[s-cars] Gelling coolant
Pasqualoni, James E
james.pasqualoni at gs.com
Tue Apr 17 14:06:44 EDT 2007
Collective sigh of relief...
Thanks Tom. How's things Down Souf?
From: Tom Green [mailto:trgreen at comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:06 PM
To: Pasqualoni, James E
Cc: Gísli Óttarsson; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant
I'll jump in to say, no, it hasn't been mentioned in this thread yet, Jim.
I had considered it, but never mentioned it since Gisli wrote that the coolant was still mostly pink. If it were oil globules or milky coolant I felt he would have recognized that and said "I've been robbed".
It appears to be the classic mixing of incompatible coolants.
I was joking about the Icelandic hot water but had to mention it since I had these visions of the deposits in the mineral pools and smells that stay with you a long time.
On Apr 17, 2007, at 1:20 PM, Pasqualoni, James E wrote:
> I am late to this thread, so please excuse me if this has already been
> mentioned-are you sure there is no oil in the coolant, ie head gasket
> -----Original Message-----
> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:s-car-list-
> bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of Gísli Óttarsson
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:18 PM
> To: Tom Green
> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant
> I nearly responded to your previous message about de-mineralized water
> by commenting that that is what comes out of our cold-water taps here
> in Iceland. No such luck for the hot-water tap. This is so polluted
> by minerals and sulfur that you would think someone let eggs rot in
> your bathroom. Good for the teeth and the sperm-count, I suppose, but
> I would not dream of letting it anywhere near my Audi. And no, the
> car only recently arrived on Icelandic shores so it is a near
> certainty that this is not what's ailing the cooling system.
> On 4/17/07, Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:
>> I think your caution is don't shock the engine by removing the
>> coolant and/or giving it a big dose of cold water. But, it doesn't
>> require a long cool-down period before draining since the temps are
>> equalized by running at idle. I would be cautious about dumping a
>> lot of cold water from a hose with lots of pressure and flow into the
>> Besides, you are likely to cause the thermostat to close and really
>> slow down the process. Use some warm water to temper the water if
>> you are nervous about it. Add slowly in any case, you won't use that
>> much per flush. I would suggest using some of that Icelandic
>> water but I've seen the mineral content. :-) Hmmmm, could that be
>> what's in the coolant now? :-)
>>> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2007 09:30:20 -0400
>>> From: Mark Pollan <mark.pollan at verizonbusiness.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant
>>> To: s-car-list at audifans.com
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>>> Best/required to let her cool down before you drain and refill no?
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
>>> [mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of G?sli
>>> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2007 7:13 PM
>>> To: Tom Green
>>> Cc: s-car-list at audifans.com
>>> Subject: Re: [s-cars] Gelling coolant
>>> This seems straightforward enough. I'll probably have a go this
>>> week-end, if weather permits.
>>> On 4/16/07, Tom Green <trgreen at comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> I'll have to defer to Dave Dawson on the details, but, you have the
>>>> right idea, and the Finish should be fine. This is dishwasher
>>>> detergent, not the dishwashing detergent for hand-washing dishes.
>>>> I suggest about a half cup or two times the normal dishwasher
>>>> amount. Drain the coolant first and refill with water and add the
>>>> You don't want to operate the car, just run the engine until it
>>>> gets up to temperature, then about 15 to 20 minutes at idle to let
>>>> the cleaners work in the system including the heater. Then drain
>>>> and refill with water, bring to temperature, drain and repeat until
>>>> the coolant water is perfectly clear. It may take several times to
>>>> remove all the old
>>>> coolant and the dishwasher detergent. Even the low sudsing
>>>> dishwasher detergent
>>>> can foam some, so it is important to completely flush all traces
>>>> from the cooling system or a slight amount of foam can cause an air
>>>> block in the system and a localized over- heating can occur. Who
>>>> knows if it is compatible with coolant?
>>>> I suspect those fleet maintenance guys have a power flushing
>>>> machine to expedite this process.
>>>> It is a good practice to use de-mineralized (soft) water for the
>>>> up portion of the
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