[s-cars] Installing Torsen diffs and disabling EDL on a

pkrasusky at ups.com pkrasusky at ups.com
Fri Jan 25 07:09:54 PST 2008

Ahhhhhhhhh...  the List lives on.  Niiiiiice.  Haven't had a good post
like that in quitesomewhile Scott thanks.

Lotsa good stuff there, lotta 'amen bruthas' shouted out.  Esp. enjoyed
the Pederwaggen report.  And the obligatory sig.  I'm a *bit* miffed
however at your shameful faux pax of notably not including anybutany
reference to ------ wait for it boys -------............ Anti-Seize.
Woulda been a Trifecta Post.  Next time would ya?

Now...  VERY much looking to the qSHIPq road-report Scotty I am.  Do
this now you will yes (Jedi Mind Trick).  Happy we will be.


	From: QSHIPQ at aol.com [mailto:QSHIPQ at aol.com] 
	Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 12:07 AM
	To: calvinlc at earthlink.net; Krasusky Paul (WQQ2PXK);
s-car-list at audifans.com; mpollan1 at aim.com
	Subject: Re: [s-cars] Installing Torsen diffs and disabling EDL
on a
	Ok... Torsen Boy is back from the 'boat....
	Calvin, I'm with you all the way, the reality is that the
electronics are catching up with the simple days of locking diffs....
It really boils down to driver training.  A good driver will be able to
outperform EDL and ESP because a drift *can* be better than none.  But
in a straight line, the combination of EDL, ESP, and TCS (throttle
control systems) is all but impossible to beat.  
	After a rousing 2 days at Steamboat, a well trained driver will
do better with a couple of locked diffs.  So much so, that a lowly
normally aspirated 4kq with locked diffs, was able to chase down all the
turbo cars on that track.  Sure in the straights (just like tarmac) I
got passed by all those big dogs, but that was only 2 turns of 10....  
	I'll also note that I took a ride in Pederson's q'wagon with the
rear bias center torsen center rear.  Seemed really twitchy to me, I
really believe that fighting a static understeer car with rear torque
bias, creates a bigger problem than it solves....  Even Mike P had his
hands full after so many of those world wide ice driving schools.
	It's new vs old school IMO.  I say the edge goes to electronics
in a straight line.  In a low/mixed mu surface like steamboat mimicking
the real winter world in which we drive, the old dual locker still holds
the prize for predictability.  Ride with Brendan or Chad however, you
can experience how a couple of nutballs can confuse all those
electronics and still give us locker boys a run for the money.
	My .02 arbitraged thru the peso
	S 'torsen boy' J

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