[urq] Problems with my 83
brogers at terrix.com
Mon Mar 7 11:32:38 EST 2005
If you do see a few new drops after each drive - my logic tells me you have
a leak while the motor is running - and it goes away at shut down when the
----- Original Message -----
From: <klettn at cae.wisc.edu>
To: "SpotatAshleys" <spotatashleys at hotmail.com>
Cc: <urq at audifans.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2005 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [urq] Problems with my 83
If you mean when I lift off of the gas? No it does not smoke. There is a
black (sooty looking) color to the exhaust at idle. Generally, when the car
sits in the garage over night there is a little oil on the ground, but it is
only a few drops. Appears to be coming from around the oil pan.
Now the true dilemma, should I work with what I have (i.e. fix the current
problems: wiring, oil cunsumption, turbo rebuilt, etc.) or should I
new/different challenges by going with an engine swap? I have been reading a
bit about swapping the 91 200tq 20v motor and have considered this option.
Quoting SpotatAshleys <spotatashleys at hotmail.com>:
> Don't worry about the lights. a) that's the least of your worries right
> b) that's just the way they are. Rubbish. eventually you'll probably rig
> a relay with power direct from the battery to get around the huge voltage
> drop in the stock wiring set-up.
> Re: oil usage. If you have good compression it suggests it's not rings,
> you certainly have either v.rich mixture or loads of oit getting in to
> combustion chamber or both. Does it smoke when you lift off? . Are you
> there are no pools of oil under it when parked?
> Re: 15psi boost - sounds like ECU has had the zener diode mod and a 1bar
> wastegate spring fitted. That in itself should cause you no problems. The
> oil consumption is more fundamental. Certainly check all the crankcase
> ventilation pipes to make sure it is all venting as it should and not
> Try all the simply/ cheap things first. There is loads of stuff in the
> Archive, loads on various sites of contributors to the List.
> Don't give up on the car. You will sort it. They ARE wonderful and it will
> all have been worth it.
> Good luck
> '87 WR
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <klettn at cae.wisc.edu>
> To: "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>
> Cc: <urq at audifans.com>
> Sent: Thursday, March 03, 2005 9:56 PM
> Subject: RE: [urq] Problems with my 83
> > Not sure how long the plugs were in the car (they were in when I bought
> it), but
> > the ones I put in were black almost immediatelty. I'm not very familiar
> with the
> > I5 so I'm not sure if the "knocking" is because of the solid lifter
> needing an
> > adjustment or??, but I wouldn't call the sound a pinging. The boost
> > gage
> > is in the car says I'm at about 15psi (seperate gage below the radio).
> > The
> > said that there was some modifications done to the ECU (i.e. a chip of
> > One other note, the wiring on the car has been completely molested and
> > electric components are not working (wipers have 1 speed, lights are dim
> > best and are always on high, seat heaters not functional, etc.).
> > Quoting "Buchholz, Steven" <Steven.Buchholz at kla-tencor.com>:
> > > ... compression sounds very good, but those spark plugs are very bad!
> > > How long have they been in the engine? Are you having a problem with
> > > pinging? What sort of boost are you running? Do you know if your car
> > > (specifically engine and ECU) is stock or has it been modified?
> > >
> > > The oil consumption may well be explained by turbo seals ... when I
> > > had
> > > this on my car there was no outward sign of an oil leak when I pulled
> > > the turbo. I think your only option is to have it rebuilt and
> > > reinstall
> > > ... and hope this fixes the problem. Another possibility is that
> > > you've
> > > got liquid oil coming back through the crankcase vent system ... you
> > > can
> > > check this by pulling the hose that goes from the valve cover back to
> > > the intake and see if you can see liquid oil pooled there. I don't
> > > think that this could explain a 1qt/300mi usage though!
> > >
> > > Steve B
> > > San Jose, CA (USA)
> > > >
> > > > Hi, I'm hoping that someone might be able to help me out. I
> > > > have an 83 that I
> > > > bought about 6 months ago as a "running" project car, but it
> > > > turned out that
> > > > the car burned way too much oil to continue driving(about 1
> > > > qt/300 miles). The
> > > > car would smoke blueish/black upon accel. So I was trying to check
> > > > the
> > > > compression in order to determine if that could explain where
> > > > some of the oil
> > > > was going. The compression was (from front to back) 125,
> > > > 115, 115, 115, 110,
> > > > which from what I understand isn't too bad, but the plugs
> > > > looked terrible
> > > > (check links below).
> > > >
> > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/klettn/Dsc00201.jpg
> > > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/klettn/Dsc00202.jpg
> > > >
> > > > I put new plugs in and they were black (lots of carbon) with
> > > > in about 5 miles.
> > > > Someone on the tex thought I might be loosing oil through the
> > > > turbo so I
> > > > currently have that off. There is a bit of play and I am
> > > > thinking about a
> > > > rebuild, but it didn't seem to explain the missing oil. So
> > > > now I have a car with
> > > > the turbo pulled, burns/looses oil, and the plugs that burn
> > > > up. I love the car,
> > > > but I am not sure what direction to go. Any suggestions would
> > > > be great thanks
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