[V8] V8 Avant FS
ALLANVEGA at COMCAST.NET
Mon Apr 27 09:23:41 PDT 2009
One problem I see arising from your proposed swap Roger, is that your
stating off with a chassis that's newer than the motor you want to swap in.
Big no no, and wont get by inspection or emissions(if applicable) While you
are allowed to swap out motors , they must be from same year or newer
car( Your best bet would be to start out with an abh, and stuff that into a
100/s4. Good luck. BTW, there is already a 97 S6+ here CT , so it can be
----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Woodbury" <rmwoodbury at roadrunner.com>
To: <V8 at audifans.com>
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 1:27 AM
Subject: Re: [V8] V8 Avant FS
> Ok, guys. Cool off. The Euro V8 is NOT going to come to the USofA. Not
> now, not later, not ever. Unless someone is a total idiot and that total
> idiot has more money than brains.
> For openers, there is slim to NO WAY that the car could be legally used in
> the US. Even if it were possible to import the car for use on US roads
> US license, the cost would be prohibitive, and with no good reason to do
> For the cost of importing and Federalizing a '94 5 speed Euro C4 Avant,
> could easily buy a 2002 S6 Avant, and have arguably twice the car...well,
> maybe the SAME car but better. So it would seem anyway.
> For all of you long sufferers of my automotive moaning and groanings on
> list, I have actively pursued the concept of a V8 C4 Avant, using a "known
> good" A6 Avant donor body, and dropping in a "known good" V8 engine and
> drive train. Of the latter, there are many and manifold examples, all for
> cheap dollars, with the added benefit that the miscellaneous other parts
> could be held as spares for my current '90 V8, which is a superb example
> Audi's best.
> Anyway, my favorite wrench is really interested in doing the project, so I
> can say that possibly, next winter during the "slow season" which arrives
> with Santa's sleigh, we could roll in the Avant that is sitting there and
> the donor car and go to town. The A6S could then emerge along about March
> 31's, depending on how fast the guys spraying the paint are, and some
> I know that it sounds like I have it all figured out. But there are
> catches, and I will lay them out for you all to ponder.
> First of all, there is the question: WHY bother? No good reason
> except that the A6 Avant would be SOOOO much nicer if it had only about
> seventy more horsepower. Now the 3.6 litre V8 has around 240, and the A6
> Avant weighs some less than a V8 sedan..catch my drift? The most prolific
> V8 stash is the 3.6, which would provide plenty of push for the A6 Avant.
> So the answer to the question is simply, that the A6 Avant NEEDS more
> We can all agree about that.
> Second. There is the cost to make the whole thing happen. It seems to
> out like this:
> * Cost of the donor car: $300. That is what my wrench has in it
> now, and he can keep the old engine and probably the rear end, too. The
> transmission in the donor car is seriously in trouble, since the gear
> selector lever will not select gears, meaning that something serious is
> frozen up inside.
> * 1990 donor car: $500-3500 depending on the car, condition,
> mileage, and "stuff" tacked on to it.
> * Assorted mechanical and miscellaneous engineering time and
> AHA! This is the biggie because we are entering uncharted waters here.
> engine compartment of the C4 has oodles of room for the V8, and the other
> dimensions appear to be within millimeters of each other.the donor and the
> A6 Avant.
> But we don't' REALLY know how to do it, so this could be majorbigtime.
> donor car in question is a well cared for example with 212,000 miles. You
> KNOW that there will be A/C issues, or at least heater core and blower
> issues, and who knows what else? I know now that the recipient car has
> fairly recent tires and brakes and suspension stuff, so I am not worried
> about that. It does need a good interior cleaning, but that isn't a major
> factor. So by the time we get the engine/transmission/rear differential
> driveshaft stuff sorted, and installed, the body spruced up and repainted,
> and the car really ready to go out on the road to show, I expect the tab
> will blow through twelve grand..and that if we are lucky. Now, ther e is
> lot of incidental stuff included in that, and the tab could run higher or
> lower, but it still will run around the same level.
> * So the total for the project will be north of $15,000, you can
> also buy a 2002S6 Avant, which is arguably a much better deal with half
> So, yeah, your sales and exise taxes are lower, but I doubt that it all
> evens out. Since I won't do my own wrenching, it seems a nonstarter.
> Besides, I have also been fantasizing about something else. I really
> like to have another relatively low mileage Porsche 928. I can easily
> "sell" that one to my wife, AFTER I get the new house and most
> HER new kitchen built.
> And about those snide comments about Maine's common border with Canada, I
> can assure you that after those screwballs who hijacked planes in New York
> came in to the US across the Canadian/Maine border, they are no longer
> telling jokes up there. I just came back to the US from Canada crossing
> without incident, but there were more of them there than of us.
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