[torsen] [ba] FW: [ADMIN] Attention AOL users

jshadzi at aol.com jshadzi at aol.com
Sun Mar 5 14:23:08 EST 2006


I agree, it wouldn't surprise me if at least 50-95% of all internet email traffic was SPAM, imagine analyzing your overhead costs as AOL and realizing that 50-95% of your infrastructure was dedicated to sending spam to people who didn't want it.
 
Javad, enjoying his last 30 days as an AOL user  =)
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Chris Maresca <ckm at crust.net>
To: Buchholz, Steven <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
Cc: torsen at audifans.com; BA quattro <ba-group at audifans.com>
Sent: Fri, 3 Mar 2006 12:57:49 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: [ba] FW: [ADMIN] Attention AOL users



Luckly I run my own mail server....  And my DSL provider (speakeasy)
encourages setting up your own whatever server.

But still, annoying none the less, although you can blame these guys from
trying to deal with the spam problem.  That's who we should really blame,
spammers.  I suggest public hangings.

Chris.

On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Buchholz, Steven wrote:

> ... forwarding from Brett ...
> 
> BTW, it seems to me setting up a free account with Yahoo, gmail ... or
> even hawaii.com ... is one way around this situation ... 
> 
> Steve
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > Brett Dikeman
> > Sent: Friday, March 03, 2006 11:03 AM
> > To: Quattro
> > Cc: V8 List; List Urq; s-car-list at audifans.com; 200q20v List
> > Subject: [urq] Attention AOL users
> > 
> > In the coming month AOL will be requiring bulk email senders to
> > certify themselves with Goodlink's CertifiedEmail system.  It is not
> > precisely clear what kinds of email traffic will require the sender
> > to pay what basically amounts to a "yes, we'll deliver your email"
> > bribe, nor is it clear how our ability to send email to AOL users
> > will be affected.
> > 
> > If it comes down to Audifans having to pay to send AOL users mail, or
> > dropping all AOL addresses, I think you can guess which way the ball
> > will roll.  I suggest finding a new internet service provider in the
> > next 30 days if you wish to guarantee you will be able to receive ANY
> > mailing list mail (ie, not just Audifans), or simply do it on
> > principle.  You'll be voting with your wallet against an attempt to
> > impose a class system onto what has been a free communications
> > medium.  This is a very dangerous path- Yahoo is rumored to have
> > signed up with Goodlink as well, and if they do- other ISPs and
> > webmail providers will most likely follow.
> > 
> > Groups like Audifans already face challenges when it comes to running
> > a mailing list service.  An increasing number of mail servers block
> > ANY dynamic IP address ranges at internet service providers, and most
> > if not all Internet Service Providers prohibit ANY type of server
> > (mail, web, etc) from running off their service.  Some specifically
> > ban mailing lists and discussion boards.  Not so scary when you think
> > about car enthusiast mailing lists.  More scary when you think about
> > lists for organizing citizen, consumer, or employee action, protest,
> > etc.  The government isn't the biggest challenge to your free speech
> > rights when it comes to the internet. The corporate world is.
> > 
> > This will just be another nail in the coffin.  You can help pull that
> > nail out by supporting local internet service providers, instead of
> > forking over cast to a giant, useless dinosaur like AOL.  It may take
> > a little digging, but chances are you can find a local dialup or DSL
> > provider in your area; some towns and cities even have co-op style
> > internet service providers.
> > 
> > Brett
> > 
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