[urq] The revolt is revolting?QSHIPQ at aol.com QSHIPQ at aol.comThu May 15 16:42:35 PDT 2008
This thread might find a target, but I suggest it may bring more apathy from Ag, not less. There are thousands of aftermarket parts available for Audis, very few of which Audi 'owns' the rights to. Further, I have 2.5urq's myself, routinely work on probably a dozen in the midwest, and find any mumbling at Audis lack of support to be silly. Very few on this list would ever *pay* what Audi would need to charge to support a few hundred cars (at most). The aftermarket is driven by volume too, so you won't find much support there either, it's not a patent issue - it's just plain economics. Demand for these parts is high enough, the parts will be made. Expect the other side of that Econ 101 equation to hit you too, the price will reflect the demand vs quantity. Mercedes will support just about any machine of any year made. Different buyer, the type that buys a Mercedes part for his 1971 isn't asking how much. I just don't see that on this list, nor is the current market price of our machines really worthy (IMO). Andrew, you threw a lot of gas on the fire. I spoke to the gent who put up the urq25 website within an hour of it hitting the i-net, because of *my* concern about the use of "quattro" on/in any website. The chain of events is longer than you summarized, and your letter doesn't jive with the version I understand. But the bottom line is that Audi doesn't give that trademark freely, never has, never will. And several vendors and members of this very forum (including Dan too, on the name change of this very forum) are well aware that trademarks in the automotive arena are guarded with extreme prejudice. It's not just Audi, it's every single manufacturer, from Audi to Volvo. And there are attorneys that freelance, trolling the internet for any and all infringements. And the laws support them fully, there are no innocents, it's only money. To have a urq event canned because someone violated the use of a well established trademark, sounds absurd. I argue if anyone here can't get the urq or urq25 reference, no need to go to the event? I see a lot of Audi bashing on this forum over the parts issue. I just don't get it. I like my urq's, and the challenges in making them what I want, include the business moves Audi makes to raise the creativity. It's a grand touring coupe that I appreciate greatly for what it is, how it drives, and I don't pass another on the road every day. Is it easy to find parts for? Nope. Can I make every single urq I work on run without sweating what Audi chooses to do in parts support? Yes sir. When I take my urq's out to Steamboat, or carve up some twisties with the center diff locked, or cruise effortlessly on route 80 for 16hours straight, I think about sending a letter to Audi too. Thanks for making it difficult for anyone else to own? My .02 Scott J 83 urq 84 urq .5 83 urq Steamboat beast In a message dated 5/15/2008 4:46:53 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dgraber460 at aol.com writes: Isn't there an issue that Audi won't release patent rights so no aftermarket?can be made to fill the void??I have no idea if this is true but somewhere along the line I had heard this. Not making parts is a somewhat justifiable business decision, and when do you stop supporting old design etc. etc. Preventing anyone else from doing so is an especially egregious offense to me. It's the old adage - "Fish, Cut Bait, or at the very least Get The Hell Out Of The Way!!" Dennis Graber Quality Linings & Painting Denver, CO **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001)
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