[s-cars] UrS4 brake hardware question
waves at comcast.net
Wed Oct 3 19:37:01 PDT 2007
Allow me to clarify. No, I would never run full 'REAL' race pads on the
street... ever. There is a difference between 'real' race pads and pads you
can buy through tire rack and most other major suppliers. The pads i used on
my 77 scirocco were full blown ceramic versions that cost upwards of $175 a
set 10 years ago. I don't recall the exact model, but it was a PF brand.
They actually worked very well from dead cold, better than a common street
pad. With temps of course, they got better. Anyway, The Hawk HP + and EBC
yellow are often marketed as an autocross pad. Obviously in an autocross you
don't have the opportunity to warm pads like you do in a road race event
where you have a warm-up lap. Therefor it is an acceptable pad for street
use. FWIW, most of the current gen. of high-end PF race pads have a working
temp range of 167degrees F and up. 167deg. is quickly obtainable within the
first hard stop, though i wouldn't want to rely on them in an emergency.
Anyway, I'm looking for an 'autocross' type pad, nothing more.
----- Original Message -----
From: Taka Mizutani
To: LL - NY
Cc: RM ; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] UrS4 brake hardware question
Rolf was talking about full race pads. I take that to mean something like
Pagid Orange, Pagid Yellow, Hawk Blue, Hawk HT-14, etc. None of those pads
are suitable for street use.
As I clearly stated previously, EBC Yellowstuff and Hawk HP Plus are
suitable for street use. Hawk HP Plus do squeal at times in cold weather,
but I've never had any issues with them as of yet.
There are better pads for strictly street use, esp. if you like pads with a
strong initial bite.
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