[urq] UPG 2008
martin at quattro.ca
Tue Oct 23 12:43:34 PDT 2007
No I didn't misunderstand, I am not interested in anything else other than
meating other Ur-q owners and seeing all of these cars in one place.
Going for a small drive (since getting there is one in itself). That's all.
Car events... I think there is enough of track days and other events
elswhere that we do not need it at a UPG event.
Just my personal opinion.
> Ingo Rautenberg
> I think you misunderstand what Scott was pointing out. Not Indy as
> in the race at Indy, but as a venue and one just for us Urq freaks.
> Totally just for us, including road rallies, autocross, fun get
> together. No Outside race.
> On Oct 23, 2007, at 3:22 PM, Martin Pajak wrote:
>> I have to disagree.. another event like Indy would just take away
>> from the
>> purpose of this gathering.
>> This is why I loved the events at Felixes. A nice quiet venue with
>> no one
>> else around but Ur-quattro freaks.
>> One weekend is not a long time, especially if you have to drive all
>> way there.. to piggyback another event is just not worth it. I
>> would not
>> be interested in anything else other than talking with the guys and
>> getting to know them as "friends" rather than pay attention to
>> Don't get me wrong, Steamboat etc etc, those events have their time
>> place. Us CDN guys do the Mosport weekend for the AMLS jsut to
>> have an
>> "excuse". A UPG even should remain an Ur-q only event with no other
>> Just my $0.02 CDN with is now on par with $0.02 US :)
>> Martin Pajak
>>> QSHIPQ at aol.com
>>> To a very seasoned choir you vainly attempt to preach, my old
>>> friend! I
>>> on a Steamboat Ice Event in your state every year for 6 years
>>> now, been
>>> going for 15, straight thru drive, and in the worst quattro weather
>>> That doesn't include the events I saw you at, that you mention of 10
>>> ago! I can't think of a better reason for a migration from the west
>>> coast than
>>> 25 years of the urq being stateside.
>>> In asking folks for that commitment, 'what else can we do' is the
>>> (excuse) of gathering these cars in one place. I don't have to ask
>>> Riley if he's going to Steamboat again this year from Orlando
>>> (2000 miles
>>> the family 1 way), I just need to give him the dates. I don't
>>> have to
>>> ask him
>>> if he'd make it to an ur-qfest in 2008, only when and where. I
>>> say you
>>> half or more of your participants anywhere USA if you give an ur-
>>> impression that the only point is to gather these cars in one place.
>>> Sell the value of the what and how, the value of the where will
>>> advocate Indy because what else is available to car enthusiast
>>> have a better host city. And, the value in the other activities
>>> is that
>>> don't have to originate logistics, venues and activities, only
>>> edit/copy/edit/paste other successful events there.
>>> I am happy to volunteer being Eventmaster at an Indy venue, after
>>> Steamboat 2008. Jim, I didn't think twice about going to Monterey
>>> in 99,
>>> because it was 100 years of quattro. 25 years of urq, I'd do it
>>> tomorrow. I
>>> say use a proven friendly car group venue where help is a host
>>> city is
>>> constable tolerant, and the city amenities seasoned and
>>> enthusiastic to
>>> the cause.
>>> IMO, that limits your choices more than preconceived participant
>>> Scott Justusson
>>> In a message dated 10/23/2007 12:05:37 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
>>> ekellock at gmail.com writes:
>>> I don't see Indianapolis as even remotely "centrally located".
>>> it's damn-near a 2-day drive from Denver. That pretty much excludes
>>> the west coasters.
>>> I really feel like far too much emphasis is being placed on "what
>>> we can do there". The point is to gather these cars in one place.
>>> I'm pretty well located for just about any venue that is truly
>>> centrally located so I am only advocating locations that seem to
>>> the best possiblity of drawing the most cars from all of North
>>> America. It will be more of a hike for some, no matter where we go.
>>> Ten years ago when we did the 2 Audifests, I lived in SC. It was 2
>>> long days driving for me each way. We managed to have various
>>> meet-ups along the way to the even which made the overall experience
>>> that much better. For the 1st one in '97 I had just started a new
>>> job and could not take vacation. Back then they still ran the
>>> race on
>>> July 4th and it fell midweek so I had a long weekend. I was only in
>>> Colorado for about 36 hours before I had to bail back to SC. So I
>>> know what is on store for someone who's far away.
>>> It is what it is. If you value the primary objective, it needs
>>> to be
>>> central, whether that's convenient or not. Moab, Indy, Yellowstone
>>> just don't cut it. Very cool places to go, but they'll likely cut
>>> coastal attendance by half or more.
>>> Just my 2 cents worth.
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