[s-cars] S Car values
t44tqtro at gmail.com
Tue Jul 28 15:36:58 PDT 2009
You can't buy a used TDI with the govt. incentive.
I wasn't sure if you were aware of that.
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:22 PM, David Kase <dkase at dorma-usa.com> wrote:
> Good points of information. Almost makes me wish my third car was 5k
> instead of an S6. I've been eyeing up used TDI's for the past few
> months and would probably own one if they had decent rear leg room.
> From: jvantol at gmail.com [mailto:jvantol at gmail.com] On Behalf Of Joshua
> Van Tol
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> Cc: David Kase; theringmeister at triad.rr.com; jerryscott at wispertel.net;
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> Subject: Re: [s-cars] S Car values
> As a data point here I've got a 1987 5kcstq that I'm trading for $4500
> off of a new Jetta TDI. That car hasn't been worth that much in at least
> 10 years, it's a very good deal for certain people. My vw dealer, and a
> couple others I've talked to say that it's not lower income folks taking
> advantage of this. Rather it's middle income thrifty types who have a
> second or third car as a spare.
> As a means of stimulating the economy, it's pretty direct.
> BTW, much of that "prius isn't green" stuff is made up lies. At one
> point the "fact" that a prius was more environmentally costly than a
> hummer was out there. It just isn't true. Now a Jetta TDI vs a prius?
> I'd wager the Jetta wins, and is a much nicer car to drive to boot. But
> there's a place for the prius. If I were doing stop and go city driving
> I'd seriously consider it, as the 51 mpg city is very hard to beat, but
> I have a 90% highway 60 mile (total) commute each day, and the TDI will
> do very well on that, plus it's a darn nice car.
> As for economics, I'm sure the Obama team has heard of the Laffer curve,
> but if I'm not mistaken, the current consensus on that idea is that it's
> a gross simplification. I'm not a fan of every thing Obama has done, or
> will likely do, but this isn't a particularly terrible piece of
> legislation. It stimulates the sales of new cars, and gets some unsafe
> and fuel inefficient cars off the road. The cars are not completely
> destroyed, the salvage yards are allowed to re-sell some parts of the
> car, just not the "long block", and the car must ultimately be crushed
> or shredded.
> Anyone who really wants to know the details of the program should go to
> www.cars.gov. The complete rules are posted there, in more detail than
> you'll care to read, including the exact procedure for destroying the
> engine, the paperwork required to prevent fraud, the amount of funds
> allowed to be used for administrative purposes ($50m out of $1b), etc.
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 12:09 PM, <djdawson2 at aol.com> wrote:
> You guys are all making too much sense.
> Give a guy $4500 towards buying a new car that the buyer can't afford.?
> Good stuff.? Makes no sense.
> "Green?"? Yeah, I see that everyday in my work too.? "Green" fleets, and
> the promotion of hybrid vehicles.? The Prius is the biggest joke I've
> ever seen.? It is probably the most non-green thing on the road.? But
> the percetion of green is all that matters to our politicians.? Why
> bother to go out and do a study on how devastating the creation and
> disposal of a hybrid is to our environment?? All I care about is
> emissions and fuel mileage.
> I do wonder when our government will start making sense.? It seems to
> have taken a major turn for the worse as of late.
> Economics... I wonder if Obama has ever heard of the Laffer Curve?
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