[s-cars] NAC - Can Anyone Run a VIN for Me?

Theodore Chen tedebearp at yahoo.com
Fri Jun 27 16:00:56 PDT 2008

is a hybrid really more environmentally friendly?  it may use less gasoline in city driving, but what about the environmental impact of its battery pack?

personally, i am hoping for an eco-friendly sports sedan or sports car soon.  it doesn't have to be particularly fast, but it needs to handle well and be fun to drive.  i realize that there are power and weight constraints with most eco-friendly alternatives, but i'd like a car that's not so aggressively boring as a prius, camry, etc.

----- Original Message ----
From: Douglas Fifield <douglas.fifield at gmail.com>
To: Joe Pizzimenti <joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com>
Cc: Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com>; Theodore Chen <tedebearp at yahoo.com>; s-car-list <s-car-list at audifans.com>
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:11:07 PM
Subject: Re: [s-cars] NAC - Can Anyone Run a VIN for Me?

Hopefully this will be the last nail in this particular coffin.

I knew when I posted this request that I would come under fire for
intimating that I would consider something as "ugly," "new-age,"
"slow," "scammish," or "foreign" as a Prius.  I was not disappointed,
or surprised, or hurt.  But I do want to say why I would expose myself
to this (since it is now the "weekend" for many of us and therefore
"light" topic fodder time.

My reason for considering a Prius, or any other high-mileage vehicle
is that we - all of us on this mudball - are facing a dwindling
resource.  I believe that I need to make a choice about that.  I tell
my children about conservation, but as any parent knows, kids don't
listen as much as they watch.  I need to change my personal use of

I am not giving up on the S6.  In fact, I am building a special,
high-ceilinged garage as part of the house remodel up in Duluth where
I hope to install a lift so I can work on the underside of Miss Piggey
in a safe manner.

But in terms of daily driving, I need something that uses less.

Some of you looked at this as a cost/benefit equation, which as a
project engineer, I fully support.  But that doesn't cover all of the
bases in this kind of decision.  I mostly want to use less gas than I
would with the Avant.  It's a great car and I love it, but if I can
double my gas mileage I want to do that.

I'm going to look at this used Prius and make a decision.  If I decide
not to bite, or if the owner decides not to accept my offer, I will
happily look at TDI offerings in the fall.

Have a good weekend dudes.

On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Joe Pizzimenti
<joe.pizzimenti at gmail.com> wrote:
> You already knew I was an asshole!  :)
> When it breaks down, I will sell it.  I don't keep daily drivers more than
> 24 months, usually.
> Don't talk to me about looks, I have an Evo, remember?
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 9:41 PM, Taka Mizutani <t44tqtro at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Did you ever see that South Park episode with the Prius?
>> Prius drivers are assholes. I guess if you're buying a Prius, you're an
>> asshole too. :-)
>> Otherwise, you're buying into the whole hybrid BS.
>> What are you going to do when that thing breaks down? At least with the
>> Jetta, I'll have no problem finding a mechanic that can fix it.
>> A few years down the road, when the Prius have gotten old, I wonder how
>> much it will cost to keep them on the road.
>> I forgot to mention- the Prius is fugly. Not that the Jetta is a
>> great-looking car (it's not), but the Prius is [barf].
>> Taka

Douglas in MN
95.5 Audi S//6 Avant
73 BMW R60/5 mit Toaster Tank

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