[urq] The revolt is on!

Martin Pajak martin at quattro.ca
Mon May 19 18:03:36 PDT 2008

I think discussing NLA problems with Scott is as pointless as talking to
Audi themselves.. :)

We can channel this energy into much more productive use.

Martin Pajak


1982 Audi Ur-quattro (50,000 mi) SQ project
1984 Audi 80 quattro (145,000 km) 2-door!!
1987 Audi 4000s quattro (212,000 km) wintervagen mit 7A :)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: urq-bounces at audifans.com [mailto:urq-bounces at audifans.com] On Behalf
> Of Mike Del Tergo
> Sent: May 19, 2008 7:49 PM
> To: qshipq at aol.com; urq at audifans.com; michael at siliconoptix.com
> Subject: Re: [urq] The revolt is on!
> From: QSHIPQ at aol.comDate: Mon, 19 May 2008 12:30:42 -0400
> Gents
> As I read these threads after a weekend dash to NYC for Pizzo's wedding, a
> marvelous coupe GT ride, CIS and all, thumbs up from a few new audi
> drivers....  To come back to all this is same old....  Mike, I wasn't the
> only one (even on this list) that knew about the blow out sale at Audi Ag.
> I venture it wasn't broadcast here, because some folks in the know might
> be selfish?
> Then I guess I have to thank you all equally for spreading the word.  Your
> benificence was touching, or it would have been.
> The very words below, supports my thinking that it's possible this list
> might have lost touch with more than reality.
> I don't follow but I assume you mean these are your words?
> I am at total disbelief at the attitude here, sorry to be the messenger?
> It's not Audi's job to inform you of the parts blowout, it's your passion
> that dictates that knowlege.
> Given the state of the world,the economy and gas prices, it's the lists
> attitude that leaves you in total disbelief?  Get some perspective, as
> will we.
> I never said it was Audis job to keep me informed of a parts blow out.  It
> has become increasingly clear that their job is to sell the very next car
> as fast as possible and move on to the next one with as little thought and
> exposure to the last customer as humanly possible.  But I had thought
> there may have been more to long time ownership, loyalty and club
> membership than trying to be sold the newest last greatest and most
> expensive of everything Audi has to offer. (Which unfortunately for them,
> after 20 years of brans association, I can now afford but wouldn't really
> consider for many reasons)
> I am left to be disappointed that my "passion" was not to the level of
> others in the know despite my direct support of the Marque & model for the
> better part of the last 2 decades and that probably 20-25% of the US
> versions left have parts on them that I have helped supply.
> Don't expect any help from Audi here, any help from ACNA, or any help by
> your registered ownership.  I've had q's since 91, several urq's in my
> name over the last 15, and don't think for a minute it means a darn thing
> in regard to passion.
> I don't follow, your ownership didn't mean a darn thing in regards to
> passion, yet you knew about the Audi yard sale?
> What I've been advocating in my posts (maybe better worded by M Dawson) is
> that the reality of what Audi did is a given.  The 5 minutes to bitch and
> lament is gone, and I see no words here in the last year posted that would
> motivate Audi to even consider a reversal to our good fortune.
> Since they could care less, I'd like to see them sell the license to any
> off shore MFGr and let us get some parts, Even GM did that with old Vette
> tooling years ago.  To not even consider this is the real upshot for me,
> not that they made a business decision that was good for them and not for
> us, I see that every day.
> I feel I'm an urq enthusiast with an extensive resume in all aspects of
> that enthusiasm.  I could care less what Audi chooses to do with parts
> support.
> Well that is just dumb, your saying if Audi made all parts avail tomorrow,
> your indifferent.  Ok, maybe not dumb a far as your concerned because
> magically you
> apperently have all the parts you need at your finger tips.  For me it
> would make a difference and I'm guessing for others as well.
> I have been actively rooting outside the dealership NLA crap for years.
> The fact the last year it's recently been an epiphany here on this list
> doesn't surprise me anymore.
> I don't think there are any mass epiphanies going on, just a culmination
> of frustrations and not even a sympathetic ear from the fatherland.  Given
> so many cross over parts on the UrQ it is just tough to see so many NLAs
> especially as so many other German brands are very supportive to their
> torchbearing diehgard fans.
> Audi is out of urq parts support?  So what?
> If you can't be a little more supportive then I guess I'll be the one to
> tell you that this statement equates to you giving the big one finger
> salute to everyone outside of the Audi Musuem who owns an UrQ. Sweet.
> If that's something new to anyone here, you must not have needed many
> parts.  The reality is, this is going to get a lot more expensive as time
> moves forward.  And the reality is, Audi owns every right to the trademark
> and the heritage.  I love seeing the rally footage and the homage to the
> urq in new ads.  As I've presented prose that Audi has ventured far from
> their roots in the latest generations of quattros, these visions remind me
> that not all has been lost in the last 25.
> The days of convenient urq parts are gone.  We can bitch about it...  or
> start to advocate, plan and face many of the realities that this is a
> challenge that has been met by hundreds of other collectors before us.
>  Scott J
>  I'd be surprised if the "so what" crowd were advocating types.  If that
> changes anytime soon let me know and I'll be happy to reconsider.
> Mike

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