[urq] gas pedal weirdness update
martin at quattro.ca
Fri Jun 6 18:31:03 PDT 2008
Hmm... I got my bushings from Worldpac and used the VW number to find them.
Just checked P/N 191 721 559 works for me when I search it.
Hope this helps.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Marinello [mailto:smarinello at entouch.net]
> Sent: June 6, 2008 9:23 PM
> To: Martin Pajak; Thomas Pollock
> Cc: urq at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [urq] gas pedal weirdness update
> It worked out fairly easily with the cross-listed VW bushings. Martin,
> I started to pull the pedal assembly and then thought, Why? Once the
> cable is released, it was easy to pop the cable end into the bushing
> already mounted on the weight. With the free pedal, it wasn't that hard
> to squeeze the bushing into the ring and mount it to the other side of
> the weight. I figured that eliminated the possibility of dropping a
> clip or bushing form the pedal assembly. The only problem I encountered
> was that while I reattached the cable, the weight apparently rotated and
> got caught up, so I had to pop the bushing out and back into the pedal
> ring, which was a little more difficult because I was pushing in from
> the slightly larger end. But I had put a very minimal amount of Teflon
> on the bushing, so it wasn't that hard.
> I think the feel is slightly different, as you would expect...a bit more
> direct. Other than that, the same.
> The parts supplier to my FLAPS has the part listed as a cable grommet;
> p/n 611 54007 589, x-listed with the VW p/n 191 721 559; neither of
> which returns anything on a WorldPac search.
> Thanks for your help,
> Martin Pajak wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> > Both bushings are the same dimensions, one was semi-rubber (red in
> > and the other foam. Replacement is both foam unless you go with the VW
> > neoprene version which is much better IMHO.
> > The best way to replace these is to actually remove the pedal from the
> > bracket i.e. remove the two circlips (you can get those off with your
> > fingers), remove the two pivot bushings (don't drop them behind the
> > BTDT), remove the pedal.
> > Remove the throttle cable from the throttle (that way you get ton of
> > Install the bushing in the pedal and alloy piece in the comfort of your
> > home/garage etc.
> > Than all you need to do is get the cable into the alloy piece (hence the
> > slack). Reinstall pedal in the pivot bracket, and reinstall the cable
> > the throttle.
> > Hope this helps.
> > Cheers
> > Martin
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Steve Marinello [mailto:smarinello at entouch.net]
> >> Sent: June 3, 2008 3:46 PM
> >> To: Martin Pajak; 'Patrick Carlier'; brogers at terrix.com
> >> Cc: urq at audifans.com
> >> Subject: Re: [urq] gas pedal weirdness update
> >> Well guys...finally got upside down to see which part of the linkage
> >> given way and, as expected, it was the bushing, or bushings. At first,
> >> I couldn't find anything but dust, but then I found the aluminum plate
> >> piece (#5 in the ETKA diagram) in the floorboards under the back edge
> >> the carpet.
> >> The reason it 'worked' afterwards is that when I pulled up on the
> >> the circular end piece managed to go past and hook behind the end of
> >> throttle cable, hence the higher pedal. The problem is that I can't
> >> even see the other assembly (15) and have no idea how the aluminum
> >> is supposed to 'mount' up there at all. I've definitely lost
> >> flexibility since the last time, and only managed to slice up my wrist
> >> so far while accomplishing nearly zilch. There's a plastic housing to
> >> the right (HVAC, I assume) and, as I said, I can't see the other piece.
> >> I seem to remember asking this many years ago, but why isn't it just
> >> pedal assembly hooked to the cable? Where/What does that other
> >> hook to?
> >> Anyway, the Audi p/n for the front (#6) bushing, 431 721 559, is still
> >> good and 'only' $10, but not in stock at the Audi dealer, but at the
> >> same parent owner VW dealer across town has one. The VW plastic one,
> >> p/n, 191 721 559, is not in stock at the either VW dealer, the closer
> >> one quoted almost $12. Cross listing at the local FLAPS yielded one
> >> that should work for about $1.50 each. Since he had to order them, I
> >> ordered five. Wonder how long they'll last?
> >> Martin, the second bushing is NLA and no part number in ETKA. I also
> >> love that my Bentley doesn't even show the throttle linkage anywhere,
> >> unless I'm blind. SO I've got the one diagram, but still don't know
> >> it really goes together, particularly with the aluminum plate.
> >> As always, guidance and advice is greatly appreciated.
> >> Thanks!
> >> Steve
> >> Martin Pajak wrote:
> >>> Hi Steve,
> >>> The actual pedal itself is suspended on two bushings (plastic) and
> >>> circlips on either end.
> >>> So.. either one of the bushings has failed, or one of the circlips are
> >> gone.
> >>> You sure the pedal itself has moved?
> >>> You could also have a failed throttle cable bushing... those are foam
> >> and
> >>> designed to fail when you least expect it.
> >>> There is a VW plastic bushing that does the trick and will never
> >>> you will need two of those and might as well when you are in there.
> >>> I have few of those in my dungen if you can't find them.
> >>> Cheers
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