you're gonna look over at a laptop and slam it shut? Also, there is no way on earth that a little 4 cyl car is gonna keep up with that supercharged detroit iron later in the film. No way... What it coulda used was some 5 cyl engine sounds :) Where were you? -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi http://www.humanthoughts.org/ From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Thu Sep 4 15:47:44 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18DFA6DEF@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> Does 'Creme de menthe' have a special meaning ? Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Richard Hoffman [mailto:billzcat1@hotmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:18 AM To: audi@humanspeakers.com Cc: JShadzi@aol.com; quattro@audifans.com; urq@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com; ba-group@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs > Now, what exactly is a "dyno queen"? Someone who hangs around car > testing garages drinking creme de menthe? Couldn't have said it better myself! Richard _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com Thu Sep 4 15:48:19 2003 From: Frederic.L'Huillier at Siebel.com (Frederic L'Huillier) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: <509F3EA5AAB28543A855165A9003F18DFA6DF0@EGHEXMB01.corp.siebel.com> 800 hp for sure. I don't know for 1000 hp. Regards, Frederic -----Original Message----- From: Alan Pritchard [mailto:apritchard@seaeye.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:49 AM To: 'audi@humanspeakers.com'; JShadzi@aol.com Cc: quattro@audifans.com; urq@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com; ba-group@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] RE: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs uurmm, wasnt that a toyota supra at the end??? 3l straight six, a few around the world making 1000 bhp??? -----Original Message----- From: Huw Powell [mailto:audi@humanspeakers.com] Sent: 04 September 2003 06:27 To: JShadzi@aol.com Cc: quattro@audifans.com; urq@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com; ba-group@audifans.com Subject: Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs > Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's drag racing, > and his > floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his > programmable EFI > system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the screen..sigh...we > need to > add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - "ALL NEW FEATURE: Will > blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about it!!" and all I'm thinking is, 140 mph on the *street* and you're gonna look over at a laptop and slam it shut? Also, there is no way on earth that a little 4 cyl car is gonna keep up with that supercharged detroit iron later in the film. No way... What it coulda used was some 5 cyl engine sounds :) Where were you? -- Huw Powell http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi http://www.humanthoughts.org/ _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mdg3369 at newtsplace.com Thu Sep 4 10:58:30 2003 From: mdg3369 at newtsplace.com (mdg3369@newtsplace.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> References: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> Message-ID: <2803.137.112.128.230.1062683910.squirrel@www.newtsplace.com> Hey come on it was an ego busting 13.9 seconds at 6psi....trying to cheat me out of those extra .2 seconds are ya ;) Congrats on the dyno run, those are some impressive numbers indeed! 300whp is just a cam change away I bet! Mike > Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. > > http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html > > Javad > 80tq.com > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Sep 4 10:54:45 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <002001c3728e$2426c930$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: <000301c372ec$19b868b0$6400a8c0@newpc> You can replace just the glass- I've done that, was about $90 each from the local dealer. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Rokas Reipa Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:42 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors Hey everyone. On my 95.5 S6, both of the side view mirrors are about half-delaminated. On both of them, part of the mirror is a big ugly brown splotch. Consequently, they will not pass state inspection. What can I do in this case? Do I have to purchase complete mirror assemblies or will a cheaper solution suffice? Thanks, Rokas 95.5 Tornado Red UrS6 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From WQQ2PXK at ups.com Thu Sep 4 11:09:10 2003 From: WQQ2PXK at ups.com (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: dyno results Message-ID: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F6035B803D@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Javad shared: Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 23:55:51 -0400 From: JShadzi@aol.com To: quattro@audifans.com, urq@audifans.com, s-car-list@audifans.com, ba-group@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html Javad 80tq.com Cool stuff, Javad, great results, great write up. Thanks for sharing, keep the insanity going out there... fun read. -Paul CT '95 //S6 can only dream of being dyno tuned someday From Mthdealer at aol.com Thu Sep 4 11:12:54 2003 From: Mthdealer at aol.com (Mthdealer@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] travel help list Message-ID: <607C6D25.00ED20AB.02740056@aol.com> The list sounds great. I've got a vag-com in SW Pa, North WV area. Dave Fairchance Pharmacy 90 W Church St Fairchance Pa 15436 Dave O'Neil owner 724-564-7817 From JShadzi at aol.com Thu Sep 4 11:24:43 2003 From: JShadzi at aol.com (JShadzi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Message-ID: <13898315.47EB8B12.0016D39D@aol.com> Damn, I stand corrected, 13.9! Ego busting indeed. Making updates.. Javad > > Hey come on it was an ego busting 13.9 seconds at 6psi....trying to cheat > me out of those extra .2 seconds are ya ;) > Congrats on the dyno run, those are some impressive numbers > indeed! 300whp > is just a cam change away I bet! > Mike > > > Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. > > > > http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html > > > > Javad > > 80tq.com > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From brucem105 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 11:32:12 2003 From: brucem105 at comcast.net (Bruce Mendel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] travel help list References: <607C6D25.00ED20AB.02740056@aol.com> Message-ID: <01d401c372f1$5774e7f0$0201a8c0@corp.handspring.com> This is a pretty sweet list too if you breakdown and need some help. http://www.steve-hall.com/cgi-bin/VAG-Locator.pl Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 10:12 AM Subject: [s-cars] travel help list > > The list sounds great. I've got a vag-com in SW Pa, North WV area. > Dave > > Fairchance Pharmacy > 90 W Church St > Fairchance Pa 15436 > Dave O'Neil owner > 724-564-7817 > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From wmahoney at disk.com Thu Sep 4 10:45:59 2003 From: wmahoney at disk.com (Bill Mahoney) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] travel help list Message-ID: <000001c372f3$419b9300$b3000f0a@D8HK3Q21> Dave O'Neil signed off as -- "Fairchance Pharmacy" At long last; the S List Pharmacy ! Do we have to be traveling to obtain help I wonder? Thanks Dave! Bill M - Wondrin if this is really Burigs side biz;) From robert at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 10:32:12 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904092624.0207c5e8@mail.charter.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all, Sorry for the lack of AC Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL available in my area. I have been using a cable modem which has been (usually) quite satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both systems and have a recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I realize that there is a loading factor speed penalty when many users are on-line with the cable which does not happen with DSL. So far, that has not been a significant problem - yet. The DSL is about $5/month less expensive than the cable modem but that is not a large factor in the decision. _____ Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. _____ Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From t44tq at mindspring.com Thu Sep 4 12:31:16 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904092624.0207c5e8@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <000301c372f9$961dbba0$6400a8c0@newpc> IMHO, DSL is not worth it- I've had _tons_ of problems with DSL, living less than 5000' from the CO and with two different services- the quality of the wire in your home is critical- if you have old wiring, you will have lots of headaches. Taka -----Original Message----- From: quattro-admin@audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:32 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list Subject: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all, Sorry for the lack of AC Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL available in my area. I have been using a cable modem which has been (usually) quite satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both systems and have a recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I realize that there is a loading factor speed penalty when many users are on-line with the cable which does not happen with DSL. So far, that has not been a significant problem - yet. The DSL is about $5/month less expensive than the cable modem but that is not a large factor in the decision. _____ Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. _____ Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From jimbo at sco.com Thu Sep 4 09:54:08 2003 From: jimbo at sco.com (Jim Bonnet) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904092624.0207c5e8@mail.charter.net> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904092624.0207c5e8@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <3F576020.6020905@sco.com> I've had both. My cable modem is significatntly faster than the DSL service I previously had. Both services were/are rated with the same up/down speeds and the cable modem always near the limit. I live in a fairly populated area of california and many people in my area telecommute and use the cable modems extensively. Im not dissapointed with the cable modem... Although my DSL was rock solid for 4 years it went out 1 time! the cable modem has been out 2 or 3 times in 4 months since we've had it.. just briefly but still.. connectivity was lost. i switched because dsl is not available at the new home we bought. bottom line- I wouldnt switch to DSL unless it was significatly cheaper and the bandwidth was guaranteed to be equal or faster ;) to my cable connection. regards- Jim Bonnet Robert Myers wrote: >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > >Hi Y'all, > >Sorry for the lack of AC > >Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL available in my area. I >have been using a cable modem which has been (usually) quite >satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both systems and have a >recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I realize that there is a >loading factor speed penalty when many users are on-line with the cable >which does not happen with DSL. So far, that has not been a significant >problem - yet. The DSL is about $5/month less expensive than the cable >modem but that is not a large factor in the decision. > >_____ > >Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. >_____ > >Bob >***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm >***** >-- > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > -- Jim Bonnet Technical Account Manager The SCO Group 831-427-6809 From brian at atomicham.com Thu Sep 4 11:22:48 2003 From: brian at atomicham.com (Brian Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] HID Installation Writeup Message-ID: <0613622F-DEF4-11D7-AAA6-000393682382@atomicham.com> Greeting listers, I recently purchased and installed a HID upgrade from Eric at Supreme Power Parts via the Group Purchase. It is different than the kit used by Fred Munro in his excellent writeup on urs4.com as the kit I got has standard ballasts which can draw upwards of 30 amps on initial power on. The kit contains everything needed, and I used the alternator for power. The complete writeup on how to install and hide everything is at: Enjoy! Cheers, Brian From mungerts at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 10:22:37 2003 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <20030904160050.20227.16758.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20030904162237.45486.qmail@web20107.mail.yahoo.com> Ditto on Taka's comments, Cable is far superior in my experience. Download speeds on cable are routinely 8-10 times faster with my Cox cable modem (which is the best I've had). Even in the slow times, it's still around 200kbps. My DSL in Boulder, CO was 256kbps... good, but not great. --Scott > > IMHO, > DSL is not worth it- I've had _tons_ of problems > with DSL, living > less than 5000' from the CO and with two different > services- the quality > of the wire in your home is critical- if you have > old wiring, you will > have lots of headaches. > > Taka > > Hi Y'all, > > Sorry for the lack of AC > > Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL > available in my area. I > have been using a cable modem which has been > (usually) quite > satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both > systems and have a > recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I > realize that there > is a loading factor speed penalty when many users > are on-line with the > cable which does not happen with DSL. So far, that > has not been a > significant problem - yet. The DSL is about > $5/month less expensive > than the cable modem but that is not a large factor > in the decision. > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From tr0910 at softhome.net Thu Sep 4 13:24:56 2003 From: tr0910 at softhome.net (Tim Radbourne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? In-Reply-To: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39025AD4D3@xena2000.symyx.com> Message-ID: <000201c37301$2b544390$7903fea9@d850> My 93 S4 has an ignition that takes some force to turn the key. Using the stock keys with the IR fob, you can get enough leverage, but I don't want that huge key in my pocket, so I went and had a key cut. Its difficult to turn this key in the ignition. So difficult in fact that the newly cut key has been twisted by the force required. The stock keys must be made of stronger stuff as there is no sign of them being twisted. I was considering squirting some WD-40 into the ignition. Would it help? Or would it do damage? From robert at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 13:25:32 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904122410.00c73ca0@mail.charter.net> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks everyone. The quick consensus appears to be that I should stick with my cable modem. I will heed the advice. Thanks one and all. _____ WMD still MIA Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From jpostup at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 10:34:19 2003 From: jpostup at yahoo.com (jeff posto) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <000301c372f9$961dbba0$6400a8c0@newpc> Message-ID: <20030904163419.94482.qmail@web40806.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Robert; Don't fix it if it's not broken. Also, Verizon really bandwidth limits their DSL, especially upstream. Taka is right, your POTS line qualitiy is a big technical factor. IF your cable-neighborhood is ligthly loaded, it will appear a lot faster. (It's Ethernet basically) Posto TM wrote: IMHO, DSL is not worth it- I've had _tons_ of problems with DSL, living less than 5000' from the CO and with two different services- the quality of the wire in your home is critical- if you have old wiring, you will have lots of headaches. Taka -----Original Message----- From: quattro-admin@audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:32 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list Subject: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all, Sorry for the lack of AC Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL available in my area. I have been using a cable modem which has been (usually) quite satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both systems and have a recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I realize that there is a loading factor speed penalty when many users are on-line with the cable which does not happen with DSL. So far, that has not been a significant problem - yet. The DSL is about $5/month less expensive than the cable modem but that is not a large factor in the decision. _____ Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. _____ Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From robert at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 13:41:13 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Pump Incantations 101 Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904123354.020cf050@mail.charter.net> Patient: '95 urS6. Operation: R&R fuel pump So far, toe top plate is off the tank, the various hoses and electrical connections are removed, and the fuel gauge sender is removed and out of the way. That part was fairly easy. Now comes the part requiring a special incantation. Apparently it involves some sort of baying at the moon during the winter solstice while dancing and beating a drum. Working blind with only one hand which is mid-forearm deep in fuel, how do I get the FP loose from whatever is holding it? It wiggles around down there quite nicely and feels rather loose but it doesn't seem to want to lift out of there. The purdy pitchers in Bentley don't seen to help a whole lot. Suggestions, please. _____ WMD still MIA Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From brian at atomicham.com Thu Sep 4 11:42:26 2003 From: brian at atomicham.com (Brian Powell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question Message-ID: I had DSL for over a year. I've had cable for almost 3 years. No comparison: cable is far superior. I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky. The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS. Comcast guarantees (and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream. Where that mantra came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections). Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that. Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe 384kbps up). My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and AT&T had to switch us over). BTW, my home phone is over the cable as well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house. Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog cable whether I subscribe or not... Cheers, Brian From bullitt at gwi.net Thu Sep 4 13:56:44 2003 From: bullitt at gwi.net (The Gagnons) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904122410.00c73ca0@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <009301c37305$855affb0$8201a8c0@JGAGNONNEW> I have had 2 dsl services in the past year. Verizon was 768k $35/mo and pretty good. A local company that I have now is 1500k and is $29/mo. Solid speed at a great price. The new DSL that uses an existing phone line is way better than the older dsl. Cable modems are taboo in my parts. Lots of downtime and mor expensive. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Myers" To: ; "Quattro list" Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 12:25 PM Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Thanks everyone. The quick consensus appears to be that I should stick > with my cable modem. I will heed the advice. > > Thanks one and all. > > _____ > WMD still MIA > > Bob > ***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm > ***** > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From einblau at einblau.com Thu Sep 4 11:13:08 2003 From: einblau at einblau.com (Ron Einblau) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? In-Reply-To: <000201c37301$2b544390$7903fea9@d850> References: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39025AD4D3@xena2000.symyx.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030904101129.02003890@pop.islandnet.com> I was steered away from WD40 in the ignition. The rationale was that it will leave a gummy residue over time. I have used sewing machine oil (3-in-1 oil) to loosen up lock tumblers and it has worked very well for me. At 12:24 PM 9/4/2003 -0400, Tim Radbourne wrote: >My 93 S4 has an ignition that takes some force to turn the key. Using >the stock keys with the IR fob, you can get enough leverage, but I don't >want that huge key in my pocket, so I went and had a key cut. Its >difficult to turn this key in the ignition. So difficult in fact that >the newly cut key has been twisted by the force required. The stock >keys must be made of stronger stuff as there is no sign of them being >twisted. > >I was considering squirting some WD-40 into the ignition. Would it >help? Or would it do damage? > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list Ron Einblau 93 S4 Vancouver, B.C. From tfrank at symyx.com Thu Sep 4 11:29:42 2003 From: tfrank at symyx.com (Trevor Frank) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Pump Incantations 101 Message-ID: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39028A847A@xena2000.symyx.com> Ahh yes, this was fun, I broke mine on the way to the one lap, several laceration later and a full gas tank yielded a wonderful chemical burn that reminded me of my trial for at least a week. I suspect the blood in my tank may have caused other problems later. Your fuel pump is in a carrier, it in turn is inside of a tube that is mounted to the gas tank. There should be two arrows that line up when they are tightened together, the inner pot/carrier for your fuel pump and the outer. I used a screw driver to push against the inner pot to spin it the 20 degrees or so that it needs to disengage from the outer. It required quite a bit of strength and after talking to several Audi mechanics about it, none thought it was possible with out the VAG tool. If I remember correctly you will need to spin it counter clock wise, makes sense. Your hand will have to go in nearly parallel to the height of the fuel pump carrier. It may also be possible to do it with a really long screw driver like tool from the outside of the tank reaching into it. To get it back in you do the reverse, I had some issue getting it lodged in correctly so that when I tried to spin it back on with my screw driver it didn't pop back out. Good luck. Trevor. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Myers [mailto:robert@s-cars.org] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:41 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Pump Incantations 101 Patient: '95 urS6. Operation: R&R fuel pump So far, toe top plate is off the tank, the various hoses and electrical connections are removed, and the fuel gauge sender is removed and out of the way. That part was fairly easy. Now comes the part requiring a special incantation. Apparently it involves some sort of baying at the moon during the winter solstice while dancing and beating a drum. Working blind with only one hand which is mid-forearm deep in fuel, how do I get the FP loose from whatever is holding it? It wiggles around down there quite nicely and feels rather loose but it doesn't seem to want to lift out of there. The purdy pitchers in Bentley don't seen to help a whole lot. Suggestions, please. _____ WMD still MIA Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ======= Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains information of Symyx Technologies, Inc. that may be confidential, proprietary, copyrighted, privileged and/or protected work product, and is meant solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please contact the sender immediately, permanently delete the original and any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. From iduff at rcn.com Thu Sep 4 14:57:26 2003 From: iduff at rcn.com (Ian Duff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904092624.0207c5e8@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <000301c3730e$0158d080$6601a8c0@ian> Think about this: there will be a bottleneck somewhere, cable vs DSL just moves that bottleneck around. For that matter, the Internet itself is a bottleneck, given the huge user counts traversing it every day, and the relatively low bandwidth pipes out there. OC-192 start to look pretty small when user counts go over 100 million. DSL gives a dedicated link to the phone company; what if they buy a puny pipe out the other side? Cable makes you share the bandwidth with your neighbor's kids between you and the head end; what if the head end is close to you? I've used both, and currently use cable. It came down to economics and provider reputation for me. Speed is dependent on the provider, not the technology. Good provider has appropriate infrastructure to give good speed, whether DSL or cable. Crappy provider gives crappy speed. Check your provider's reputation for good speed, and then compare prices for similar performance. These two data points will allow you to make an informed decision, one that will stand you in good stead. Absent these two data points, any recommendation will only be based on the recommender's situation. -Ian Duff. -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Thursday, 04 September, 2003 9:32 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list Subject: [s-cars] NAC - cable modem vs DSL question -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Y'all, Sorry for the lack of AC Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL available in my area. I have been using a cable modem which has been (usually) quite satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both systems and have a recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I realize that there is a loading factor speed penalty when many users are on-line with the cable which does not happen with DSL. So far, that has not been a significant problem - yet. The DSL is about $5/month less expensive than the cable modem but that is not a large factor in the decision. _____ Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the shrub-in-chief. _____ Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From eestabrook at syntheticnets.com Thu Sep 4 15:01:24 2003 From: eestabrook at syntheticnets.com (Edward Estabrook) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] mechanic in western Mass? Message-ID: Hi, I've got a 95 S6 and just discovered this list. While I generally like to do as much work as possible myself, I have an extended warranty that is about to expire and wanted to locate a 'good' mechanic to diagnose or fix a bunch of covered items before it runs out (in 900 miles). Anyone have a recommendation in the greater Amherst/Holyoke/Northampton area? Father & Son's Audi dealer has proven beyond incompetent and I will not go back! Thanks! Ed From miikka.salonen at kolumbus.fi Thu Sep 4 22:01:57 2003 From: miikka.salonen at kolumbus.fi (Miikka Salonen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <2803.137.112.128.230.1062683910.squirrel@www.newtsplace.com> Message-ID: > Hey come on it was an ego busting 13.9 seconds at > 6psi....trying to cheat > me out of those extra .2 seconds are ya ;) > Congrats on the dyno run, those are some impressive numbers > indeed! 300whp > is just a cam change away I bet! > Mike > > > Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. > > > > http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html > > Here is also nice dyno chart (411 hp / 486Nm ) from one guy in Finnish Audi list : http://www.kolumbus.fi/etelanlampo/dyno.htm Car is old fwd Audi 100 that now has MC1 engine (10V turbo). Engine management system is Hestec, injectors are Bosch 513cc@4.5bar, custom exhaust manifold (impulse manifold, turbo is Holset H1E 54/65 . Pictures can be found from here: http://www.kolumbus.fi/etelanlampo/projektit.htm Unfortunately the texts are in Finnish, but you can watch the pictures. There are also some videos on the page, but they are made before tuning the car in the dyno. They managed to tune up boost and fine tune the timings/fuel injection that it raised hp's from 330hp to 411hp! Boost presure is now 1.6 bar so there should be still some margin left for stock "downstairs". -Miikka- From Mthdealer at aol.com Thu Sep 4 15:22:33 2003 From: Mthdealer at aol.com (Mthdealer@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] travel help list Message-ID: <4033BB08.08ADAF89.02740056@aol.com> Just added my name to the list. Fairchance Pharmacy 90 W Church St Fairchance Pa 15436 Dave O'Neil owner 724-564-7817 From Mthdealer at aol.com Thu Sep 4 15:22:29 2003 From: Mthdealer at aol.com (Mthdealer@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] travel help list Message-ID: <0259EE2E.1FED9AB7.02740056@aol.com> Just added my name to the list. Fairchance Pharmacy 90 W Church St Fairchance Pa 15436 Dave O'Neil owner 724-564-7817 From karmat at matthias.org Thu Sep 4 16:06:56 2003 From: karmat at matthias.org (Karl N. Matthias) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Message-ID: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Hey listers-- I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much appreciated! On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they are high on something. Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Karl From tedebearp at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 13:30:01 2003 From: tedebearp at yahoo.com (Theodore Chen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Pump Incantations 101 In-Reply-To: <434B90BC7B0F2C45945D653A6B4C5F39028A847A@xena2000.symyx.com> Message-ID: <20030904193001.46895.qmail@web14205.mail.yahoo.com> yikes. maybe it'd be worth it to drain the fuel tank, bob, but make sure you ventilate the area really well and avoid sparks if you do that. you might want to get some dishwashing gloves. keeping your arm submerged in gasoline is NOT a good idea. -teddy --- Trevor Frank wrote: > > Ahh yes, this was fun, I broke mine on the way to the one lap, several > laceration later and a full gas tank yielded a wonderful chemical burn > that reminded me of my trial for at least a week. I suspect the blood > in my tank may have caused other problems later. > > Your fuel pump is in a carrier, it in turn is inside of a tube that is > mounted to the gas tank. There should be two arrows that line up when > they are tightened together, the inner pot/carrier for your fuel pump > and the outer. I used a screw driver to push against the inner pot to > spin it the 20 degrees or so that it needs to disengage from the outer. > It required quite a bit of strength and after talking to several Audi > mechanics about it, none thought it was possible with out the VAG tool. > > If I remember correctly you will need to spin it counter clock wise, > makes sense. > > Your hand will have to go in nearly parallel to the height of the fuel > pump carrier. It may also be possible to do it with a really long screw > driver like tool from the outside of the tank reaching into it. > > To get it back in you do the reverse, I had some issue getting it lodged > in correctly so that when I tried to spin it back on with my screw > driver it didn't pop back out. > > Good luck. > > Trevor. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Robert Myers [mailto:robert@s-cars.org] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:41 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list > Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Pump Incantations 101 > > > Patient: '95 urS6. > Operation: R&R fuel pump > > So far, toe top plate is off the tank, the various hoses and electrical > connections are removed, and the fuel gauge sender is removed and out of > the way. That part was fairly easy. Now comes the part requiring a > special incantation. Apparently it involves some sort of baying at the > moon during the winter solstice while dancing and beating a drum. > Working > blind with only one hand which is mid-forearm deep in fuel, how do I get > the FP loose from whatever is holding it? It wiggles around down there > quite nicely and feels rather loose but it doesn't seem to want to lift > out > of there. The purdy pitchers in Bentley don't seen to help a whole lot. > > Suggestions, please. > > _____ > WMD still MIA > > Bob > ***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm > ***** > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > ======= > Notice: This e-mail message, together with any attachments, contains > information of Symyx Technologies, Inc. that may be confidential, > proprietary, copyrighted, privileged and/or protected work product, > and is meant solely for the intended recipient. If you are not the > intended recipient, and have received this message in error, please > contact the sender immediately, permanently delete the original and > any copies of this email and any attachments thereto. > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From feb at febsun.cmhnet.org Thu Sep 4 16:35:10 2003 From: feb at febsun.cmhnet.org (Franco Barber) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> References: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: <20030904193510.GA10855@febsun.cmhnet.org> Hi, I just drove by your car today. I saw it at the transmission shop as I was leaving the Kroger's nearby. Left side looked pretty bad. Car looked really nice otherwise. I wondered why it was at a transmission shop with that left side damage, and now I know. Sorry, I'm no help with the insurance, just wanted to say hi, shame about the damage, good luck. Franco On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:06:56PM -0400, Karl N. Matthias wrote: > > Hey listers-- > > I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much > enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around > the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and > someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood > crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure > my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in > both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The > B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and > wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, > and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is > toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they > are high on something. > > Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly > appreciated. Thanks! > > Karl > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- Franco Barber feb@febsun.cmhnet.org 95 A6Q w/Gamma CD mit RDS! Columbus, Ohio USA 95 A6Q 5spd w/HCB-30 bluetooth car kit! From aaront at cox-internet.com Thu Sep 4 14:48:02 2003 From: aaront at cox-internet.com (Aaron) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed References: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: <3F5796F2.3000201@cox-internet.com> Karl, Sorry to hear about your misfortune. Damn, ill bet a pearl paint job would set you back at least 3000. Hell I had a egg size dent removed near my tail light lenses which cost a grand! (including lenses) Karl N. Matthias wrote: >Hey listers-- > >I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much >enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around >the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and >someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood >crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure >my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in >both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The >B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and >wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, >and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is >toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't >really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > >I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the >transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the >impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't >take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the >insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they >see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the >accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who >comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an >accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. >So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this >problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift >fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, >without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to >deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much >appreciated! > >On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with >110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were >a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company >thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 >which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they >are high on something. > >Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly >appreciated. Thanks! > >Karl > > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From landaeta1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 17:01:19 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <20030904193510.GA10855@febsun.cmhnet.org> Message-ID: My .02 - from the description, there is concievably no economical way to repair the car to it's former condition. the frame has suffered a severe impact and the painting of (the whole) body would be that first $3000. Frame straigtening body panels, roof / pillar alignment. Given an approximate insurance value of 10-13K, they should total it. usual caveats - i'm not a professional in any regards on these matters and i have'nt seen the vehicle in question. Doug L -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Franco Barber Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:35 PM To: karl@matthias.org Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Hi, I just drove by your car today. I saw it at the transmission shop as I was leaving the Kroger's nearby. Left side looked pretty bad. Car looked really nice otherwise. I wondered why it was at a transmission shop with that left side damage, and now I know. Sorry, I'm no help with the insurance, just wanted to say hi, shame about the damage, good luck. Franco On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 03:06:56PM -0400, Karl N. Matthias wrote: > > Hey listers-- > > I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much > enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around > the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and > someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood > crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure > my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in > both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The > B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and > wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, > and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is > toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they > are high on something. > > Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly > appreciated. Thanks! > > Karl > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- Franco Barber feb@febsun.cmhnet.org 95 A6Q w/Gamma CD mit RDS! Columbus, Ohio USA 95 A6Q 5spd w/HCB-30 bluetooth car kit! _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From landaeta1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 17:02:14 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: Very sorry to hear about the unfortunate event... Doug L 94 S4 Pearl -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Karl N. Matthias Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:07 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Hey listers-- I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much appreciated! On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they are high on something. Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Karl _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bernard at littau.us Thu Sep 4 13:59:39 2003 From: bernard at littau.us (Bernard Littau) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: <000001c3731f$131d65e0$1823dbcd@BLR31W2K> Hi Karl, Was the car in gear when it was hit? Also, it may not be the transmission per se, but the transmission mounts, or the alignment between the shifter and the transmission, that are out of whack. This does not bode well for the frame of the car as a whole. Sounds like your floor may have buckled due to the impact. Bernard Littau Woodinville, WA > > Hey listers-- > > I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much > enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around > the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and > someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood > crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure > my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in > both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The > B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and > wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, > and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is > toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they > are high on something. > > Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly > appreciated. Thanks! > > Karl > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From lee at wheelman.com Thu Sep 4 17:27:25 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <3F5796F2.3000201@cox-internet.com> Message-ID: Karl N. Matthias wrote: > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. > Any advice, evidence, etc is much appreciated! Get yourself a public insurance adjuster...a guy that works for you and knows how to deal with the insurance company. They typically take 10% off the top, but it's well worth it. We worked with one on some water damage to the house, and they doubled the insurance company's initial offer (and we didn't think we were due anything!) Lee From smarinello at charter.net Thu Sep 4 16:32:44 2003 From: smarinello at charter.net (Steve Marinello) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question References: Message-ID: <009a01c37323$b4357e00$6401a8c0@TerralogGOM> FWIW, my experience here north of New Orleans is the exact opposite. DSL at a rock solid 1.4+ Mbps without problem or slowdowns. Charter.net cable at nowhere near that speed and ALWAYS slower in the evenings and weekends. Outages with way too many medium-size thunderstorms and every major tropical storm-type system, and they may last for days. The last two, a few weeks apart, lasted nearly 3 and 4 days. Totally unacceptable. I've recommended to Bob to check the offered speed and guarantee. No comparison, in my experience and those of my neighbors and professional colleagues in the area. I only got cable because telocity/directvinternet shut down their DSL service and Charter offered a "too cheap to pass up" deal with a performance guarantee that seemed decent. Just not in the real world and thunderstorm activity isn't covered. I only keep it 'cause in the cable package it's costing me under $20/month. Steve (BellSouth DSL now, but I've still got to get around to changing subscription addresses...sometime) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Powell" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > I had DSL for over a year. I've had cable for almost 3 years. No > comparison: cable is far superior. > > I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky. > > The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS. Comcast guarantees > (and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream. Where that mantra > came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth > that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot > of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will > still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections). > Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and > vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that. > Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe > 384kbps up). > > My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and > AT&T had to switch us over). BTW, my home phone is over the cable as > well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house. > > Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter > yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog > cable whether I subscribe or not... > > Cheers, > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From robert at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 17:32:56 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's Alive Again, Jim!!!" Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904162942.020ce4f0@mail.charter.net> Thanks for all the help, Y'all. The problem was indeed a dead fuel pump. New pump installed after much aggravation until the locking clips were found. Easy once the incantation is known. The car is now running again! I love it when a plan comes together. :-) _____ WMD are MIA Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 14:38:06 2003 From: fastscirocco_2000 at yahoo.com (chris chambers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: <20030904203806.75470.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Karl, I am presently having my 93 S4 repainted due to paint damage, there is no bodywork to be done, just paint work. The estimate for the repairs came to over $4,700, and this was without replacing any body parts, or repairing any sheatmetal. There is no way they are going to fix your car and repaint it at the amount you quoted. I would find an Audi dealership (or a dealer recommended body shop)that does body work and get an estimate. I believe they are low balling you big time! As for the transmission, sure it was probably caused by somebody speed shifting it like the mechanic described...the individual that did it was the thief that took your car on the joy ride. I am sure you have more than one witness that can testify to the fact that the car drove perfectly fine before it was stolen. They way it was driven around the neighborhood indicates the way it was treated. Get your own estimate, and don't give in! They may need to be reminded that this is expensive paint, and that the car will have to be completely stripped and repainted so that it will all match. Also remind them that while the shop can do their best to provide you with a quality paint job, it will still be second best to the factory paint job. Don't let them just touch up damaged parts, they will try to push for that. Also beware that they will want the body shop to tape off parts rather then remove them. They have to put the car back into the shape it was before it was stolen. This includes a paint job that all body panels match with no feathering in the paint to try and hide the repair. If they try to spot paint the car it won't match, not on this pearl paint. Is the car financially repairable, maybe...maybe not. Find the best body/frame shop and have them inspect the car. If the frame is bent too much you may not be able to repair it. Bottom line, you do not have to accept their estimate. You can insist on an independant 3rd party providing an estimate. You do not have to have it repaired at the shop they recommend. They will try to minimize their costs as much as possible. Be polite but firm, if you have photos of the car before the wreck use them as evidence to the condition of the car. If they don't seem to want to make a reasonable offer to repair your car you have the right to go to arbitration. They do not want to have to go that route, they lost all capability of negotiating a settlement then. Hope this has helped, I would be glad to help further but I am getting married tomorrow and will be off on my honeymoon. Please feel free to keep me informed, I will be glad to offer any advice I can. Chris --- "Karl N. Matthias" wrote: > > Hey listers-- > > I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very > much > enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, > around > the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, > and > someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her > neighborhood > crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police > figure > my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that > caved-in > both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The > B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up > and > wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear > one, > and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is > toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission > won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who > wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that > they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the > accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent > shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked > fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had > to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, > with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats > were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance > company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for > $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think > they > are high on something. > > Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly > appreciated. Thanks! > > Karl > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From smarinello at charter.net Thu Sep 4 16:40:09 2003 From: smarinello at charter.net (Steve Marinello) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question References: Message-ID: <00e601c37324$bd1d8070$6401a8c0@TerralogGOM> I should have also added that I delayed getting DSL again because I was waiting for Earthlink to be able to provide me service so that I could get their national dial-up monthly minutes, which BellSouth does not have. It was not available, as it turned out, due to their systems apparent incompatibility with the optical cable run in my area (not that that really makes sense), but I finally went with BellSouth when I got fed up with the cable service. Of course, after six months of waiting, I signed up for BellSouth and got an email from Earthlink three days later saying that they could now service my DSL needs. Just perfect... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Powell" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > I had DSL for over a year. I've had cable for almost 3 years. No > comparison: cable is far superior. > > I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky. > > The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS. Comcast guarantees > (and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream. Where that mantra > came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth > that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot > of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will > still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections). > Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and > vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that. > Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe > 384kbps up). > > My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and > AT&T had to switch us over). BTW, my home phone is over the cable as > well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house. > > Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter > yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog > cable whether I subscribe or not... > > Cheers, > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From mungerts at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 14:44:31 2003 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <20030904201637.6421.44092.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20030904204431.3869.qmail@web20105.mail.yahoo.com> Sorry to hear about that :-\ Are you covered for comprehensive? Doesn't it seem highly probable that the assailant power-shifted in his stint of joy-riding? Shouldn't the insurance company question that even if the accident didn't cause the problem, there was someone driving the car who really didn't care what happened who could have very well caused it? Sticky situation dealing with insurance companies as they certainly don't *want* to pay. If it were me, I'd closely read my policy then I'd try to find an advocate at the insurance company that would at least recognize that the damage could be caused by the theif. I'd work my way up the management chain until I got something. If that didn't work, there is enough money at stake to justify threatening legal action. Good luck! --Scott __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From lee at wheelman.com Thu Sep 4 18:21:30 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <009a01c37323$b4357e00$6401a8c0@TerralogGOM> Message-ID: Steve writes: > > FWIW, my experience here north of New Orleans is the exact > opposite. DSL at a rock solid 1.4+ Mbps without problem or slowdowns. Location is everything. I've run AT&T, RCN (both cable), ISDN, and Verizon DSL. The first two were rock solid. AT&T had a couple of glitches early on, and I kept an analog modem handy. RCN has also been rock solid, up until recently. Now they seem to go flaky every now and then, and I can't figure out why. Weird. ISDN. Worked like a charm (for me) and I figured out a way to get 24x7 service for a flat monthly rate of $55. Verizon didn't like that very much. DSL. Worked okay. This was in the early days, and I had gotten accustomed to the fast uploads of cable. First time I sent a big file I thought something had blown up. It was reasonably reliable. If I were you, I'd stick with cable. :) Lee From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 18:33:06 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Bleeding Clutch Hydraulic System In-Reply-To: <002101c3709b$bea741a0$9c00a8c0@henrysp200> References: <002101c3709b$bea741a0$9c00a8c0@henrysp200> Message-ID: <3F57AF92.6050307@s-cars.org> Brent Henry wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I have just replaced both the Master Clutch Cylinder and the Slave Clutch Cylinder on my '92 S4. I initially attempted to "gravity bleed" the system by filling the brake fluid reservoir and by cracking open the bleeder valve on the slave cylinder and allowing gravity to pull the fluid through the system (draining through a hose into a container). > > This seemed to be working... after about a half an hour some fluid started dripping through the bleeder valve! I have heard (somewhere on this list) that this method takes a fair bit of time... so, I continued with this method for over 15 hours (overnight), filling the brake fluid reservoir every few of hours to ensure that I don't introduce any new air bubbles into the system! > > This morning I closed the bleeder valve up tight and checked for pressure in the clutch pedal... there was no pressure! It went right to the floor? So, I began pumping the clutch pedal by hand (as to facilitate lifting the pedal up to normal rest position)... after about 300 pumps, I started to detect some pressure in the bottom inch or two of the pedal movement. However, at 800 pumps there is no significant increase in pressure at the pedal? > > I remember doing this procedure in my old '88 5KTQW, it only took about 1000 pumps to get the system fully pressurized (however, I only changed the Master Cylinder)... by changing both master and slave cylinders, does this mean that it requires twice as many pumps? > > Can someone who has BTDT provide some feedback on how best to bleed this system. > Thanks, > Brent. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > Brent, clutch bleeding requires a pressure bleder. You can get one for ca. $50. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From mungerts at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 17:06:57 2003 From: mungerts at yahoo.com (Scott Munger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <1062715517.5806.4.camel@stuart.newtsplace.com> Message-ID: <20030904230657.40250.qmail@web20108.mail.yahoo.com> Lol! Well, isn't my imagination running off the handle. Sorry, strike that from the record :-\ --Scott --- Nate Stuart wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-04 at 16:44, Scott Munger wrote: > > Sorry to hear about that :-\ > > > > Are you covered for comprehensive? > > > > Doesn't it seem highly probable that the assailant > > power-shifted in his stint of joy-riding? > > It wasn't _his_ car that was stolen, his car was hit > by a stolen car. At > least thats how his email read. > > -Nate > '89 90tq > www.newtsplace.com/90tq > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From tvandervoort at msn.com Thu Sep 4 19:37:20 2003 From: tvandervoort at msn.com (Tom Vandervoort) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] FW: e//S2's about to ride again! Message-ID: S-Car Grupees: Since I know many of you and you know my e//S2, it seemed appropriate to fwd the update I sent to the eS2 list. Hope to see many of you at Road America and in Cal-i-for-ni-ae! Tom -----Original Message----- From: Tom Vandervoort [mailto:tvandervoort@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:08 PM To: es2@audifans.com Subject: e//S2's about to ride again! The e//S2 is about to ride again! As many of you know, my baby threw a rod at 100mph+ just after Turn 1 at Mid-Ohio in June. Turns out the rod came out both sides of the lower block. A mess! I decided to apply the cost of transport to Minnesota to the engine replacement and have Chris Smith of Smith's Import Specialties in Chagrin Falls, OH near Cleveland do the job. With over 30 years of Audi high performance experience, Chris came highly recommended. We were about to buy a 100,000 mile 3B, when Chris found a really good deal on a factory rebuilt 3B in July. He's told me and Dean Treadway (when Dean was having his 20vt urQ serviced there) that the engine is brand new. That was confirmed during engine installation this past holiday weekend when Chris was installing a new windage tray in the 3B. He found the inside, crank and bearings to be new. This weekend's work found the oil flter housing was damaged. Chris is seeking a new one from Ohioan Rick Houck who, along with his 10v CQ race car owns two others. A bad throw-out bearing just discovered is also being replaced. The e//S2 should be ready for Road America in just over two weeks. We'll be driving the car out to California in mid-November for the Audi Club Nationals at Sears Point and the rest of the winter West Coast events. Hope to see Mary Medo's and Jimmy Pribble's rebuilt cars there, too! My admiration for all of you personally converting your eS2's is without bounds. It's great to read of your overcoming every challenge great or small and another tribute to all the mutual help on the various quattro and s-cars lists. With Jimmy setting up the registry, we'll all have a record. My updated details will be on the way shortly, Jimmy. Tom '91 e//S2 '91 200tq Avant '99 A4 1.8t Avant From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 20:53:45 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 4444 interrogation sequence... In-Reply-To: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F60356200E@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> References: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F60356200E@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> Message-ID: <3F57D089.6070502@s-cars.org> Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK) wrote: > Igor secretagentman Kessel spied: > > << That is the end of the interrogation sequence. If you see nothing > in-between the two adjacent 4444, then there are no recorded faults. > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros>>> > > > > > > Bwwahahahahaha... somehow can't help reading that Igor w/o hearing your > Rusky accent overtones in it... 8-) I'll never pull codes the same now > again, heh heh... > > -Paulienoaccent K. Paul, you should hear me talk... Oh, wait a minute. You did hear me talk not even the full fortnight ago over at your place. And to add insult to hte injury I had a pint of bitter in my hand. :) -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From MartinGG at aetna.com Thu Sep 4 21:12:56 2003 From: MartinGG at aetna.com (Martin, Gary G) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Fuel Pump Incantations 101 Message-ID: Removed the fuel pump on my 91 200 recently. I was able to turn the locking ring by hand. Not sure it is the same setup in the S4, but you may want to try removing it with a heavy gloved hand.(to prevent cuts) Removes counterclockwise as Trevor indicated. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Trevor Frank [mailto:tfrank@symyx.com] Your fuel pump is in a carrier, it in turn is inside of a tube that is mounted to the gas tank. There should be two arrows that line up when they are tightened together, the inner pot/carrier for your fuel pump and the outer. I used a screw driver to push against the inner pot to spin it the 20 degrees or so that it needs to disengage from the outer. It required quite a bit of strength and after talking to several Audi mechanics about it, none thought it was possible with out the VAG tool. If I remember correctly you will need to spin it counter clock wise, makes sense. Your hand will have to go in nearly parallel to the height of the fuel pump carrier. It may also be possible to do it with a really long screw driver like tool from the outside of the tank reaching into it. To get it back in you do the reverse, I had some issue getting it lodged in correctly so that when I tried to spin it back on with my screw driver it didn't pop back out. Good luck. Trevor. This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna From MartinGG at aetna.com Thu Sep 4 21:23:29 2003 From: MartinGG at aetna.com (Martin, Gary G) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors Message-ID: If it is like my 200, just pry them off from the top or bottom. Put some tape on the housing to prevent damage and spray WD40 liberally in back of the glass. Was held in place by 4 plastic clips. Gary -----Original Message----- From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:41 PM To: Rokas Reipa; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] side view mirrors Rokas Reipa opined: > > Hey everyone. On my 95.5 S6, both of the side view mirrors are about > half-delaminated. On both of them, part of the mirror is a big ugly > brown splotch. Consequently, they will not pass state inspection. What > can I do in this case? Do I have to purchase complete mirror > assemblies or will a cheaper solution suffice? Thanks, You can purchase the glass portion of the mirror from the dealer. There's a trick to popping the old mirror glass off, and the new glass goes on nicely. Do a google search to find the trick, I don't know it offhand...but with two mirrors of my own (both left side) showing the same aging, I'll be figuring it out soon :) Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list This e-mail may contain confidential or privileged information. If you think you have received this e-mail in error, please advise the sender by reply e-mail and then delete this e-mail immediately. Thank you. Aetna From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Thu Sep 4 21:26:26 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> from "Karl N. Matthias" at Sep 04, 2003 03:06:56 PM Message-ID: <200309050026.h850QQb04225@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier, Karl N. Matthias wrote: > After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! First, I wouldn't let a transmission shop take it apart unless they have have the tools to work on and adjust an 01E transmission. And, unless they have a significant amount of experience working on these transmissions - that means more than two in the last 5 years. If they take apart and put it back together without the adjustment tools, they may screw it up worse. I'm also in Columbus. What shop did the insurance company want you to take it to? You might call me tomorrow, 271-1418, and we can discuss this. It sounds to me like the transmission has shifted position with respect to the body, and that your shifting problem is 'probably' a linkage out-of-adjustment problem. > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they > are high on something. I completely agree, the paint will run you over #$3000. Insist that the repair be done at the MAG body shop, their estimate will certainly be way different. - Charlie -- Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-271-1418 http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~charlie/ Columbus Ohio USA SMS: charlie.sms@elektro.com From neilsphoto at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 18:31:26 2003 From: neilsphoto at yahoo.com (Neil Swanson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Two GT2 shots Message-ID: <20030905003126.12834.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> -- Hey Here's one shot at rest and another as we remember it, taking off like a bottle rocket. Neil __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com -- Content-Description: GT2 at rest.jpg [ GT2 at rest.jpg of type image/jpeg deleted ] -- Content-Description: GT2 at speed.jpg [ GT2 at speed.jpg of type image/jpeg deleted ] From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 4 21:35:34 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> Message-ID: <000001c37345$9eee7070$2667fea9@principal> Javad, If you continues to ridicule our 20VT in that way, one will see soon S-listers plan a 10VT _upgrade_ on their urS! Hopefully, Hap keep posting from time to time a dyno run to convince us to keep our 20VT. Vincent -----Message d'origine----- De?: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de JShadzi@aol.com Envoy??: 3 sept. 2003 23:56 ??: quattro@audifans.com; urq@audifans.com; s-car-list@audifans.com; ba-group@audifans.com Objet?: [s-cars] 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it below. http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html Javad 80tq.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 21:53:24 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: <20030903141832.45795.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030903141832.45795.qmail@web12502.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3F57DE84.6000107@s-cars.org> Mike Platt wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Just did my right front outer a month ago. By the > Genuine LoBro kit from a good foreign parts store. It > comes with bolt, bands, clip, boot, and grease. > Cost... about $20 > > Here is what you need to do( from what I remember): > 1) Loosen hub bolt with car on ground. > 2) Jack car up, remove tire. > 3) Disconnect sway bar from body (the hardest part of > job, I felt. > 4)Disconnect ball joint, I needed a pry pipe, PB > blaster, and a hammer. > 5)Remove bolt for CV joint. > 6) pull shaft out > 7) Put bolt back on joint and tighten to remove CV > joint from shaft > 8) Put on new boot, circlip and repack joint with > grease > 9) Slide everything back on shaft. Watch those > splines, or you'll be filing them down to get them to > realign (don't ask) > 10)Put joint back in hub > 11) put bolt back on, snug up > 12)Put ball joint back in. I used antiseize on it and > cleaned out mounting points. > 13)Reconnect sway bar to body. Real tough part. I used > a jack to put pressure on bar. Two man job for me: 1 > kid and I. > 14) Lower car and torque bolt to specs. I think it was > 150lbs plus 1/4 turn in the Bentley. > > Took me about 3 hrs. If there is a way around the bar > issue, Id like to know how. I couldn't get the ball > joint out until, I did that.....or you can pay a > garage about $150 to do it all. > > Good Luck. > Mike, I didn't do the ?? 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to the extreme locked position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 21:58:32 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re:[s-s-cars] 4444 interrogation sequence In-Reply-To: <41E8BFB8-DD90-11D7-9266-000502D6096C@comcast.net> References: <41E8BFB8-DD90-11D7-9266-000502D6096C@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3F57DFB8.5010408@s-cars.org> Tom Green wrote: > Igor is correct, of course. The 4444 code is usually good news. > Although not definitive in diagnosing the problem, it at least > eliminates several things, including several valves slamming into > pistons with enough force to activate the antiknock sensor :-) So you > really don't go back to square one. > PK still has some cold war issues that Ronny and Gorby didn't resolve ?? > I think it's IVAN ( a cossack, no doubt ) who runs the Lubianka auto > diagnostic center and is known for finding the answer. > Igor already knows the answer, from Motronic telepathy, I think :-) > > Tom, spoofing the spooks. That's the word, Tom, and the front and the rear plates on my car can back up this claim. As well as the European white oval with the appropriate country code on the boot lid :) Alas, Rich's pic of the rear of my car did not make it to the S-site. :( -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From landaeta1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 21:59:29 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <20030904203806.75470.qmail@web14202.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Chris, BTW, I read it that some other stolen car was on the joyride and Karl's parked car was collateral damage in the incident. If this is so, then the insurance company may have a third party to go after- not that that third party has anything to offer. I have a long-standing judgement against a wrongful party and that doesn't mean I'll ever see anything like real $$$. Doug L -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of chris chambers Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:38 PM To: karl@matthias.org; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Karl, I am presently having my 93 S4 repainted due to paint damage, there is no bodywork to be done, just paint work. The estimate for the repairs came to over $4,700, and this was without replacing any body parts, or repairing any sheatmetal. There is no way they are going to fix your car and repaint it at the amount you quoted. I would find an Audi dealership (or a dealer recommended body shop)that does body work and get an estimate. I believe they are low balling you big time! As for the transmission, sure it was probably caused by somebody speed shifting it like the mechanic described...the individual that did it was the thief that took your car on the joy ride. I am sure you have more than one witness that can testify to the fact that the car drove perfectly fine before it was stolen. They way it was driven around the neighborhood indicates the way it was treated. Get your own estimate, and don't give in! They may need to be reminded that this is expensive paint, and that the car will have to be completely stripped and repainted so that it will all match. Also remind them that while the shop can do their best to provide you with a quality paint job, it will still be second best to the factory paint job. Don't let them just touch up damaged parts, they will try to push for that. Also beware that they will want the body shop to tape off parts rather then remove them. They have to put the car back into the shape it was before it was stolen. This includes a paint job that all body panels match with no feathering in the paint to try and hide the repair. If they try to spot paint the car it won't match, not on this pearl paint. Is the car financially repairable, maybe...maybe not. Find the best body/frame shop and have them inspect the car. If the frame is bent too much you may not be able to repair it. Bottom line, you do not have to accept their estimate. You can insist on an independant 3rd party providing an estimate. You do not have to have it repaired at the shop they recommend. They will try to minimize their costs as much as possible. Be polite but firm, if you have photos of the car before the wreck use them as evidence to the condition of the car. If they don't seem to want to make a reasonable offer to repair your car you have the right to go to arbitration. They do not want to have to go that route, they lost all capability of negotiating a settlement then. Hope this has helped, I would be glad to help further but I am getting married tomorrow and will be off on my honeymoon. Please feel free to keep me informed, I will be glad to offer any advice I can. Chris --- "Karl N. Matthias" wrote: > > Hey listers-- > > I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very > much > enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, > around > the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, > and > someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her > neighborhood > crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police > figure > my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that > caved-in > both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The > B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up > and > wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear > one, > and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is > toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission > won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who > wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that > they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the > accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent > shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked > fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had > to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, > with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats > were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance > company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for > $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think > they > are high on something. > > Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly > appreciated. Thanks! > > Karl > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== 93 Audi S4 silver, 93 Audi S4 black, 85 VW Scirocco 2.0 not stock :-) 73 Porsche 914 2.0 (67,000 original miles, stock), 67 GMC Long Step pickup 95% complete frame off restoration, 86 VW Scirocco Wolfsburg "If things seem really under control, you're not going fast enough. - Mario Andretti" "It's not how much you make, but how much you don't spend!" __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From landaeta1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 22:06:35 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <200309050026.h850QQb04225@elektro.cmhnet.org> Message-ID: Sorry for all the bandwidth on this, but if you recently bought the car, you have documented proof of it's market value. In one of my tenant-landlord disputes, a judge allowed my purchase/installation receipt for newly installed carpet (just prior to the 2-year tenancy) to serve as fair replacement value for the completely destroyed carpet by the tenant. - no further expert testimony or professional estimates required. Seems like a reasonable objective to recover what you have invested in recently and ... uh.. get another one, I hope. Best of Luck. Doug L -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Charlie Smith Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:26 PM To: karl@matthias.org Cc: Audi S Car List; Charlie Smith Subject: Re: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Earlier, Karl N. Matthias wrote: > After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't > really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. > > I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the > transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the > impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't > take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the > insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they > see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the > accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who > comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an > accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. > So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this > problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift > fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, > without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to > deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much > appreciated! First, I wouldn't let a transmission shop take it apart unless they have have the tools to work on and adjust an 01E transmission. And, unless they have a significant amount of experience working on these transmissions - that means more than two in the last 5 years. If they take apart and put it back together without the adjustment tools, they may screw it up worse. I'm also in Columbus. What shop did the insurance company want you to take it to? You might call me tomorrow, 271-1418, and we can discuss this. It sounds to me like the transmission has shifted position with respect to the body, and that your shifting problem is 'probably' a linkage out-of-adjustment problem. > > On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with > 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were > a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company > thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 > which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they > are high on something. I completely agree, the paint will run you over #$3000. Insist that the repair be done at the MAG body shop, their estimate will certainly be way different. - Charlie -- Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-271-1418 http://elektro.cmhnet.org/~charlie/ Columbus Ohio USA SMS: charlie.sms@elektro.com _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From tr0910 at softhome.net Thu Sep 4 22:07:33 2003 From: tr0910 at softhome.net (Tim Radbourne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? In-Reply-To: <20030904192651.GA10701@febsun.cmhnet.org> Message-ID: <000401c3734a$18d67d70$7903fea9@d850> I maybe overestimating the stickiness of the ignition. I've only had the car 2 months, so can't comment on changes over time. Yes it can be really bad if the steering wheel needs yanked, but that is not the issue here. No other ignition oddities. Perhaps its just the weakness of the Wal Mart key stock that is the problem causing the key to have a slight twist in it (although I had a second key cut at a locksmith and it also has twisted). The original factory key with the IR fob isn't twisted at all and the car has 140,000 miles on it. I would estimate both newly cut keys to be twisted about 15 degrees and this hasn't changed in several weeks. Perhaps its nothing to worry about... Just didn't want to have the key break off inside the ignition. Anyone else have an S4 key they had cut from their local Wal Mart/Kmart develop a slight twist over time??? Thanks.... -----Original Message----- From: Franco Barber [mailto:feb@febsun.cmhnet.org] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 3:27 PM To: Tim Radbourne Subject: Re: [s-cars] Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? Tim, It should not require that much force. My cars sometimes require that the steering wheel be yanked one way or the other before the lock will turn at all, but when you once get the wheel in the right place the key does not require a lot of force to turn. Has it always taken this much force or has this changed over time? Does fighting the steering wheel help any? Any other ignition related oddities? Clicking noises, inside lights or AC head won't stay on, various electrical oddities that go away when you wiggle the key? There's a good chance that some part of the ignition switch has gone bad and needs replacing. The tumbler part that you can see from the front is separate from the electrical part in the rear. The electrical part tends to go bad every 4 or so years, so if yours has only been replaced once there's a good chance it needs to be replaced. Good news is this is only a $30 part. Takes about two hours to replace the first time you do it. I've had to do each of my two cars. See this link for my story: http://www.elektro.com/~audi/ignswitch/ Franco On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 12:24:56PM -0400, Tim Radbourne wrote: > My 93 S4 has an ignition that takes some force to turn the key. Using > the stock keys with the IR fob, you can get enough leverage, but I > don't want that huge key in my pocket, so I went and had a key cut. > Its difficult to turn this key in the ignition. So difficult in fact > that the newly cut key has been twisted by the force required. The > stock keys must be made of stronger stuff as there is no sign of them > being twisted. > > I was considering squirting some WD-40 into the ignition. Would it > help? Or would it do damage? > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > -- Franco Barber feb@febsun.cmhnet.org 95 A6Q w/Gamma CD mit RDS! Columbus, Ohio USA 95 A6Q 5spd w/HCB-30 bluetooth car kit! From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 4 22:13:10 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: <000001c3734a$dfdc0b60$2667fea9@principal> Karl, I cannot help you regarding the tranny but there is two point I noticed. First, the B-pillar. We're not talking about body panels anymore. We're talking about frame work. Before you get too deep in the tranny issue, I would have the alignement checked. If the car is not straight anymore, forget about repairs. Have it totalled. I haven't seen yet a frame work which brings the car back to what it was. Even if the alignement is still correct, the B-pillar may/will squeal/squeak for ever because there is a fraction of a milimeter gap between the trim and the metal. Which lead to the second point. The best place to have an estimate for a repair when you deal with your insurance co is an Audi dealer. If they don't want to look at the tranny, ask for an estimate for the body/frame work only. It should be enough. I don't know how they do that but they always come with an estimate twice to four times higher than any other body shop or mechanics, BTDT. And, as they are "The specialists" of your car, an insurance co will have a hard time to proove their own generic estimator know more about your car than an Audi dealer, BTDT too. BTW, when/if the insurance co agree to total your car, never go to a dealer to have an estimate for your car value. Dealers hate anything older than three years and will rate your car accordingly, BTDT three. HTH, Vincent. -----Message d'origine----- De?: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Karl N. Matthias Envoy??: 4 sept. 2003 15:07 ??: s-car-list@audifans.com Objet?: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Hey listers-- I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much appreciated! On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they are high on something. Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Karl _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From CaptMagu at aol.com Thu Sep 4 22:17:57 2003 From: CaptMagu at aol.com (CaptMagu@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] FW: e//S2's about to ride again! Message-ID: <15f.253946e4.2c893e45@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Tom Brian, we'll do it my way or else, Billotti has talked me into bringing out the Happersized S4 to California in November. I'll be looking forward to meeting you there. Hap, just feelin the Aloha in Everboost, Maguire From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 4 22:20:58 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <002001c3728e$2426c930$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: <000101c3734b$f6d43670$2667fea9@principal> As suggested by other listers, you can replace the glass only. If you choose this option, pull gently on the original glass as the plastic clips tend to become brittle over time. Also, put crazy glue on the side of the new glasses to seal them so they won't rust again. You can also find acrylic mirors you can glue on the original glass. Cheap, easy and no risk. Downside, the defrost won't be as efficient and I don't know about long term issues. Blaufergnungen had them precut for the Audi 90 so they may have them for the urS6 too. If not, glass shop usually carry them in large sheets and can custom cut it for you. Vincent. -----Message d'origine----- De?: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Rokas Reipa Envoy??: 3 sept. 2003 22:42 ??: s-car-list@audifans.com Objet?: [s-cars] side view mirrors Hey everyone. On my 95.5 S6, both of the side view mirrors are about half-delaminated. On both of them, part of the mirror is a big ugly brown splotch. Consequently, they will not pass state inspection. What can I do in this case? Do I have to purchase complete mirror assemblies or will a cheaper solution suffice? Thanks, Rokas 95.5 Tornado Red UrS6 _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 21:42:51 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm In-Reply-To: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F603562307@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> References: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F603562307@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> Message-ID: <3F57DC0B.2090106@s-cars.org> Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK) wrote: > ...but Bob, that spare cluster of yours does look sooooooo good in my car > now as result... I dig them trim rings around the gauges, not to mention my > new E-brake indicator symbol (Canadian cluster with "!"). THANKS! 8-). > > -P anyone else got free parts K. Paul, are you saying that the original cluster off my '97 UrS ended up in your car? Caniballised to boot? -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From CaptMagu at aol.com Thu Sep 4 22:30:53 2003 From: CaptMagu at aol.com (CaptMagu@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question Message-ID: <1ed.f490da0.2c89414d@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Lee Due to a very fortunate business relationship my wife and I share a T1 line in our home at no cost to us. Its very very fast. Something like 1.5 gigabits per second. As you can see, even though I fly a computer loaded airplane I am very computer challenged in real life. I guess you could say I've got a Happersized internet connection. Hap, feelin the speed in Everboost, Maguire From munrof at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 4 22:38:56 2003 From: munrof at sympatico.ca (Fred Munro) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: Sorry to hear about your car, Karl. Sounds like heavy damage, a lot more than $3000 worth. My guess on your tranny problems is that the shift linkage is out of adjustment due to the impact, rather than a problem in the tranny itself. Good luck! Fred Munro '94 S4 -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Karl N. Matthias Sent: September 4, 2003 3:07 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Hey listers-- I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much appreciated! On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they are high on something. Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Karl _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 21:50:00 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F57DDB8.4040002@s-cars.org> Paul Heneghan wrote: > Hello chaps, > > My annual inspection has just shown that I've got a split CV joint boot > (front left outer). I presume the replacement method is the same as on > the old 100 (5000 in the US). I can't remember how much of the > suspension I've got to dismantle - do I need to disconnect the anti-roll > bar (sway bar in the US) and the tie rod and the lower control arm? I > remember years ago on a VW Passat being able to remove the drive shaft > without disconecting any of those things. > > Should I replace the hub nut (or is it a bolt these day?). > > I'd be grateful for any BTDTs. > > Paul > > BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ Paul, no need to remove any suspension parts. The new boot kit comes with the new bolt, boot, two clamps and a squeesable bottle of grease. You'll need to procure the OETIKER CLAMP PLIERS, KD 424 or equivalent. Keep in mind that whereas the OEM bolt is 27mm hex, the replacement bolt will be the 17mm Allen, so you can use your gearbox Allen socket to tighten it up. Oh, and you'll need the Triple Square 12-pointer bit too. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From landaeta1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 22:58:23 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <009a01c37323$b4357e00$6401a8c0@TerralogGOM> Message-ID: interesting, sounds like some 'you get what you pay for' My cable service is NOT cheap, with digital TV cable and internet, I'm at about $108. But in my densly populated area, I have no significant outages (maybe 1-2 per year of less than 4 hour duration) and the network upgrades of cable head-ends along with proper load balancing may be why I see good service, not affected by time of day/day of week. There's a place for cheap, but it's not internet for me, just too damn addicted... Doug L 94 S4 Cable internet since 1996 -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Steve Marinello Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:33 PM To: robert@s-cars.org; Brian Powell Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question FWIW, my experience here north of New Orleans is the exact opposite. DSL at a rock solid 1.4+ Mbps without problem or slowdowns. Charter.net cable at nowhere near that speed and ALWAYS slower in the evenings and weekends. Outages with way too many medium-size thunderstorms and every major tropical storm-type system, and they may last for days. The last two, a few weeks apart, lasted nearly 3 and 4 days. Totally unacceptable. I've recommended to Bob to check the offered speed and guarantee. No comparison, in my experience and those of my neighbors and professional colleagues in the area. I only got cable because telocity/directvinternet shut down their DSL service and Charter offered a "too cheap to pass up" deal with a performance guarantee that seemed decent. Just not in the real world and thunderstorm activity isn't covered. I only keep it 'cause in the cable package it's costing me under $20/month. Steve (BellSouth DSL now, but I've still got to get around to changing subscription addresses...sometime) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Powell" To: Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:42 AM Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > I had DSL for over a year. I've had cable for almost 3 years. No > comparison: cable is far superior. > > I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky. > > The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS. Comcast guarantees > (and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream. Where that mantra > came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth > that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot > of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will > still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections). > Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and > vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that. > Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe > 384kbps up). > > My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and > AT&T had to switch us over). BTW, my home phone is over the cable as > well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house. > > Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter > yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog > cable whether I subscribe or not... > > Cheers, > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From landaeta1 at comcast.net Thu Sep 4 23:23:57 2003 From: landaeta1 at comcast.net (Douglas Landaeta) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:43 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's Alive Again, Jim!!!" In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904162942.020ce4f0@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: Glad you're up and running again! To those following - note the *right* approach IMHO: 1. - Don't screw around out there - flat bed it home (even the $300 is less than the damage that could have been caused by not having physical control of your own car - i.e. in someone else's shop) 2. - Ask the LIST - wisdom is there, but you must also... 3. - Document the situation and how you got there well. Each nuance of sound, every note of elevation, speed, recent mods, what your lovely passenger is wearing, jogs the memory of der-list. Seems that there are many BTDTs if we could *only* remember. 4. - Let common sense (and calm emotions) drive your efforts... Bob aptly noted: > Working on the basis of the fact that the relay will be less expensive than > the pump I'd like to check the pump independently of the relay. A jumper > across the load connectors of the FP relay socket will give the answer. 5. - Be at peace with your machine and apologize profusely to The Wife (tm), noting that it is far less expensive to repair your UrS than it would be to replace it with (just about) anything else. With each new incantation learned, a greater depth of faith will ensue. BTW, Bob - if it didn't go down this way - my apologies, but I felt I got something from your experience and maybe I'm not alone. ;-> Doug L 94 S4 - gotta get that nail outta the tire... but the pressure is just fine -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:33 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list Subject: [s-cars] Quoth Bones, "He's Alive Again, Jim!!!" Thanks for all the help, Y'all. The problem was indeed a dead fuel pump. New pump installed after much aggravation until the locking clips were found. Easy once the incantation is known. The car is now running again! I love it when a plan comes together. :-) _____ WMD are MIA Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From vfregeac at sympatico.ca Thu Sep 4 23:24:25 2003 From: vfregeac at sympatico.ca (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: <3F57DE84.6000107@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <000001c37354$d3948940$2667fea9@principal> Paul, As Igor, I didn't have to remove the sway bar from the body. I had the ball joint out fairly easily - I mean no torch, no hammer - but having the ball joint back in place was a hell of a job. I pop the ball joint out as it was part of the procedure for my previous Audi but if I understand well the last post from Igor and the axle should go out with the ball joint still in place. It's really the way to go. It should save you a lot of sweat and censured words as everything except the ball joint goes really straightforward. Besides, I would had a few comments between 7 and 8. When the CV joint is still on the axle, there is, from the outer side to the inner side, a circlip, the CV joint, a plastic spacer washer and a metal dished washer. When you push the axle with the axle bolt - step 7 - the two washers will either stick the CV joint or stay on the axle. Make sure they do not fall. First, they are easy to loose and, second, you have to put them back with the same orientation. The plastic spacer washer have its raised side toward the wheel, the metal dished washer toward the tranny. Also, if you want to keep your CV joint for a long time, you'd better remove the old grease. There is a fast way and a purist way. The fast way: press the tube of new grease firmly against the center of the CV joint and empty it. The new grease push the old one out of the CV joint. Sweep the old grease and that's it. As the CV joint hold a bit more than a tube, I use 1 1/2 tube per CV joint to make sure I've pushed out all the old grease. I'm a bit on the picky side from time to time. I always replace CV boots by pair so I buy two CV Boot Kits and a spare tube of CV grease. Now, the purist way: use brake cleaner to remove all the old grease before you apply the fast way. You'll need one can of brake cleaner per CV joint and you'd better make sure no balls fall on the ground. I've used the purist way once 12 years ago and used the fast way since - 6 boots. The oldest boot with the fast way have seen 80Kmiles without any problem - before it needed another boot - so it seems the purist way is really for purists. BTW, you'll find a very well described procedure - 28 steps! - at http://20v.org/drvshaft.htm. This procedure is for the 90Q20V/CQ20V but you can apply all this procedure to the urS except the steps 6, 7, 24, 25, 26 which deal with the ball joint you shouldn't have to remove in your case, according to Igor. HTH, Vincent. '96 //S6 Two front outer CV boots '90 90Q20V Four front outer CV boots -----Message d'origine----- De?: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Igor Kessel Envoy??: 4 sept. 2003 20:53 ??: Mike Platt Cc?: paul.heneghan@bbc.co.uk; Scar Objet?: Re: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped Mike Platt wrote: > Hi Paul, > > Just did my right front outer a month ago. By the > Genuine LoBro kit from a good foreign parts store. It > comes with bolt, bands, clip, boot, and grease. > Cost... about $20 > > Here is what you need to do( from what I remember): > 1) Loosen hub bolt with car on ground. > 2) Jack car up, remove tire. > 3) Disconnect sway bar from body (the hardest part of > job, I felt. > 4)Disconnect ball joint, I needed a pry pipe, PB > blaster, and a hammer. > 5)Remove bolt for CV joint. > 6) pull shaft out > 7) Put bolt back on joint and tighten to remove CV > joint from shaft > 8) Put on new boot, circlip and repack joint with > grease > 9) Slide everything back on shaft. Watch those > splines, or you'll be filing them down to get them to > realign (don't ask) > 10)Put joint back in hub > 11) put bolt back on, snug up > 12)Put ball joint back in. I used antiseize on it and > cleaned out mounting points. > 13)Reconnect sway bar to body. Real tough part. I used > a jack to put pressure on bar. Two man job for me: 1 > kid and I. > 14) Lower car and torque bolt to specs. I think it was > 150lbs plus 1/4 turn in the Bentley. > > Took me about 3 hrs. If there is a way around the bar > issue, Id like to know how. I couldn't get the ball > joint out until, I did that.....or you can pay a > garage about $150 to do it all. > > Good Luck. > Mike, I didn't do the ?? 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to the extreme locked position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --- Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release Date: 19/08/03 From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Fri Sep 5 00:42:25 2003 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question References: <000301c372f9$961dbba0$6400a8c0@newpc> Message-ID: <3F580621.99CCAD8E@verizon.net> My DSL works fine. Verizon. The house was fed a telephone line in 1957. Interior wiring is of various ages, and mostly by me. However, I use a Westel POTS splitter to separate out DSL before the phone lines propagate to the rest of the house phones. kirby TM wrote: > > IMHO, > DSL is not worth it- I've had _tons_ of problems with DSL, living > less than 5000' from the CO and with two different services- the quality > of the wire in your home is critical- if you have old wiring, you will > have lots of headaches. > > Taka > > -----Original Message----- > From: quattro-admin@audifans.com [mailto:quattro-admin@audifans.com] On > Behalf Of Robert Myers > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:32 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com; Quattro list > Subject: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Hi Y'all, > > Sorry for the lack of AC > > Verizon has finally gotten around to making DSL available in my area. I > have been using a cable modem which has been (usually) quite > satisfactory. Does anyone have experience with both systems and have a > recommendation as to which is more satisfactory? I realize that there > is a loading factor speed penalty when many users are on-line with the > cable which does not happen with DSL. So far, that has not been a > significant problem - yet. The DSL is about $5/month less expensive > than the cable modem but that is not a large factor in the decision. > > _____ > > Dick Cheney - the best, no, the only reason not to impeach the > shrub-in-chief. _____ > > Bob > ***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm > ***** > -- > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From calvinlc at earthlink.net Thu Sep 4 22:06:20 2003 From: calvinlc at earthlink.net (Calvin & Diana Craig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <34681.155.188.255.3.1062702416.squirrel@www.gcfn.net> Message-ID: Karl, I had a transmission problem in my '91 200 caused just by hitting a curb at 10 mph with the front wheel. The impact shoved the halfshaft into the transmission hard enough to mess up the internals. My insurance company just required the say-so from my mechanic to pay for the tranny rebuild. By the way, the tranny rebuild plus the lower control arm and a couple of other minor suspension parts ran up a bill of about $3500. I had to get Pearl paint matched on my '89 200 and it ran me $650 to replace the door skin and match the paint. It did come out with a perfect match. --Calvin -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Karl N. Matthias Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 1:07 PM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Hey listers-- I have a pearl white 1993 S4 which I bought in May and have been very much enjoying. I parked it on the street overnight about 2 weeks ago, around the corner from my fiancee's house in a nice suburb of Columbus, OH, and someone decided to steal a car and joy-ride it around her neighborhood crashing into anything which happened to be in the way. The police figure my car was hit at about 50mph in a side-swipe 3/4 impact that caved-in both driver's side doors and tore a huge hole in the rear door. The B-pillar looks a little bent, and the rear door is kind of bunched-up and wrapped around it. Every panel on that side was hit except the rear one, and the rocker is dented, too. The wheel was hit, and the mirror is toast. After all that, I tried to drive it and the transmission won't really go into 1st or 2nd gear, without a lot of effort. I am now dealing with the insurance @$$holes who insist that the transmission couldn't possibly have been damaged in this way by the impact. I called 9 shops in town (including both dealers--who wouldn't take it) before I found one who would actually open the box for the insurance company to examine. The insurance jerks are insisting that they see the damage and "determine whether or not it was caused by the accident" before they will pay to have it repaired. Like the guy who comes to look at it will know what could or could not be caused by an accident... And he's predisposed to thinking it's not from the accident. So the shop that's looking at it tells me "I just don't see how this problem could have been caused by an impact, it sounds like a bent shift fork from power shifting." I don't power shift and the car worked fine, without a single transmission problem before the impact. Anyone had to deal with this mess before? Any advice, evidence, etc is much appreciated! On a side note... The car was in pristine condition when I bought it, with 110,000 miles but more or less factory condition. The leather seats were a little scuffed, but everything else was flawless. The insurance company thinks all the damage (minus the transmission) can be repaired for $3450 which includes used doors since new ones are not available. I think they are high on something. Any help, advice, experience with the transmission issue is greatly appreciated. Thanks! Karl _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From danh at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 21:43:49 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question References: Message-ID: <018901c3735f$ebc094e0$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Hey seriously... I'd like to know more on this too. I currently have Comcast Cable internet (previously AT&T Broadband), but they have been pissing me off and jacked up the rates to $55.95 + tax per month!!!! I think DSL is way cheaper, but heard download times are typically slower. Biggest reason I haven't switched to DSL is because I need a hard phone line. I currently use my cell phone for everything. A hard phone line will cost me $25 a month which kinda negates the extra savings. I dunno. The cable company said they would add cable service for TV for $7 a month, but they give you like NO channles with that... you have to get what they call "expanded cable" to get any of the good channels (and, these are still commercial channels, mind you) and that will cost me $26 a month!!! I told them to f^&#* off, and so I am getting Dish Network for the same price. Later, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Douglas Landaeta" To: "Steve Marinello" ; ; "Brian Powell" Cc: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:58 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > interesting, sounds like some 'you get what you pay for' My cable service is > NOT cheap, with digital TV cable and internet, I'm at about $108. But in my > densly populated area, I have no significant outages (maybe 1-2 per year of > less than 4 hour duration) and the network upgrades of cable head-ends along > with proper load balancing may be why I see good service, not affected by > time of day/day of week. > > There's a place for cheap, but it's not internet for me, just too damn > addicted... > Doug L > 94 S4 > Cable internet since 1996 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Steve Marinello > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:33 PM > To: robert@s-cars.org; Brian Powell > Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > > > FWIW, my experience here north of New Orleans is the exact opposite. DSL at > a rock solid 1.4+ Mbps without problem or slowdowns. Charter.net cable at > nowhere near that speed and ALWAYS slower in the evenings and weekends. > Outages with way too many medium-size thunderstorms and every major tropical > storm-type system, and they may last for days. The last two, a few weeks > apart, lasted nearly 3 and 4 days. Totally unacceptable. I've recommended > to Bob to check the offered speed and guarantee. No comparison, in my > experience and those of my neighbors and professional colleagues in the > area. > > I only got cable because telocity/directvinternet shut down their DSL > service and Charter offered a "too cheap to pass up" deal with a > performance guarantee that seemed decent. Just not in the real world and > thunderstorm activity isn't covered. I only keep it 'cause in the cable > package it's costing me under $20/month. > > Steve > (BellSouth DSL now, but I've still got to get around to changing > subscription addresses...sometime) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Powell" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:42 AM > Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > > > > I had DSL for over a year. I've had cable for almost 3 years. No > > comparison: cable is far superior. > > > > I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky. > > > > The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS. Comcast guarantees > > (and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream. Where that mantra > > came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth > > that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot > > of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will > > still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections). > > Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and > > vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that. > > Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe > > 384kbps up). > > > > My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and > > AT&T had to switch us over). BTW, my home phone is over the cable as > > well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house. > > > > Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter > > yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog > > cable whether I subscribe or not... > > > > Cheers, > > Brian > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Fri Sep 5 00:51:54 2003 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re:[s-s-cars] 4444 interrogation sequence References: <41E8BFB8-DD90-11D7-9266-000502D6096C@comcast.net> <3F57DFB8.5010408@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <3F58085A.4B9954AA@verizon.net> Not to digress too far from the topic, but I have determined that at about 0.5 bar there is a boost air leak under the car. It sounds like driving through a shallow puddle -- presumably why I didn't notice it until it was sufficiently dry out. The likely cause is the plastic crossover tube; I will check this weekend. Each end attaches to a Samco hose, so I don't think it is a split in a hose. kirby Igor Kessel wrote: > > Tom Green wrote: > > > Igor is correct, of course. The 4444 code is usually good news. > > Although not definitive in diagnosing the problem, it at least > > eliminates several things, including several valves slamming into > > pistons with enough force to activate the antiknock sensor :-) So you > > really don't go back to square one. > > PK still has some cold war issues that Ronny and Gorby didn't resolve ?? > > I think it's IVAN ( a cossack, no doubt ) who runs the Lubianka auto > > diagnostic center and is known for finding the answer. > > Igor already knows the answer, from Motronic telepathy, I think :-) > > > > Tom, spoofing the spooks. > > That's the word, Tom, and the front and the rear plates on my car can > back up this claim. As well as the European white oval with the > appropriate country code on the boot lid :) > Alas, Rich's pic of the rear of my car did not make it to the S-site. > :( > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros > From igor at s-cars.org Fri Sep 5 01:10:54 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <018901c3735f$ebc094e0$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> References: <018901c3735f$ebc094e0$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <3F580CCE.8@s-cars.org> Daniel Hussey wrote: > Hey seriously... I'd like to know more on this too. > > I currently have Comcast Cable internet (previously AT&T Broadband), but > they have been pissing me off and jacked up the rates to $55.95 + tax per > month!!!! I think DSL is way cheaper, but heard download times are > typically slower. Biggest reason I haven't switched to DSL is because I > need a hard phone line. I currently use my cell phone for everything. A > hard phone line will cost me $25 a month which kinda negates the extra > savings. > > I dunno. The cable company said they would add cable service for TV for $7 > a month, but they give you like NO channles with that... you have to get > what they call "expanded cable" to get any of the good channels (and, these > are still commercial channels, mind you) and that will cost me $26 a > month!!! I told them to f^&#* off, and so I am getting Dish Network for the > same price. > > Later, > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Douglas Landaeta" > To: "Steve Marinello" ; ; "Brian > Powell" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:58 PM > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > > > >>interesting, sounds like some 'you get what you pay for' My cable service > > is > >>NOT cheap, with digital TV cable and internet, I'm at about $108. But in > > my > >>densly populated area, I have no significant outages (maybe 1-2 per year > > of > >>less than 4 hour duration) and the network upgrades of cable head-ends > > along > >>with proper load balancing may be why I see good service, not affected by >>time of day/day of week. >> >>There's a place for cheap, but it's not internet for me, just too damn >>addicted... >>Doug L >>94 S4 >>Cable internet since 1996 >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com >>[mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Steve Marinello >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 4:33 PM >>To: robert@s-cars.org; Brian Powell >>Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com >>Subject: Re: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question >> >> >>FWIW, my experience here north of New Orleans is the exact opposite. DSL > > at > >>a rock solid 1.4+ Mbps without problem or slowdowns. Charter.net cable at >>nowhere near that speed and ALWAYS slower in the evenings and weekends. >>Outages with way too many medium-size thunderstorms and every major > > tropical > >>storm-type system, and they may last for days. The last two, a few weeks >>apart, lasted nearly 3 and 4 days. Totally unacceptable. I've > > recommended > >>to Bob to check the offered speed and guarantee. No comparison, in my >>experience and those of my neighbors and professional colleagues in the >>area. >> >>I only got cable because telocity/directvinternet shut down their DSL >>service and Charter offered a "too cheap to pass up" deal with a >>performance guarantee that seemed decent. Just not in the real world and >>thunderstorm activity isn't covered. I only keep it 'cause in the cable >>package it's costing me under $20/month. >> >>Steve >>(BellSouth DSL now, but I've still got to get around to changing >>subscription addresses...sometime) >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Brian Powell" >>To: >>Cc: >>Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:42 AM >>Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question >> >> >> >>>I had DSL for over a year. I've had cable for almost 3 years. No >>>comparison: cable is far superior. >>> >>>I was spending more for DSL at the time for 800kbps and it was flaky. >>> >>>The "more users slow you down" is DSL marketing BS. Comcast guarantees >>>(and limits) 1.5Mbps on my cable for downstream. Where that mantra >>>came from was the early days of cable, you could get full bandwidth >>>that your modem supported (most support 4Mbps) unless there was a lot >>>of activity, and you would drop down to slower than 4Mbps (you will >>>still be an order of magnitude faster than many DSL connections). >>>Since the explosion in users, they don't let it grab bandwidth and >>>vary, they just set each node to 1.5Mbps and leave it at that. >>>Upstream is slower, I can't recall what at the moment (I believe >>>384kbps up). >>> >>>My cable has been down once in 3 years (that was when @Home folded and >>>AT&T had to switch us over). BTW, my home phone is over the cable as >>>well; I don't have any Bell connections active at my house. >>> >>>Since they installed my cable modem years ago, they didn't add a filter >>>yielding "free" analog tv; however, comcast charges me now for analog >>>cable whether I subscribe or not... >>> >>>Cheers, >>>Brian I had Comcast cable for a while. The service was good but $62/mo was a sheer lunacy. As soon as Verizon DSL came along at $30 I dropped the cable. So far so good. I've seen 1.5 mbits downstream with both. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From billzcat1 at hotmail.com Thu Sep 4 08:08:05 2003 From: billzcat1 at hotmail.com (Richard Hoffman) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs References: <78.4698f9b4.2c88933a@aol.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Speaking of fast and the furious, how did those diamond-plate aluminum floo= rboards produce so many sparks? Perhaps I need to get my aluminum magnet and learn a little more about alum= inum! ;) Tongue held sufficiently in cheek, Richard ----- Original Message ----- From: JShadzi@aol.com To: audi@humanspeakers.com ; billzcat1@hotmail.com Cc: quattro@audifans.com ; urq@audifans.com ; s-car-list@audifans.com ; b= a-group@audifans.com Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 6:08 AM Subject: Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs A dyno queen, a term I feel I may have coined, or heard somewhere a long = time ago, I forget, is a car that makes a lot of power on the dyno, but on = the street isn't driveable for sh*#t becuase of massive turbo lag, horrible= part throttle tuning and performance, etc. Its easy to get a car to post = big #'s on a dyno compared to making a car that is fast and can actually dr= ive. Its like a "garage queen", looks pretty sittin' there. Javad In a message dated 9/3/2003 10:52:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, audi@human= speakers.com writes: Now, what exactly is a "dyno queen"? Someone who hangs around car testing garages drinking creme de menthe? From knotnook at traverse.com Thu Sep 4 14:47:03 2003 From: knotnook at traverse.com (Kneale Brownson) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Fuel Pump Incantations 101 In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904123354.020cf050@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.2.20030904134253.00b772a0@traverse.com> I'm guessing it's the same arrangement as the 200q20v, which means the fuel pump is retained in a plastic basket that has a plastic liner surrounding the pump. The liner has to turn clockwise to release a node from a detent. There is a tool that gives you a good grip on the liner and lets you add a socket wrench (it's 1/2" drive) to turn with. Zalenda sells the tool for $25 or so. Some folks have found that a leather glove gives them sufficient purchase on the prickly plastic to be able to turn it, but I couldn't do that. However, I'm old and tubby, so maybe that's why the wrench worked best for me. BTW, why are you reaching through fuel? You have a huge opening there you could easily stick a hose in and siphon down the fuel level. At 12:41 PM 09/04/2003 -0400, Robert Myers wrote: >Patient: '95 urS6. >Operation: R&R fuel pump > >So far, toe top plate is off the tank, the various hoses and electrical >connections are removed, and the fuel gauge sender is removed and out of >the way. That part was fairly easy. Now comes the part requiring a >special incantation. Apparently it involves some sort of baying at the >moon during the winter solstice while dancing and beating a drum. Working >blind with only one hand which is mid-forearm deep in fuel, how do I get >the FP loose from whatever is holding it? It wiggles around down there >quite nicely and feels rather loose but it doesn't seem to want to lift out >of there. The purdy pitchers in Bentley don't seen to help a whole lot. > >Suggestions, please. > >_____ >WMD still MIA > >Bob >***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm >***** > From tquattroguy at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 11:51:29 2003 From: tquattroguy at yahoo.com (Todd Phenneger) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030904175129.39517.qmail@web12811.mail.yahoo.com> Yes, It was a Supra. Which regularly are in the 11's for the 1/4 and some in the 10's I believe. That Charger at the end with modern power would easily be Sub 10sec. But in the movie it was PORTRAYED as beign as His Father had left it. IF thats true were talking 70's tech, so it probably was in the 10's or 11's as well. Probably a pretty fair matchup. At least fair enough for the movie screen. l8r Todd --- Alan Pritchard wrote: > uurmm, wasnt that a toyota supra at the end??? > 3l straight six, a few around the world making 1000 bhp??? > > -----Original Message----- > From: Huw Powell [mailto:audi@humanspeakers.com] > Sent: 04 September 2003 06:27 > To: JShadzi@aol.com > Cc: quattro@audifans.com; urq@audifans.com; > s-car-list@audifans.com; > ba-group@audifans.com > Subject: Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs > > > > > Fast and the Furious? Ya, you know that scene when he's > drag racing, and > his > > floor boards fly off cause he's going so fast, and then his > programmable > EFI > > system starts blinking "WARNING, OVERLOAD" on the > screen..sigh...we need > to > > add that feature to 034efi, howz this for a sales pitch - > "ALL NEW > FEATURE: Will > > blow your frickin' floor boards off, then warn you about > it!!" > > and all I'm thinking is, 140 mph on the *street* and you're > gonna look > over at a laptop and slam it shut? > > Also, there is no way on earth that a little 4 cyl car is > gonna keep up > with that supercharged detroit iron later in the film. No > way... > > What it coulda used was some 5 cyl engine sounds :) Where > were you? > > -- > Huw Powell > > http://www.humanspeakers.com/audi > > http://www.humanthoughts.org/ __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From edshred2000 at yahoo.com Thu Sep 4 12:10:02 2003 From: edshred2000 at yahoo.com (ed armstrong) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: 80tq: Dyno Update, 291whp 306ft/lbs In-Reply-To: <051C364B.7A2C5D10.0016D39D@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030904181002.29973.qmail@web40905.mail.yahoo.com> Javad, Good work Javad, you keep on raising the bar. These are fantastic numbers, I bet once you get the new head and motor you'll easily pass the 400 crank hp levels. --- JShadzi@aol.com wrote: > Well, the tuning saga continues, read all about it > below. > > http://www.80tq.com/Dyno0903.html > > Javad > 80tq.com ===== -ed __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From a4 at thehinckleys.com Thu Sep 4 20:37:53 2003 From: a4 at thehinckleys.com (Scott Hinckley) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <000301c372f9$961dbba0$6400a8c0@newpc> References: <5.2.1.1.2.20030904092624.0207c5e8@mail.charter.net> <000301c372f9$961dbba0$6400a8c0@newpc> Message-ID: <6.0.0.20.2.20030904193046.02456180@mail.thehinckleys.com> [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] At 08:31 04-09-03, TM wrote: IMHO, DSL is not worth it- I've had _tons_ of problems with DSL, living less than 5000' from the CO and with two different services- the quality of the wire in your home is critical- if you have old wiring, you will have lots of headaches. I live just under 18,000ft from the CO and use iDSL (expensive). It is far more reliable than my cable connection, but not as fast. Where I used to live (downtown Seattle) I had 384k sDSL, also extremely reliable. I run my home email and a couple of friends websites off my machines, so I have to keep a reliable connection like DSL. The sDSL was through "The River" (still in existence, but no longer local to Seattle). The iDSL is through Speakeasy (national, but still HQ in Seattle) Given that it is cheaper than cable in your area I would say go for the DSL. BTW: My wiring is ancient, this is a 95 year old home in an old section of town. Scott From audi at thehinckleys.com Thu Sep 4 20:53:37 2003 From: audi at thehinckleys.com (Scott Hinckley) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question Message-ID: <6.0.0.20.2.20030904195330.02443960@wheresmymailserver.com> [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] At 08:31 04-09-03, TM wrote: IMHO, DSL is not worth it- I've had _tons_ of problems with DSL, living less than 5000' from the CO and with two different services- the quality of the wire in your home is critical- if you have old wiring, you will have lots of headaches. I live just under 18,000ft from the CO and use iDSL (expensive). It is far more reliable than my cable connection, but not as fast. Where I used to live (downtown Seattle) I had 384k sDSL, also extremely reliable. I run my home email and a couple of friends websites off my machines, so I have to keep a reliable connection like DSL. The sDSL was through "The River" (still in existence, but no longer local to Seattle). The iDSL is through Speakeasy (national, but still HQ in Seattle) Given that it is cheaper than cable in your area I would say go for the DSL. BTW: My wiring is ancient, this is a 95 year old home in an old section of town. Scott From bryan.sung at cgey.com Fri Sep 5 00:10:09 2003 From: bryan.sung at cgey.com (Sung, Bryan M.) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? Message-ID: The center display in the dashboard console of my 2000 S4 has gone haywire. The LED's in the center console display have begun to go on the fritz, and the areas where the radio station, outside temperature, and other computer information displays now have become unreadable due to missing lines. I took it in to my local dealership and they said that it wasn't a normal occurrence, but it would cost me over 700 dollars to fix it (essentially having to replace the whole dashboard display). Unfortunately it's now obviously out of warranty by almost a year, and I can't read any of the display (wish I had the current four year warranty that they now offer on Audi's). The lines seem to come in and out of view, sometimes lighting up, and other times being dead to the world. Anyone have any suggestions on where I can get a cheap replacement, or if there's anything electronically that I can do to fix it? Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. _________________________________________________________________ This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini/Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. _________________________________________________________________ From tvandervoort at msn.com Fri Sep 5 00:32:38 2003 From: tvandervoort at msn.com (Tom Vandervoort) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] FW: e//S2's about to ride again! In-Reply-To: <15f.253946e4.2c893e45@aol.com> Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hap: Thanks for the heads up: I'll be bringing Hawaiian shirts. If it ain't rainin, we'll wear 'em to meet the Happersized S4 to run with at the Nationals! Dean's gonna love it. BTW, back in the Eighties when we had the condo in Winter Park, my 5000T and 200tq used to everboost past Everboost every winter for eight years. Tom -----Original Message----- From: CaptMagu@aol.com [mailto:CaptMagu@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 8:18 PM To: tvandervoort@msn.com; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] FW: e//S2's about to ride again! Tom Brian, we'll do it my way or else, Billotti has talked me into bringing out the Happersized S4 to California in November. I'll be looking forward to meeting you there. Hap, just feelin the Aloha in Everboost, Maguire -- From DGraber460 at aol.com Fri Sep 5 01:58:34 2003 From: DGraber460 at aol.com (DGraber460@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? Message-ID: <1cb.106a2044.2c8971fa@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My 95 S6 has the same issue. When it is hot outside it gets worse. Releasing any tension on the wheel has no effect on it. I tried to lubricate the key slot with a penetrating lube that I have good experience with, and nothing changed. That led me to believe that it is the mechanical part (wheel lock) of the switch and not the tumblers. I think there are some recent posts about this as a common "S car" problem. I didn't have time to read them all, and therefore can't relate what ended up being the consensus for a cure. Anyone else? Dennis Denver "Good judgment is a result of experience, which is often the result of poor judgment" From robert at s-cars.org Fri Sep 5 06:42:47 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030905053908.02090918@pop.registeredsite.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Bryan, This could be nothing more than a symptom of dirty internal contacts inside the Instrument Cluster (IC). If so, the fix is to remove the IC, open it up (including the hinged back side cover, clean the contacts, perhaps apply a drop or two of contact enhancer, close it up, and put it back in the car. Perhaps a 30 minute kitchen table job. BTDT with an '89 200tq While you are in there this would be an excellent time to upgrade the dim 1.1 watt instrument light bulbs with 2 watt bulbs from rod@thepartsconnection.com. It requires about 10 of them for about $1.25 each and will make a world of difference in night time instrument visibility. At 11:10 PM 9/4/2003, Sung, Bryan M. wrote: >The center display in the dashboard console of my 2000 S4 has gone >haywire. The LED's in the center console display have begun to go on >the fritz, and the areas where the radio station, outside temperature, >and other computer information displays now have become unreadable due >to missing lines. I took it in to my local dealership and they said >that it wasn't a normal occurrence, but it would cost me over 700 >dollars to fix it (essentially having to replace the whole dashboard >display). Unfortunately it's now obviously out of warranty by almost a >year, and I can't read any of the display (wish I had the current four >year warranty that they now offer on Audi's). The lines seem to come in >and out of view, sometimes lighting up, and other times being dead to >the world. Anyone have any suggestions on where I can get a cheap >replacement, or if there's anything electronically that I can do to fix >it? Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. > >_________________________________________________________________ >This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential >and is the property of the Cap Gemini/Ernst & Young Group. It is intended >only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended >recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, >disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you >receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and >delete all copies of this message. >_________________________________________________________________ >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >--- >Incoming mail ain't got no nasty bugs. :-) >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 _____ The Shrub is positive about the WMDs. Rumsfeld still has the receipts. Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** -- From pizzoman at yahoo.com Fri Sep 5 05:26:32 2003 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: <3F57DE84.6000107@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <20030905112632.56389.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> And as we all know, Igor prefers to turn his wheel to the left...at least with regards to the proletariat. --- Igor Kessel wrote: > > Mike, > I didn't do the §§ 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to > the extreme locked > position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== ------------------------------------- The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true. ------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From strangconst at rogers.com Fri Sep 5 09:07:07 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? References: Message-ID: <002b01c373a6$3a9cb620$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> In the UrS cars this has been a problem as well. Seems the dash needs to be taken apart and the contacts to the unit cleaned. Mine (Cad 93') had some problems when it was cold. The display would digigarble (like satellite TV does in a rain storm) until the car was warm. I had to remove the dash for a boost gauge project, and simply unplugging and re plugging in the unit cleared the issue. Don't spend anything let alone $700 before you check the contacts and clean them. Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sung, Bryan M." To: Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 11:10 PM Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? The center display in the dashboard console of my 2000 S4 has gone haywire. The LED's in the center console display have begun to go on the fritz, and the areas where the radio station, outside temperature, and other computer information displays now have become unreadable due to missing lines. I took it in to my local dealership and they said that it wasn't a normal occurrence, but it would cost me over 700 dollars to fix it (essentially having to replace the whole dashboard display). Unfortunately it's now obviously out of warranty by almost a year, and I can't read any of the display (wish I had the current four year warranty that they now offer on Audi's). The lines seem to come in and out of view, sometimes lighting up, and other times being dead to the world. Anyone have any suggestions on where I can get a cheap replacement, or if there's anything electronically that I can do to fix it? Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. _________________________________________________________________ This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini/Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. If you receive this message in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies of this message. _________________________________________________________________ _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From lee at wheelman.com Fri Sep 5 09:16:49 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <1ed.f490da0.2c89414d@aol.com> Message-ID: Hap says: > I guess you could say I've got a Happersized internet connection. Now why does that not surprise me at all? :) Lee From lee at wheelman.com Fri Sep 5 09:16:48 2003 From: lee at wheelman.com (Lee Levitt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Calvin writes: > I had to get Pearl paint matched on my '89 200 and it ran me $650 > to replace the door skin and match the paint. It did come out with a perfect match. On my wife's pearl A6, a front fender replacement plus painting the two right side doors ran $1500. I don't think I'd want to paint a single door on a pearl car. Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From mplatt911 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 5 06:24:24 2003 From: mplatt911 at yahoo.com (Mike Platt) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: <000001c37354$d3948940$2667fea9@principal> Message-ID: <20030905122424.6322.qmail@web12503.mail.yahoo.com> You see, I have once again found the best way to make a simple job most difficult!!! I'll keep these notes for the other side. Thanks!! Mike --- Vincent_Frégeac wrote: > Paul, > > As Igor, I didn't have to remove the sway bar from > the body. I had the > ball joint out fairly easily - I mean no torch, no > hammer - but having > the ball joint back in place was a hell of a job. I > pop the ball joint > out as it was part of the procedure for my previous > Audi but if I > understand well the last post from Igor and the axle > should go out with > the ball joint still in place. It's really the way > to go. It should save > you a lot of sweat and censured words as everything > except the ball > joint goes really straightforward. > > Besides, I would had a few comments between 7 and 8. > When the CV joint > is still on the axle, there is, from the outer side > to the inner side, a > circlip, the CV joint, a plastic spacer washer and a > metal dished > washer. When you push the axle with the axle bolt - > step 7 - the two > washers will either stick the CV joint or stay on > the axle. Make sure > they do not fall. First, they are easy to loose and, > second, you have to > put them back with the same orientation. The plastic > spacer washer have > its raised side toward the wheel, the metal dished > washer toward the > tranny. > > Also, if you want to keep your CV joint for a long > time, you'd better > remove the old grease. There is a fast way and a > purist way. The fast > way: press the tube of new grease firmly against the > center of the CV > joint and empty it. The new grease push the old one > out of the CV joint. > Sweep the old grease and that's it. As the CV joint > hold a bit more than > a tube, I use 1 1/2 tube per CV joint to make sure > I've pushed out all > the old grease. I'm a bit on the picky side from > time to time. I always > replace CV boots by pair so I buy two CV Boot Kits > and a spare tube of > CV grease. Now, the purist way: use brake cleaner to > remove all the old > grease before you apply the fast way. You'll need > one can of brake > cleaner per CV joint and you'd better make sure no > balls fall on the > ground. I've used the purist way once 12 years ago > and used the fast way > since - 6 boots. The oldest boot with the fast way > have seen 80Kmiles > without any problem - before it needed another boot > - so it seems the > purist way is really for purists. > > BTW, you'll find a very well described procedure - > 28 steps! - at > http://20v.org/drvshaft.htm. This procedure is for > the 90Q20V/CQ20V but > you can apply all this procedure to the urS except > the steps 6, 7, 24, > 25, 26 which deal with the ball joint you shouldn't > have to remove in > your case, according to Igor. > > HTH, > > > > Vincent. > '96 //S6 Two front outer CV boots > '90 90Q20V Four front outer CV boots > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de > Igor Kessel > Envoyé : 4 sept. 2003 20:53 > À : Mike Platt > Cc : paul.heneghan@bbc.co.uk; Scar > Objet : Re: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped > > Mike Platt wrote: > > > Hi Paul, > > > > Just did my right front outer a month ago. By the > > Genuine LoBro kit from a good foreign parts store. > It > > comes with bolt, bands, clip, boot, and grease. > > Cost... about $20 > > > > Here is what you need to do( from what I > remember): > > 1) Loosen hub bolt with car on ground. > > 2) Jack car up, remove tire. > > 3) Disconnect sway bar from body (the hardest part > of > > job, I felt. > > 4)Disconnect ball joint, I needed a pry pipe, PB > > blaster, and a hammer. > > 5)Remove bolt for CV joint. > > 6) pull shaft out > > 7) Put bolt back on joint and tighten to remove CV > > joint from shaft > > 8) Put on new boot, circlip and repack joint with > > grease > > 9) Slide everything back on shaft. Watch those > > splines, or you'll be filing them down to get them > to > > realign (don't ask) > > 10)Put joint back in hub > > 11) put bolt back on, snug up > > 12)Put ball joint back in. I used antiseize on it > and > > cleaned out mounting points. > > 13)Reconnect sway bar to body. Real tough part. I > used > > a jack to put pressure on bar. Two man job for me: > 1 > > kid and I. > > 14) Lower car and torque bolt to specs. I think it > was > > 150lbs plus 1/4 turn in the Bentley. > > > > Took me about 3 hrs. If there is a way around the > bar > > issue, Id like to know how. I couldn't get the > ball > > joint out until, I did that.....or you can pay a > > garage about $150 to do it all. > > > > Good Luck. > > > > Mike, > I didn't do the §§ 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to > the extreme locked > position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. > > -- > Igor Kessel > two turbo quattros > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release > Date: 19/08/03 > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system > (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.512 / Virus Database: 309 - Release > Date: 19/08/03 > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From WQQ2PXK at ups.com Fri Sep 5 10:04:27 2003 From: WQQ2PXK at ups.com (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: 4444 interrogation sequence... Message-ID: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F6035FB2BA@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Igor accented: <<>> Heh heh. I-man, (sounds like Ivan?)... no worries... Vincentboy's got you beat in the "sounds like dastardly secretagentmanspy" department... especially after all them Belgians we enjoyed. I was dying all night listening to him, hilarious... -P not 007 either K. From wenoland at pacbell.net Fri Sep 5 06:59:24 2003 From: wenoland at pacbell.net (William Noland) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? In-Reply-To: <20030904181443.28955.75702.Mailman@www.audifans.com> References: <20030904181443.28955.75702.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <3F5888AC.7030100@pacbell.net> Get a tube of graphite powder (lock lubricant) from your local hardware. The lock on my 94 is fussy from time to time and the graphite will keep it lubed for a while. WD-40 and oils will tend to gum up over time. Bill N >My 93 S4 has an ignition that takes some force to turn the key. Using >the stock keys with the IR fob, you can get enough leverage, but I don't >want that huge key in my pocket, so I went and had a key cut. Its >difficult to turn this key in the ignition. So difficult in fact that >the newly cut key has been twisted by the force required. The stock >keys must be made of stronger stuff as there is no sign of them being >twisted. > >I was considering squirting some WD-40 into the ignition. Would it >help? Or would it do damage? > > > > From WQQ2PXK at ups.com Fri Sep 5 10:00:34 2003 From: WQQ2PXK at ups.com (Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK)) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: Cutoff at 6k rpm Message-ID: <5C1296A3D8CC9C4EB1EB9DDC08D746F6035FB2A2@njrarsvr039a.us.ups.com> Igor postulated, added 2 and 2, came up with 3: <<>> Ah, it would appear so. Didn't realize you were the birthing father of such item. I enjoy the chrome trim effect, like on my TR3, heh heh. So, if you'll call that cannibalized, well... Thanks for the part, I guess, in an indirect not direct sorta way! 8-) -P From skippertgore at hotmail.com Fri Sep 5 08:21:12 2003 From: skippertgore at hotmail.com (Matt Russell) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <20030905122247.8130.47249.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: Karl- I offer to you my condolences as well... My Pearl 92 was hit almost exactly the same as yours, except damage was to the passenger side. Front fender was only nicked, and rear quarter also only scratched. RH passenger door wiped right out, drivers side scratched and thus saveable. My ins co haggled with the dealer, had to accept a used door, and finally got the car fixed for just under 5,000. The whole pass side of the car was sprayed, and was not blended - some audiot dealer body tech dude didn't paint match by blending - the rest of the car was probably just taped off. The car looks good, but no matter how many times I've waxed/cleansed/polished the old paint, it just won't shine up quite as nice as the new - which I only wax. Probably never will in my eyes. I regret not haggling more for a complete respray, and I've relocated since then which doesn't allow me to pursue this any further. BTW- this collision was also not my fault, I was t-boned in a parking garage in NYC while the attendant was moving my car to a spot. The b-pillar was moved by the impact, and after many hours on the frame machine, the job is so good that I DON'T get any rattles or leaks, and the doors shut as they should. Good luck, and hope some of this helps. Next time, I'd prefer to have it totaled and I'll start over again. -Matt, co 92 s4 On 9/5/03 8:22 AM, "s-car-list-request@audifans.com > Message: 13 > Reply-To: > From: "Lee Levitt" > To: "Calvin & Diana Craig" , > , > Subject: RE: [s-cars] S4 Smashed > Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:16:48 -0400 > > Calvin writes: >> I had to get Pearl paint matched on my '89 200 and it ran me $650 >> to replace the door skin and match the paint. It did come out with a > perfect match. > > On my wife's pearl A6, a front fender replacement plus painting the two > right side doors ran $1500. I don't think I'd want to paint a single door on > a pearl car. > > Lee > '95.5 S6 avant > '96 A6 quattro avant From iduff at rcn.com Fri Sep 5 10:38:46 2003 From: iduff at rcn.com (Ian Duff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? In-Reply-To: <3F5888AC.7030100@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <004601c373b3$09dca060$6601a8c0@ian> Another option for dry lube is McLube SailKote www.mclube.com/frames/sailkote/index.html, used on boats where wet stuff like WD-40 gums up the works. It sprays on wet, then the carrier evaporates, leaving a dry film. -Ian Duff. -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of William Noland Sent: Friday, 05 September, 2003 8:59 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Cc: tr0910@softhome.net Subject: [s-cars] Re: Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? Get a tube of graphite powder (lock lubricant) from your local hardware. The lock on my 94 is fussy from time to time and the graphite will keep it lubed for a while. WD-40 and oils will tend to gum up over time. Bill N >My 93 S4 has an ignition that takes some force to turn the key. Using >the stock keys with the IR fob, you can get enough leverage, but I >don't want that huge key in my pocket, so I went and had a key cut. >Its difficult to turn this key in the ignition. So difficult in fact >that the newly cut key has been twisted by the force required. The >stock keys must be made of stronger stuff as there is no sign of them >being twisted. > >I was considering squirting some WD-40 into the ignition. Would it >help? Or would it do damage? > > > > _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bryan.sung at cgey.com Fri Sep 5 11:04:42 2003 From: bryan.sung at cgey.com (Sung, Bryan M.) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] That being said, does anyone have any documentation on how to remove the dashboard in order to do a quick cleaning? I will also do a search on the archive, but I was wondering if anyone had any quick information on the best way to remove the display. Thanks for the input.. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Myers [mailto:robert@s-cars.org] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:43 AM To: Sung, Bryan M.; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? Bryan, This could be nothing more than a symptom of dirty internal contacts inside the Instrument Cluster (IC). If so, the fix is to remove the IC, open it up (including the hinged back side cover, clean the contacts, perhaps apply a drop or two of contact enhancer, close it up, and put it back in the car. Perhaps a 30 minute kitchen table job. BTDT with an '89 200tq While you are in there this would be an excellent time to upgrade the dim 1.1 watt instrument light bulbs with 2 watt bulbs from rod@thepartsconnection.com. It requires about 10 of them for about $1.25 each and will make a world of difference in night time instrument visibility. At 11:10 PM 9/4/2003, Sung, Bryan M. wrote: The center display in the dashboard console of my 2000 S4 has gone haywire. The LED's in the center console display have begun to go on the fritz, and the areas where the radio station, outside temperature, and other computer information displays now have become unreadable due to missing lines. I took it in to my local dealership and they said that it wasn't a normal occurrence, but it would cost me over 700 dollars to fix it (essentially having to replace the whole dashboard display). Unfortunately it's now obviously out of warranty by almost a year, and I can't read any of the display (wish I had the current four year warranty that they now offer on Audi's). The lines seem to come in and out of view, sometimes lighting up, and other times being dead to the world. Anyone have any suggestions on where I can get a cheap replacement, or if there's anything electronically that I can do to fix it? Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. _________________________________________________________________ This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini/Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. 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Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From steve at thepowers.net Fri Sep 5 09:56:55 2003 From: steve at thepowers.net (steve powers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Two GT2 shots In-Reply-To: <20030905003126.12834.qmail@web21204.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101c373c6$54757ad0$0a00a8c0@SonyTower> it would seem that even the GT2 is slower than Yahoo! Steve > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Neil Swanson > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:31 PM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Two GT2 shots > > > -- > Hey > > Here's one shot at rest and another as we remember it, > taking off like a bottle rocket. > > Neil > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design > software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com > -- > Content-Description: GT2 at rest.jpg > > [ GT2 at rest.jpg of type image/jpeg deleted ] > -- > Content-Description: GT2 at speed.jpg > > [ GT2 at speed.jpg of type image/jpeg deleted ] > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/> s-car-list > From trgreen at comcast.net Fri Sep 5 15:37:42 2003 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Tom Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: <20030905160050.20954.62282.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <08DFBD8C-DFD0-11D7-A982-000502D6096C@comcast.net> > More condolences for Karl : > Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 07:21:12 -0400 > Subject: RE: [s-cars] S4 Smashed > From: Matt Russell > To: , > > Karl- I offer to you my condolences as well... >> Calvin writes: >>> I had to get Pearl paint matched on my '89 200 and it ran me $650 >>> to replace the door skin and match the paint. It did come out with a >> perfect match. Lee sez: >> >> On my wife's pearl A6, a front fender replacement plus painting the >> two >> right side doors ran $1500. I don't think I'd want to paint a single >> door on >> a pearl car. I can only add that this process doesn't seem to be progressing in a normal manner. I recommend as previously advised that you get your own estimates or insure that the shop you pick to repair the car accepts the estimate from the insurance company to perform the repairs you want. The b-pillar damage concerns me. Some states will not recertify a car with a structural component like the b-pillar damaged, since it affects the integrity of the safety box around the occupants. If they do have an approved repair procedure, you may still be left with a blemished title. I hope things work out. Tom '95 S6 From Douglas.Fifield at TENNANTCO.com Fri Sep 5 14:43:48 2003 From: Douglas.Fifield at TENNANTCO.com (Fifield, Douglas) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Samco GP Hose Clamps Message-ID: <2FC823CB6A63D2119C440008C7B1CC110788552C@gvnts12.tennantco.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hosers, Those who went in on the latest Samco GP, does anyone have a list of the clamps that are needed? I plan on sourcing them separately. TIA, Douglas in MN 95.5 //S6Avant - mine 98 Mercury Mountaineer - her work sled 98 Toyota RAV4 - for sale 73 BMW R60/5 - lonely in the garage From trgreen at comcast.net Fri Sep 5 15:53:57 2003 From: trgreen at comcast.net (Tom Green) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] side view mirrors In-Reply-To: <20030905023149.649.92206.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <4E350059-DFD2-11D7-A982-000502D6096C@comcast.net> > Original Message: > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Vincent_Fr=E9geac?= > To: "'Rokas Reipa'" , > Subject: RE : [s-cars] side view mirrors > Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2003 21:20:58 -0400 > > As suggested by other listers, you can replace the glass only. If you > choose this option, pull gently on the original glass as the plastic > clips tend to become brittle over time. Also, put crazy glue on the > side > of the new glasses to seal them so they won't rust again. > > You can also find acrylic mirors you can glue on the original glass. > Cheap, easy and no risk. Downside, the defrost won't be as efficient > and > I don't know about long term issues. Blaufergnungen had them precut for > the Audi 90 so they may have them for the urS6 too. If not, glass shop > usually carry them in large sheets and can custom cut it for you. > Vincent. > > -----Message d'origine----- > De=A0: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] De la part de Rokas Reipa > Envoy=E9=A0: 3 sept. 2003 22:42 > =C0=A0: s-car-list@audifans.com > Objet=A0: [s-cars] side view mirrors > > Hey everyone. On my 95.5 S6, both of the side view mirrors are about > half-delaminated. On both of them, part of the mirror is a big ugly > brown > splotch. Consequently, they will not pass state inspection. What can I > do in > this case? Do I have to purchase complete mirror assemblies or will a > cheaper solution suffice? Thanks, > > Rokas > 95.5 Tornado Red UrS6 I did the Igor update with the 4B0 857 535 B replacement glass with the concave strip for the drivers side. I am not sure if they are available in US. This is a great upgrade that helps with the blind spot. I did not do the passenger side since it is all convex, and both mirrors were fine. I have the OEM driver-side mirror I removed in perfect operating condition. I can see a few hairline scratches from cleaning that were not visible when installed, but no delamination. $30 shipped 2day express. 4A1 851 535 Tom '95 S6 From igor at s-cars.org Thu Sep 4 21:50:00 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3F57DDB8.4040002@s-cars.org> Paul Heneghan wrote: > Hello chaps, > > My annual inspection has just shown that I've got a split CV joint boot > (front left outer). I presume the replacement method is the same as on > the old 100 (5000 in the US). I can't remember how much of the > suspension I've got to dismantle - do I need to disconnect the anti-roll > bar (sway bar in the US) and the tie rod and the lower control arm? I > remember years ago on a VW Passat being able to remove the drive shaft > without disconecting any of those things. > > Should I replace the hub nut (or is it a bolt these day?). > > I'd be grateful for any BTDTs. > > Paul > > BBCi at http://www.bbc.co.uk/ Paul, no need to remove any suspension parts. The new boot kit comes with the new bolt, boot, two clamps and a squeesable bottle of grease. You'll need to procure the OETIKER CLAMP PLIERS, KD 424 or equivalent. Keep in mind that whereas the OEM bolt is 27mm hex, the replacement bolt will be the 17mm Allen, so you can use your gearbox Allen socket to tighten it up. Oh, and you'll need the Triple Square 12-pointer bit too. -- Igor Kessel two turbo quattros From calvinlc at earthlink.net Fri Sep 5 21:22:11 2003 From: calvinlc at earthlink.net (Calvin & Diana Craig) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I would challenge anybody to pick out the door that was repaired. If you have a paint guy who knows what he's doing it really can work. --Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:17 AM To: Calvin & Diana Craig; karl@matthias.org; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Calvin writes: > I had to get Pearl paint matched on my '89 200 and it ran me $650 > to replace the door skin and match the paint. It did come out with a perfect match. On my wife's pearl A6, a front fender replacement plus painting the two right side doors ran $1500. I don't think I'd want to paint a single door on a pearl car. Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant From Twobro12 at aol.com Sat Sep 6 01:54:55 2003 From: Twobro12 at aol.com (Twobro12@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel cutoff at WOT 4-5k rpm Message-ID: <66AFE447.20ADD95C.0086FFD8@aol.com> I am experiencing fuel cutoff while doing WOT, usually only at 4000 or 5000 rpm (second or third gear). My software is stock, and Im running 93 octane. 100,000 miles. Ill be pulling and i will suddenly lose all power. any explanations? very unusual. fuel pressure regulator? thanks! Mike 94 S4 From danh at s-cars.org Fri Sep 5 23:23:20 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Re: Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? References: <004601c373b3$09dca060$6601a8c0@ian> Message-ID: <03ca01c37436$fc76b580$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Hey yea, Sail-Kote is some amazing stuff. Can get it at your local West Marine (if you have one)... Boats, especially the sailing type are the norm in Seattle, so it's readily available, but Ian is right. This is some impressive stuff and doesn't leave any greasy residue. it's a dry lubricant initially designed for pulleys on sailboats. I second this as a usefull addition to anyone's garage. Perfect for this sort of solution. Later, Dan '95 S6 Avant (gone but not forgotten) '89 944 S2 (new toy) Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Duff" To: "'William Noland'" ; Cc: Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:38 AM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Re: Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? > Another option for dry lube is McLube SailKote > www.mclube.com/frames/sailkote/index.html, used on boats where wet stuff > like WD-40 gums up the works. It sprays on wet, then the carrier evaporates, > leaving a dry film. > -Ian Duff. > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] > On Behalf Of William Noland > Sent: Friday, 05 September, 2003 8:59 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Cc: tr0910@softhome.net > Subject: [s-cars] Re: Twisted Key - Ignition sticky?? > > > Get a tube of graphite powder (lock lubricant) from your local hardware. The > lock on my 94 is fussy from time to time and the graphite will keep it lubed > for a while. WD-40 and oils will tend to gum up over time. > > Bill N > > >My 93 S4 has an ignition that takes some force to turn the key. Using > >the stock keys with the IR fob, you can get enough leverage, but I > >don't want that huge key in my pocket, so I went and had a key cut. > >Its difficult to turn this key in the ignition. So difficult in fact > >that the newly cut key has been twisted by the force required. The > >stock keys must be made of stronger stuff as there is no sign of them > >being twisted. > > > >I was considering squirting some WD-40 into the ignition. Would it > >help? Or would it do damage? > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From abiglizard at worldnet.att.net Sat Sep 6 10:01:06 2003 From: abiglizard at worldnet.att.net (Kenneth Hayes) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] disabling steerting boost and tramlining (revisited) In-Reply-To: <0613622F-DEF4-11D7-AAA6-000393682382@atomicham.com> Message-ID: Gents, I have decided to try the car w/o the steering boost and I can't remember if it's pulling a relay or unplugging the wire that is more recommended. Could someone point me to which relay or wire? I've just recently had my car aligned and it's dead nuts on (by the numbers) and the tramlining isn't as bad as it was, however it's still worse than any other car I own. The alignment specialist said it's my wheels since my off set is 35 (SSR - Integral 2 - 8.0x18). He even put on a stock set of wheels off a 200tq and the ride was noticeably better. I know a lot of guys are running offsets that are further out than mine. Does that really make for worse tramlining? So I was thinking about a very slight tweak. I remember on the subject of tramlining that a few listers had turned the nut on the tie-rod (right side IIRC) 1/12 or 1/6 of a turn to give a slight toe in. My question is with a slight toe in I'd expect poor tire wear, so for those guys who did that adjustment what were the results both short term and long term as far as handling and tire wear. thanks, Ken 97s6 --- Near as I can figure, Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.514 / Virus Database: 312 - Release Date: 8/28/2003 From igor at s-cars.org Sat Sep 6 12:33:08 2003 From: igor at s-cars.org (Igor Kessel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: <20030905112632.56389.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20030905112632.56389.qmail@web20808.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <3F59FE34.2030507@s-cars.org> Joseph Pizzimenti wrote: > And as we all know, Igor prefers to turn his wheel to > the left...at least with regards to the proletariat. > > > --- Igor Kessel wrote: > >>Mike, >>I didn't do the ?? 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to >>the extreme locked >>position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. >> >>-- >>Igor Kessel >>two turbo quattros >> Who would blame me for suddenly turning left under the rule of the current administration, Joe? Oh my, am I walking on the thin ice here... :) -- Comrade Igor From iduff at rcn.com Sat Sep 6 13:18:52 2003 From: iduff at rcn.com (Ian Duff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC: Igor only turns left In-Reply-To: <3F59FE34.2030507@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <000c01c37492$90fb9580$6601a8c0@ian> With the current shrub-in-chief, the only direction one can turn is left. Even an abrupt left turn merely brings one closer to center. Sounds like the alignment is off, must be the result of hitting a major pothole, which one is left to the imagination of the reader. Let's hope for a more intelligent, moderate egomaniac (of either stripe) for our next Prez... -Senator Joe McCarthy. -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Igor Kessel Sent: Saturday, 06 September, 2003 11:33 AM To: Joseph Pizzimenti Cc: Scar Subject: Re: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped Joseph Pizzimenti wrote: > And as we all know, Igor prefers to turn his wheel to > the left...at least with regards to the proletariat. > > > --- Igor Kessel wrote: > >>Mike, >>I didn't do the ?? 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to >>the extreme locked >>position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. >> >>-- >>Igor Kessel >>two turbo quattros >> Who would blame me for suddenly turning left under the rule of the current administration, Joe? Oh my, am I walking on the thin ice here... :) -- Comrade Igor _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From paul at heneghan.co.uk Sat Sep 6 18:47:08 2003 From: paul at heneghan.co.uk (Paul Heneghan) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot now installed Message-ID: I've just finished installing the boot kit. Many thanks to the many listers who gave advice. As Igor (and others) said, you can get away without removing suspension parts, BUT it's a tight fit. There's virtually no room to move the inner end out of the way to allow the outer splined bit to withdraw from the hub. Reassembly is even more difficult - it took all I'd got to get the outer end back into the hub - I've got a throbbing thumb to prove it! 200Nm + 1/4 turn is quite a lot of torque for the hub nut. I got there in the end, but I'm sure it's a lot tighter than I used to do on my old 80q (4kq in the US). A thunderstorm is just about to start, so I think I'll leave the other side for a week or two - the boot is still intact. Interestingly, the Haynes manual (which states specifically that it doesn't cover turbo or quattro models) states that you don't need to remove suspension items to do the LHS, but you do need to remove them to do the RHS. Anyone care to comment? Is this a UK model problem? Thanks again for the hints Paul p.s. Igor, the hub nut supplied in the (German) repair kit was 27mm, not an Allen bolt. From Twobro12 at aol.com Sat Sep 6 15:22:31 2003 From: Twobro12 at aol.com (Twobro12@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] fuel cutoff at WOT 4-5k rpm Message-ID: <330F881B.720712A0.0086FFD8@aol.com> ok that sounds real good. i was just reading the SJM website, and they had my problem described perfectly. according to the author (scott?) im suffering from a faulty MAF sensor, or faulty MAF connection. I think ill try playing around with this. resetting the ECU sounds like a real good idea too. From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Sat Sep 6 15:58:34 2003 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] NAC: Igor only turns left References: <000c01c37492$90fb9580$6601a8c0@ian> Message-ID: <3F5A2E59.443B31AC@verizon.net> Your historical perspective is warped. Harry Truman, for example, would consider the present administration to be far to the left of him. No one before Carter administration would have dared to propose the Incombent Reelection Act, much less signed the bill as Bush Jr did. I suggest you examine the reign of the Democrat Woodrow Wilson, who locked up anyone who criticized his position on WW I after the US entered it. Kirby, who is not unaware that it was the Communists who redefined right wing by assigning the term to the National Socialists (long before 1984) with whom they had conspired to attack Poland and start WW II. Ian Duff wrote: > > > With the current shrub-in-chief, the only direction one can turn is left. > Even an abrupt left turn merely brings one closer to center. Sounds like the > alignment is off, must be the result of hitting a major pothole, which one > is left to the imagination of the reader. Let's hope for a more intelligent, > moderate egomaniac (of either stripe) for our next Prez... > > -Senator Joe McCarthy. > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] > On Behalf Of Igor Kessel > Sent: Saturday, 06 September, 2003 11:33 AM > To: Joseph Pizzimenti > Cc: Scar > Subject: Re: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped > > Joseph Pizzimenti wrote: > > And as we all know, Igor prefers to turn his wheel to > > the left...at least with regards to the proletariat. > > > > > > --- Igor Kessel wrote: > > > >>Mike, > >>I didn't do the ?? 3 and 4. If you turn the wheel to > >>the extreme locked > >>position the axle leaves the hub rather cheerfully. > >> > >>-- > >>Igor Kessel > >>two turbo quattros > >> > > Who would blame me for suddenly turning left under the rule of the current > administration, Joe? > > Oh my, am I walking on the thin ice here... > :) > > -- > Comrade Igor > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From jeffsevel at hotmail.com Sat Sep 6 20:20:38 2003 From: jeffsevel at hotmail.com (Jeff Sevel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ Message-ID: Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact is 2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis are a good alternative. THanks, Jeff 95.5 S6 Seattle WA _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From pizzoman at yahoo.com Sat Sep 6 13:21:08 2003 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: Subject: [s-cars] CV joint boot ripped In-Reply-To: <3F59FE34.2030507@s-cars.org> Message-ID: <20030906192108.73550.qmail@web20810.mail.yahoo.com> Thin ice, indeed, Comrade Kessel. So, how do I close this Pandora's box, anyway? Joe "let's keep the politics to other lists" Pizzo --- Igor Kessel wrote: > Who would blame me for suddenly turning left under > the rule of the > current administration, Joe? > > Oh my, am I walking on the thin ice here... > :) > > -- > Comrade Igor > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== ------------------------------------- The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true. ------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From iduff at rcn.com Sat Sep 6 18:09:52 2003 From: iduff at rcn.com (Ian Duff) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Caig promo Message-ID: <001801c374bb$375cf090$6601a8c0@ian> FYI, I was surfing for stuff for troubleshooting my boat electronics, and came across a promo for a bundle of Caig stuff, DeoxIT, PreservIT and Pro-Gold, check out http://tinyurl.com/mhdq. No affiliations, etc... -Ian Duff. From miikka.salonen at kolumbus.fi Sun Sep 7 01:45:22 2003 From: miikka.salonen at kolumbus.fi (Miikka Salonen) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: FW: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Message-ID: Again I forgot to press reply _all_ -----Original Message----- From: Miikka Salonen [mailto:miikka.salonen@kolumbus.fi] Sent: 7. syyskuuta 2003 0:45 To: Calvin & Diana Craig Subject: RE: [s-cars] S4 Smashed > I would challenge anybody to pick out the door that was > repaired. If you > have a paint guy who knows what he's doing it really can work. > --Calvin So true. After I was involved in accident, my car's front was painted. It was job well done, really couldn't notice the new paint from old one. I was so impressed that I had the same guy to paint bottom of the driver side front door to fix some marks. Can't even tell the difference in the door! -Miikka- From NDoshi at aol.com Sat Sep 6 19:10:18 2003 From: NDoshi at aol.com (NDoshi@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S6 Avant Sighting Message-ID: <7a.471c7eff.2c8bb54a@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] If you were in a Black S6 Avant on RT 22 this morning, Hello I was in the Silver Avant Nick Doshi 1995.5 S6A 1993 S4 From audisport44 at yahoo.com Sat Sep 6 16:34:31 2003 From: audisport44 at yahoo.com (Dan Bozga) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] S4 Smashed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20030906223431.48717.qmail@web14710.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I'll take the challenge! Dan Calvin & Diana Craig wrote: I would challenge anybody to pick out the door that was repaired. If you have a paint guy who knows what he's doing it really can work. --Calvin -----Original Message----- From: Lee Levitt [mailto:lee@wheelman.com] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 6:17 AM To: Calvin & Diana Craig; karl@matthias.org; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] S4 Smashed Calvin writes: > I had to get Pearl paint matched on my '89 200 and it ran me $650 > to replace the door skin and match the paint. It did come out with a perfect match. On my wife's pearl A6, a front fender replacement plus painting the two right side doors ran $1500. I don't think I'd want to paint a single door on a pearl car. Lee '95.5 S6 avant '96 A6 quattro avant _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software From a4 at d-9.net Fri Sep 5 13:09:03 2003 From: a4 at d-9.net (Jon/Audi A4) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question In-Reply-To: <6.0.0.20.2.20030904195330.02443960@wheresmymailserver.com> Message-ID: > I run my home email and a couple of friends websites off my machines, so I > have to keep a reliable connection like DSL. > The sDSL was through "The River" (still in existence, but no longer local to > Seattle). I do the same thing (in fact this email message went through my home email server/cable connection). I am very happy with my cable connnection. Much faster than DSL and now that comcast increased the uplink I get pretty decent speeds from my webserver at home. I have had (in about 2 years of cable service) maybe 3 outages with comcast. I had about 2 outages a month with DSL when I had DSL. YMMV, as always. Jon From danh at s-cars.org Sat Sep 6 20:33:34 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: Message-ID: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone Potenza RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with these??? These are actually for a Porsche. Later, Dan '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Sevel" To: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. > > Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact is > 2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all > season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling > in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis are > a good alternative. > > THanks, > > Jeff > 95.5 S6 > Seattle WA > > _________________________________________________________________ > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From danh at s-cars.org Sat Sep 6 20:35:04 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question References: Message-ID: <002601c374e8$a5774e40$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> I just had 3 outages with my crappy Comcast service in the last week!!!! I'm looking at alternatives. Later, Dan Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon/Audi A4" To: "Scott Hinckley" Cc: "TM" ; "'Robert Myers'" ; ; "'Quattro list'" Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 9:09 AM Subject: [s-cars] RE: NAC - cable modem vs DSL question > > I run my home email and a couple of friends websites off my machines, so I > > have to keep a reliable connection like DSL. > > The sDSL was through "The River" (still in existence, but no longer local to > > Seattle). > > > I do the same thing (in fact this email message went through my home email > server/cable connection). I am very happy with my cable connnection. > Much faster than DSL and now that comcast increased the uplink I get > pretty decent speeds from my webserver at home. > > I have had (in about 2 years of cable service) maybe 3 outages with > comcast. I had about 2 outages a month with DSL when I had DSL. > > YMMV, as always. > > Jon > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From kpruden at speakeasy.net Sat Sep 6 20:59:52 2003 From: kpruden at speakeasy.net (Kris Pruden) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> References: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <3F5A9F28.2010602@speakeasy.net> Daniel Hussey wrote: > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and > hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. I have a set on my Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent grip, amazing wet performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on before. Kris > > What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone Potenza > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > Later, > Dan > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > Seattle, WA > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Sevel" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > >>Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. >> >>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact > > is > >>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all >>season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling >>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis > > are > >>a good alternative. >> >>THanks, >> >>Jeff >>95.5 S6 >>Seattle WA >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. >>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es >> >>_______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From kirby.a.smith at verizon.net Sat Sep 6 23:51:37 2003 From: kirby.a.smith at verizon.net (Kirby Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <3F5A9D39.9ADCC167@verizon.net> I thought the Tire Rack still had a bunch of SO-2s. kirby Daniel Hussey wrote: > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and > hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... > > What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone Potenza > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > Later, > Dan > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > Seattle, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Sevel" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. > > > > Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact > is > > 2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all > > season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling > > in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis > are > > a good alternative. > > > > THanks, > > > > Jeff > > 95.5 S6 > > Seattle WA > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From danh at s-cars.org Sat Sep 6 21:14:14 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> <3F5A9D39.9ADCC167@verizon.net> Message-ID: <005901c374ee$1dd431f0$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> They still have the SO-2, but not the much better performing SO-2 Pole Positions! Or, if they have some, they are not showing it available on thier web site. I may call them to find out though. Later, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirby Smith" To: "Daniel Hussey" Cc: "Jeff Sevel" ; Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > I thought the Tire Rack still had a bunch of SO-2s. > > kirby > > > > Daniel Hussey wrote: > > > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as > > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced > > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and > > hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions > > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... > > > > What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone Potenza > > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with > > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > > > Later, > > Dan > > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > > Seattle, WA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Sevel" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. > > > > > > Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact > > is > > > 2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all > > > season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling > > > in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis > > are > > > a good alternative. > > > > > > THanks, > > > > > > Jeff > > > 95.5 S6 > > > Seattle WA > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > > > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From danh at s-cars.org Sat Sep 6 21:19:31 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> <3F5A9F28.2010602@speakeasy.net> Message-ID: <005f01c374ee$dac13740$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Kris, Thanks for the input, but no offense... and, really I mean that... I am SICK of people comparing new Ultra-Performance tires to thier OEM crap tires. Tell me something I don't know!!! Of course your new tires are going to be a huge improvement over your SP2000E's or 8000E's or Michelin MXV4's... But, someone give me some info on how they compare to a Firehawk SZ, Sumitomo HTR-Z, Michelin Pilot Sport, or AVS Sport. Sorry for the rant, but I'm having to wade through everyone on Tire Rack's reviews site comparing thier tires to thier balding OE Goodyear Gatorbacks on thier Mustang or Camaro.... i.e., thier evaluation is rendered useless as they have no stance for comparison. Later, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kris Pruden" To: "Daniel Hussey" Cc: "Jeff Sevel" ; Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:59 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > Daniel Hussey wrote: > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as > > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced > > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and > > hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions > > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... > > These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. I have a set on my > Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent grip, amazing wet > performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on before. > > Kris > > > > > What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone Potenza > > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with > > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > > > Later, > > Dan > > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > > Seattle, WA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jeff Sevel" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > > > >>Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. > >> > >>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact > > > > is > > > >>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all > >>season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling > >>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis > > > > are > > > >>a good alternative. > >> > >>THanks, > >> > >>Jeff > >>95.5 S6 > >>Seattle WA > >> > >>_________________________________________________________________ > >>Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > >>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>S-CAR-List mailing list > >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Sep 7 00:55:48 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <005f01c374ee$dac13740$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <000201c374f3$ecbb5200$6400a8c0@newpc> Dan- I can find nothing that says that the HTR-ZII is discontinued- nothing of the sort on Tire Rack's or Sumitomo's website. I'm happy with the HTR-ZII, but I find that the Dunlop SP9000 is a better rain tire and a bit quieter. The Yokohama AVS Sport is an excellent dry and wet tire as well, but they get quite noisy over time. I'm not impressed with Kumho 712s, but everything I hear about the MX makes it sound like the tire to get. For the Porsche, I'd get the MX. Taka From jeffsevel at hotmail.com Sun Sep 7 05:20:31 2003 From: jeffsevel at hotmail.com (Jeff Sevel) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ Message-ID: Dan, In defense of Kris (and no offense BTW), I believe I was the one who initially started this thread. I was just looking for some feedback on the Sumitomo HTR+. Frankly, I dont want to compare OEM tires the new best-of-breed summer tires either. My summers are heading for the garage for a long winters nap. Getting back to my original post, I dont want to spend big $ on Michelin or equivalents. I need an all season, ultra high performance tire that will also, once a week, handle the snowy passes of the Northwest and high speed trips to Whistler/Blackcomb. The Sumi HTR+ has some of the highest ratings for snow (in the ultra high perf category) and would love to hear the experiences of others. Danke sehr, Jeff 95.5 S6 Seattle, WA USA >From: "Daniel Hussey" >To: "Kris Pruden" >CC: "Jeff Sevel" , >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ >Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:19:31 -0700 > >Kris, > >Thanks for the input, but no offense... and, really I mean that... I am >SICK of people comparing new Ultra-Performance tires to thier OEM crap >tires. Tell me something I don't know!!! Of course your new tires are >going to be a huge improvement over your SP2000E's or 8000E's or Michelin >MXV4's... But, someone give me some info on how they compare to a Firehawk >SZ, Sumitomo HTR-Z, Michelin Pilot Sport, or AVS Sport. > >Sorry for the rant, but I'm having to wade through everyone on Tire Rack's >reviews site comparing thier tires to thier balding OE Goodyear Gatorbacks >on thier Mustang or Camaro.... i.e., thier evaluation is rendered useless >as >they have no stance for comparison. > >Later, >Dan > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kris Pruden" >To: "Daniel Hussey" >Cc: "Jeff Sevel" ; >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:59 PM >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > Daniel Hussey wrote: > > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as >far >as > > > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced > > > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and > > > hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole >Positions > > > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... > > > > These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. I have a set on my > > Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent grip, amazing wet > > performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on before. > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone >Potenza > > > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with > > > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > > > > > Later, > > > Dan > > > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > > > Seattle, WA > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Jeff Sevel" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > > > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > > > > > > > >>Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. > > >> > > >>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti >ExtremeContact > > > > > > is > > > > > >>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid >all > > >>season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good >handling > > >>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the >Sumis > > > > > > are > > > > > >>a good alternative. > > >> > > >>THanks, > > >> > > >>Jeff > > >>95.5 S6 > > >>Seattle WA > > >> > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > >>Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > > >>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > >> > > >>_______________________________________________ > > >>S-CAR-List mailing list > > >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es From rokas at wam.umd.edu Sun Sep 7 01:54:12 2003 From: rokas at wam.umd.edu (Rokas Reipa) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: <000201c374f3$ecbb5200$6400a8c0@newpc> Message-ID: <02a401c374fc$1500a410$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Can't beat the Kumho 712 for the price though. At 66 a pop, my 95.5 S6 is now shod with these and I'm pretty happy so far. They are the cheapest v-rated tire available for my car....and the tread pattern looks rather exotic. Tires from Michelin or Conti are better but come on, 66 a piece...:-) Rokas 95.5 S6 ----- Original Message ----- From: "TM" To: "'Daniel Hussey'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:55 PM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > Dan- > I can find nothing that says that the HTR-ZII is discontinued- nothing > of the sort on Tire Rack's or Sumitomo's website. > > I'm happy with the HTR-ZII, but I find that the Dunlop SP9000 is a > better > rain tire and a bit quieter. The Yokohama AVS Sport is an excellent > dry and wet tire as well, but they get quite noisy over time. > > I'm not impressed with Kumho 712s, but everything I hear about the MX > makes > it sound like the tire to get. For the Porsche, I'd get the MX. > > > Taka > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > From johkar at teleport.com Sun Sep 7 00:21:18 2003 From: johkar at teleport.com (John Karasaki) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <3F5A9F28.2010602@speakeasy.net> References: <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> <001d01c374e8$6fcf7f10$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030906232038.0342a5a0@pop.teleport.com> The only drawback to the S-03's are their weight. Especially on a Miata, they seem to weigh a ton... At 07:59 PM 9/6/03 -0700, Kris Pruden wrote: >Daniel Hussey wrote: >>Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as >>I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced >>performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and >>hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions >>have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... > >These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. I have a set on my >Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent grip, amazing wet >performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on before. > >Kris > >> >>What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone Potenza >>RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with >>these??? These are actually for a Porsche. >> >>Later, >>Dan >>'95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) >>Seattle, WA >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Jeff Sevel" >>To: >>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM >>Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ >> >> >> >>>Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. >>> >>>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti ExtremeContact >> >>is >> >>>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid all >>>season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good handling >>>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the Sumis >> >>are >> >>>a good alternative. >>> >>>THanks, >>> >>>Jeff >>>95.5 S6 >>>Seattle WA >>> >>>_________________________________________________________________ >>>Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. >>>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>S-CAR-List mailing list >>>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> >> >>_______________________________________________ >>S-CAR-List mailing list >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From johkar at teleport.com Sun Sep 7 00:26:01 2003 From: johkar at teleport.com (John Karasaki) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <02a401c374fc$1500a410$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> References: <000201c374f3$ecbb5200$6400a8c0@newpc> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20030906232356.03431e50@pop.teleport.com> I've used those for a few years. First on my wife's V8 quattro and now on her A4 Avant. For a cheap tire, they are great. We only seem to get about 12,000 miles out of them, however. Have you been getting better mileage? At 12:54 AM 9/7/03 -0400, Rokas Reipa wrote: >Can't beat the Kumho 712 for the price though. At 66 a pop, my 95.5 S6 is >now shod with these and I'm pretty happy so far. They are the cheapest >v-rated tire available for my car....and the tread pattern looks rather >exotic. Tires from Michelin or Conti are better but come on, 66 a >piece...:-) > >Rokas >95.5 S6 >----- Original Message ----- >From: "TM" >To: "'Daniel Hussey'" >Cc: >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:55 PM >Subject: RE: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > Dan- > > I can find nothing that says that the HTR-ZII is discontinued- nothing > > of the sort on Tire Rack's or Sumitomo's website. > > > > I'm happy with the HTR-ZII, but I find that the Dunlop SP9000 is a > > better > > rain tire and a bit quieter. The Yokohama AVS Sport is an excellent > > dry and wet tire as well, but they get quite noisy over time. > > > > I'm not impressed with Kumho 712s, but everything I hear about the MX > > makes > > it sound like the tire to get. For the Porsche, I'd get the MX. > > > > > > Taka > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >S-CAR-List mailing list >S-CAR-List@audifans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From shr42 at msn.com Sun Sep 7 02:20:22 2003 From: shr42 at msn.com (Stephen Redford) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Caig promo References: <001801c374bb$375cf090$6601a8c0@ian> Message-ID: <018401c37518$e2c17520$0200000a@stevered> --------------Thanks for reminding me , I needed to get that , DeoxIT cleaner ... More than a few people on this list and the Urq List have mentioned it as being a very good thing to have / use on all the electrical connections . .... Stephen Redford ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Duff" To: "quattro S List" ; "Soverel 33 List" Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 2:09 PM Subject: [s-cars] Caig promo > FYI, I was surfing for stuff for troubleshooting my boat electronics, and > came across a promo for a bundle of Caig stuff, DeoxIT, PreservIT and > Pro-Gold, check out http://tinyurl.com/mhdq. No affiliations, etc... > -Ian Duff. > > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From danh at s-cars.org Sun Sep 7 04:28:26 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: Message-ID: <002401c3752a$c6158080$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Hi Jeff, I live in the great Northwest as well, but am a transplant from the midwest. I can tell you with a certainty, that there is no such thing as a ultra-performance tire that is also a snow tire. Best advice I can give you is to get a set of snows (I reccomend the Pirelli Winter 210 Assymetrics) and leave them on for the season if you are crossing the passes often. A good rain-shedding summer tire is what I am looking for. I won't be taking the 944 S2 up to the mountains, so it isn't even a concern of mine. But wet traction and hydroplane resistance is a HUGE factor, living in Seattle. Later, Dan '95 S6 Avant (gone, but not forgotten) '89 944 S2 (new toy) '87 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (aka "Ski Bitch") Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Sevel" To: ; Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:20 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > Dan, > > In defense of Kris (and no offense BTW), I believe I was the one who > initially started this thread. I was just looking for some feedback on the > Sumitomo HTR+. Frankly, I dont want to compare OEM tires the new > best-of-breed summer tires either. My summers are heading for the garage for > a long winters nap. > > Getting back to my original post, I dont want to spend big $ on Michelin or > equivalents. I need an all season, ultra high performance tire that will > also, once a week, handle the snowy passes of the Northwest and high speed > trips to Whistler/Blackcomb. The Sumi HTR+ has some of the highest ratings > for snow (in the ultra high perf category) and would love to hear the > experiences of others. > > Danke sehr, > > Jeff > 95.5 S6 > Seattle, WA USA > > >From: "Daniel Hussey" > >To: "Kris Pruden" > >CC: "Jeff Sevel" , > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > >Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:19:31 -0700 > > > >Kris, > > > >Thanks for the input, but no offense... and, really I mean that... I am > >SICK of people comparing new Ultra-Performance tires to thier OEM crap > >tires. Tell me something I don't know!!! Of course your new tires are > >going to be a huge improvement over your SP2000E's or 8000E's or Michelin > >MXV4's... But, someone give me some info on how they compare to a Firehawk > >SZ, Sumitomo HTR-Z, Michelin Pilot Sport, or AVS Sport. > > > >Sorry for the rant, but I'm having to wade through everyone on Tire Rack's > >reviews site comparing thier tires to thier balding OE Goodyear Gatorbacks > >on thier Mustang or Camaro.... i.e., thier evaluation is rendered useless > >as > >they have no stance for comparison. > > > >Later, > >Dan > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Kris Pruden" > >To: "Daniel Hussey" > >Cc: "Jeff Sevel" ; > >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:59 PM > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > > > Daniel Hussey wrote: > > > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as > >far > >as > > > > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced > > > > performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding and > > > > hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole > >Positions > > > > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... > > > > > > These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. I have a set on my > > > Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent grip, amazing wet > > > performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on before. > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone > >Potenza > > > > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences with > > > > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > > > > > > > Later, > > > > Dan > > > > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > > > > Seattle, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Jeff Sevel" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > > > > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. > > > >> > > > >>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti > >ExtremeContact > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > >>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid > >all > > > >>season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good > >handling > > > >>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the > >Sumis > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > >>a good alternative. > > > >> > > > >>THanks, > > > >> > > > >>Jeff > > > >>95.5 S6 > > > >>Seattle WA > > > >> > > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > > >>Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. > > > >>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > >> > > > >>_______________________________________________ > > > >>S-CAR-List mailing list > > > >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get 10MB of e-mail storage! Sign up for Hotmail Extra Storage. > http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > From danh at s-cars.org Sun Sep 7 04:33:28 2003 From: danh at s-cars.org (Daniel Hussey) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ References: <000201c374f3$ecbb5200$6400a8c0@newpc> <02a401c374fc$1500a410$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: <003001c3752b$7a29f740$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Thanks for your input Rokas, but think about it.... The only thing between your car in the road is the contact patch on your tire. The place to save a few bucks???? I think not. Tires are WELL worth thier weight in performance, braking, and traction in adverse conditions. Saving $100 on a new set of tires is no big deal. Getting the edge on performance is a BIG deal to me. I'll pay extra for the best compount/tread design. Later, Dan '95 S6 Avant (gone, but not forgotten) '89 944 S2 (new toy) '87 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (aks "ski bitch") Seattle, WA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rokas Reipa" To: "TM" ; "'Daniel Hussey'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:54 PM Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > Can't beat the Kumho 712 for the price though. At 66 a pop, my 95.5 S6 is > now shod with these and I'm pretty happy so far. They are the cheapest > v-rated tire available for my car....and the tread pattern looks rather > exotic. Tires from Michelin or Conti are better but come on, 66 a > piece...:-) > > Rokas > 95.5 S6 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "TM" > To: "'Daniel Hussey'" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:55 PM > Subject: RE: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > Dan- > > I can find nothing that says that the HTR-ZII is discontinued- nothing > > of the sort on Tire Rack's or Sumitomo's website. > > > > I'm happy with the HTR-ZII, but I find that the Dunlop SP9000 is a > > better > > rain tire and a bit quieter. The Yokohama AVS Sport is an excellent > > dry and wet tire as well, but they get quite noisy over time. > > > > I'm not impressed with Kumho 712s, but everything I hear about the MX > > makes > > it sound like the tire to get. For the Porsche, I'd get the MX. > > > > > > Taka > > > > _______________________________________________ > > S-CAR-List mailing list > > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > From pizzoman at yahoo.com Sun Sep 7 05:08:36 2003 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <002401c3752a$c6158080$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <20030907110836.73420.qmail@web20806.mail.yahoo.com> Dan, If you're into wet performance, get Potenza S-03's. They're not cheap, but DAMN, they grip, wet or dry. --- Daniel Hussey wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I live in the great Northwest as well, but am a > transplant from the midwest. > I can tell you with a certainty, that there is no > such thing as a > ultra-performance tire that is also a snow tire. > Best advice I can give you > is to get a set of snows (I reccomend the Pirelli > Winter 210 Assymetrics) > and leave them on for the season if you are crossing > the passes often. > > A good rain-shedding summer tire is what I am > looking for. I won't be > taking the 944 S2 up to the mountains, so it isn't > even a concern of mine. > But wet traction and hydroplane resistance is a HUGE > factor, living in > Seattle. > > Later, > Dan > '95 S6 Avant (gone, but not forgotten) > '89 944 S2 (new toy) > '87 Jeep Cherokee 4x4 (aka "Ski Bitch") > Seattle, WA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff Sevel" > To: ; > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 9:20 PM > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > Dan, > > > > In defense of Kris (and no offense BTW), I believe > I was the one who > > initially started this thread. I was just looking > for some feedback on the > > Sumitomo HTR+. Frankly, I dont want to compare OEM > tires the new > > best-of-breed summer tires either. My summers are > heading for the garage > for > > a long winters nap. > > > > Getting back to my original post, I dont want to > spend big $ on Michelin > or > > equivalents. I need an all season, ultra high > performance tire that will > > also, once a week, handle the snowy passes of the > Northwest and high speed > > trips to Whistler/Blackcomb. The Sumi HTR+ has > some of the highest ratings > > for snow (in the ultra high perf category) and > would love to hear the > > experiences of others. > > > > Danke sehr, > > > > Jeff > > 95.5 S6 > > Seattle, WA USA > > > > >From: "Daniel Hussey" > > >To: "Kris Pruden" > > >CC: "Jeff Sevel" , > > > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > >Date: Sat, 6 Sep 2003 20:19:31 -0700 > > > > > >Kris, > > > > > >Thanks for the input, but no offense... and, > really I mean that... I am > > >SICK of people comparing new Ultra-Performance > tires to thier OEM crap > > >tires. Tell me something I don't know!!! Of > course your new tires are > > >going to be a huge improvement over your > SP2000E's or 8000E's or Michelin > > >MXV4's... But, someone give me some info on how > they compare to a > Firehawk > > >SZ, Sumitomo HTR-Z, Michelin Pilot Sport, or AVS > Sport. > > > > > >Sorry for the rant, but I'm having to wade > through everyone on Tire > Rack's > > >reviews site comparing thier tires to thier > balding OE Goodyear > Gatorbacks > > >on thier Mustang or Camaro.... i.e., thier > evaluation is rendered useless > > >as > > >they have no stance for comparison. > > > > > >Later, > > >Dan > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Kris Pruden" > > >To: "Daniel Hussey" > > >Cc: "Jeff Sevel" ; > > > >Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:59 PM > > >Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > > > > > > Daniel Hussey wrote: > > > > > Well, the tire that was all the rage was the > Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as > > >far > > >as > > > > > I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. > This was the advanced > > > > > performance tire with a more rain tire > design (good water shedding > and > > > > > hydroplane resistance). Also, the > Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole > > >Positions > > > > > have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain > tire)... > > > > > > > > These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole > Position. I have a set on > my > > > > Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. > Excellent grip, amazing wet > > > > performance, and less road noise then the OEM > Michelins I had on > before. > > > > > > > > Kris > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the good choises now??? I'm > looking at the Bridgestone > > >Potenza > > > > > RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. > Anyone have experiences > with > > > > > these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > > > > > > > > > > Later, > > > > > Dan > > > > > '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > > > > > Seattle, WA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Jeff Sevel" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > > > > > Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Thought I posted this last night but > apparently did not go through. > > > > >> > > > > >>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo > HTR+ ? The Conti > > >ExtremeContact > > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > >>2 months backorder at the > manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid > > >all > > > > >>season that can handle fast driving in the > dry and wet.. and good > > >handling > > > > >>in the snow as well. I cant afford the > Michelins and have read the > > >Sumis > > > > > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > > >>a good alternative. > > > > >> > > > > >>THanks, > > > > >> > > > > >>Jeff > > > > >>95.5 S6 > > > > >>Seattle WA > > > > >> > > > > > >>_________________________________________________________________ > > > > >>Send and receive larger attachments with > Hotmail Extra Storage. > > > > >>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > > > > >> > > > > > >>_______________________________________________ > === message truncated === ===== ------------------------------------- The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true. ------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From pizzoman at yahoo.com Sun Sep 7 05:11:33 2003 From: pizzoman at yahoo.com (Joseph Pizzimenti) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20030906232038.0342a5a0@pop.teleport.com> Message-ID: <20030907111133.59895.qmail@web20805.mail.yahoo.com> I don't know if anyone's mentioned the Falken Ziex 512's yet. I have a set of them on the V8Q and they seem to be a pretty decent rain and summer tire and are around 99 bucks a pop. They may get you by in the snow, too --- John Karasaki wrote: > The only drawback to the S-03's are their weight. > Especially on a Miata, > they seem to weigh a ton... > > At 07:59 PM 9/6/03 -0700, Kris Pruden wrote: > >Daniel Hussey wrote: > >>Well, the tire that was all the rage was the > Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as far as > >>I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This > was the advanced > >>performance tire with a more rain tire design > (good water shedding and > >>hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone > Potenza SO-2 Pole Positions > >>have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain > tire)... > > > >These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. > I have a set on my > >Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent > grip, amazing wet > >performance, and less road noise then the OEM > Michelins I had on before. > > > >Kris > > > >> > >>What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at > the Bridgestone Potenza > >>RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone > have experiences with > >>these??? These are actually for a Porsche. > >> > >>Later, > >>Dan > >>'95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) > >>Seattle, WA > >> > >> > >>----- Original Message ----- > >>From: "Jeff Sevel" > >>To: > >>Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM > >>Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > >> > >> > >> > >>>Thought I posted this last night but apparently > did not go through. > >>> > >>>Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? > The Conti ExtremeContact > >> > >>is > >> > >>>2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard > the Sumi was a solid all > >>>season that can handle fast driving in the dry > and wet.. and good handling > >>>in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins > and have read the Sumis > >> > >>are > >> > >>>a good alternative. > >>> > >>>THanks, > >>> > >>>Jeff > >>>95.5 S6 > >>>Seattle WA > >>> > >>>_________________________________________________________________ > >>>Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail > Extra Storage. > >>>http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es > >>> > >>>_______________________________________________ > >>>S-CAR-List mailing list > >>>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >>>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > >> > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>S-CAR-List mailing list > >>S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >S-CAR-List mailing list > >S-CAR-List@audifans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list ===== ------------------------------------- The following statement is false. The preceding statement is true. ------------------------------------- __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Sun Sep 7 09:10:17 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Sevel" at Sep 07, 2003 04:20:31 AM Message-ID: <200309071210.h87CAIg23343@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier, Jeff Sevel wrote: > > Dan, > > In defense of Kris (and no offense BTW), I believe I was the one who > initially started this thread. I was just looking for some feedback on the > Sumitomo HTR+. Frankly, I dont want to compare OEM tires the new > best-of-breed summer tires either. My summers are heading for the garage for > a long winters nap. I don't know if the Sumitomo HTR+ is the same tire as the Sumitomo HTRZ II. I've used both the HTRZ and the HTRZ II, on a '93 V8 Quattro and the UrS6. Both types were in 245/40x17" sizes. Both of these tires are in the $110/tire category, both are very good high performance street tires, both are good in the wet. The HTRZ II stays quiet as it wears. The HTRZ II is better in the snow than the HTRZ. How good in the snow? They work fine when I an caught in an early snow of the 1/2" to 1" type. I don't really know, because we don't usually get huge amounts of snow here and when that season rolls around I install the wheels with the studded Nokian Hakkapeliitta 1s. And if the snow is really deep, I can put chains on the 4x4 Dodge PU. - Charlie Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features 97 Dodge Ram - 40 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel From robert at s-cars.org Sun Sep 7 09:33:12 2003 From: robert at s-cars.org (Robert Myers) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Tire size fitment Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.2.20030907082945.020a8660@mail.charter.net> Hi Y'all, Does anyone know for sure whether a 245/45R16 tire will fit as an alternative to the stock 225/50R16 my '95 urS6? If so, how about it? The outside diameter is close enough so that speedometer error will be pretty much minimal and it looks to me like there is plenty of clearance but... _____ The recent blackout was traced to a dim bulb in the White House. Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From william.healy at snet.net Sun Sep 7 09:55:41 2003 From: william.healy at snet.net (Bill Healy) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:44 2003 Subject: [s-cars] worn steering rack mount symptoms Message-ID: Listers, I'm getting a noise, best descrbed as: "womp - womp - womp" out of my front pass. side wheel when I make a sweeping turn to the right on a curve, usually at 25-40 mph. The wheel bearings, CV joints and tires all are good. It feels like it could be steering related, as I feel it slightly in the steering wheel. Could this be a worn pass. side steering rack to frame bushing? Any BTDT's out there. Thanks for your help. Bill Healy '93 S4 From bryan.sung at cgey.com Sun Sep 7 00:16:57 2003 From: bryan.sung at cgey.com (Sung, Bryan M.) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks for the information - unfortunately I took the instrument cluster out and cleaned the contacts (the wire contacts for each of the three connectors), and no dice. I noticed that the farthest left connector was for the digital displays which control the clock, center panel, and the odometer, and the only one that's screwed up is the center display). I have a feeling that I'm hosed and it's just a defective display overall. Any further ideas? If I do have to buy a new display, it looks like I'm going to have to purchase the entire instrument cluster. Have any ideas or know where I can get a deal on one? I don't relish the idea of spending 700 dollars for Audi to provide me with one... blah. Thanks again for all the help folks... Bryan -----Original Message----- From: Robert Myers [mailto:robert@s-cars.org] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:52 PM To: Sung, Bryan M.; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: RE: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? Remove 2/3 screws from bottom side of trim strip below cluster. Remove said strip. Remove 3/4 scrrews thus exposed along bottom edge of cluster. Pull cluster toward you and tip it so it is face down. Disconnect the several electrical connections thus exposed. Don't apply excessive force each connector has a catch mechanism which must be released before it will come apart. Just figure these out and disconnect them. The cluster is now free to be removed. Having the wheel adjusted as far from the dash as possible and as vertical as possible will provide greater clearance. At 10:04 AM 9/5/2003, Sung, Bryan M. wrote: That being said, does anyone have any documentation on how to remove the dashboard in order to do a quick cleaning? I will also do a search on the archive, but I was wondering if anyone had any quick information on the best way to remove the display. Thanks for the input.. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Myers [ mailto:robert@s-cars.org] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 5:43 AM To: Sung, Bryan M.; s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? Bryan, This could be nothing more than a symptom of dirty internal contacts inside the Instrument Cluster (IC). If so, the fix is to remove the IC, open it up (including the hinged back side cover, clean the contacts, perhaps apply a drop or two of contact enhancer, close it up, and put it back in the car. Perhaps a 30 minute kitchen table job. BTDT with an '89 200tq While you are in there this would be an excellent time to upgrade the dim 1.1 watt instrument light bulbs with 2 watt bulbs from rod@thepartsconnection.com. It requires about 10 of them for about $1.25 each and will make a world of difference in night time instrument visibility. At 11:10 PM 9/4/2003, Sung, Bryan M. wrote: The center display in the dashboard console of my 2000 S4 has gone haywire. The LED's in the center console display have begun to go on the fritz, and the areas where the radio station, outside temperature, and other computer information displays now have become unreadable due to missing lines. I took it in to my local dealership and they said that it wasn't a normal occurrence, but it would cost me over 700 dollars to fix it (essentially having to replace the whole dashboard display). Unfortunately it's now obviously out of warranty by almost a year, and I can't read any of the display (wish I had the current four year warranty that they now offer on Audi's). The lines seem to come in and out of view, sometimes lighting up, and other times being dead to the world. Anyone have any suggestions on where I can get a cheap replacement, or if there's anything electronically that I can do to fix it? Just wondering if anyone else has had this problem. _________________________________________________________________ This message contains information that may be privileged or confidential and is the property of the Cap Gemini/Ernst & Young Group. It is intended only for the person to whom it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy, disseminate, distribute, or use this message or any part thereof. 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Version: 6.0.515 / Virus Database: 313 - Release Date: 9/1/2003 ____ The last time anyone listened to a Bush they wandered in the desert for forty years. :-( Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** From kpruden at speakeasy.net Sat Sep 6 22:06:03 2003 From: kpruden at speakeasy.net (Kris J.Pruden) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <005f01c374ee$dac13740$0200a8c0@ibm6ziban0kf46> Message-ID: <99398790-E0E8-11D7-988F-000393824A5A@speakeasy.net> None taken. I recall experiencing similar frustration over the irrelevance of the customer reviews when I was researching tires :) FWIW, I believe the OEM Michelins that came on my Miata were Pilot SX-GTs, which were also very good tires. I was very happy with them, and would have got another pair, but they were discontinued. They were a V-rated all-season tire; looking at the current Michelin model lineup, I suspect they have been replaced by the Pilot XGT V4. Certainly not in the same class as the S-03, but close enough, I think, to provide a meaningful comparison. I went with the S-03's on the recommendation of several friends, and after reading reviews on Tirerack (and other places). At any rate, I highly recommend the S-03's. Kris On Saturday, September 6, 2003, at 08:19 PM, Daniel Hussey wrote: > Kris, > > Thanks for the input, but no offense... and, really I mean that... I > am > SICK of people comparing new Ultra-Performance tires to thier OEM crap > tires. Tell me something I don't know!!! Of course your new tires are > going to be a huge improvement over your SP2000E's or 8000E's or > Michelin > MXV4's... But, someone give me some info on how they compare to a > Firehawk > SZ, Sumitomo HTR-Z, Michelin Pilot Sport, or AVS Sport. > > Sorry for the rant, but I'm having to wade through everyone on Tire > Rack's > reviews site comparing thier tires to thier balding OE Goodyear > Gatorbacks > on thier Mustang or Camaro.... i.e., thier evaluation is rendered > useless as > they have no stance for comparison. > > Later, > Dan > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kris Pruden" > To: "Daniel Hussey" > Cc: "Jeff Sevel" ; > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 7:59 PM > Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ > > >> Daniel Hussey wrote: >>> Well, the tire that was all the rage was the Sumitomo HTR-Z2, but as >>> far > as >>> I can tell, this tire has been discontinued. This was the advanced >>> performance tire with a more rain tire design (good water shedding >>> and >>> hydroplane resistance). Also, the Bridgestone Potenza SO-2 Pole > Positions >>> have been discontinued (also an AWSOME rain tire)... >> >> These have been replaced by the S-03 Pole Position. I have a set on >> my >> Miata, and I am *very* happy with them. Excellent grip, amazing wet >> performance, and less road noise then the OEM Michelins I had on >> before. >> >> Kris >> >>> >>> What are the good choises now??? I'm looking at the Bridgestone >>> Potenza >>> RE750 and the Firestone Firehawk SZ50's. Anyone have experiences >>> with >>> these??? These are actually for a Porsche. >>> >>> Later, >>> Dan >>> '95 S6 Avant (Europa/ecru) >>> Seattle, WA >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Jeff Sevel" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 12:20 PM >>> Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ >>> >>> >>> >>>> Thought I posted this last night but apparently did not go through. >>>> >>>> Has anyone had experience w/ the Sumitomo HTR+ ? The Conti > ExtremeContact >>> >>> is >>> >>>> 2 months backorder at the manufacturer...heard the Sumi was a solid >>>> all >>>> season that can handle fast driving in the dry and wet.. and good > handling >>>> in the snow as well. I cant afford the Michelins and have read the >>>> Sumis >>> >>> are >>> >>>> a good alternative. >>>> >>>> THanks, >>>> >>>> Jeff >>>> 95.5 S6 >>>> Seattle WA >>>> >>>> _________________________________________________________________ >>>> Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. >>>> http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> S-CAR-List mailing list >>>> S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>>> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> S-CAR-List mailing list >>> S-CAR-List@audifans.com >>> http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list >> >> > From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Sep 7 11:13:37 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000301c3754a$3bb1bec0$6400a8c0@newpc> For snow performance, I'd get Nokian WR in the v-rated version for best dry handling. Not the greatest snow tire, but with proper size selection, much better than most other all-seasons for snow capability. Taka From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Sep 7 11:15:44 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ In-Reply-To: <02a401c374fc$1500a410$6401a8c0@rokasistheshit> Message-ID: <000401c3754a$87403e70$6400a8c0@newpc> I'd spend the $100 for the Ecsta MX or at least $80 for the Yokohama ES100. Taka -----Original Message----- From: Rokas Reipa [mailto:rokas@wam.umd.edu] Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 12:54 AM To: TM; 'Daniel Hussey' Cc: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: Re: [s-cars] Sumitomo HTR+ Can't beat the Kumho 712 for the price though. At 66 a pop, my 95.5 S6 is now shod with these and I'm pretty happy so far. They are the cheapest v-rated tire available for my car....and the tread pattern looks rather exotic. Tires from Michelin or Conti are better but come on, 66 a piece...:-) Rokas 95.5 S6 From cpayne at bconnected.com Sun Sep 7 09:17:30 2003 From: cpayne at bconnected.com (Cody Payne) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Partial RS2 Conversion? Message-ID: <7FC6F040B9BC89438554CC8CE60DA34C99E79C@exchangebox.is.covaleo.com> Gents, Are there any issues or advantages/disadvantages to installing RS2 MAF and Injectors with the correct RS2 software but using the stock K24 turbo and Manifold? Or should I just wait to do it all at once? cp From t44tq at mindspring.com Sun Sep 7 11:24:06 2003 From: t44tq at mindspring.com (TM) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Tire size fitment In-Reply-To: <5.2.1.1.2.20030907082945.020a8660@mail.charter.net> Message-ID: <000501c3754b$b26fe360$6400a8c0@newpc> Yes Bob- 245/45R16 will fit fine, many UrS guys are running that combo. You can run up to about 255/40R17, don't know if 265s in any profile will fit, might need custom offset wheels. Taka -----Original Message----- From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Myers Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:33 AM To: s-car-list@audifans.com Subject: [s-cars] Tire size fitment Hi Y'all, Does anyone know for sure whether a 245/45R16 tire will fit as an alternative to the stock 225/50R16 my '95 urS6? If so, how about it? The outside diameter is close enough so that speedometer error will be pretty much minimal and it looks to me like there is plenty of clearance but... _____ The recent blackout was traced to a dim bulb in the White House. Bob ***** Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm ***** _______________________________________________ S-CAR-List mailing list S-CAR-List@audifans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From strangconst at rogers.com Sun Sep 7 11:42:59 2003 From: strangconst at rogers.com (Mark Strangways) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] Tire size fitment References: <000501c3754b$b26fe360$6400a8c0@newpc> Message-ID: <007201c3754e$55aee510$0d00000a@strangconst.ca> I run 255 / 40 17 and have no rubbing at all I ran 245/45 17 and they would just rub a bit at lock. Mark S ----- Original Message ----- From: "TM" To: "'Robert Myers'" ; Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 10:24 AM Subject: RE: [s-cars] Tire size fitment > Yes Bob- 245/45R16 will fit fine, many UrS guys are > running that combo. > > You can run up to about 255/40R17, don't know if 265s > in any profile will fit, might need custom offset wheels. > > Taka > > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com] On Behalf Of Robert Myers > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2003 8:33 AM > To: s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: [s-cars] Tire size fitment > > > > Hi Y'all, > > Does anyone know for sure whether a 245/45R16 tire will fit as an > alternative to the stock 225/50R16 my '95 urS6? If so, how about it? > The outside diameter is close enough so that speedometer error will be > pretty much minimal and it looks to me like there is plenty of clearance > but... > > > _____ > The recent blackout was traced to a dim bulb in the White House. > > Bob > ***** > Robert L. Myers 304-574-2372 > Rt. 4, Box 57, Fayetteville, WV 25840 USA WV tag Q SHIP > '95 urS6 Cashmere Grey - der Wunderwagen ICQ 22170244 > http://www.cob-net.org/church/pvcob.htm > ***** > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list > > _______________________________________________ > S-CAR-List mailing list > S-CAR-List@audifans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/s-car-list From bob.rossato at att.net Sun Sep 7 13:33:21 2003 From: bob.rossato at att.net (Bob Rossato) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Did you use any contact cleaner/enhancer such as Stabilant? Stabilant is this weird mystery fluid that can be conductive, yet non-conductive at the same time, i.e. it will increase the conductance of two mating pins yet not short out with adjacent pins. I think it even helps regrow hair but what do I know. I'm not an electrical engineer and those guys do some weird things. I believe Caig DeOxit is similar. If that doesn't do the trick there is one other possibility that comes to mind. And this is going to be pure conjecture at this point since I'm not familiar at all with the A4/S4 instrument cluster (B5 chassis) but, on the '92-'97 100/UrS4 & A6/S6 instrument clusters (C4 chassis) the digital displays are typically connected to the circuit board via pad contacts. So, if your 2000 S4 has a similar arrangement your problem may be with the continuity at those pads instead of the connectors feeding the circuit board. Remove the IC again and disassemble the cluster to get to the center display. Remove the center display and clean the contact pads on both the display and the circuit board. Bob R. > -----Original Message----- > From: s-car-list-admin@audifans.com > [mailto:s-car-list-admin@audifans.com]On Behalf Of Sung, Bryan M. > Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 11:17 PM > To: Robert Myers; s-car-list@audifans.com > Subject: RE: [s-cars] bad dashboard computer display in 2000 S4 - ideas? > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Thanks for the information - unfortunately I took the instrument cluster > out and cleaned the contacts (the wire contacts for each of the three > connectors), and no dice. I noticed that the farthest left connector > was for the digital displays which control the clock, center panel, and > the odometer, and the only one that's screwed up is the center display). > I have a feeling that I'm hosed and it's just a defective display > overall. Any further ideas? If I do have to buy a new display, it > looks like I'm going to have to purchase the entire instrument cluster. > Have any ideas or know where I can get a deal on one? I don't relish > the idea of spending 700 dollars for Audi to provide me with one... > blah. > > Thanks again for all the help folks... > Bryan From toddekramer at msn.com Sun Sep 7 12:19:22 2003 From: toddekramer at msn.com (TODD KRAMER) Date: Thu Nov 20 11:51:45 2003 Subject: [s-cars] RS2 Partial Conversion (Long) Message-ID: Cody, My experience is the RS2 fuel "set" must be changed as a unit. I define this as MAF, Injectors, Fuel Pressure Regulator, and software. I am sure my findings will be debated, ad naseum, by my fellow listers... I, personally, have run all possible configurations with the Software, MAF, Inj, FPR, and turbo and have found that the turbo is the only optional peice of the puzzle. The software is coded to keep the fuel/air mix with the "optimum" range matched to the airflow (turbo). If the airflow is contant, regardless of turbo, then: The MAF signals to the injectors to flow at a percentage of max based on the voltage signal sent ... the RS2 MAF is expecting RS2 flow rates. The software is coded based on a "matched" MAF, INJ, FPR. When I ran RS2 MAF and RS2 INJ and stock FPR ... air/fuel mixture was incredibly rich (stock FPR max flow is greater than RS2 FPR ... 100% of 4.0bar is much greater than 100% of 3.2). The reverse was true when I used the RS2 FPR with stock injectors (ran too lean in that the stock injectors flow substantially less at 100% than do the RS2 injectors .... duh.) So ... MY EXPERIENCE was that the stock turbo didl not show significant gains in power with a change in a fuel delivery "set" (the turbo can only flow so much air before it is limited by the ECU or by heat soak). An RS2 set will flow the same amount of fuel, as called for by the software. The main difference is that at max output, the stock system is truly maxed ... the RS2 set has untapped capabliities until you flow more air... This happens when you upgrade to a larger turbo... Food for tho