[urq] urq Digest, Vol 48, Issue 17

[Todd Phenneger]

Sorry Roman,

I re-read your message.  I did mis-read it.

Is it really two LONG days from Chicago to Jackson.  I can get from Chicago
to Spokane Washington in one day.   Anyhow, I hear you on the East coast
thing.  

I'd like to know how many people from the East Coast would come to Denver.
Its closer but still a long drive.  Ultimately, if we find 5-urq's on the
East Coast that would drive but they only will drive 1-day, even Denver is
out.  

I guess we need to post
3-4 Options for Places
What dates those would be.

Then have a poll.


> From: Roman <klodzko at hotmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 13 Oct 2007 21:32:44 -0500
> To: 'Todd Phenneger' <tquattroguy at yahoo.com>, 'urq list' <urq at audifans.com>
> Subject: RE: [urq] urq Digest, Vol 48, Issue 17
> 
> Todd,
> 
> I know exactly where Jackson is, been there 2 times already skiing with
> friends and family. I said "driving from East coast would be painful"
> thinking about friends and other, URQ owners who would love to be there as
> well. 
> Driving from Chicago is a "long" 2 days trip, so, for guys from NY would be
> another, extra day.... Love this place so much, don't get me wrong is just
> too far away from Chicago. We should create a list with few, very interested
> places (Jackson, Kansas, Denver etc..) posted and asked URQ owners to
> "check" the location/locations which they could drive too. We could see
> which one would be the most attended one and then we should stay with it. I
> would rather go to last interesting place and meet a lot of URQ owners than
> have a nice location with only "few" URQ's...
> This is just my opinion...
> 
> Regards,
> Roman W. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Todd Phenneger [mailto:tquattroguy at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 2:09 PM
> To: Roman; urq list
> Subject: Re: [urq] urq Digest, Vol 48, Issue 17
> 
> Roman,
> I think your mistaken about where Jackson is.  Its not on the East Coast.
> Its Due South of Western Montana on the North Western corner of Wyoming.
> 
> Just an FYI.  For you from Chicago I would think Denver or Wyoming would be
> do able but Denver is definitely closer.  You could PROBABLY do that
> non-stop if you had a driving partner.  Otherwise you'd need a sleepover
> spot.
> 
> 
>> From: Roman <klodzko at hotmail.com>
>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:59:10 -0500
>> To: <urq at audifans.com>
>> Subject: [urq] urq Digest, Vol 48, Issue 17
>> 
>> We would like to be a part of 2008 UPG (myself and my friend) but no more
>> than a day drive from Chicago. Yes, I'm sure Jackson Hole it's a beautiful
>> place to meet but driving from Chicago or East cost will be painful.
>> 
>> Roman W.
>> 
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>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>    1. MC-2 Conversion Update (Ben Swann)
>>    2. Re: MC-2 Conversion Update (urq)
>>    3. Re: UPG 2008 Planning (urq)
>>    4. Re: UPG 2008 Planning (Michael Hopton)
>>    5. Re: UPG 2008 Planning (Brandon Rogers)
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 00:04:08 -0400
>> From: "Ben Swann" <benswann at comcast.net>
>> Subject: [urq] MC-2 Conversion Update
>> To: <urq at pacbell.net>
>> Cc: 'urq list' <urq at audifans.com>
>> Message-ID: <006301c80c84$f0a32820$6701a8c0 at swansong>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Steve,
>> 
>> I just sent you an abbreviated version if the wiring file.  LMK if you got
>> it alright.
>> I need to puyt all this on website, but havn't had time.
>> 
>> If you are not using the WX intake, grind the boss behind the Throttle
> flat
>> and drill
>> and tap holes for the sensor - this will duplicate the same way the urq
> has
>> the sensor
>> mounted.  I recommend using the WX intake as it will facilitate plumbing
> the
>> intercooler
>> better and fits EFI fuel rail better.
>> 
>> I think you will do better with the later oil cooler as it is less
>> convoluted and fits
>> better - just need to find the right fittings.  I'm still working on that
>> myself and
>> currently have a bypass in place.
>> 
>> Here is a link to intake diagram with regulator mod:
>> http://www.gtquattro.com/files/Vacuum5kt.jpg
>> 
>> All for now - difficult typing with large bandage on index finger.:0
>> 
>> Ben
>> 
>> [Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT)
>> From: urq <urq at pacbell.net>
>> Subject: [urq]  MC-2 Conversion Update
>> To: urq at audifans.com
>> Message-ID: <303052.76013.qm at web82804.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>> 
>> Hopefully DA222 has the engine out ... so we know what got screwed up with
>> the clutch
>> .. I'll check by later today.  I have a line on a flywheel in Ohio, still
>> hoping to
>> find something local.
>> 
>> I think I've got the wiring interconnections to make the engine run
> figured
>> out ...
>> there are only a handful of connections that need to be made ... and that
>> will even make
>> the ISV functional.
>> 
>> I have the fuel distributor plate from the MC bolted on to the WX airbox
>> cover.  The
>> igloo fits right over the MC-2's airflow sensor funnel just fine.  I
> haven't
>> spent much
>> time figuring out the fuel plumbing, but since the fuel distributor seems
> to
>> have the
>> same fittings in the same locations, worst case I can swap the WX lines
> onto
>> the MC FD.
>> 
>> 
>> Since I'm using the MC's intake manifold and the urq intercooler I'll need
>> to find a
>> place to attach the intake air temp sensor.  Anyone have any
>> recommendations?  I have an
>> intercooler that came from an urS6 which looks similar in size to the WX
> ..
>> and it
>> appears to have a port for the temp sensor.  I think I'll take it along
> just
>> to try it
>> out.  
>> 
>> I'm having secong thoughts on the oil cooler.  The MC has different
>> attachments, so I'm
>> thinking it might be better to try to mount the MC cooler in the WX
>> location.  Any BTDT
>> on whether or not it makes sense to try to mix and match?
>> 
>> Probably the biggest outstanding item is the intake plumbing.  What will I
>> use to
>> connect the outlet of the intercooler to the throttle body?  How am I
> going
>> to plumb all
>> the vacuum lines for all the functions that need them ... ISV, WGFV,
>> Crankacse Vent,
>> vapor recovery, etc?  I found a drawing in the 200 manual and one in the
> IST
>> and will
>> see what I can noodle from them.  Here again the goal is to make it look
>> like the
>> drawing on the hood ...
>> 
>> Steve B
>> San Jose, CA (USA)]
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:14:41 -0700
>> From: "urq" <urq at pacbell.net>
>> Subject: Re: [urq] MC-2 Conversion Update
>> To: "'urq list'" <urq at audifans.com>
>> Message-ID: <026601c80c8e$cc423700$64c6a500$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> Thanks Ben!  We're planning to do exactly what you suggested for the IAT
> ..
>> the IM already has the flat spot on the casting, so the drill and tap
> should
>> be easy.  
>> 
>> I really appreciate the comment on the IM ... I'm using the MC IM for now
> to
>> get the air shrouded injectors, but I'll be sure to keep my old IM for
> when
>> I do the EFI.  
>> 
>> BTW, I saw an EFI'ed MC in an urq ... it was Al's car with 034EFI, but I
> was
>> pleasantly surprised to see how stock it looked.  I thought it was going
> to
>> stick out like a sore thumb!  I've also got to say it sure is nice to see
>> how quick that EFI'ed motor starts when cold, and how smooth it idles!
>> 
>> Steve B
>> San Jos?, CA (USA)
>> 
>> _____________________________________________
>> 
>> 
>> If you are not using the WX intake, grind the boss behind the Throttle
> flat
>> and drill and tap holes for the sensor - this will duplicate the same way
>> the urq has the sensor mounted.  I recommend using the WX intake as it
> will
>> facilitate plumbing the intercooler better and fits EFI fuel rail better.
>> 
>> I think you will do better with the later oil cooler as it is less
>> convoluted and fits better - just need to find the right fittings.  I'm
>> still working on that myself and currently have a bypass in place.
>> 
>> Here is a link to intake diagram with regulator mod:
>> http://www.gtquattro.com/files/Vacuum5kt.jpg
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 3
>> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2007 22:51:55 -0700
>> From: "urq" <urq at pacbell.net>
>> Subject: Re: [urq] UPG 2008 Planning
>> To: <urq at audifans.com>
>> Message-ID: <027501c80c93$ff8aee40$fea0cac0$@net>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> I agree Ed, when we got this ball started the goal was to try to make
>> something work that will allow the maximum number of owners and fans
> attend
>> .. hearing some east coast participants not being able to do Jackson Hole
>> makes it a non-starter in my book.  It really sounds like Colorado doesn't
>> meet the criteria either.
>> 
>> Kansas City ... every time I hear that town I think of the quote from one
> of
>> my favorite movies ... "I left my Jag in Kansas City." ... Richard Prior
>> from Silver Streak.  Funny, there's a clip in that movie where Richard and
>> Gene are driving the XKE across the plains ... reminds me of my own jaunts
>> in the urq ... Gawd I love the open road!  Hey if KC is a place that the
>> folks from the right coast can have a better chance of making, I say let's
>> talk.  I have a friend who moved out there years ago ... not an Audi fan,
>> but he's definitely a car nut ... he might have some suggestions about
>> locations that would be scenic and offer driving opportunities.  Seems to
> me
>> we could look farther north too ... Fargo perhaps?  :-)  There are a whole
>> bunch of urqs north of the US border ... we should be able to accommodate
>> them too, eh?  {Mum's a Newfie so I can make those kind of jokes :}
>> 
>> Funny, I was thinking summer time for the meeting, mostly for school for
> the
>> daughter, but they do have a couple weeks off in the springtime, I might
> be
>> able to swing one of those times to do a UPG ...
>> 
>> Steve B
>> San Jos?, CA (USA)
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> I guess I'm not sure about locale though.  The original goal is/was to
>> have one gathering.  This would be a huge event if we could get the
>> more distant people to bite the bullet and come.  That's why being
>> centrally located is so important.  More important I think than it
>> being a cool destination in/of itself.
>> 
>> Jackson Hole doesn't really fit the bill then in my opinion.  Denver
>> is fine with me but more of a haul for those east than say, Omaha,
>> which is very much more centrally located geographically.  And there's
>> a track there we could play on, which is something that Denver can't
>> currently offer.  Off-track driving opportunites would probably be far
>> superior in Denver, but fraught with big-city commute problems.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 4
>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:22:05 -0400
>> From: "Michael Hopton" <Michael at siliconoptix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [urq] UPG 2008 Planning
>> To: "urq" <urq at pacbell.net>, <urq at audifans.com>
>> Message-ID:
>> 
>> <68C36A3D85B9EE418A36CAD709CA60D804360E4F at tor-exch1.silicon-video.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>> 
>> I'm in if it is in Kansas City, or there abouts.
>> 
>> cheers, Mike
>> 
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> 
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 09:28:47 -0600
>> From: "Brandon Rogers" <brogers at terrix.com>
>> Subject: Re: [urq] UPG 2008 Planning
>> To: "'urq'" <urq at pacbell.net>, <urq at audifans.com>
>> Message-ID: <001501c80ce4$965d68c0$2c01a8c0 at BCROGERS>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>> 
>> If something happens in say Kansas City - We could make Colorado a
>> rallying point, certainly provide some accomodations - and than all
>> caravan to Kansas City.  Less than one full day drive from here.  That
>> could be super cool.
>> 
>> Brandon
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
>> Behalf Of urq
>> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:52 PM
>> To: urq at audifans.com
>> Subject: Re: [urq] UPG 2008 Planning
>> 
>> 
>> I agree Ed, when we got this ball started the goal was to try to make
>> something work that will allow the maximum number of owners and fans
>> attend ... hearing some east coast participants not being able to do
>> Jackson Hole makes it a non-starter in my book.  It really sounds like
>> Colorado doesn't meet the criteria either.
>> 
>> Kansas City ... every time I hear that town I think of the quote from
>> one of my favorite movies ... "I left my Jag in Kansas City." ...
>> Richard Prior from Silver Streak.  Funny, there's a clip in that movie
>> where Richard and Gene are driving the XKE across the plains ... reminds
>> me of my own jaunts in the urq ... Gawd I love the open road!  Hey if KC
>> is a place that the folks from the right coast can have a better chance
>> of making, I say let's talk.  I have a friend who moved out there years
>> ago ... not an Audi fan, but he's definitely a car nut ... he might have
>> some suggestions about locations that would be scenic and offer driving
>> opportunities.  Seems to me we could look farther north too ... Fargo
>> perhaps?  :-)  There are a whole bunch of urqs north of the US border
>> .. we should be able to accommodate them too, eh?  {Mum's a Newfie so I
>> can make those kind of jokes :}
>> 
>> Funny, I was thinking summer time for the meeting, mostly for school for
>> the daughter, but they do have a couple weeks off in the springtime, I
>> might be able to swing one of those times to do a UPG ...
>> 
>> Steve B
>> San Jos?, CA (USA)
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> 
>> I guess I'm not sure about locale though.  The original goal is/was to
>> have one gathering.  This would be a huge event if we could get the more
>> distant people to bite the bullet and come.  That's why being centrally
>> located is so important.  More important I think than it being a cool
>> destination in/of itself.
>> 
>> Jackson Hole doesn't really fit the bill then in my opinion.  Denver is
>> fine with me but more of a haul for those east than say, Omaha, which is
>> very much more centrally located geographically.  And there's a track
>> there we could play on, which is something that Denver can't currently
>> offer.  Off-track driving opportunites would probably be far superior in
>> Denver, but fraught with big-city commute problems.
>> 
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