[V8] TB R&R procedure (for the 1000th time)
David.Coleman at blackrock.com
Mon Jan 12 09:43:36 EST 2004
I'm pretty much with Dave -- The manual was pretty clear, but only after having everything apart and toying with the components. For me, the most difficult part in the procedure was setting the tension because we needed 4 hands to get it done and it is more complex than standard configurations.
On my manual shifter, throughout, I (we) used no special tools except the cam alignment discs... again to echo Dave S., the job did suck without them. Everything looked perfect, but it wouldn't run right. Called in a favor to a local P/A dealer mechanic who loaned me the discs, and the problem was quickly recified. Get those things -- I submit it's essentially impossible to do the job without 'em... too easy to be a tooth or two off, and overall a PITA.
Also, I did not remove the front bumper, but that left me holding the engine in place with a pry stick on the flywheel teeth in order to tighten the front crank pulley bolt (~8000 Newton Pound MeterFeet). Talk about heart palpitations. The preferable way would have been to use air, for both removal and reinstallation.
Lastly, we had removed the engine to replace the clutch (manual shift car) and RMS. It was a tight fit, and if you don't remove the radiator (and possibly the top support brace), the belt and crank pulley have to come off first... as a side note, I had removed the exhaust and cylinder heads for other work. One should assemble heads and manifolds before dropping unit back in.
Get a friend, a rental car, and a cooler full of beers. Even if you've done 500 various timing belt jobs, this one will take a bit more patience and caution.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dsaad at icehouse.net [mailto:dsaad at icehouse.net]
> Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 6:24 PM
> To: jpb3
> Cc: v8 at audifans.com
> Subject: Re: [V8] TB R&R procedure (for the 1000th time)
> I found the procedure in the manual (scanned microfiche
> version) to be very
> detailed. The only place I remember deviating was to use a
> puller on the cam
> sprockets, but the manual said to "tap" them off with a mallet.
> It is probably possible to do the job without the tools - but
> it would suck.
> The crank holder and cam holders are a must IMHO. Other tools
> can be fabricated
> if needed.
> I own most the tools (all of the really necessary ones) and
> have toyed with the
> idea of renting them out. If you are interested maybe we can
> work something out
> but I will not do it without a deposit for the full value of
> all the tools.
> If there is enough interest in this maybe I can set up the
> rental through
> I am not looking to get rich off this, but it would have to
> be worth my while.
> fyi, I am in Boise ID and these things are pretty heavy.
> Shipping will be a
> Quoting jpb3 <jpb3wvu at frontiernet.net>:
> > All,
> > Unfortunately I cannot access the archives for this info. Tried
> > downloading
> > Pine software to scan the Zipped Archive file someone
> graciously gave
> > out a
> > while ago but could not get the program to open the file.
> I have not
> > performed this procedure before on the V8, on other cars
> > this
> > seems to be an entirely different beast. Therefore I am asking if
> > someone
> > who has BTDT for help. I have the Factory manual on CD and
> printed out
> > the
> > procedure from there but it seems like they broadly cover
> the procedure.
> > I
> > am looking for helpful hints and suggestions before I get
> in there. If
> > someone has a good post saved I would greatly appreciate it
> if you could
> > repost it. Being a longtime lurker and occasional poster I can
> > sympathize
> > with the fact that this has been beaten to death on this board,
> > unfortunately I cannot get to those posts. If someone
> knows when/if the
> > Archive will be available please let me know. Thanks.
> > Also, I am attempting this procedure w/o the factory tools.
> Are they
> > really
> > necessary and if so, any good outfits that rent them? I am
> > contemplating
> > pulling the motor as the RMS needs replacing as well, will
> I need these
> > tools to perform TB job if the motor is on a stand?
> > TIA,
> > John Burns
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