[s-cars] UPDATE: ACNA Gruppe Q Steamboat Ice Driving Experience

Young, Steve sryoung at trane.com
Fri Feb 6 18:41:54 PST 2009

Amen to that Dave.  Well said. 


Steven Young
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-----Original Message-----
From: s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com
[mailto:s-car-list-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf Of djdawson2 at aol.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 2:46 PM
To: qshipq at aol.com; pkrasusky at ups.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [s-cars] UPDATE: ACNA Gruppe Q Steamboat Ice Driving

 So... I'm a guy who should be considered at least 47 degrees removed
from this situation... but nonetheless, I must ask, since I've read the
various posts out of curiosity.

Is Bruce Bradigan the man who attended Urq25 last summer and made a
tearful appeal to the attendees to mend the fences with ACNA,
specifically the large quantity of Colorado attendees and RMC?? And if
so, is this how an attempt at doing so was rewarded?

Personally, I'm not a "club" guy for the simple reason that these things
often turn out the same way:? Some well intentioned folks come up with a
great idea about how to share and enjoy mutual interests.? Then it
evolves into someone (or small group) having the "need" to dictate *how*
that fun and enjoyment will occur, and ultimately wield some sort of
percieved power over the group.? Invariably, money usually gets
involved, and the whole things goes sideways.

This evolution ends up making the initial concept (cars) laughable, as
it ends up becoming the last thing on people's minds... as the
confrontation and struggle for control takes the main stage.? I gotta
say that I did see Scott extend at least 6 friendly invitations for Josh
to attend the party... and Peter C even offered to pick up the tab.?
Nope... those invites were never acknowledged, or any appreciation for
such offers shown.

What happened to the passion for cars?? Wasn't the goal to have fun with
our toys and enjoy the camaraderie?? Why all this BS?

Then you've got to consider the data points.? It could be argued that
this issue could be a private personality conflict between Scott and
Josh.? However, having been messing with Audis for about 11 years now,
and rubbing elbows with what I consider to be a substantial group of
hardcore enthusiasts in the Denver area.... it strikes me as a little
more than coincidental that the majority of these guys view the RMC as
abysmal... there must be *something* to it.

Finally... having also been personally engaged in some "heated" debates
with Scott J over the years (CAR issues), I am also fully aware that
every time I see him it involves a warm handshake and a smile...
followed by a lot of laughs.? In other words, our debates were viewed by
both of us (hopefully) to be both fun and constructive... and in no way
distracted our mutual enjoyment of automobiles and camaraderie.

In a nutshell... if those people in positions of leadership (ACNA/RMC)
can't put the fun and friendship on the front burner, than perhaps they
shouldn't be in those positions at all.



-----Original Message-----
From: qshipq at aol.com
To: pkrasusky at ups.com; s-car-list at audifans.com
Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:40 am
Subject: [s-cars] UPDATE:  ACNA Gruppe Q Steamboat Ice Driving

 Paulie et. al.
Back from a week at Steamboat,? hard program therapy trying to never
kick my ice habit.? I am also glad to see I can count on my Scar
comrades to keep up the cover fire in my absence.? A massive effort by
my team in Steamboat to keep my red-dot on the fun, not DWytes apparent
aversion to me having it.? 

Unfortunately too, my back to reality, includes bidding and unexpected
farewell this weekend to a close uncle who was my mentor in the passion
I hold for the very machines dancing on Ice.? I know he was smiling that
I needed to be airlifted from Steamboat to attend the celebration of his
life.? As such, I will need to issue a promissory note here to the now
famous annual qshipq Steamboat Event report.

That said, Paulie I appreciate some well worded sniper fire to Doc's
attempted insurgency.? Kudos my old friend.? To keep you all well
entertained, it would appear DWyte called for backup, as Audiworld has
it's first posts from the new ACNA President Bruce Bradigan.? Hail Mary,
and god help the man...? For direct link to that JNR thread, start with
this post....


Without forgetting DWyte's futile attempt to ambush me here, while I was
having fun in Steamboat....


As DWyte is finding out, I'm all up for banter, games and chess.? And
always considered the amature attempts to cancel my event to be...? Free
That is, until the moves made by he as representing the Board of Rocky
Mountain Chapter, decided to rush the front line.? My best hope is that
he finds me only a well seasoned adversary in the game of internet

Again Gents, appreciate the support.? I will post my Event Report on my
return next week.

Best to all the JNR folks here.


Scott J
ACNA Gruppe-q Steamboat Ice Driving Experience 2009


-----Original Message-----
From: pkrasusky at ups.com
To: s-car-list at audifans.com; qshipq at aol.com
Cc: docwyte at comcast.net
Sent: Mon, 2 Feb 2009 1:37 pm
Subject: RE:  ACNA Gruppe Q Steamboat Ice Driving Experience


Scotty Howitz'd:


<<<Message: 7

Date: Mon, 02 Feb 2009 13:50:03 -0500

From: qshipq at aol.com

Subject: Re: [s-cars] ACNA Gruppe Q Steamboat Ice Driving Experience

To: qshipq at aol.com, s-car-list at audifans.com


Gents for the lastest on correcting Rocky Mountain ACNA Chapter Board
Member Josh Wyte's misleading statements below, grab a cup of coffee and
go here.




I'm sure Pizzo, Paulie and our usual miscreants on this list will enjoy
bantering and? sport of it all....


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