[urq] Chicago performance benchmarks for mildly tweeked WX urq

Tue Sep 11 09:21:24 PDT 2007

I have a feeling this car will be in CO come February - and probably
will look no different than it does now...'cept it'll be driving
sideways..

Brandon

-----Original Message-----
From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On
Behalf Of Steve Mills
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 7:15 AM
To: urq at audifans.com
Subject: Re: [urq] Chicago performance benchmarks for mildly tweeked WX
urq

I still can't believe we found enough parts for Scott to attempt the
drive home. I'm even more incredulous that he actually made it.

I contacted Scott to do some digging on the car's background after I
bought it from Ben and discovered that Scott had a rust-free 85 sitting
in his driveway, which is what I was really looking for. Someone (I
blame Scott ;-)
) then jumped to the conclusion that we could do a trade- all we had to
do is get the 83 running well enough so that Scott could drive the 85
out to Annapolis and the 83 back to Chicago.

It bears mentioning that I had only circled the car a couple of times
and concluded "yup, too rusty, good parts car" when we hatched this
particular master plan- I hadn't even looked underneath yet. The areas
that ended up making the thrash to get it road worthy really sporty were
the rear brakes, gas tank, and exhaus, which were all billed as
"disconnected" by the PO when he flat bedded it to Ben's. However, in
this case "disconnected" turned out to mean "missing, along with many
critical and difficult to find attaching parts". Some highlights:

Brakes: The car had a total of one carrier, one rotor, and one carrier
bolt in the rear. Fortunately, I had a freshly rebuilt set of the vented
calipers & carriers that I'd picked up for my S6. I picked up new
rotors, and Scott managed to scrounge another three bolts from Ben's
various stores. Suddenly, the rear brakes are waaayyyy to nice compared
to the rest of the car. Oh well, at least that end will stop.

Gas tank- As Ben mentions, the tank was completely out of the car, and
neither of the brackets to hold it in the trunk were anywhere to be
found. I got 4KQ brackets someone parting a car locally, which got us
from zero to 3 out of 4 bolts on each side- close enough. It was also
missing the gasket that keeps gas from pouring into the trunk if you
overfill the tank, and probably still is.

Exhaust: The car had a downpipe and cat, period. Somehow Ben found a
complete OE UrQ exhaust setup among his spares, along with enough
gaskets and hardware to connect it all up. I managed to source new
hangers in time for Scott's scheduled departure.

Engine: To my inexperienced eye, it looked like half the standard engine
compartment stuff had been stripped out. Phone consultation with Scott
revealed that he'd pulled most of the missing stuff himself, and all we
were really short was a coil. Some fresh gas, a bit of starter fluid,
and it roared to life (really roared- no exhaust yet) on the first try.
It ran and idled amazingly well, especially since Scott told me he later
found that most of the critical vacuum lines had been randomly cut and
left open. I think he used half his spare hardware plugging vacuum lines
on the drive back.

Driveline: The center bearing was (and evidently still is) shot. When I
showed up from one of many parts runs, Ben had just handed a big tube of
silicone sealer that Scott proceeded to spooge into the bigger gaps in
the disintegrating rubber. I distinctly remember thinking "Hmm, doesn't
that stuff take 24 hours to cure, and isn't Scott planning to depart in
about 4?"

Interior: The headliner and everything it touches was out of the car,
all carpeting and liners were out of the trunk, and there was a pretty
big box of random interior parts (sun visors, grab handles, etc.) that
had 2 or 3 of some things and none of others. Again, parts magically
appeared from unlikely sites around Ben's compound, and the interior
went back together.

Body: The car spent most of it's life in the cold and salty North, and
it showed. The hood, trunk lid, and rockers were the most affected. Ben
had good T red parts for the bolt on stuff, so we swapped them. It
definitely looked better (at sufficient distance) before the swap, but
it was a lot more distinctive after.  I'm still worried Scott could slam
the door and suddenly be sitting on the ground atop the modest mound of
rust that used to be the front floor, but it wasn't bad enough to bind
the doors, so....

Best of luck with the car Scott, and keep us posted on the General's
progress. It's quite the ride- I can't imagine there are any other UrQs
out there that can compare on many different levels.

On 9/11/07, Ben Swann <benswann at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The amazing thing about this car is it had been sitting for god knows 
> how long - I had it here for a year and no fuel tank in the car.
>
> Scott came up and we along with Steve mills, put it back together, 
> located a coil and it pretty much fired right up.  Scott drove it home

> from Annapolis.
> I don't know if he did the JNR stuff on the way, but wouldn't be
> surprised.
>
> If that car does 5.8 0-60, what do you think mine  repowered to 2.5 
> bar and EFI will do?  AACo.  Police man pulled up behind me tonight 
> and asked if everything was allright.  Yes sir officer - just using my

> laptop to tune the
> new engine I put in my car!
>
> Ben
>
> [Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2007 22:30:03 EDT
> From: QSHIPQ at aol.com
> Subject: [urq] Chicago performance benchmarks for mildly tweeked WX
>         urq
> To: urq at audifans.com
>
> Ok Gents
> Thought I'd throw up some performance data on the General Lee, my old

> Amazon Blue Urq coming back into my possession after 4 years like a 
> regifted fruitcake with a lot of shipping abuse...  Now adorned with a

> faded tornado
> hood, sunroof and trunk lid...  Hence the Dukes reference...  Stock WX
> engine, CIS, with Euro head and cam, 200 flat flywheel, 15psi boost on
a
> stock k24 turbo with stock exhaust.
>
> First traffic light drag a few weeks ago was with a hotshot in a  
> 350Z.  10 lights worth of his various attempts at launching, I only 
> lost 1  when I bogged the clutch on round 6.  Ran it to 70 (in a lower

> zone, ahem)  each time, and
> the guy wasn't fairing very well with the idea.    Published data puts
the
>
> average 0-60 on that machine as 5.8sec
>
> Second reference traffic light drag was a 3.5 Maxima SE.  6 or so  
> lights, I was about 1 car ahead each time at 70.  Both of us laughing 
> at  the idea actually, a conversation struck as we waited for a
> commuter  train.  Published
> data puts the average 0-60 on that machine as 6.2  sec.
>
> I have a lot of respect for that nissan motor and driveline 
> configurations in both cars.  Actually surprised me that with no 
> shrouding on the IC, I  was
>
> able to repeatedly take the 350Z.  Thought you guys might enjoy the  
> thought of it, as much as I enjoyed the laughs.  To add to the fun, it
> took  almost 20
> seconds to get the PS window down to speak with the Maxima  driver.
C'est
> ca,
> the mistress we call quattro.
>
> Yes Mrrs Mills/Swann, the headliner sagged in the back, the driveshaft

> still knocks, and the rear pumpkin still clunks...
>
> Cheers
>
> Scott J
> 84 RS2URQ project (still)
> Regifted
> 83 Amazon Blue] _______________________________________________
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