[V8] RE: confessions of a V8.....LONG
bobkorn at kc.rr.com
Wed Feb 2 00:06:40 EST 2005
What is a UrS6, excuse my ignorance? I have never understood the "Ur".
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Subject: RE: [V8] RE: confessions of a V8.....LONG
> I thought I'd chime in here as both a V8 and UrS6 owner. The
> UrS6 is a fantastic car and is what I have really wanted since
> 1995 when they came out. I was introduced to the V8 beast in the
> same year at college when a good friend of mine had one handed
> down to him from his father, it was a 91 with slushbox but still
> hauled A%$ and took us to the slopes in style. In 1997 my frind
> and I had a horrific accident in the V8. We basically hit a
> large patch of black ice at about 85 mph in a sweeping left
> hander on a 4 lane road and as circumstance would have it my
> buddy was hammering the pedal at about the same time so the
> tranny kicked down and we proceeded to do many 360's while
> careening towards a concrete culvert on the side of the road.
> Time slowed down and I also noticed there was a traffic light
> pole directly in our path! We barely missed the pole but did
> slide into the culvert rear first which basically sheared the
> trunk off the car and sent it into a end over end flip into a
> bank parking lot. We were both knocked out and after coming to
> crawled out of the car in disbelief. Basically all that was
> left was the passenger compartment, the rear end was gone up to
> the former rear windshield and the front was about 2 feet
> shorter with the engine resting on the pavement! The passenger
> "cell" was buckled but still intact although the doors were
> obviously not moving. To make a short story long we basically
> were fine with only a few scratches and a real sore morning
> I had always said that the v8 is built like a tank and that
> accident reinforced what I had always thought. Audi got a
> customer for life after that night. So I picked one up in 1998
> after I graduated and it's been a love/hate relationship ever
> since. You v8'ers know what I am talking about.
> I bought the UrS6 about a year ago and can honestly say that
> since then I have not really driven the V8 but maybe 6 times.
> It's not that I don't like it, it's just not the new girl in
> between the sheets for me anymore! That;s not to say I will
> sell it, I think about it every month or so but it means far
> more to me than what I think I could get for it. It's one hell
> of a car and still looks great 15 yrs later.
> The UrS6 is just more sporty,,, and has that tenacious turbo
> powerband that I crave. I bought it with 60,000 miles from a
> one owner lady that serviced at the dealer. It has since gotten
> only a chip (Mihnea) and some new shoes (Michelin Alpins) for the
> winter and it is the quintessential Audi in my book! I have big
> plans for this thing (400 hp+)and will never sell it even if I
> have to live out of it!
> Happy motoring!
> > ----- Message from David.Coleman at blackrock.com ---------
> > Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 09:18:28 -0500
> > From: "Coleman, David" <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> > Reply-To: "Coleman, David" <David.Coleman at blackrock.com>
> > Subject: RE: [V8] RE: confessions of a V8.....
> > To: v8 at audifans.com
> > When I can't speak for myself I find someone else for whom to
> > speak -- a
> > good friend who had a '91 5-speed since new and sold it
> > several months
> > back (it was displaced by an RS6, which filled the V8's third
> > spot in
> > his garage next to an S8 and his wife's A8).
> > I see him often and each time I typically endure 3-5 minutes
> > of pathetic
> > albeit sincere whining about how much he misses the V8, even
> > considering
> > what he now "drives" (the quotes are his). He wouldn't trade
> > the RS to
> > have the V8 back, but if monetary valuation were entirely
> > moot, he'd
> > take it back for the S8.
> > Old, new -- auto, stick -- BMW, Audi -- whatever -- I am sure
> > this V8
> > community is among the finest in existence, and that's
> > compelled by the
> > outstanding-ness of these cars versus the cookie-cutter,
> > fine-for-now-but-just-you-wait familiar white oldsmobuicks the
> > reggelar
> > folks drive.
> > It's been a week and a half and I miss my V8 a hellun.
> > -DaveC.
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: v8-bounces+david.coleman=blackrock.com at audifans.com
> > > [mailto:v8-bounces+david.coleman=blackrock.com at audifans.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Roger M. Woodbury
> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 8:00 AM
> > > To: v8 at audifans.com
> > > Subject: [V8] RE: confessions of a V8.....
> > >
> > >
> > > Me, too. Since I have sold my '93 V8, I have been in
> > > withdrawal, and it isn't pleasant. I find that I am
> > spending
> > > late night hours haunting Autotrader and eBay looking for
> > the
> > > next car. Sunday evening my wife and I were out to dinner
> > > and I confessed that I was looking for another car...one for
> > > myself that would be as satisfying as was the V8. (She
> > LOVED
> > > the V8 and was pretty sorry when it got sold...). So, I am
> > looking.
> > >
> > > I have "on the shelf" a very nice '91 200 20valve that I
> > > bought as a restoration project, and is almost done. It's a
> > > pretty neat example with its chipped ECU and new UFO's, and
> > > the remaining work is slight...in fact the amount of work
> > > that I have done so far isn't great, and I drove it 1500
> > > miles on its maiden voyage, so it was fully functioning when
> > I got it.
> > >
> > > But I am going to have to have some surgery on my knees, and
> > > I am not sure how able to manage a clutch I will be over the
> > > long haul, so I am ready to go a different route.
> > >
> > > And I miss my V8.
> > >
> > > So, I am contemplating three vehicles right now. First up
> > is
> > > a V8 allroad. There are some compelling reasons for the
> > > allroad with V8.
> > > First of all, there is the V8. Secondly, it has an eight
> > > cylinder engine, and thirdly it has a 4.2 litre V8 engine.
> > > The capacity of the wagon body is really very, very good,
> > and
> > > the trick suspension might be very useful for me in my
> > > various ventures which do involve some mild off road stuff,
> > > and some rough road stuff...places the '93 V8 would NOT go.
> > > The down side is to me that trick suspension is an unknown
> > as
> > > the car accumulates miles, and I wonder how difficult and
> > > expensive the thing will be to keep running over the longer
> > > term. Will an allroad reliably see 150,000 miles?
> > >
> > > Then there is the '02-'03 S6. A definite maybe. The final
> > > decision to sell my V8 was because it was a sedan, and I
> > > really need greater usefulness in my vehicles than a sedan
> > > can offer, unless the entire rear opens in a hatch. The
> > > biggest problem with the S6 is that it was produced in such
> > > limited numbers that finding a used one that is in decent
> > > condition for a price that is at all attainable for mere
> > > mortals is problematic. I also don't know what the road
> > > clearance is on those beasts, and some of our rural paved
> > > roads are pretty rough, especially in the spring when frost
> > > heaves rear their ugly heads. The '93 V8 was fine, but it
> > > was about as low a car as practical to drive. Example: my
> > > '88 Porsche 928S4 will NOT clear all frost heaves in the
> > > spring with stock spring heights: the front end engine
> > panel
> > > will hit, so on extremely rough roads the car ends up
> > getting
> > > "walked" over the worst of the bumps. I wonder if the S6
> > > might be this low anywhere underneath.
> > >
> > > Last night I found a very interesting looking S8 on eBay.
> > > Oh, yeah, I kNOW it is a sedan. But it really was yummy
> > > looking, so I am following the auction. The car is at a
> > > franchised dealer and will be Audi Advantage certified. I
> > am
> > > not sure that I would buy another sedan, but in doing my
> > > "market research" I might as well learn what stuff goes for,
> > > right? And there is that great big V8 engine.....
> > >
> > > Then there is the obvious option of getting another '93 or
> > unobtanium
> > > '94 V8. The possible plan is to buy the car, ok, ok....it
> > > might go like
> > > this: Car gets bought for, say, six grand. And lets say
> > > that the interior of the car is really, really good. Let's
> > > say it already has sport seats, ok? And then the headlights
> > > will need to be changed, and lets say I find a set on the
> > web
> > > for, say, $300, so I will have, oh, $500 in the headlights
> > > and the installation when the wrench gets it done. New
> > > tires...gotta have tires on ANYTHING, right, so that is a no
> > > brainer. (Here's a hint: 215/60 Bridgestone
> > > somethingorothers are cheaper than 245whatevers that they
> > put
> > > on those other cars, by quite a lot). And lets say that
> > this
> > > V8 has some obvious issues under the hood at its near
> > 100,000
> > > miles....leaks, timing belt, tensioners, rubber gizzies and
> > > all that jazz. Oh, yeah, and lets say that the hvac need
> > > attention and the stereo is fershitzky, and, oh, well, what
> > > the hell, the steering rack is gone and most of the light
> > > bulbs are dim inside the dashboard. And we'll throw in
> > > rubber rear suspension bushings and, oh, why not, shock
> > absorbers.
> > >
> > > What is the magic number? Well, easily it is $4-5,000. For
> > > the purpose of this little fantasy, the transmission is
> > > OK...needs to have a flush and then go chortling down the
> > > road. So the total investment is now in the $11,000 range.
> > > It is an eleven year old vehicle, and here in Maine, my
> > > annual vehicle excise tax is around $170, and it will cost
> > > about six hundred a year to insure with physical damage
> > > coverage, although I will more than likely just self insure
> > > the carcass.
> > >
> > > So, next year when and if I decide to buy the allroad/S6/S8
> > > or whatever, the tab will easily be in the twenty five grand
> > range.
> > >
> > > Which is better? The bottom line for me is that despite the
> > > neat looking interiors, the airbags that deploy from every
> > > nook and cranny, and the fact that the new V8's have a
> > > gazillion valves, I am not sure that, aside from the
> > > allroad/S6 wagon bodies' utility, that there has been any
> > > meaningful improvement made over the 4.2litre V8...by Audi
> > or
> > > anyone else.
> > >
> > > I think I will go and lie down now, because I am becoming
> > > morose over selling my V8....
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> > > P.S. Oh, yes. And I have never given any thought to an S4.
> > > My wife and I sat in one two years ago when we were
> > > contemplating an allroad. The
> > > S4 is simply too small for us. But the allroad really did
> > fit....
> > >
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