[urq] 80's Audi were Below average in NHTSA crash test . Audi A4 bumpers are well rated

Ingo Rautenberg ingo.rautenberg at gmail.com
Fri Aug 17 17:30:59 EDT 2007

Actually, they were also on the V8 and with airbags.  Plus I believe  
the Ur S-cars also had it...

On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:05 PM, steven j wrote:

> I've been looking at the NHTSA crash tests since they
> came out in about 1979.   The 1985-ish Audi 5000 got a
> horrible crash rating.  With the steering rack on the
> firewall and that 5cyl going to the bumper the
> steering wheel was pushed back in a crash delivering a
> punch to the drivers head.  The 4000's tested at the
> time were just the 4cyls - and the results weren't as
> bad as the 5000, probably because the missing cylinder
> allowed  an extra 5 inches before it started pushing
> the steering rack back.  One would imagine a 5cyl in
> the type 85 would be worse than the 5000 crash test.
> Of course if you have an offset crash - and the engine
> doesn't get pushed back - the car is probably fine.
> For around 1989 Audi introduced PRO-CON-TEN in the 100
> and 200 where cables push the engine forward in a
> crash and those cars cut driver head injury to low
> levels.
> I think when airbags came the pro-con-ten cables might
> not have been installed, but they were on the 100/200
> only.   Feel free to correct me on details.
> --- Ed Kellock <ekellock at gmail.com> wrote:
>> ISTR that the 4k series cars were one of the highest
>> rated chassis of
>> their time in crashworthiness.
>> Ed
>> On 8/16/07, LL - NY <larrycleung at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Having seen some of the Type 85's in the wrecking
>> yard, I'd venture a guess
>>> that
>>> you didn't go "straight in" in your accident. The
>> 4K's passenger compartment
>>> seems to buckle in a header, at least based upon
>> empirical forensic analysis
>>> at the wrecking yard, I think you were lucky.
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