[V8] Gas hog V8s
David.Coleman at blackrock.com
Wed Aug 31 12:00:16 EDT 2005
Holy crap. Not me.
David A. Coleman
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To: v8 at audifans.com <v8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Wed Aug 31 11:15:48 2005
Subject: Re: [V8] Gas hog V8s
I get 20 to 24 mpg out of my V8, driving it hard, calced by
the odometer. The only time I got less was when the 02 sensor
---- Original message ----
>Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:34:37 -0600
>From: dsaad at icehouse.net
>Subject: Re: [V8] Gas hog V8s
>To: v8 at audifans.com
>You forgot insurance - the V8 seems to be pretty expensive to
insure so that may
>move your break even point a little, but overall I think like
you do. My fuel
>cost is on the high side, but overall I pay far less for
>most people I know simply because I don't have a car payment.
As long as I enjoy
>the car, I plan to hang on to it.
>My big dilemma is weather or not to do a valve job. My car
runs pretty good, but
>it sucks oil like we could just blow it out of the ground in
Iraq and have it
>land in out tanks. (really about 700mi/qt) The payback for a
>valve job is about 840K miles (with oil at $2.50/qt). I am
pretty sure I will
>move on by then :-)
>Quoting Mike Arman <armanmik at earthlink.net>:
>> With fuel approaching $3.00 per gallon, just out of
curiosity, I ran
>> some interesting numbers.
>> Starting premises -
>> 1)V8Q gets about 16mpg.
>> 2) CNN/Money had a list of cars you can buy with payments
>> $200/mo (sometimes just under), real exciting stuff like
>> Neon, Aveo, etc, mostly stripped, and you couldn't get A/C
in one of
>> them if you wanted to stay under $200/mo, and I'm guessing
>> economy of these cars is going to be 35 mpg? Which may be
generous . . .
>> Anyway -
>> Fuel costs for V8Q - 16 mpg with $3.00 gas is a bit under
20 cents a
>> mile, fuel costs for 35 mpg is abut 8.5 cents a mile.
>> V8Q, 1,000 miles, $200 in fuel, 2,000 miles, $400 in fuel,
>> miles, $600 in fuel, 4,000 miles, $800 in fuel.
>> Aveo (etc.), 1,000 miles, $85 in fuel, 2,000 miles, $170
>> 3,000 miles, $255 in fuel, 4,000 miles, $340 in fuel.
>> Now we add the payment of $200 a month vs the Audi, which
is free and clear.
>> Audi cost - 1,000 miles = $200, 2,000 miles = $400, 3,000
>> $600, 4,000 miles = $800.
>> Aveo cost - 1,000 miles = $285, 2,000 miles = $370, 3,000
>> $455, 4,000 miles = $540.
>> The break-even point in mileage is therefore about 1,800
>> month, which is about 21,600 miles a year, at which point the
>> strictly fuel plus payment costs are about even.
>> But there is *much* more than that - there is capital cost and
>> opportunity cost on the Aveo, there is depreciation (which Audi
>> owners are VERY familiar with - but OUR cars are already
>> fully depreciated), and then there are the intangibles -
>> ride, performance, comfort, support from THIS group, and so
>> Basically, I'll want to see a lot more than numbers like
>> before I get rid of my V8Q. Personally, I drive about 1,000
>> month, so why the heck should I pay more money to drive a
>> significantly lesser car? Besides, I HATE car payments, and
>> ever want to have one again, as long as I live. That alone
>> something, and if part of the price of that is crawling
under the car
>> and getting dirty, hot and sweaty once in a while, well, I
can take a
>> shower for a lot less than $200.
>> Now, if we want to buy a NICE car, I've seen leases offered
>> level WMBs (ugh) for $400 a month (after cap cost fees,
>> title, blah, blah blah) and after 36 months you have to
give it back
>> - this is essentially just a long-term rental, and you
still have to
>> buy fuel. No thanks, I'm keeping my V8.
>> Best Regards,
>> Mike Arman
>> 90 V8, not just a car, an ADVENTURE!
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