From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Wed Jan 1 09:46:19 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:12 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: <1041383814.1731.12.camel@gary.home.5045> from "Gary, Orlando" at Dec 31, 2002 08:16:53 PM Message-ID: <200301011446.JAA01635@swamps.roc.ny.us> This prompts a new question...how stable/accurate/repeatable is the governor on the NA pump. I've always dreamed of using an old engine out of one of my cars as a genset powerplant. A couple of questions should really be answered before attempting that. What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? Has anyone played with this concept? I just thought it would be a great way to let an old car continue to live, and get rid of the 40 year old propane powered genset. > That how I learned... by taking them apart. > > For a NA pump, the only 'calibrations' there are are: > -Timing, > -Max fueling > -Idle and max speed > These are the common ones we all know and love, > > and, > > -Governor Bleed. From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Wed Jan 1 11:22:10 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:12 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: <1.5.4.32.20030101155347.0066f7d0@mail.compmore.net> from "Sandy Cameron" at Jan 01, 2003 10:53:47 AM Message-ID: <200301011622.LAA02058@swamps.roc.ny.us> Nice find. I was figuring I'd take the trade with RPMs, keeping them lower, and go for a direct (beltless/gearless) connection. Anyone have the torque or power curves for one of the older NA diesel engines? For the generator...there are trashed gensets out there. My 40 yo Kohler could be the gen donor for this project. The advantages of using the old VW ticker is that we're already familiar with it. The disadvantages, include the size and noise. But at a reduced power load, old Bessie may run for a long time. The site Sandy found has a nice set of photos. Val > > Have a lookat this, esp. what he has to say. > I think you could pull 6-10 kw at 1800rpm, but his 2200 would be better. > I'm hoping to do something with one of my engines, but haven't found a 4 > pole generator yet. > > Sandy > > http://www.oldengine.org/members/jdunmyer/genset/ > > > > At 09:46 AM 1/1/03 -0500, you wrote: > >This prompts a new question...how stable/accurate/repeatable is the > >governor on the NA pump. I've always dreamed of using an old engine out > >of one of my cars as a genset powerplant. > > > >A couple of questions should really be answered before attempting > >that. What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the > >governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? > > > >Has anyone played with this concept? I just thought it would be a great > >way to let an old car continue to live, and get rid of the 40 year > >old propane powered genset. > > > > > >> That how I learned... by taking them apart. > >> > >> For a NA pump, the only 'calibrations' there are are: > >> -Timing, > >> -Max fueling > >> -Idle and max speed > >> These are the common ones we all know and love, > >> > >> and, > >> > >> -Governor Bleed. > > > >_______________________________________________ > >vwdiesel mailing list > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > From r.c.brown at ieee.org Wed Jan 1 08:35:11 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:12 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use References: <200301011622.LAA02058@swamps.roc.ny.us> Message-ID: <3E1318BF.4E3B525B@ieee.org> Val Christian wrote: > I was figuring I'd take the trade with RPMs, keeping them lower, and go for > a direct (beltless/gearless) connection. > > Anyone have the torque or power curves for one of the older NA diesel > engines? Some data on the SAE TD paper: http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/Diesel/SAE/vwtdsae.shtml From amsnare at suscom.net Wed Jan 1 13:47:19 2003 From: amsnare at suscom.net (Adrian Snare) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:12 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fix, not Toss Message-ID: <001701c2b1c6$39abda40$47644e40@suscom.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Jeff , That is the great thing with Mercedes, Volvo, Volkswagen, and Saab -= many things can be repaired rather than thrown away as is the case with ch= eaper(and newer) stuff. But you must be a really good solderer with fine eq= uipment to work on a tiny relay. Adrian (aka earthworm) Two Diesel caddys One Mercedes 300D neither a conservative nor a liberal be -- From kysard55 at suscom.net Wed Jan 1 17:56:06 2003 From: kysard55 at suscom.net (Dave K) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:12 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] propane Message-ID: <002801c2b1e8$f9b4cd20$13654e40@suscom.net> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Has anyone experience with injecting propane to a 1.6NA? I moved to a hilly area and need a little power. Where would you inject the propane on the 1.6? Found this on ebay are these claims valid? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6764&item=1875949759 Dave Kysar -- From h_hagar at prcn.org Wed Jan 1 16:57:01 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump problems---VW Rabbit 1980 ---and 1982-. Message-ID: <000001c2b1fb$a0a87f20$37ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thank you ----that created this forum--------Fantastisk way to do it. I d= rive a 1982 Rabbit with 300 000 Km on speedo.-------No dealer in town ---= Ferry trip to nearest.-----solution ?--LOL DO IT YOURSELF . First the leak at the cold start ---stubshaft -----it has two "O" rings.--= -Thanks to Gary Orlando ----I am still driving. Then it was discovered that= the timing belt was ---sneaking towards the Radiator.------again Thank you= Orlando, Now using two pumps as follows ----068 - 130 - 107 - A -----a= nd AG. Found a dealer with 800 line ----Price qoute for pump -------------= ---------107AG --- 5000 dollars canadian . --LOL LOL am I being -----fed= a line ????. Keep up the good work ----I shall contrbute in future. -= -- PS ---just discovered your archive. -- From forrestking at juno.com Wed Jan 1 19:12:43 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump problems---VW Rabbit 1980 ---and 1982-. Message-ID: <20030101.191243.1360.0.forrestking@juno.com> you can type in plain english. You don't have to type it out like you are sending a telegram, there is no charge per word. Forrest On Wed, 1 Jan 2003 16:57:01 -0800 "H .Hagar" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Thank you ----that created this forum--------Fantastisk way to do > it. I drive a 1982 Rabbit with 300 000 Km on speedo.-------No > dealer in town ---Ferry trip to nearest.-----solution ?--LOL DO IT > YOURSELF . > First the leak at the cold start ---stubshaft -----it has two "O" > rings.---Thanks to Gary Orlando ----I am still driving. Then it was > discovered that the timing belt was ---sneaking towards the > Radiator.------again Thank you Orlando, Now using two pumps as > follows ----068 - 130 - 107 - A -----and AG. Found a dealer > with 800 line ----Price qoute for pump ----------------------107AG > --- 5000 dollars canadian . --LOL LOL am I being -----fed a line > ????. Keep up the good work ----I shall contrbute in future. > --- PS ---just discovered your archive. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca Wed Jan 1 19:36:33 2003 From: jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca (James Hansen) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: <200301011446.JAA01635@swamps.roc.ny.us> Message-ID: You need to take the pump into your friendly local Bosch shop and have them change the governor to a constant speed type- basically the full throttle rpm is set to your working speed. When the solenoid for generator load kicks in, it pulls the throttle lever wide open, which is then your working speed, not redline. I'm not sure if you can do this just with changes to the high idle rpm limit, IIRC it may be an internal governor adjustment. -James > -----Original Message----- > From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On > Behalf Of Val Christian > Sent: Wednesday, January 01, 2003 8:46 AM > To: Gary, Orlando > Cc: vwdiesel@vwfans.com > Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use > > > This prompts a new question...how stable/accurate/repeatable is the > governor on the NA pump. I've always dreamed of using an old engine out > of one of my cars as a genset powerplant. > > A couple of questions should really be answered before attempting > that. What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the > governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? > > Has anyone played with this concept? I just thought it would be a great > way to let an old car continue to live, and get rid of the 40 year > old propane powered genset. > > > > That how I learned... by taking them apart. > > > > For a NA pump, the only 'calibrations' there are are: > > -Timing, > > -Max fueling > > -Idle and max speed > > These are the common ones we all know and love, > > > > and, > > > > -Governor Bleed. > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.416 / Virus Database: 232 - Release Date: 11/6/2002 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.416 / Virus Database: 232 - Release Date: 11/6/2002 From alstum at visuallink.com Thu Jan 2 10:38:59 2003 From: alstum at visuallink.com (Al Stumbaugh) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] CV Joint Boot Message-ID: <200301021538.h02FcxPN018322@localhost.localdomain> Had a shredded inner boot on the '84 Wabbit, on the short shaft, driver's side. Not sure why, it had not been on there that long. Took off the nut on the wheel end, jacked it up and put it on safety stands. Five of the tripple-square bolts came out but one was damaged. Got it out with a new pair of vice-grips, had a spare in the junk box. Then the shaft did not want to slide far enough to clear the tranny flange. Tried several things, finally pulled the bolt in the front, inner pivot of the control arm. Pried it aside a centemeter or so, and the CV shaft cleared! I did not want to take anything off on the hub end and have to get it aligned. Got the CV joint off and cleaned and lubed it. Dummy put the joint on backwards, so it would not mate to the tranny! Finally got it back together. Thought someone would benefit from my troubles. Clean the sockets of the tripple-square bolts, and tap the tool to make sure it has bottomed in the socket. Make sure you have a spare bolt or two, a spare tripple-square tool (I have had them fracture on me just before the torque wrench clicked) and be sure to use a torque wrench or you will not likely get them tight enough. Had one come off at speed on an old Datsun because the PO did not tighten them properly, was not pretty. My Two Cents! Al -- WebMail From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 2 09:56:14 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Relays... References: Message-ID: <3E14530D.EEB4D285@opei.org> I've never experienced any sort of relay failure in my '85 Jetta TD (258,000 miles) --Nate Jeff Rakus wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hello Everyone. > > I just wanted to see what experiences VW folks have had with relays. > In the Volvo world we seem to have problems with OD relays that start to > function erratically. This has turned out to be solder joints that have developed > very small fine cracks where the base spades solder into the circuit board. > I have saved myself buying a new relay by inspecting the connections and > resoldering them carefully to eliminate the cracks. After this procedure it worked > like new! So I was wondering if the vibration from the diesel engine could cause this in > our VW's. Thanks again for your help and support. > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 2 10:00:37 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Tranny linkage bushing replacment References: <3E122BF2.C11FB44C@3web.net> Message-ID: <3E145415.F2BBC9B4@opei.org> Yes, there is a trick. Here it is: Remove all of the muffler hangers. Remove the cross brace (2 or 4 bolts) that the exhaust pipe rides above near the rear axle beam. Now swing the entire exhaust to one side and rest it on a stool, or the like (you can do this because of the ball socket pivot joint between the manifold and header pipe). The rear wheel may have to be removed for proper "swing" room, I forget. Now, the pipe is out of the way enough to drop the shifter out the bottom (after the resonator heat shield is removed). --Nate "cruiser.hj60" wrote: > Guys > I'm trying to fix a worn stickshift linkage in my 86 Jetta by replacing > some bushings. I also want to replace the ball and socket at the bottom > of the stickshift lever. Am I right that the exhaust system has to be > removed in order to get the stickshift out or am I off my rocker. > Perhaps there is some trick to this you experienced guys can tell me > before I start out on what looks like a lot of work under the car. > Thanks > Bill > Vancouver Canada > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 2 10:23:20 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump problems---VW Rabbit 1980 ---and1982-. References: <000001c2b1fb$a0a87f20$37ccb5d0@prcn.org> <1041487409.8866.10.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: <3E145968.34A48438@opei.org> Hey, for grins, about 8 years ago I called my local VW dealer and asked them how much a turbo was for my TD. They only sold new ones. They were $2,800, US dollars! Nate "Gary, Orlando" wrote: > CDN$5000 for a pump? What kind of crack are they smoking? > They must be quoting for a brand new pump. Then CDN$5000 is a dealer > price and is actually about right.( That is, if you believe stealer > prices are good... Ha!) > > This site, > https://webinsi5.securesites.com/vwdiesel/ordform.htm (no affiliation) > has rebuilt NA pumps for USD$395, Turbo for $495. > > There are other sites that offer rebuilds, just shop around. > > Have you checked with a local Bosch repair shop? Look up under trucking > repairs in the phone directory and then look for the Bosch symbol. Most > larger cities have a Bosch authorized work shop. The one I used in San > Diego had great prices and service. > > Good Luck, > -Gary, Orlando > > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:57, H .Hagar wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Thank you ----that created this forum--------Fantastisk way to do it. I drive a 1982 Rabbit with 300 000 Km on speedo.-------No dealer in town ---Ferry trip to nearest.-----solution ?--LOL DO IT YOURSELF . > > First the leak at the cold start ---stubshaft -----it has two "O" rings.---Thanks to Gary Orlando ----I am still driving. Then it was discovered that the timing belt was ---sneaking towards the Radiator.------again Thank you Orlando, Now using two pumps as follows ----068 - 130 - 107 - A -----and AG. Found a dealer with 800 line ----Price qoute for pump ----------------------107AG --- 5000 dollars canadian . --LOL LOL am I being -----fed a line ????. Keep up the good work ----I shall contrbute in future. --- PS ---just discovered your archive. > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 2 23:34:16 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump problems---VW Rabbit 1980 ---and 1982-. Message-ID: <65.6162164.2b466cc8@aol.com> > Now using two pumps as follows ----068 - 130 - 107 - A -----and AG. Remember, these two pumps time at very different specs. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 2 23:38:04 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use Message-ID: <79.617fb2f.2b466dac@aol.com> > What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the > governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? The gov is fairly stable but as said, take it in and have it set as an industrial type governor rather than automotive. Also adding a turbo, even with fairly low boost, will give you all the reasonable power you want. Just size the turbo for good boost at the desired rpm (1800). Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 2 23:47:14 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] where is temp gauge sensor supposed to go ? Message-ID: > The coolant temp gauge on our 85 Golf 1.6na diesel has been reading low. How's the fuel gauge? They usually aren't as noticeable but this could be a voltage stabilize problem. Easy to test with a DMM and the cluster out. > > Also, which sensor is supposed to be used by the coolant gauge and which by > the glow sensor? Bentley is unclear about this. The '85+ book seems to > infer (cannot find a direct, exact reference) the gauge sensor is the one at > the fitting attached to the side of the head which hose leads to radiator, > the pre 85 book seems to indicate the sensor used for gauge is at the end of > the block, nearest transmission. The sensors themselves are supposed to be > identical according to my FLAPS. The blue/white wire is for the glow plug > temp sensor. Usually both are on the end of the head and the one in the upper hose connector is for the A/C hi-temp cutoff. I've seen a few variations though. A/C wiring is generally green or brown. > > While I am here, another question: How can I tighten up the steering in the > Golf (200K + miles)? There is a lot of play in the steering wheel and the > RF Strut assy. was replaced due to a bent strut, the wheel assy. too. > Mechanic just got the whole thing at the wreckers. Now it goes "clunk-bang" > when backing or turning sharply. Also has a skittish unstable feel at > highway speeds though tracks straight as an arrow hands off at under 30mph. > Clunk, if it's somewhat light could be pads needing anti-rattle clips. Harder could be the upper strut mounts or lower ball joint. Have someone wiggle the steering wheel while you look through the whole steering. The lock bolts on the universal ended shafts, between the steering shaft and the firewall, inside the car, are often loose and clunk and slop. Rack could be worn but not often, inner or outer tie rod ends, strut mounts, struts, ball joints, control arm bushings. That's most of the possibilities. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Fri Jan 3 01:09:32 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) Message-ID: <12e.1f2a9cba.2b46831c@aol.com> The original stuff looks like the VW vacuum line only be sure it has the yellow stripe. No stripe and it's only vacuum hose. With the stripe and it's diesel injector hose. Loren In a message dated 12/30/2002 7:10:49 PM Pacific Standard Time, turbobrick@hotmail.com writes: > What are the spec's on the type of hose to use for the fuel lines > within the engine compartment in my Jetta DIESEL? > I want to make sure it's diesel copatable and the correct > pressure / and size rot resistance ect... From jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca Fri Jan 3 02:00:13 2003 From: jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca (James Hansen) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: <79.617fb2f.2b466dac@aol.com> Message-ID: Is Jim Dunmeyer still around the list? He has a 1600D powered genset. I forget his web addy, anyone remember? I have it somewhere on the old computer... -James > > What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the > > governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? > > The gov is fairly stable but as said, take it in and have it set as an > industrial type governor rather than automotive. Also adding a turbo, > even with fairly low boost, will give you all the reasonable power you > want. Just size the turbo for good boost at the desired rpm (1800). > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.416 / Virus Database: 232 - Release Date: 11/6/2002 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.416 / Virus Database: 232 - Release Date: 11/6/2002 From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Fri Jan 3 08:42:28 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: References: <79.617fb2f.2b466dac@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030103144228.GA13246@cybershamanix.com> Somebody posted his page here the other day. You can find it at http://oldengine.com On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:00:13AM -0600, James Hansen wrote: > Is Jim Dunmeyer still around the list? He has a 1600D powered genset. I > forget his web addy, anyone remember? I have it somewhere on the old > computer... > -James > > > > > What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the > > > governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? > > > > The gov is fairly stable but as said, take it in and have it set as an > > industrial type governor rather than automotive. Also adding a turbo, > > even with fairly low boost, will give you all the reasonable power you > > want. Just size the turbo for good boost at the desired rpm (1800). > > Loren > > _______________________________________________ -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Fri Jan 3 09:25:08 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: <20030103144228.GA13246@cybershamanix.com> References: <79.617fb2f.2b466dac@aol.com> <20030103144228.GA13246@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: <20030103152508.GB13785@cybershamanix.com> Although I forgot to add that I thought that was a pretty crummy genset conversion. He should have used a 1800rpm generator or induction motor and ran it straight off the crank rather than belt arrangement. I had a sawmill running off a vw industrial engine with multiple belts -- they don't last that long when you're running it all day. Of course, just for intermitent emergency use it's okay, but not for a cogen unit. Expensive and hard to keep aligned. On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 08:42:28AM -0600, Harmon Seaver wrote: > Somebody posted his page here the other day. You can find it at > http://oldengine.com > > > On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 02:00:13AM -0600, James Hansen wrote: > > Is Jim Dunmeyer still around the list? He has a 1600D powered genset. I > > forget his web addy, anyone remember? I have it somewhere on the old > > computer... > > -James > > > > > > > > What is the power available at 1800 RPM? How stable is the > > > > governor, and can it be adjusted down to 1800 RPM? > > > > > > The gov is fairly stable but as said, take it in and have it set as an > > > industrial type governor rather than automotive. Also adding a turbo, > > > even with fairly low boost, will give you all the reasonable power you > > > want. Just size the turbo for good boost at the desired rpm (1800). > > > Loren > > > _______________________________________________ > > -- > Harmon Seaver > CyberShamanix > http://www.cybershamanix.com > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From maded at gte.net Fri Jan 3 11:41:15 2003 From: maded at gte.net (maded) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: <20030103152508.GB13785@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: I thought it was possible to select a belt or cogged belt for most any application that would run for thousands of hours. I am sure the sales people at Gates would claim such anyway. Probably not a cheap solution though. So you can use an induction motor as a generator? Like an alternator? How do you "excite" it or is it "self exciting" :-) -- Ed Lowe, Seattle 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td 85 Golf diesel 92 Cabrio 97 Passat Tdi > From: Harmon Seaver > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:25:08 -0600 > > Although I forgot to add that I thought that was a pretty crummy genset > conversion. He should have used a 1800rpm generator or induction motor and ran > it straight off the crank rather than belt arrangement. I had a sawmill > running > off a vw industrial engine with multiple belts -- they don't last that long > when > you're running it all day. From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Fri Jan 3 18:31:27 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Change in Tools? Message-ID: <200301032331.SAA20938@swamps.roc.ny.us> I've had almost a dozen A1s, still own an A2, but just bought a A4. I'm wondering what kind of changes I need to my tool box. As near as I can tell: -serpentine belt tool -5mm allen socket for timeing belt cover -VAG-COM, or something similar Anyone care to offer their hints as to what I might want to get to augment the tools box with? For example, are injectors still 27mm, what are the fasteners in the head. Any other special tools for general service, etc. Oh, I have an 8mm triple square, which it appears may also be used for doors, vs older inner CV joints. Thanks for your thoughts. From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Fri Jan 3 18:15:13 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Change in Tools? References: <200301032331.SAA20938@swamps.roc.ny.us> Message-ID: 19mm socket or wrench for the oil plug. 76mm / 14 flute oil filter wrench. T-25 Torx for the belly pan Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Christian" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 5:31 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Change in Tools? > I've had almost a dozen A1s, still own an A2, but just bought a A4. > I'm wondering what kind of changes I need to my tool box. > > As near as I can tell: > > -serpentine belt tool > -5mm allen socket for timeing belt cover > -VAG-COM, or something similar > > Anyone care to offer their hints as to what I might want to get to augment > the tools box with? > > For example, are injectors still 27mm, what are the fasteners in > the head. Any other special tools for general service, etc. > > Oh, I have an 8mm triple square, which it appears may also be used for > doors, vs older inner CV joints. > > Thanks for your thoughts. From milleraw at comcast.net Fri Jan 3 20:52:13 2003 From: milleraw at comcast.net (Andrew Miller) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Drakar...anyone watching Message-ID: <24DFB5CE-1F87-11D7-ABC1-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> Hey, Just caught the first three days of the race on Speed Channel. The VW Terek had some major oops' early on. If you can catch the few shots they have of the tereks and the diesel BMW....The sound is worth the wait. Andy From magnificationbill at hotmail.com Fri Jan 3 22:31:17 2003 From: magnificationbill at hotmail.com (Bill Kelly) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1991 Ecodiesel Questions Message-ID: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Hi all ! Hope everyone's New Year is off to a good start - My ECO ( now 205K miles ) runs COOL.....eighty mph on the interstate ( where I use it most ) and the needle is barely up from the cold/far left....it will move up to the middle in extended heavy traffic. Cooling system is in EC. I'm thinking of changeing the thermostat.Where's the best place to get one ? Other ideas ? Item two has been ocurring for some time -after several hours on the interstate, I notice the dipstick has levitated an inch or so from the " fully in " position. It doesn't seem to be loose/broken - not overfilled w/ oil. Ideas ? Oil viscosity - I'm using 20W 50 Castrol, always have. Would 30 weight be better in this weather ( approx. 35-60 degrees ) ? Any suggestions ? Thanks ! Sincerely, Bill Kelly ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMBEN/2018 From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Fri Jan 3 22:16:21 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector Pump Speed Stability & Genset Use In-Reply-To: References: <20030103152508.GB13785@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: <20030104041621.GA14252@cybershamanix.com> On Fri, Jan 03, 2003 at 11:41:15AM -0800, maded wrote: > I thought it was possible to select a belt or cogged belt for most any > application that would run for thousands of hours. I am sure the sales > people at Gates would claim such anyway. Probably not a cheap solution > though. Maybe. My experiences with belts tho has left me with a total dislike of them. If they worked so good, I'd think you'd see a lot more bikes (and even bicycles) using them instead of chains. For converting an car engine to a genset however, I'd much rather use the clutch and the tranny mainshaft -- maybe even just gut the tranny and use it, no problems with alignment there. > So you can use an induction motor as a generator? Like an > alternator? How do you "excite" it or is it "self exciting" :-) > Yup, induction motor/generators are the best there are. No brushes to wear out or use up hp. To turn an induction motor into a generator, you just overspeed it. Like if it's a 1800rpm, you run it at 1850. It needs to have a load tho. Works great for hooking up to your house to turn your electric meter backwards. You can use the grid as a battery, just like solar. The induction motor will see the waveform and frequency of the grid and conform to it. Although if you're going to do that, you'd want a good relay system so if the grid goes down, you're automatically disconnected. And also a good govenor so your engine doesn't wind out suddenly when there's no load. If you do it right -- and live in a state with net metering laws *and* get the power company's approval, etc. -- and run the engine on either woodgas or biodiesel or ethanol, you can even get paid for the power you produce. In WI, for instance, you get retail rate if your genset is no more than 20KW, and you can run it 24/7 getting paid the whole time. > > -- > Ed Lowe, Seattle > 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td > 85 Golf diesel > 92 Cabrio > 97 Passat Tdi > > From: Harmon Seaver > > Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 09:25:08 -0600 > > > > > Although I forgot to add that I thought that was a pretty crummy genset > > conversion. He should have used a 1800rpm generator or induction motor and ran > > it straight off the crank rather than belt arrangement. I had a sawmill > > running > > off a vw industrial engine with multiple belts -- they don't last that long > > when > > you're running it all day. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From LBaird119 at aol.com Fri Jan 3 23:40:49 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1991 Ecodiesel Questions Message-ID: <102.22c894f5.2b47bfd1@aol.com> > My ECO ( now 205K miles ) runs COOL.....eighty mph on the interstate ( where > I use it most ) and the needle is barely up from the cold/far left....it will > move up to the middle in extended heavy traffic. Cooling system is in EC. I'm > thinking of changeing the thermostat.Where's the best place to get one ? > Other ideas ? Does sound like a bad thermostat. There are many places to buy one but generally your local auto parts store is NOT the place to do it. The opening is usually much smaller than the OEM stats. > > Item two has been ocurring for some time -after several hours on the > interstate, I notice the dipstick has levitated an inch or so from the " > fully > in " position. It doesn't seem to be loose/broken - not overfilled w/ oil. > Ideas ? Blowby could be excessive or the screen in the valve cover could be clogged from incorrect oil buildup (coking). It's possible the dipstick just isn't fitting snugly. The red part it clips into tends to crack which will make for a loose fit. Those are also available. > > Oil viscosity - I'm using 20W 50 Castrol, always have. Would 30 weight be > better in this weather ( approx. 35-60 degrees ) ? Any suggestions ? Thanks ! > Is that a diesel rated oil? Most Castrol products aren't. I've always run 15W/40 year round with no problems. Synthetic isn't a bad thing and several people run it. I just haven't gotten around to trying it yet. Just be SURE you have a "C" rating on the oil you use. The higher the second letter in the "C" designation, the better. Loren From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Fri Jan 3 23:15:54 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1991 Ecodiesel Questions References: Message-ID: 20w-50 sure is thick! I'd switch to a 15w-40. But I'd bet it's the thermostat that's making your car run too cool. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Kelly" To: Sent: Friday, January 03, 2003 9:31 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1991 Ecodiesel Questions > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > > Hi all ! > > Hope everyone's New Year is off to a good start - > > My ECO ( now 205K miles ) runs COOL.....eighty mph on the interstate ( where I > use it most ) and the needle is barely up from the cold/far left....it will > move up to the middle in extended heavy traffic. Cooling system is in EC. I'm > thinking of changeing the thermostat.Where's the best place to get one ? Other > ideas ? > > Item two has been ocurring for some time -after several hours on the > interstate, I notice the dipstick has levitated an inch or so from the " fully > in " position. It doesn't seem to be loose/broken - not overfilled w/ oil. > Ideas ? > > Oil viscosity - I'm using 20W 50 Castrol, always have. Would 30 weight be > better in this weather ( approx. 35-60 degrees ) ? Any suggestions ? Thanks ! > > Sincerely, > > Bill Kelly From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Sat Jan 4 00:50:09 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1991 Ecodiesel Questions In-Reply-To: <102.22c894f5.2b47bfd1@aol.com> from "LBaird119@aol.com" at Jan 03, 2003 11:40:49 PM Message-ID: <200301040550.AAA23865@swamps.roc.ny.us> > > My ECO ( now 205K miles ) runs COOL.....eighty mph on the interstate ( ... > Does sound like a bad thermostat. There are many places to buy one but > generally your local auto parts store is NOT the place to do it. The opening > is usually much smaller than the OEM stats. As others have recently heard with my cracked block story, other factors in the thermostat construction are factors. Like the rivet and reinforcement of the valve plate at the rear of the thermostat. It's ugly when the retaining rivet fails and that plate works it's way into the water pump. From dieseltdi at earthlink.net Sat Jan 4 14:30:44 2003 From: dieseltdi at earthlink.net (dieseltdi@earthlink.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Propane injection testing - pros and cons - Long Message-ID: Well now that the holidays are finally over and things have settled down a bit,I finally have a chance to update you all on the two propane systems that I have tested in my Jetta. First of description of the two systems and how they performed. Import Power Online system - This system works similar to a NOx injection system. When a Hobbs switch senses boost of 10 lbs or so, it singles a valve to open letting propane enter the manifold and giving a substantial boost of power. I found out by trial and error, that a gas pressure of around 10 psi was sufficient to give a good boost of power without being harsh and jerky. Increase in power is very noticable and I smoked the tires in 1st and 2nd gear on one occasion. Main drawback is the 10 psi HObbs switch. I think that a lower pressure, say 5-7 lbs would be better for our TDIs. I also think that this system could be easily adapted to even a NA diesel if the flow rates were kept VERY low and a simple throttle activated switch was used. In my case I drove the car 1585 miles with this system and consumed 39 gallons of diesel/biodiesel and about 2 gallons of propane (I used a small BBQ style tank for the gas supply). This gives me a MPG of 40.6 mpg. It should be noted that 700 miles of this amount was highway driving at constant speed while the rest was in town. Welsh Technologies Mizer dual fuel system - This system is VERY different from the IMport system. It is engineered to supply a small amount of propane to the engine at all running speeds. There is a low flow for idle and a running curcuit for speed. The effect of this system is more subtle. Because the propane is ALWAYS on there is an increase in power across the board, you just don't realize it until you disconnect the system. I did have to make an adaption to get the system to work on the TDI. It is designed to have a throttle switch trigger the high speed curcuit on the controler to increase the flow of propane. Obviously we have no throttle so I installed a 2 psi Hobbs switch as the trigger for high speed running. If you have a boost gauge on your car, you know that the TDI achieves 2 psi very rapidly. The results were for 1797 miles driven I consumed 44.7 gallons of diesel/biodiesel giving me a 40.2 mpg rating. I firmly believe that the slight difference in the two systems MPG was due to the large amount of highway driving on the Import system. I only had 325 highway miles on the Welsh system. I consumed more propane 3-4 gallons or so because the system is on all of the time. My current propane supply is a 10.3 gallon RV tank mounted in the trunk. Unfortunately, I have recently learned that this is an illegal mounting and I will be replacing the tank with one specifically designed for the interior space of cars. BTW the Welsh system is touted as giving you a tax break during the year that you install the system. That is true as long as the sytem is permanently installed and has an approved fuel tank. These approved fuel tanks are $300 dollars! So which system is best? WEll that depends. If you are looking for something that will give you a noticible boost when you need it and is not present at other times, then the Import system is best. If however, you are looking for a system that not only gives more power BUT lowers emissions at the same time qualifying your car as a clean fuel car And you don't mind a higher expense, then the Welsh technologies system is for you. BTW for those of you with pickups, the Welsh tech system can still qualify you for the credit if you install an RV style tank in the bed of the pickup. ONly cars have to have the special tanks because it is necessary to make sure all fumes are vented OUTSIDE the engine compartment. Well there you have it. The Mizer system will stay installed in my 98 Jetta and the Other system with be put into my Caddy later on. If you have any questions feel free to ask. hayden -- Visit my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~dieseltdi 2002 Jetta Wagon GLS TDI, Upsolute Powerbox 98 Jetta TDI Wetterauer chipset, Dual Fuel Propane system 98 Jetta TDI, Speed Tuning Chipset (daughter's car) 87 Scirocco 16v (son's car, gas :^P) 81 VW Rabbit Pickup (Caddy, Diesel of course, awaiting a TD engine transplant) And many, many water cooled and aircooled VW cars now departed or sold. From alstum at visuallink.com Sat Jan 4 18:19:50 2003 From: alstum at visuallink.com (Al Stumbaugh) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset Message-ID: <200301042319.h04NJox8023022@localhost.localdomain> Sorry folks, an induction motor cannot be used as a generator or an alternator. You need a rotating magnetic field on the shaft to induce voltages in the coils that do not rotate. Induction motors do not have this. The magnetic field in the rotor is induced by the static coils. There are brushless alternators that use coils in the stator (part that does not rotate) and diodes and coils on the rotating shaft to set up the rotating magnetic field. Some DC series wound motors can be switched over to make a DC generator but these units are very rare. They use brushes and a commutator to turn the coils on and off as the shaft rotates to get the desired rotating magnetic field. Most alternators on Gensets are pretty much like the one in your car, only on steroids. The output frequency is proportional to the number of coils in the stator and the RPM of the shaft. Of course the diodes in your car alternator turn the AC into DC so your electrical system will work. As to "V" belts vs. toothed belts, each belt is rated at a certain horsepower at a certain speed. A several KW Genset alternator would likely need a matched set of three or four large "V" belts. Sorry for the semi-off topic. Regards, Al -- WebMail From gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca Sat Jan 4 17:35:15 2003 From: gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca (Gerry Wolfe) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset References: <200301042319.h04NJox8023022@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <000701c2b441$8fdb8f00$ec26fea9@celeron> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Al Stumbaugh" To: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 6:19 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset ... > Some DC series wound motors can be switched > over to make a DC generator but these units > are very rare. They use brushes and a > commutator to turn the coils on and off > as the shaft rotates to get the desired > rotating magnetic field. ... Just got rid of my old sailboat :-( which had one of these... It had a gasoline Vire marine motor with a Bosch Dynastart. The Dynastart was connected to the crank via v-belt. When electicity was applied from the battery the Dynastart functioned as a starter motor. I'm assuming there was some sort of a governor, since once the motor started then the Dynastart then became a DC generator. Didn't put out much juice, but then (being a sailing purist) not a lot was needed... rgds and thanks to all the smarter and better-looking folks on the n'group for their collective wisdoms... ___________ ____________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sat Jan 4 17:30:12 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset In-Reply-To: <200301042319.h04NJox8023022@localhost.localdomain> References: <200301042319.h04NJox8023022@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030104233012.GA14874@cybershamanix.com> On Sat, Jan 04, 2003 at 06:19:50PM -0500, Al Stumbaugh wrote: > Sorry folks, an induction motor cannot be > used as a generator or an alternator. Duh! Tell this to all the people already using them as generators, eh? You might start with the windpower industry. From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sat Jan 4 17:35:56 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset In-Reply-To: <200301042319.h04NJox8023022@localhost.localdomain> References: <200301042319.h04NJox8023022@localhost.localdomain> Message-ID: <20030104233556.GB14874@cybershamanix.com> Check this out: http://home.carolina.rr.com/unclejoe/induction.html or this: http://www.scs-www.com/Igc.html or this: http://www.qsl.net/ns8o/Induction_Generator.html Have fun! 8-) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From turbobrick at hotmail.com Sun Jan 5 00:41:30 2003 From: turbobrick at hotmail.com (Jeff Rakus) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. Message-ID: HI, everyone, I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it would run for a while and stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Cleaning up the relay for the glow plugs helped butthe engine would still stumble and die. Would you think that it could be in need of a fuel filter? The injectors have been cleaned. The light on the temp gauge flashes after it starts. This is when the engine is still cold. The engine has been replaced and so the wiring has to be checked to make sure all the connections have been made correctly. The temperatures today have been in the mid 30's. Thanks in advance. Jeff _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Sat Jan 4 20:23:24 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. In-Reply-To: from "Jeff Rakus" at Jan 05, 2003 12:41:30 AM Message-ID: <200301050123.UAA04472@swamps.roc.ny.us> Do you have a clear line going from your fuel filter to the injector pump? Is fuel flowing. It sounds like it could be fuel starvation. The temp gauge flashing is something I can't figure out. Perhaps a wiring problem. Any chance that you have a wiring problem to the injector pump solenoid? I still think fuel starvation, based upon what you've written. > > HI, everyone, > > I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it would run for > a while and > stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Cleaning up the relay for > the > glow plugs helped butthe engine would still stumble and die. Would you think > that it could > be in need of a fuel filter? The injectors have been cleaned. The light on > the temp gauge > flashes after it starts. This is when the engine is still cold. The engine > has been replaced > and so the wiring has to be checked to make sure all the connections have > been > made correctly. The temperatures today have been in the mid 30's. > Thanks in advance. > Jeff > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca Sat Jan 4 21:02:48 2003 From: gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca (Gerry Wolfe) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. References: <200301050123.UAA04472@swamps.roc.ny.us> Message-ID: <001401c2b45e$8bfc79e0$ec26fea9@celeron> Temp gauge light flashing (in my '91 Jetta TD) means low coolant or overheat. rgds, g. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Val Christian" To: "Jeff Rakus" Cc: Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. > Do you have a clear line going from your fuel filter to the injector pump? > Is fuel flowing. It sounds like it could be fuel starvation. > > The temp gauge flashing is something I can't figure out. Perhaps a > wiring problem. Any chance that you have a wiring problem to the > injector pump solenoid? > > I still think fuel starvation, based upon what you've written. > > > > > HI, everyone, > > > > I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it would run for > > a while and > > stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Cleaning up the relay for > > the > > glow plugs helped butthe engine would still stumble and die. Would you think > > that it could > > be in need of a fuel filter? The injectors have been cleaned. The light on > > the temp gauge > > flashes after it starts. This is when the engine is still cold. The engine > > has been replaced > > and so the wiring has to be checked to make sure all the connections have > > been > > made correctly. The temperatures today have been in the mid 30's. > > Thanks in advance. > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From forrestking at juno.com Sat Jan 4 20:52:31 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. Message-ID: <20030104.205232.2732.0.forrestking@juno.com> means either - check your coolant level, if the coolant level is OK, and the temp guage is OK, you might consider the sensor bad. I drove for 20k miles with that damn ligh blinking before i finally got a sensor that would turn it off. Don't buy your Coolant Level Sensor at the Local AutoZone or O'reillys, theirs just don't provide the right electrical signal, I know I tried 3 of them before breakin don and trying an OEM one - it turned the light off. On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 21:02:48 -0500 "Gerry Wolfe" writes: > Temp gauge light flashing (in my '91 Jetta TD) means low coolant or > overheat. > > rgds, g. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Val Christian" > To: "Jeff Rakus" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 8:23 PM > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. > > > > Do you have a clear line going from your fuel filter to the > injector pump? > > Is fuel flowing. It sounds like it could be fuel starvation. > > > > The temp gauge flashing is something I can't figure out. Perhaps > a > > wiring problem. Any chance that you have a wiring problem to the > > injector pump solenoid? > > > > I still think fuel starvation, based upon what you've written. > > > > > > > > HI, everyone, > > > > > > I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it > would run > for > > > a while and > > > stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Cleaning up the > relay > for > > > the > > > glow plugs helped butthe engine would still stumble and die. > Would you > think > > > that it could > > > be in need of a fuel filter? The injectors have been cleaned. > The light > on > > > the temp gauge > > > flashes after it starts. This is when the engine is still cold. > The > engine > > > has been replaced > > > and so the wiring has to be checked to make sure all the > connections > have > > > been > > > made correctly. The temperatures today have been in the mid > 30's. > > > Thanks in advance. > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From LBaird119 at aol.com Sat Jan 4 23:10:09 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. Message-ID: <8c.21fc9384.2b490a21@aol.com> > I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it would run for > a while and > stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Take a look at the fuel line to the pump. It is originally clear. If there are bubbles then that's the problem, an air leak. It could be the fuel filter but at just an idle it'd have to be pretty bad. You can pull it and dump it into a pan or jar and see what comes out. Most likely I'd expect it to be an air leak somewhere in the lines. Does winding the engine out when you first start it help? Or does it still sputter and die the same? Often winding it out will carry it through the air in the pump and also pump fuel faster and get it running smoothly. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Sat Jan 4 23:13:02 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset Message-ID: <78.349fd263.2b490ace@aol.com> > > Sorry folks, an induction motor cannot be > > used as a generator or an alternator. > > Duh! Tell this to all the people already using them as generators, eh? > You > might start with the windpower industry. > So a permanent magnet motor is an induction motor? (So many terms!) I have a Yamaha 100 motorbike that has a starter/generator on it. Not terribly impressive but to have a bike in 1970 that started with the push of a button was pretty cool! Dad said his leg must've been tired the day he bought it! ;-) It never really compared to his Hodaka 90. Loren From dsnyder at goodnet.com Sat Jan 4 21:35:41 2003 From: dsnyder at goodnet.com (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Engine Questions In-Reply-To: <78.349fd263.2b490ace@aol.com> Message-ID: OK, I pulled out my motor and I have found the death rattle's cause. It spun a rod bearing. I'm thinking of going with a rebuild of the 1.6TD instead of buying the 1.9 TD Shortblock. So, questions abound! Not really, just three! 1) Does the 1983 1.6 TD motor use the same crankshaft as a 1.6NA motor? How about a 1.5 motor? 2) For four oversized German TD pistons with rings, I'm getting quoted just under $500 locally. Does anyone out there know of or have a source for these with a little better price? 3) How can I tell if the bearings in the turbo are wearing out? (Factory TD) Thanks in advance! Dave in Phoenix From r.c.brown at ieee.org Sat Jan 4 20:40:26 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Genset References: <78.349fd263.2b490ace@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E17B73A.1BDE2E82@ieee.org> LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > > > Sorry folks, an induction motor cannot be > > > used as a generator or an alternator. > > > > Duh! Tell this to all the people already using them as generators, eh? > > You > > might start with the windpower industry. > > > So a permanent magnet motor is an induction motor? (So many terms!) An induction motor is an alternating current motor in which the primary winding on one member (usually the stator) is connected to the power source and a secondary winding or a squirrel-cage secondary winding on the other member (usually the rotor) carries the induced current. There is no physical electrical connection to the secondary winding, its current is "induced" across the air gap between the stator and rotor, thus the term induction. Several forms of permanent magnet motors, one is putting the magnets on the rotor and this makes it synchronous to the applied field. Also DC PM motors, usually w/ magnet on the outside (stator) and the typical brush (or brushless) commutator to make the rotor move inside the field. HEre's a page on adding magnets to the rotor of an induction motor to convert it to an alternator: http://www.otherpower.com/otherpower_experiments_motor_convert.html From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Sun Jan 5 06:52:28 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. References: Message-ID: <3E181C7C.9080102@suscom-maine.net> It could be water in the fuel. When it freezes in the fuel line it gives just those symptoms and will not always cause the glowplug light to flash. Or it could be a leaking head gasket, which would also explain the flashing coolant light. It is low. Bill Truesdell Bath, Me Jeff Rakus wrote: > HI, everyone, > > I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it would > run for > a while and > stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Cleaning up the relay > for > the > glow plugs helped butthe engine would still stumble and die. Would you > think > that it could > be in need of a fuel filter? The injectors have been cleaned. The > light on > the temp gauge > flashes after it starts. This is when the engine is still cold. The > engine > has been replaced > and so the wiring has to be checked to make sure all the connections have > been > made correctly. The temperatures today have been in the mid 30's. > Thanks in advance. > Jeff > From magnificationbill at hotmail.com Sun Jan 5 08:38:24 2003 From: magnificationbill at hotmail.com (Bill Kelly) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] GTI/16V Grille Kit.... Message-ID: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] I think that's what we call it....I now have one for my Ecodiesel ( '91).....Has anyone installed one of these kits ? It's complete: H4's( 4 each - inboards are " driving lights " ), rad support, ect. How much time does the install take for a competent person ? How 'bout a Doofus ? ( I'm not telling which applies to me ! ) I have the normal 55W bulbs, so I do not anticipate any relay upgrades...... Hints and tips would be appreciated...... Sincerely, Bill Kelly 91 ECO/205K or thereabouts.... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMSEN/2020 From gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca Sun Jan 5 09:51:35 2003 From: gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca (Gerry Wolfe) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] GTI/16V Grille Kit.... References: Message-ID: <001601c2b4c9$f1be4540$5b20fea9@celeron> I have one in my '91 Jetta TD. Took about 2 hr to install (I'm semi-doofus). The only glitch I came across was that the hood latch on the original rad support was rivetted on. Had to do the dremel thing and drill a couple of holes and screw it into the new rad support. Mine has H4 (high/low) 7" lights outboard and H1 (high only) inboard driving lights. High/lows also have a 5 watt "city light" that I have never connected. I initially used the original wiring and then later went to relays, fuses and 12ga wiring all the way thru. A significant difference in output. The light is much "whiter" if that's possible. Output from the H4 high beams is such that I rarely find the need to use the driving lights, even on the highway without traffic and speed concerns. I also have a pair of Bosch 150 foglights mounted below the bumper. They also have the same wiring components. BTW, unlike BMW and Pontiac Grand Am and SUV drivers, I find no need for them in the daytime or when it's not foggy. Must be a difference in perspective or somethin'. rgds, g. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Kelly" To: Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 8:38 AM Subject: [Vwdiesel] GTI/16V Grille Kit.... > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > > I think that's what we call it....I now have one for my Ecodiesel ( > '91).....Has anyone installed one of these kits ? It's complete: H4's( 4 each > - inboards are " driving lights " ), rad support, ect. How much time does the > install take for a competent person ? How 'bout a Doofus ? ( I'm not telling > which applies to me ! ) > > I have the normal 55W bulbs, so I do not anticipate any relay upgrades...... > > Hints and tips would be appreciated...... > > Sincerely, > > Bill Kelly > > 91 ECO/205K or thereabouts.... > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*[1] > > ===References:=== > 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMSEN/2020 > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Sun Jan 5 16:11:17 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (nwall@opei.org) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Engine Questions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1041801077.3e189f7531ca3@webmail.dsl.net> #1) Loren said the NA and the TD cranks may be different (hardened journals on the TD)? But I'd imagine you can use either. #3) Some people say to check the radial (side-to-side play on the compressor wheel. And That it should be non-existent. I do not think that's the case. The bearings are "floating" types (float in their journals). My rebuilt turbo had very noticiable play, and the BRAND NEW Garret turbo I just bought has the same play (Made in the mid 80s), so that logic will not work. My way is to answer: "does the compressor or turbine wheel rub the housing?" and "Is the turbo noisy?" At 100, 000 miles on a turbo rebuild (originally had it professionally rebuilt at '87,000 miles because the motor was using a quart of oil every 750 miles, the rebuild did not help at all!--little did I know the motor had a broken ring, which I discovered about 130,000 miles later on a teardown!!!!!, I pulled my turbo and installed a rebuilt cartridge (the turbo was noisy at a certain RPM range, a balance problem from the rebuilder, I think. (its second rebuild) and I disassembled the old cartridge. Well, ALL most of the babbit metal was gone from the bearings and the shaft was pretty worn looking. --Nate Quoting Dave Snyder : > OK, I pulled out my motor and I have found the death rattle's cause. > > It spun a rod bearing. I'm thinking of going with a rebuild of the 1.6TD > instead of buying the 1.9 TD Shortblock. > > So, questions abound! Not really, just three! > > 1) Does the 1983 1.6 TD motor use the same crankshaft as a 1.6NA motor? > How > about a 1.5 motor? > > 2) For four oversized German TD pistons with rings, I'm getting quoted > just > under $500 locally. Does anyone out there know of or have a source for > these with a little better price? > > 3) How can I tell if the bearings in the turbo are wearing out? (Factory > TD) > > Thanks in advance! > > Dave in Phoenix > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From nwall at opei.org Sun Jan 5 16:36:59 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (nwall@opei.org) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. In-Reply-To: <20030104.205232.2732.0.forrestking@juno.com> References: <20030104.205232.2732.0.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <1041802619.3e18a57b1e5b5@webmail.dsl.net> I bought my coolant level sensor (on 2 occassions) from Olympic Import Parts for about $8. No problems whatsoever (I had to replace it the second time because it was leaking slightly because it loosened up (or its "O" ring compressed), and I broke it by tightening it too much). The dealer wants about $20 - $28. --Nate Quoting Forrest L King : > means either - check your coolant level, if the coolant level is OK, > and the temp guage is OK, you might consider the sensor bad. I drove > for 20k miles with that damn ligh blinking before i finally got a sensor > that would turn it off. Don't buy your Coolant Level Sensor at the > Local AutoZone or O'reillys, theirs just don't provide the right > electrical signal, I know I tried 3 of them before breakin don and trying > an OEM one - it turned the light off. > > > > > On Sat, 4 Jan 2003 21:02:48 -0500 "Gerry Wolfe" > writes: > > Temp gauge light flashing (in my '91 Jetta TD) means low coolant or > > overheat. > > > > rgds, g. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Val Christian" > > To: "Jeff Rakus" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, January 04, 2003 8:23 PM > > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Cold weather stalling. > > > > > > > Do you have a clear line going from your fuel filter to the > > injector pump? > > > Is fuel flowing. It sounds like it could be fuel starvation. > > > > > > The temp gauge flashing is something I can't figure out. Perhaps > > a > > > wiring problem. Any chance that you have a wiring problem to the > > > injector pump solenoid? > > > > > > I still think fuel starvation, based upon what you've written. > > > > > > > > > > > HI, everyone, > > > > > > > > I got my Jetta diesel started after four or five tries and it > > would run > > for > > > > a while and > > > > stumble even with the timing "T" handle all out. Cleaning up the > > relay > > for > > > > the > > > > glow plugs helped butthe engine would still stumble and die. > > Would you > > think > > > > that it could > > > > be in need of a fuel filter? The injectors have been cleaned. > > The light > > on > > > > the temp gauge > > > > flashes after it starts. This is when the engine is still cold. > > The > > engine > > > > has been replaced > > > > and so the wiring has to be checked to make sure all the > > connections > > have > > > > been > > > > made correctly. The temperatures today have been in the mid > > 30's. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > > > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 5 17:33:13 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Engine Questions Message-ID: <127.1ed29944.2b4a0ca9@aol.com> > #3) Some people say to check the radial (side-to-side play on the > compressor wheel. And That it should be non-existent. I do not think that's > the case. The bearings are "floating" types (float in their journals). My > rebuilt turbo had very noticeable play, and the BRAND NEW Garret turbo I > just > bought has the same play (Made in the mid 80s), so that logic will not work. As I understand it, it's the (axial?) play that should be pretty well non existent (end to end). There is always some (radial?) play (side to side). You just don't want enough to let the compressor wheel touch the housing or close. With 4 bearing "gaps" per end instead of 2, there will definitely be some play. Loren From teacher525 at juno.com Sun Jan 5 15:35:32 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Injection Pump locking hole Message-ID: <20030105.153538.-857487.0.teacher525@juno.com> I recently had an 86 1.6TD Jetta installed in my Caddy. Will be installing cruise control and tachometer based on Roger Browns pages using a face plate glued on the sprocket. I need to make holes in face plate first before gluing in, to allow insertion of pump locking tool for later maintenance. There are all different size holes in this sprocket. Some have advised using a 7/16 Craftsman deep 1/4 inch socket as locking pin. Does someone know the actual pin size, closest SAE? I have a 1/4 inch deep socket not craftsman. Its 21/32 and slightly too big to fit the smallest hole in the sprocket. There is just one small hole in the sprocket. Does this sound like the correct hole? Why only one small hole? The other holes in the sprocket are much bigger. Although I didn't see the inside alignment hole on the pump, I assume it is hidden by the current sprocket position. Or am I looking at the wrong hole for locking in the sprocket for the Jetta TD pump? ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From teacher525 at juno.com Sun Jan 5 15:45:18 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Injection Pump locking hole Message-ID: <20030105.154521.-857487.1.teacher525@juno.com> I recently had an 86 1.6TD Jetta installed in my Caddy. Will be installing cruise control and tachometer based on Roger Browns pages using a face plate glued on the sprocket. I need to make holes in face plate first before gluing in, to allow insertion of pump locking tool for later maintenance. There are all different size holes in this sprocket. Some have advised using a 7/16 Craftsman deep 1/4 inch socket as locking pin. Does someone know the actual pin size, closest SAE? I have a 1/4 inch deep socket not craftsman. Its 21/32 and slightly too big to fit the smallest hole in the sprocket. There is just one small hole in the sprocket. Does this sound like the correct hole? Why only one small hole? The other holes in the sprocket are much bigger. Although I didn't see the inside alignment hole on the pump, I assume it is hidden by the current sprocket position. Or am I looking at the wrong hole for locking in the sprocket for the Jetta TD pump? ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Sun Jan 5 19:13:39 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Injection Pump locking hole In-Reply-To: <20030105.154521.-857487.1.teacher525@juno.com> from "Milton Kaplan" at Jan 05, 2003 03:45:18 PM Message-ID: <200301060013.TAA10363@swamps.roc.ny.us> > locking tool for later maintenance. There are all different size > holes in this sprocket. Some have advised using a 7/16 Craftsman > deep 1/4 inch socket as locking pin. Does someone know the actual > pin size, closest SAE? I have a 1/4 inch deep socket not craftsman. The 7/16, 1/4" drive Craftsman socket does indeed fit, however, I've found that using a 1/4" drive older style Craftsman 11mm deep results in an even tighter fit. There's less than .005" slop. 25 years ago, I took that socket out of circulation, and keep it for setting injector pumps. I don't have a loose pump sprocket hanging around, but if you want, I could at least mic the socket. Advise if you want me to do so. From sshourds at flash.net Sun Jan 5 22:32:30 2003 From: sshourds at flash.net (Shalyn Shourds) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles Message-ID: <3E1906DE.4020806@flash.net> Got one on the table and I keep charging up the paddles, but it's still dead. 1965 190Dc Mercedes. Sorry it's not a VW, but I just couldn't stand the thought of asking people who weren't quite as smart or good looking. And, I figure it's still relevant. Car sat for about 10 years, sporadically started, probably last time was 4 years ago. I haul it 1000 miles to Texas to work on it and I absolutely cannot get it to start. I have it cranking full speed, I have all the glow plugs working, the intake's off the car so it's not a problem, I got the mouse nest and mud dauber's nest out of the exhaust (I hope), I have at least some fuel to the injectors and even bypassed the tank in favor of a small can of fresh fuel. Timing should still be on since it's not been worked on since it was parked, running. I have it to where one cylinder will sort of fire while the glow plugs are still very hot, and there's a pretty impressive cloud of white Diesel smoke in the garage. Looks like one of those scenes in the Highlander movie where they're fighting in the misty moors. But, that's all I can get. Any good ideas out there of what can get gummed up if you let a car sit too long? I'd love to just haul it behind a truck till it started, but the clutch system is leaking and I don't have a truck handy. Oh, and it won't light off of WD-40 sprayed in the intake. All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is not the case. For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that really use up some fuel? Cause my economy has really been down since I brought the other car down. Thanks -Shalyn -85 Jetta TD -65 MB 190 Dc, Job's wife From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Mon Jan 6 00:18:55 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles In-Reply-To: <3E1906DE.4020806@flash.net> from "Shalyn Shourds" at Jan 05, 2003 10:32:30 PM Message-ID: <200301060518.h065ItN15964@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier, Shalyn Shourds wrote: > > Got one on the table and I keep charging up the paddles, but it's > still dead. 1965 190Dc Mercedes. Sorry it's not a VW, but I just > couldn't stand the thought of asking people who weren't quite as smart > or good looking. And, I figure it's still relevant. > Car sat for about 10 years, sporadically started, probably last time > was 4 years ago. I haul it 1000 miles to Texas to work on it and I > absolutely cannot get it to start. I have it cranking full speed, I > have all the glow plugs working, the intake's off the car so it's not a > problem, I got the mouse nest and mud dauber's nest out of the exhaust > (I hope), I have at least some fuel to the injectors and even bypassed > the tank in favor of a small can of fresh fuel. Timing should still be > on since it's not been worked on since it was parked, running. I have > it to where one cylinder will sort of fire while the glow plugs are > still very hot, and there's a pretty impressive cloud of white Diesel > smoke in the garage. White smoke is unburned fuel, from one (or more) cylinder not firing. > Looks like one of those scenes in the Highlander > movie where they're fighting in the misty moors. But, that's all I can > get. Any good ideas out there of what can get gummed up if you let a > car sit too long? I'd love to just haul it behind a truck till it > started, but the clutch system is leaking and I don't have a truck > handy. Oh, and it won't light off of WD-40 sprayed in the intake. > > All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone > mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is > not the case. If nothing else works, pull the injectors and do a compression test. All cylinders should be somewhere close +/- 10% at most. While they are out, test the spray pattern of the injectors. If you don't have good atomization the sprayed fuel will be very hard to ignite. > > For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a > long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that > really use up some fuel? Cause my economy has really been down since I > brought the other car down. The prolonged running has to use some fuel. How much and how long you've run it is hard to guess from what you wrote. Since I'm new to this list, I'll add as background that I've had a half dozen VW diesels in the past, including putting aftermarket turbos on a couple of them. :-) If anybody knows somebody looking, I've got a good '82 Audi 2.0L 5 cyl diesel sitting in the garage that needs a new home. - Charlie Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features 97 Dodge Ram - 35 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 6 00:28:34 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles Message-ID: > All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone > mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is > not the case. Honestly since you have a separate tank set up I might try cranking some ATF through the pump. It certainly will help if the rings are stuck. Stuck rings would've been my first thought until my trip down there. We spent a couple hours visiting with the guys in an injector pump shop. They had an old Mercedes pump in there that had say about 10 years, inside. Humidity is such a bear there that the pump wouldn't even turn! It was completely gummed up. It was almost finished though with just a new diaphragm, seal kit and "check valve" seats. Yours doesn't sound near that bad. :) Dave had a TD pump in there to be worked over and the cam plate was pitted and the vanes in the pump were stuck in the rusty rotor. A tow start would be the simplest way to get it to fire up I'd think. A full glow is also fairly mandatory. Dad's 220 just plain wouldn't start without a full glowing indicator at any temp below about 70F. Even in 90F weather you had to give it a little glow when the engine was cold or you'd do a lot of cranking. Other than pulling injectors and soaking the cylinders with some ATF and cranking clean diesel or ATF through the pump, I'd say you'll just have to keep at it or find someone to drag you around. Not likely you'll find enough of a hill. ;-) > > For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a > long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that > really use up some fuel? Cause my economy has really been down since I > brought the other car down. Yes it does! Just idling in the colder weather with the heater fan going cuts my mileage noticeably. Loren From jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca Mon Jan 6 00:02:54 2003 From: jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca (James Hansen) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles In-Reply-To: <3E1906DE.4020806@flash.net> Message-ID: > handy. Oh, and it won't light off of WD-40 sprayed in the intake. Sounds like rings- low compression. I have a 240 mod 123 that starts the same. Compression isn't that low, just 20ish psi below wear limit, plugs good, injectors fresh, but let it be cool, and it won't start worth beans. It's ether time to get it going if you really want to, it will give these lame little "pupp pupp pupp" almost wanting to start while making white smoke noises until the battery runs out. A volks makes these kind of noises, it's going to start right away, like my Jetta during it's runup at -40 when I forget to plug it in at night. When an old Benz makes these noises, better have a really big battery, 'cause you will be at it for veeerrrry long time. The benz is built tough, but not a lot of finesse like a volks. Man, my 89 Jetta is at 540000kms, and still starts to -20 with no trouble, not plugged in. The 240 is essentially dead at 150000 miles from low compression. Another project in the wings. You're sure the glow plugs are good? Some of this vintage of benz had real stupid plug wiring arrangement IIRC. Does yours have the zig-zaggy solid wire that goes from plug to plug? If so, these are not very good glow plugs, the neighbor has these in his car, similar vintage benz, and if you change one, IIRC he had to change them all. If you didn't, and had a mismatched set, one of the others would blow. They were wired in parallel I think, but if one had a smidge higher resistance, the others got too much current and went poof. When one was down, it wouldn't start well at all. I remember being head down under the hood of his for the best part of a winter day trying to get it running, just after he changed a couple plugs. Change one, another one went etc, until I metered out a matched set from his box of used ones. Other thing to check is crack an injector line, be sure fuel is there for sure. -James > > All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone > mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is > not the case. > > For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a > long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that > really use up some fuel? Cause my economy has really been down since I > brought the other car down. > Heh. yeah. From scameron at compmore.net Mon Jan 6 11:51:01 2003 From: scameron at compmore.net (Sandy Cameron) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20030106165101.0067b4f0@mail.compmore.net> Big cloud of white smoke means fueling is ok. Since cam and pump are chain driven, no question about timing. Long parking interval allows oil to drain away from rings = no compression. Old worn engine, same thing. All adds up. (why it cranks so easy) Simmilar problems here with an 85 A2 last week. Owner had been trying to crank it too long, and flooded the cylinders with fuel, washing down the lube oil, reducing compression below the ignition point. BEST solution is a tow start. Other methods like squirting lube oil into intake to seal rings can be hazardous to your health, and the engine's. Better fix the clutch and tow it (high, 4th gear to avoid tranny tooth extraction). If it's automatic (ugh) you will have to get a LITTLE 20w50 into each cylinder to get it started. (You could also stick your fuel tubes into a can of auto transmission oil and try to start it on that. Sandy At 10:32 PM 1/5/03 -0600, you wrote: > Got one on the table and I keep charging up the paddles, but it's >still dead. 1965 190Dc Mercedes. Sorry it's not a VW, but I just >couldn't stand the thought of asking people who weren't quite as smart >or good looking. And, I figure it's still relevant. > Car sat for about 10 years, sporadically started, probably last time >was 4 years ago. I haul it 1000 miles to Texas to work on it and I >absolutely cannot get it to start. I have it cranking full speed, I >have all the glow plugs working, the intake's off the car so it's not a >problem, I got the mouse nest and mud dauber's nest out of the exhaust >(I hope), I have at least some fuel to the injectors and even bypassed >the tank in favor of a small can of fresh fuel. Timing should still be >on since it's not been worked on since it was parked, running. I have >it to where one cylinder will sort of fire while the glow plugs are >still very hot, and there's a pretty impressive cloud of white Diesel >smoke in the garage. Looks like one of those scenes in the Highlander >movie where they're fighting in the misty moors. But, that's all I can >get. Any good ideas out there of what can get gummed up if you let a >car sit too long? I'd love to just haul it behind a truck till it >started, but the clutch system is leaking and I don't have a truck >handy. Oh, and it won't light off of WD-40 sprayed in the intake. > >All I can think of is that maybe the injectors got gummed up, or someone >mentioned that maybe the rings stuck, a possibility that I'm hoping is >not the case. > >For some VW content, if you idle a 1.6TD with the BIG alternator for a >long time charging another car's battery over and over again, does that >really use up some fuel? Cause my economy has really been down since I >brought the other car down. > >Thanks > >-Shalyn > >-85 Jetta TD >-65 MB 190 Dc, Job's wife > >_______________________________________________ >vwdiesel mailing list >vwdiesel@vwfans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > From nwall at opei.org Mon Jan 6 12:36:35 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] How could I Grind the Gears Doing This? Message-ID: <3E19BEA3.DFA3DA6A@opei.org> Last night I was driving the Jetta TD. We got a little snow, so the road was coated. I was slowing down doing about 15 mph or so, so I proceded to downshift from 3rd to 2nd. Just like any other time, given the road speed. But.... As I was braking, the wheels totally locked up because of the snow. As I depressed the clutch and downshifted with the wheels locked, the gears banged (or grinded) quite noticeably and it then went into 2nd. What happened? Isn't this like shifting w/ the vehicle stopped, since the wheels locked? Interesting. Its the first time anything like this has happened. Its almost as if I tried to shift w/out the clutch. --Nate From r.c.brown at ieee.org Mon Jan 6 09:48:03 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] How could I Grind the Gears Doing This? References: <3E19BEA3.DFA3DA6A@opei.org> Message-ID: <3E19C153.DF327902@ieee.org> Nate Wall wrote: > > Last night I was driving the Jetta TD. We got a little snow, so the road > was coated. I was slowing down doing about 15 mph or so, so I proceded > to downshift from 3rd to 2nd. Just like any other time, given the road > speed. But.... As I was braking, the wheels totally locked up because of > the snow. As I depressed the clutch and downshifted with the wheels > locked, the gears banged (or grinded) quite noticeably and it then went > into 2nd. What happened? Isn't this like shifting w/ the vehicle > stopped, since the wheels locked? Interesting. Its the first time > anything like this has happened. Its almost as if I tried to shift w/out > the clutch. Same as shifting when stopped but some of the parts in the tranny may still have been spinning due to intertia. Also when you let the clutch out if the timing with the brakes wasn't exact, the wheels may still have been braked so there was a sudden shock as the engine spun them back up to speed. From crusader at nccw.net Mon Jan 6 19:13:49 2003 From: crusader at nccw.net (crusader) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> Message-ID: <002a01c2b5e1$aa007160$147e58cf@w2kclient> After much frustration, I broke down and took to car to my local mechanic who also believes that it is the proportioning valve. He also added that it is pricey. Does anyone know of a used one for sale? Thanks, Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Boyer" To: "Nate Wall" ; "crusader" Cc: Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > I had a bad rear wheel cylinder on an A1 and it just wouldn't bleed. It > didn't leak > in the pressure mode, but it sucked in air when it retracted. I bled the > damn thing > for hours until I talked to a buddy who suggested replacing it. Cured it. > > Regards, > > Chris Boyer > San Diego > > At 10:59 AM 12/30/02 -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > >What type of VW? The A-2 Jettas have a load-sensing proportioning valve > >next to the rear axle beam that sometimes leaks fluid. > > > >--Nate > > > >crusader wrote: > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > -- > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > Thanks to all of you who responded to my question last week about my > > failing master cylinder. I replaced it and bled all 4 wheels. However, > > on the rear driver side, the line bubbled and foamed no matter how much I > > bled. After noticing that I had good "pedal" I gave up. > > > > > > Now, four days later, my pedal started to sink and after two more days > > I was back to pumping 3-4 times before I got any braking action. The > > difference now, is that after I pump it up, the pedal does not sink as before. > > > > > > I just bled that back wheel again and I continue to get foaming fluid > > out of the wheel cylinder. Can the wheel cylinder be the problem? > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > Kerry > > > -- > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > >_______________________________________________ > >vwdiesel mailing list > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > From PREaton47 at aol.com Mon Jan 6 19:36:09 2003 From: PREaton47 at aol.com (PREaton47@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] FS/ Front swaybar for A1 Rabbit, Jetta, PU Message-ID: <29.355b2ae6.2b4b7af9@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Originally off my 79 Rabbit. Mounts easily. Was told by PO it was Neuspeed but don't know. $75obo, +frt from Phoenix. Ken Hougard From greg4vwparts at hotmail.com Mon Jan 6 19:35:15 2003 From: greg4vwparts at hotmail.com (greg rich) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions Message-ID: RE: TD engine questions 2) For four oversized German TD pistons with rings, I'm getting quoted just under $500 locally. Does anyone out there know of or have a source for these with a little better price? I know I can get a set of 0.5mm oversize turbo diesel pistons for $600 CDN funds including taxes, you should be able to do much better then $600 USD!! Greg _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From sshourds at flash.net Mon Jan 6 19:46:27 2003 From: sshourds at flash.net (Shalyn Shourds) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles References: Message-ID: <3E1A3173.3070706@flash.net> > > >My theory is that the compression may be a little low. (The rings are cold >and they've been sitting for a long time so there's no oil to help them >seal). Get that motor turning at 2000 RPM's and the oil pumps up there and >it generates a little heat, the rings re-seat themselves and vrooom! > >My thoughts! > >By the way, any pictures of your '65? > >Good luck. > >Dave in Phoenix > > Thanks for the enormous response! I'll poke the hose in a can of ATF and see what happens. Maybe running some of that fresh fuel through it will have helped it loosen up. I did notice a lot more white smoke when I got the fresh stuff worked through the system. I think I found a major piece of the problem with the clutch, so I may be able to get that working, too. I'd love to get some pictures up but I haven't invested in a digital camera or a scanner yet. I have thought about finding a cheap used one for garage use. Figured it might be helpful for those things (like drum brakes) that you just can't quite remember how it went together before you took it apart. Would be a lot easier to document the process, too. The car's quite the sight now with all the chrome off, weeds still stuck in it, vestiges of white paint marking up the even coat of rust, etc. When my dad's wife saw it for the first time, she was open-jaw shocked. Then she started talking to me like my girfriend had just dumped me, my dog had just died, and someone had just told me the Monkees didn't play their own music. You just gotta see into the potential:). -Shalyn -85 Jetta TD -65 MB 190Dc From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 6 21:35:29 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles Message-ID: > the Monkees didn't play their own music. No! Next thing you'll tell me there's no Santa Claus! (Actually Mike was a good guitar player and Mickey's a fair drummer. Partridge Family, now THERE'S someone that didn't play their own music!) One thing, I wouldn't expect the Benz to start on ATF. It might help it to run some through it but then you'll have to pump diesel back through. I had a bunch go through a pump it seems like (I can't think of why) and it barely ran until it got flushed through well with diesel. Must've been Dad filled a fuel filter with it or something. Barely ran though. Loren From boyer at cts.com Mon Jan 6 19:37:56 2003 From: boyer at cts.com (Chris Boyer) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems In-Reply-To: <002a01c2b5e1$aa007160$147e58cf@w2kclient> References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20030106191347.0208b5b0@king.cts.com> Hi, Kerry....if you're bleeding the brakes and every time you get air, that means there is air leaking into the system. Unless your proportioning valve has a leak, I doubt it's defective. Before you spend your money on a proportioning valve, replace that rear wheel cylinder which bubbles upon bleeding, and give it another shot. I think I spent about $6-$12 for a wheel cylinder last time I bought one. If your mechanic is sure it's the proportioning valve, let him buy it and put it in. Pay him if it works. Ask him to explain how a bad proportioning valve causes air bubbles in the fluid. Please send me his response; I'd love to know. If you're damned sold on replacing the proportioning valve, and don't want to spend the money for a factory unit, get one from Wilwood. You'll need to adjust it, but you can manually adjust the pressure differential between the front and rear brakes. Make sure the proportioning valve you are replacing doesn't have a delay valve built in. The delay valve keeps the front brakes from applying until the rears have about 150psi line pressure. The 150psi gives the rear brakes a chance to overcome return spring pressure so they apply at the same time as the front brakes, which do not have return spring pressure to overcome. Let me know what you find if you get a chance. I think you're overlooking something really simple, but deceptive. You'll get it. Regards, Chris Boyer At 07:13 PM 1/6/03 -0500, crusader wrote: >After much frustration, I broke down and took to car to my local mechanic >who also believes that it is the proportioning valve. He also added that it >is pricey. > >Does anyone know of a used one for sale? > >Thanks, > >Kerry >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Chris Boyer" >To: "Nate Wall" ; "crusader" >Cc: >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:11 PM >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > > I had a bad rear wheel cylinder on an A1 and it just wouldn't bleed. It > > didn't leak > > in the pressure mode, but it sucked in air when it retracted. I bled the > > damn thing > > for hours until I talked to a buddy who suggested replacing it. Cured it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris Boyer > > San Diego > > > > At 10:59 AM 12/30/02 -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > > >What type of VW? The A-2 Jettas have a load-sensing proportioning valve > > >next to the rear axle beam that sometimes leaks fluid. > > > > > >--Nate > > > > > >crusader wrote: > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Thanks to all of you who responded to my question last week about my > > > failing master cylinder. I replaced it and bled all 4 wheels. However, > > > on the rear driver side, the line bubbled and foamed no matter how much >I > > > bled. After noticing that I had good "pedal" I gave up. > > > > > > > > Now, four days later, my pedal started to sink and after two more days > > > I was back to pumping 3-4 times before I got any braking action. The > > > difference now, is that after I pump it up, the pedal does not sink as >before. > > > > > > > > I just bled that back wheel again and I continue to get foaming fluid > > > out of the wheel cylinder. Can the wheel cylinder be the problem? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > > > Kerry > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >vwdiesel mailing list >vwdiesel@vwfans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 6 22:36:58 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] The trip: A tale of cross country encounters. :) Message-ID: <14f.19d52851.2b4ba55a@aol.com> Thought I might as well do an update as to how things went since I've been back since Thursday evening. First day was a great meeting with Dave and Jim. I never realized LaGrande was such a windy place. Heck, most everywhere but here and Dave Barbieri's seemed to be windy! Had breakfast with Dave and Jim, then stood outside talking until we were shivering something fierce, then we were on our way again. We drove straight through the rest of the trip and I swear it keeps getting harder and harder to do that! I don't think it's likely to happen again unless we're driving something you can lay down and sleep in! After a few days of cold and flu in OK, I set out for TX. My wife kind of kicked me out so I'd go. By the time I was to OK City, I wondered what on Earth I was doing! This was a LONG bloody drive and I had nobody to keep me awake or spell me off. I also had next to nothing of a radio, no CD player (that I knew of, it was in the back of my seat!) and the DVD player with all the mp3 cds were also back at the in-laws. :P The POS radio did manage to pickup country or oldies most of the way down. I never changed the station, it would just drift from station to station with the frequency not matching what was indicated. Kind of strange, oldies and country was all it'd get! On the way back it got stuck on some classical station no matter where I tuned so I gave up then found the CD and tape adapter. :) About 6 hours later I was meeting Dave Barbieri. I followed him to a motel where we stayed up and talked until about 1:00 or some stupid hour! He came back in the AM and we went for breakfast. Of course more talk of VW's and diesels! He showed me around to the local dealer and VW private specialty shop. They have ALL the equipment there! :) Don't ask me where anything was. We wandered all over different roads to different towns each time until I was thoroughly confused! The next day we visited the local injector pump repair facility where we visited with them for nearly 2 hours! Learned a few things. :) After that we headed for another dealer and picked up a gasket for the Passat. I had a slight exhaust leak between the EGR and the EGR cooler. Replacing it did seem to help some so the car did run better on the return trip but nothing drastic. No real mileage improvement, which was suffering from the speeds we were doing. About 2:00 and I was on my way back to Dallas. Hit a MAJOR rain storm which traffic managed to keep doing 70 to 80 mph through. It was actually much easier to see than doing about 50mph! A few phone calls and I was set to meet Hayden and Shalyn at an exit on the way. Problem was the meeting place was at a different exit! ;-) It all worked out and we visited there too long again. ;-) This group can sure visit when you're talking VW diesels! Then I was off again at a steady 85 arriving back in northern OK at about 11:30 only to get up in the AM and start out back home. Instead of coming home across TX, AZ and up through CA and OR, we doubled back. It was a couple days shorter and Pat wanted to spend the time with her parents. That's why I went to TX by myself. All in all the Passat ran flawlessly. Mileage was mostly 40 with a 45 across WY and about 41 to 42 some of the way home. We drove mostly 75 ish down and a fair bit of 80 on the way home. Whoever thought we needed slow speed limits never drove across a few states! 80 to 90 would be a good speed for the intestates! Not once was there a complaint about leg room from the two teenagers in the backseat. :) Handling was great. The Michelin Alpins did great on the snow and ice with just the usual hopping about as you went from dry to compact snow. Even through several inches of slush I was able to hold about 65 in order to pass on the Blue Mountains. You don't want to follow ANYBODY there! They GRAVEL the highway for winter traction. Ain't no sand, it's like the stuff they use to resurface the road! I finally got the Rabbit nearly cleaned out! It still had antifreeze int the carpet from the leaking connections so I flushed and flushed then vac'd it out. I've finally gotten most of the "crap" out and put or thrown away. Then I did a water pump on the mini van. What a pain. Today was a good one though. :) I got the bolts from Nate, in the mail, for the Jetta turbo so I got them in. THAT car's now done and drivable! YAY! I got the parking brake lever back in Pat's van (after a couple years) so IT'S done! We tried getting some work done on the Dasher too but it looks like the gummed up linkage and gearbox took their toll on the wiper motor. :( At least they're freed up and ready for a good used motor! We left with only my work van and Rabbit running and now I've added 2 more to the list of RUNNING vehicles! Nice feeling! :) Sorry to ramble so much. Loren From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Mon Jan 6 22:02:39 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] The trip: A tale of cross country encounters. :) References: <14f.19d52851.2b4ba55a@aol.com> Message-ID: What areas of Texas did you visit? Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:36 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] The trip: A tale of cross country encounters. :) > Thought I might as well do an update as to how things went since I've been > back since Thursday evening. > First day was a great meeting with Dave and Jim. I never realized LaGrande > was such a windy place. Heck, most everywhere but here and Dave Barbieri's > seemed to be windy! Had breakfast with Dave and Jim, then stood outside > talking until we were shivering something fierce, then we were on our way > again. > We drove straight through the rest of the trip and I swear it keeps getting > harder and harder to do that! I don't think it's likely to happen again > unless > we're driving something you can lay down and sleep in! > After a few days of cold and flu in OK, I set out for TX. My wife kind of > kicked me out so I'd go. By the time I was to OK City, I wondered what > on Earth I was doing! This was a LONG bloody drive and I had nobody > to keep me awake or spell me off. I also had next to nothing of a radio, > no CD player (that I knew of, it was in the back of my seat!) and the DVD > player with all the mp3 cds were also back at the in-laws. :P The POS > radio did manage to pickup country or oldies most of the way down. I never > changed the station, it would just drift from station to station with the > frequency not matching what was indicated. Kind of strange, oldies and > country was all it'd get! On the way back it got stuck on some classical > station no matter where I tuned so I gave up then found the CD and tape > adapter. :) > About 6 hours later I was meeting Dave Barbieri. I followed him to a motel > where we stayed up and talked until about 1:00 or some stupid hour! He > came back in the AM and we went for breakfast. Of course more talk of > VW's and diesels! He showed me around to the local dealer and VW > private specialty shop. They have ALL the equipment there! :) Don't > ask me where anything was. We wandered all over different roads to > different towns each time until I was thoroughly confused! The next > day we visited the local injector pump repair facility where we visited > with them for nearly 2 hours! Learned a few things. :) After that we > headed for another dealer and picked up a gasket for the Passat. I > had a slight exhaust leak between the EGR and the EGR cooler. > Replacing it did seem to help some so the car did run better on the > return trip but nothing drastic. No real mileage improvement, which > was suffering from the speeds we were doing. > About 2:00 and I was on my way back to Dallas. Hit a MAJOR rain > storm which traffic managed to keep doing 70 to 80 mph through. It > was actually much easier to see than doing about 50mph! A few > phone calls and I was set to meet Hayden and Shalyn at an exit > on the way. Problem was the meeting place was at a different exit! ;-) > It all worked out and we visited there too long again. ;-) This group > can sure visit when you're talking VW diesels! Then I was off again > at a steady 85 arriving back in northern OK at about 11:30 only to > get up in the AM and start out back home. > Instead of coming home across TX, AZ and up through CA and OR, we > doubled back. It was a couple days shorter and Pat wanted to spend > the time with her parents. That's why I went to TX by myself. > All in all the Passat ran flawlessly. Mileage was mostly 40 with a > 45 across WY and about 41 to 42 some of the way home. We drove > mostly 75 ish down and a fair bit of 80 on the way home. Whoever > thought we needed slow speed limits never drove across a few states! > 80 to 90 would be a good speed for the intestates! Not once was there > a complaint about leg room from the two teenagers in the backseat. :) > Handling was great. The Michelin Alpins did great on the snow and ice > with just the usual hopping about as you went from dry to compact snow. > Even through several inches of slush I was able to hold about 65 in order to > pass on the Blue Mountains. You don't want to follow ANYBODY there! > They GRAVEL the highway for winter traction. Ain't no sand, it's like the > stuff they use to resurface the road! > I finally got the Rabbit nearly cleaned out! It still had antifreeze int > the > carpet from the leaking connections so I flushed and flushed then vac'd > it out. I've finally gotten most of the "crap" out and put or thrown away. > Then I did a water pump on the mini van. What a pain. Today was a > good one though. :) I got the bolts from Nate, in the mail, for the Jetta > turbo so I got them in. THAT car's now done and drivable! YAY! I got > the parking brake lever back in Pat's van (after a couple years) so IT'S > done! We tried getting some work done on the Dasher too but it looks > like the gummed up linkage and gearbox took their toll on the wiper > motor. :( At least they're freed up and ready for a good used motor! > We left with only my work van and Rabbit running and now I've added > 2 more to the list of RUNNING vehicles! Nice feeling! :) > Sorry to ramble so much. > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From dsnyder at goodnet.com Mon Jan 6 21:24:23 2003 From: dsnyder at goodnet.com (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Found some new German Pistons for $350. Thanks! Dave -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On Behalf Of greg rich Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:35 PM To: vwdiesel@vwfans.com Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions RE: TD engine questions 2) For four oversized German TD pistons with rings, I'm getting quoted just under $500 locally. Does anyone out there know of or have a source for these with a little better price? I know I can get a set of 0.5mm oversize turbo diesel pistons for $600 CDN funds including taxes, you should be able to do much better then $600 USD!! Greg _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From shea at gtsdesign.com Mon Jan 6 21:43:57 2003 From: shea at gtsdesign.com (Gary Shea) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Where'd you get 'em? C'mon man, let us in on it! Gary On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, at 21:24 [-0700], Dave Snyder (dsnyder@goodnet.com) wrote: > Found some new German Pistons for $350. > > > Thanks! > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On > Behalf Of greg rich > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:35 PM > To: vwdiesel@vwfans.com > Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions > > > > > > > > > > > > RE: TD engine questions > > 2) For four oversized German TD pistons with rings, I'm getting quoted just > under $500 locally. Does anyone out there know of or have a source for > these with a little better price? > > I know I can get a set of 0.5mm oversize turbo diesel pistons for $600 CDN > funds including taxes, you should be able to do much better then $600 USD!! > Greg > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > From LBaird119 at aol.com Tue Jan 7 00:33:05 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] The trip: A tale of cross country encounters. :) Message-ID: <1a7.edd4c05.2b4bc091@aol.com> > What areas of Texas did you visit? South on I-35 to Dallas to I-635 to hwy 80 to I-20 to Tyler area, Overton, Kilgore, New London and back. Loren From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Tue Jan 7 00:22:47 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] The trip: A tale of cross country encounters. :) References: <1a7.edd4c05.2b4bc091@aol.com> Message-ID: I live just south of Tyler, in a little town called "Whitehouse". I wish I had known you were going to be in the area. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] The trip: A tale of cross country encounters. :) > > What areas of Texas did you visit? > > South on I-35 to Dallas to I-635 to hwy 80 to I-20 to Tyler area, Overton, > Kilgore, New London and back. > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From teacher525 at juno.com Tue Jan 7 00:42:55 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TD Injection Pump locking hole/Tachometer Message-ID: <20030107.004456.-1004835.2.teacher525@juno.com> Thanks, Christian. Apparently the 86 Jetta TD injection pump sprocket just has one hole meant for the alignment pin. Its funny we are talking about the best socket tool to use which has nothing to do with fitting a nut! Its interesting that outside dimensions of different companies tools vary. I'm actually not timing the injection pump but using the sprocket as part of a design for adding a tachometer signal. In Roger Brown's Tachometer signal design for diesels, http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/Diesel/CheapTricks/Tachometer/index.shtm l, a round cover plate inside the sprocket was used to reflect an infrared signal back to a sensor circuit to drive a tachometer. Instead of the cover plate, I'm going to try using the outside sprocket rim to reflect the signal; put on some flat black paint and glue on 4 sections of aluminum foil or mylar tape. Sensor Alignment may be a bit more tricky as the rim is only about 3/16 inch wide. Should be enough to reflect the signal though. > The 7/16, 1/4" drive Craftsman socket does indeed fit, however, I've > found that using a 1/4" drive older style Craftsman 11mm deep > results in an > even tighter fit. There's less than .005" slop. 25 years ago, I > took > that socket out of circulation, and keep it for setting injector > pumps. > I don't have a loose pump sprocket hanging around, but if you want, > I could > at least mic the socket. Advise if you want me to do so. > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From dsnyder at goodnet.com Tue Jan 7 05:35:57 2003 From: dsnyder at goodnet.com (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I'll post it after they get hear and prove to be real! -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On Behalf Of Gary Shea Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 9:44 PM To: vwdiesel@vwfans.com Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions Where'd you get 'em? C'mon man, let us in on it! Gary On Mon, 6 Jan 2003, at 21:24 [-0700], Dave Snyder (dsnyder@goodnet.com) wrote: > Found some new German Pistons for $350. > > > Thanks! > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On > Behalf Of greg rich > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 5:35 PM > To: vwdiesel@vwfans.com > Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TD engine questions > > > > > > > > > > > > RE: TD engine questions > > 2) For four oversized German TD pistons with rings, I'm getting quoted just > under $500 locally. Does anyone out there know of or have a source for > these with a little better price? > > I know I can get a set of 0.5mm oversize turbo diesel pistons for $600 CDN > funds including taxes, you should be able to do much better then $600 USD!! > Greg > > > _________________________________________________________________ > STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Tue Jan 7 09:08:28 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> <002a01c2b5e1$aa007160$147e58cf@w2kclient> Message-ID: <3E1ADF5C.700AD2E@opei.org> Is the A-2 Jetta w/ the load sensing proportioning valve near the rear axle (the Golfs have a valve of some sorts on the master cylinder). They are about $150+ (US Dollars) from your friendly VW dealer. I do believe German Auto Parts (on the net?) has them for about $85. Someone else sells OEM, though I know. I know someone on the list knows who. Before I got wise, I shelled out the $150 when mine leaked. --Nate crusader wrote: > After much frustration, I broke down and took to car to my local mechanic > who also believes that it is the proportioning valve. He also added that it > is pricey. > > Does anyone know of a used one for sale? > > Thanks, > > Kerry > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Boyer" > To: "Nate Wall" ; "crusader" > Cc: > Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > I had a bad rear wheel cylinder on an A1 and it just wouldn't bleed. It > > didn't leak > > in the pressure mode, but it sucked in air when it retracted. I bled the > > damn thing > > for hours until I talked to a buddy who suggested replacing it. Cured it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris Boyer > > San Diego > > > > At 10:59 AM 12/30/02 -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > > >What type of VW? The A-2 Jettas have a load-sensing proportioning valve > > >next to the rear axle beam that sometimes leaks fluid. > > > > > >--Nate > > > > > >crusader wrote: > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > -- > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > Thanks to all of you who responded to my question last week about my > > > failing master cylinder. I replaced it and bled all 4 wheels. However, > > > on the rear driver side, the line bubbled and foamed no matter how much > I > > > bled. After noticing that I had good "pedal" I gave up. > > > > > > > > Now, four days later, my pedal started to sink and after two more days > > > I was back to pumping 3-4 times before I got any braking action. The > > > difference now, is that after I pump it up, the pedal does not sink as > before. > > > > > > > > I just bled that back wheel again and I continue to get foaming fluid > > > out of the wheel cylinder. Can the wheel cylinder be the problem? > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > > > Kerry > > > > -- > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Tue Jan 7 08:17:10 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> <002a01c2b5e1$aa007160$147e58cf@w2kclient> <3E1ADF5C.700AD2E@opei.org> Message-ID: When I need OEM parts I always go to www.germanautoparts.com and www.vwparts.com first. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nate Wall" To: "crusader" Cc: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:08 AM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > Is the A-2 Jetta w/ the load sensing proportioning valve near the rear axle (the > Golfs have a valve of some sorts on the master cylinder). They are about $150+ > (US Dollars) from your friendly VW dealer. I do believe German Auto Parts (on > the net?) has them for about $85. Someone else sells OEM, though I know. I know > someone on the list knows who. Before I got wise, I shelled out the $150 when > mine leaked. > > --Nate From forrestking at juno.com Tue Jan 7 08:23:03 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems Message-ID: <20030107.082304.1408.0.forrestking@juno.com> adirondack (www.germanautoparts.com) does not always sell OEm stuff - I just had a small battle with them over a beck arnely sensor they sold me calling it 'OEM' - the guy said ' well, your connector fits on it, and the sensor fits in the hole, that's OEM' Forrest On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:17:10 -0600 "TexasTDI" writes: > When I need OEM parts I always go to www.germanautoparts.com and > www.vwparts.com first. > > Chris Thornton > 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles > 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles > 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE > Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 > http://www.amsoil.com > http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nate Wall" > To: "crusader" > Cc: > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:08 AM > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > > Is the A-2 Jetta w/ the load sensing proportioning valve near the > rear > axle (the > > Golfs have a valve of some sorts on the master cylinder). They are > about > $150+ > > (US Dollars) from your friendly VW dealer. I do believe German > Auto Parts > (on > > the net?) has them for about $85. Someone else sells OEM, though I > know. I > know > > someone on the list knows who. Before I got wise, I shelled out > the $150 > when > > mine leaked. > > > > --Nate > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From nwall at opei.org Tue Jan 7 09:35:02 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles References: <3E1A3173.3070706@flash.net> Message-ID: <3E1AE596.ED52CDC@opei.org> How's the rust on it? I can deal w/ almost anything, but bad rust is one thing I can't. Now if I knew how to weld in sheed metal and panels, that'd be a different story. That's a skill I'd love to have! --nate Shalyn Shourds wrote: > > > > > >My theory is that the compression may be a little low. (The rings are cold > >and they've been sitting for a long time so there's no oil to help them > >seal). Get that motor turning at 2000 RPM's and the oil pumps up there and > >it generates a little heat, the rings re-seat themselves and vrooom! > > > >My thoughts! > > > >By the way, any pictures of your '65? > > > >Good luck. > > > >Dave in Phoenix > > > > > > Thanks for the enormous response! I'll poke the hose in a can of ATF > and see what happens. Maybe running some of that fresh fuel through it > will have helped it loosen up. I did notice a lot more white smoke when > I got the fresh stuff worked through the system. I think I found a > major piece of the problem with the clutch, so I may be able to get that > working, too. > > I'd love to get some pictures up but I haven't invested in a digital > camera or a scanner yet. I have thought about finding a cheap used one > for garage use. Figured it might be helpful for those things (like drum > brakes) that you just can't quite remember how it went together before > you took it apart. Would be a lot easier to document the process, too. > The car's quite the sight now with all the chrome off, weeds still > stuck in it, vestiges of white paint marking up the even coat of rust, > etc. When my dad's wife saw it for the first time, she was open-jaw > shocked. Then she started talking to me like my girfriend had just > dumped me, my dog had just died, and someone had just told me the > Monkees didn't play their own music. You just gotta see into the > potential:). > > -Shalyn > > -85 Jetta TD > -65 MB 190Dc > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Tue Jan 7 10:33:49 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems References: <20030107.082304.1408.0.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <3E1AF35D.AD155D93@opei.org> <<>> That's aftermarket! --Nate Forrest L King wrote: > adirondack (www.germanautoparts.com) does not always sell OEm stuff - I > just had a small battle with them over a beck arnely sensor they sold me > calling it 'OEM' - the guy said ' well, your connector fits on it, and > the sensor fits in the hole, that's OEM' > > Forrest > > On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 08:17:10 -0600 "TexasTDI" > writes: > > When I need OEM parts I always go to www.germanautoparts.com and > > www.vwparts.com first. > > > > Chris Thornton > > 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles > > 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles > > 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE > > Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 > > http://www.amsoil.com > > http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Nate Wall" > > To: "crusader" > > Cc: > > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:08 AM > > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > > > > > Is the A-2 Jetta w/ the load sensing proportioning valve near the > > rear > > axle (the > > > Golfs have a valve of some sorts on the master cylinder). They are > > about > > $150+ > > > (US Dollars) from your friendly VW dealer. I do believe German > > Auto Parts > > (on > > > the net?) has them for about $85. Someone else sells OEM, though I > > know. I > > know > > > someone on the list knows who. Before I got wise, I shelled out > > the $150 > > when > > > mine leaked. > > > > > > --Nate > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com From LBaird119 at aol.com Tue Jan 7 10:50:13 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Bringing out the paddles Message-ID: <10.2adb1904.2b4c5135@aol.com> In a message dated 1/7/2003 6:42:24 AM Pacific Standard Time, nwall@opei.org writes: > Now if I knew how to weld in sheet metal and panels, that'd be a > different story. That's a skill I'd love to have! Practice practice. :) I end up doing most of mine with an arc welder and no high frequency start! One of these days I'll have to convert the mig from aluminum to steel (it's just sitting there!) Loren From h_hagar at prcn.org Tue Jan 7 08:52:36 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps -- Rabbit 1980 and 1982 -- BOSH only. Message-ID: <000c01c2b66d$450bffe0$18ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I was high and mighty ---LOL --now? one fot in the poor house. ----Oldsmob= ile Royal Bxxxx V8 diesel -has not turned a wheel for 3-4-years----last hop= e a VW diesel rabbit or gulf.The 1982 ----is now on the street with a xxxx= xxBosh 107A pump from a 1500cc scrapper feeding a 1600cc ----and working f= ine ----LOL Thanks to this forum.------you all know who you are ---special = thanks to Gary Orlando. Was surpricea at how easy it was to change pump ----a piece of cake ----(Ia= m not a mechanic ---more than 70 years yung and one arm not working right a= nd painful joints in hands ) The sun is shining ---got to go driving ----LOL ---Thanks. -- From nwall at opei.org Tue Jan 7 12:07:30 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps -- Rabbit 1980 and 1982 -- BOSH only. References: <000c01c2b66d$450bffe0$18ccb5d0@prcn.org> Message-ID: <3E1B0952.DCBC06E1@opei.org> That's the beauty of this list! --Nate "H .Hagar" wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I was high and mighty ---LOL --now? one fot in the poor house. ----Oldsmobile Royal Bxxxx V8 diesel -has not turned a wheel for 3-4-years----last hope a VW diesel rabbit or gulf.The 1982 ----is now on the street with a xxxxxxBosh 107A pump from a 1500cc scrapper feeding a 1600cc ----and working fine ----LOL Thanks to this forum.------you all know who you are ---special thanks to Gary Orlando. > > Was surpricea at how easy it was to change pump ----a piece of cake ----(Iam not a mechanic ---more than 70 years yung and one arm not working right and painful joints in hands ) > > The sun is shining ---got to go driving ----LOL ---Thanks. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From LBaird119 at aol.com Tue Jan 7 12:47:27 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps -- Rabbit 1980 and 1982 -- BOSH only. Message-ID: <76.2845bfd3.2b4c6caf@aol.com> > Oldsmobile Royal Bxxxx V8 diesel -has not turned a wheel for 3-4-years Dad had a 79 pickup with that engine. Never had a problem with the engine in the 70K miles he had it. Pump went out and it never started quite right after that. Rode and drove like a dream! Also never needed snow tires. It was a real sad day when they sold that one. Practically gave it away too. :( Loren From magnificationbill at hotmail.com Tue Jan 7 12:59:35 2003 From: magnificationbill at hotmail.com (Bill Kelly) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! Message-ID: [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] Hi All, I may just go ahead and purchase a TDI - possibly new, probably used, maybe 1998-2001. I'm perusing the internet ( TDI page, ect...) , but I'd really like any good/bad/ugly from THE group about the Jetta TDI ( wagon and sedan)and the Golf GLS TDI. I've test driven a couple of TDI Beetles and LOVED 'em, but space considerations dictate the Jetta or Golf. I sell surgical equipment, and currently travel Georgia and Tennessee in my 91 ECOdiesel....I'd be driving the TDI most likely 200K miles over the next few years, 80 percent highway. I like the looks and hatchback of the Golf, but which one would be quieter/ better suited to highway work ? Would the GLS have extra sound insulation ? I prefer a 5 spd, but may consider my wife and get an auto. I tested a 2000 Golf TDI and was unimpressed w/ the automatic's tendency to hesitate a second before Drive or Reverse engaged. Is this a characteristic or was my experience unusual ( the test car had about 30k miles ) ? Are 1998-2002 TDI's all basically the same mechanically ? I've been reading quite a number of negative comments on Jettas / Golfs in general-i.e, electrical problems, window lifts, check engine lights run amok, interior trim falling off on new cars, ect. I also read just as many comments praising the cars' fit and finish. Go figure..... Sorry for the length. I may be making a decision fairly soon - thanks for any comments... Bill ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ get 2 months FREE*[1] ===References:=== 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMFEN/2015 From nwall at opei.org Tue Jan 7 13:50:38 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:13 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! References: Message-ID: <3E1B217D.1798076E@opei.org> My Experience from Mom's 2000 Jetta TDI: Her "check engine light" came on at about 17,000 miles. Still drives fine. Its still on (about 3 months later) and may stay on 'til it gets a timing belt at 40,000 miles (the stipulated change interval for it), or I get the software and reader. The dealer wanted about 100 to turn it off and tell her what the problem is. Since it drives fine, the light will stay on. I heard the IC gets gummed up and performance suffers and it has to be cleaned periodically. Starting w/ the 2000 TDI, a variable vane turbo is used which spools up faster. For some reason she gets about 42 MPG in hers, but she does not shift properly (4th gear at 55 mph, and the like) and limits driving to short trips in town mostly. On a highway trip, she got about 55 MPG. Last night a guy at the diesel pump said he gets 55 MPG in his 2002 Jetta TDI. I bet that automatic tranny lag is partly related to the turbo lag. Bill Kelly wrote: > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > Hi All, > > I may just go ahead and purchase a TDI - possibly new, probably used, maybe > 1998-2001. I'm perusing the internet ( TDI page, ect...) , but I'd really like > any good/bad/ugly from THE group about the Jetta TDI ( wagon and sedan)and the > Golf GLS TDI. I've test driven a couple of TDI Beetles and LOVED 'em, but > space considerations dictate the Jetta or Golf. I sell surgical equipment, and > currently travel Georgia and Tennessee in my 91 ECOdiesel....I'd be driving the > TDI most likely 200K miles over the next few years, 80 percent highway. I like > the looks and hatchback of the Golf, but which one would be quieter/ better > suited to highway work ? Would the GLS have extra sound insulation ? > I prefer a 5 spd, but may consider my wife and get an auto. I tested a 2000 > Golf TDI and was unimpressed w/ the automatic's tendency to hesitate a second > before Drive or Reverse engaged. Is this a characteristic or was my experience > unusual ( the test car had about 30k miles ) ? Are 1998-2002 TDI's all > basically the same mechanically ? > I've been reading quite a number of negative comments on Jettas / Golfs in > general-i.e, electrical problems, window lifts, check engine lights run amok, > interior trim falling off on new cars, ect. I also read just as many comments > praising the cars' fit and finish. Go figure..... > > Sorry for the length. I may be making a decision fairly soon - thanks for any > comments... > > Bill > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > get 2 months FREE*[1] > > ===References:=== > 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMFEN/2015 > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From maded at gte.net Tue Jan 7 11:39:11 2003 From: maded at gte.net (maded) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1.6na vanagon engine needed Message-ID: I have a friend whose Vanagon is stuck in Placerville,CA with a "Blown" engine. The trouble is, the fellow whose shop it is inspires no confidence. Anyone with a Vanagon engine or turbo diesel in the central California area have an engine in reasonable condition at low cost to do a swap? We would have her dad take the van to the real shop and just change it out. -- Ed Lowe, Seattle 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td 85 Golf diesel 92 Cabrio 97 Passat Tdi From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Tue Jan 7 14:45:45 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! References: Message-ID: 1999.5 - 2003 Golf and Jetta TDI's are the same, except for minor option changes. They ride the same, sound the same, etc, because they're built on the same platform. The Golf is a little more "sporty" and can take corners better than a Jetta. A jetta likes to fishtail, probably because of the trunk overhang. The Golf has better rear headroom, and hauls stuff easier than the Jetta. Golf is now made in Brazil, Jetta is now made in Mexico, but the Jetta Wagon is still made in Germany. Used German Golfs can be found (all my VW's are German built), not sure if Jetta TDI's where ever built in Germany. Just look at the first 3 characters in the VIN to see where the car was built. W V W = Germany 3 V W = Mexico 9 B W = Brazil 5 speeds get way better fuel mileage, and are more fun to drive IMO, than automatics. MAF sensors failing are a common problem that VW has yet to address. But the breaking window regulator clips are now being replaced free of charge. Early TDI's were plagued with Glow Plug problems. This is probably the CE problems your referring to. Go to www.tdiclub.com and http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x for all the info on TDI's you'll ever need or want. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 233k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 74k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Kelly" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:59 AM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! > [ Converted text/html to text/plain ] > Hi All, > > I may just go ahead and purchase a TDI - possibly new, probably used, maybe > 1998-2001. I'm perusing the internet ( TDI page, ect...) , but I'd really like > any good/bad/ugly from THE group about the Jetta TDI ( wagon and sedan)and the > Golf GLS TDI. I've test driven a couple of TDI Beetles and LOVED 'em, but > space considerations dictate the Jetta or Golf. I sell surgical equipment, and > currently travel Georgia and Tennessee in my 91 ECOdiesel....I'd be driving the > TDI most likely 200K miles over the next few years, 80 percent highway. I like > the looks and hatchback of the Golf, but which one would be quieter/ better > suited to highway work ? Would the GLS have extra sound insulation ? > I prefer a 5 spd, but may consider my wife and get an auto. I tested a 2000 > Golf TDI and was unimpressed w/ the automatic's tendency to hesitate a second > before Drive or Reverse engaged. Is this a characteristic or was my experience > unusual ( the test car had about 30k miles ) ? Are 1998-2002 TDI's all > basically the same mechanically ? > I've been reading quite a number of negative comments on Jettas / Golfs in > general-i.e, electrical problems, window lifts, check engine lights run amok, > interior trim falling off on new cars, ect. I also read just as many comments > praising the cars' fit and finish. Go figure..... > > Sorry for the length. I may be making a decision fairly soon - thanks for any > comments... > > Bill > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > get 2 months FREE*[1] > > ===References:=== > 1. http://g.msn.com/8HMFEN/2015 > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From LBaird119 at aol.com Tue Jan 7 17:18:52 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! Message-ID: <162.19c2266a.2b4cac4c@aol.com> For comfort and room you can't beat a Passat. You're limited to used 96 and 97 models though. Someone listed a couple Passat wagon TDI's on the vw newsgroup recently. He wants in the $8000 to $9000 range. Not too bad. Dad's Passat sedan makes about 45 to 48mpg on trips. It's always loaded. On our trip it made a good 40 mostly. He doesn't manage to get enough miles on it just puttering around at lower speeds to get a good grasp of the mileage when you keep it 60mph and under! If I had the cash to just go get one, I'd get the Passat wagon. Much more rear seat room in the Passats than the Jettas. Loren From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Wed Jan 8 10:30:23 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! In-Reply-To: <3E1B217D.1798076E@opei.org> from "Nate Wall" at Jan 07, 2003 01:50:38 PM Message-ID: <200301081530.h08FUNX15703@elektro.cmhnet.org> Earlier, Nate Wall wrote: > > My Experience from Mom's 2000 Jetta TDI: > > Her "check engine light" came on at about 17,000 miles. Still drives > fine. Its still on (about 3 months later) and may stay on 'til it > gets a timing belt at 40,000 miles (the stipulated change interval > for it), or I get the software and reader. The dealer wanted about > 100 to turn it off and tell her what the problem is. Since it drives > fine, the light will stay on. I heard the IC gets gummed up and > performance suffers and it has to be cleaned periodically. A good source for OBD II software and an interface that understands the earlier Bosch interface ishere. Once you buy the interface adapter, future software updates are included and free. This will allow you to read and reset service codes like you are seeing: http://www.Ross-Tech.com/ And speaking of good web sites ... for any of you with later TDIs with computer control, here's Jo Hoppen's site. He is the US distributor of MTM products: http://hoppenmotorsport.com/ - Charlie Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features 97 Dodge Ram - 35 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel From largiader at worldlynx.net Wed Jan 8 17:21:26 2003 From: largiader at worldlynx.net (Anton Largiader) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! References: Message-ID: <3E1CA466.7010903@worldlynx.net> Basically I love my '98 Jetta TDI. I tow MCs with it, do a lot of commuting, and everything else. Mechanically it's been as reliable as I could want. The power window regulators do break (I have manual and no problems) and VW recently announced some measures to help owners with that problem. AFAIK they all have similar insulation; I'm pretty sure it doesn't vary between GL and GLS versions. Can't see how it would be feasible to make it two ways. I know of no widespread CEL problems... a few cases get mentioned but it's mostly people who just don't do anything about it. The causes often come from clogged intake manifolds and related parts (caused by a poor implementation of EGR on these cars) or apparently by glow plug stuff (never had it happen to me). The EGR issue is probably the only real weakness the engine has, and it can be fixed pretty easily (by turning down the EGR quantity used). - Anton From turbobrick at hotmail.com Wed Jan 8 23:47:53 2003 From: turbobrick at hotmail.com (Jeff Rakus) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fuel starvation. Message-ID: Hi folks, I seem to have a fuel starvation problem with my '89 Jetta diesel. I can get it going but after a minute or so it starts to stumble and die. Sometimes you can rev it a bit but that won't do it after a while.. The oil light will flash after the engine dies and the battery light will of course come on but it has the proper amount of fresh Rotella 15-40. Do these have a in tank pre-pump? Tnx, Jeff _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From iscass at shaw.ca Wed Jan 8 23:40:04 2003 From: iscass at shaw.ca (cass) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] fun car? Message-ID: <01df01c2b7b2$53452fa0$22c75018@ccl475> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] http://www.vwvortex.com go to 'news' scroll down..just before half way down.. hit on 'vw one liter concept' :o) just fer fun. From dsnyder at goodnet.com Thu Jan 9 05:43:54 2003 From: dsnyder at goodnet.com (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1.6na vanagon engine needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone out there have a pair of or even one A1 hood hinges for sale? (Needed for a 1982 Rabbit Pickup) Dave -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On Behalf Of maded Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:39 PM To: diesel list; diesel fans Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1.6na vanagon engine needed I have a friend whose Vanagon is stuck in Placerville,CA with a "Blown" engine. The trouble is, the fellow whose shop it is inspires no confidence. Anyone with a Vanagon engine or turbo diesel in the central California area have an engine in reasonable condition at low cost to do a swap? We would have her dad take the van to the real shop and just change it out. -- Ed Lowe, Seattle 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td 85 Golf diesel 92 Cabrio 97 Passat Tdi _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From dsnyder at goodnet.com Thu Jan 9 05:55:57 2003 From: dsnyder at goodnet.com (Dave Snyder) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Sorry about previous Subject should be Parts Needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Anyone out there have a pair of or even one A1 hood hinges for sale? (Needed for a 1982 Rabbit Pickup) Dave -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On Behalf Of Dave Snyder Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 5:44 AM To: diesel list; diesel fans Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] 1.6na vanagon engine needed Anyone out there have a pair of or even one A1 hood hinges for sale? (Needed for a 1982 Rabbit Pickup) Dave -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On Behalf Of maded Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:39 PM To: diesel list; diesel fans Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1.6na vanagon engine needed I have a friend whose Vanagon is stuck in Placerville,CA with a "Blown" engine. The trouble is, the fellow whose shop it is inspires no confidence. Anyone with a Vanagon engine or turbo diesel in the central California area have an engine in reasonable condition at low cost to do a swap? We would have her dad take the van to the real shop and just change it out. -- Ed Lowe, Seattle 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td 85 Golf diesel 92 Cabrio 97 Passat Tdi _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 9 08:56:18 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! References: <3E1CA466.7010903@worldlynx.net> Message-ID: <3E1D7F82.1BBF0637@opei.org> <<>> I like that idea. How is this done? Perhaps I could do Mom a favor. (The US EPA did'nt see my type that!) --Nate Anton Largiader wrote: > Basically I love my '98 Jetta TDI. I tow MCs with it, do a lot of > commuting, and everything else. Mechanically it's been as reliable as I > could want. > > The power window regulators do break (I have manual and no problems) and > VW recently announced some measures to help owners with that problem. > AFAIK they all have similar insulation; I'm pretty sure it doesn't vary > between GL and GLS versions. Can't see how it would be feasible to make > it two ways. > > I know of no widespread CEL problems... a few cases get mentioned but > it's mostly people who just don't do anything about it. The causes > often come from clogged intake manifolds and related parts (caused by a > poor implementation of EGR on these cars) or apparently by glow plug > stuff (never had it happen to me). The EGR issue is probably the only > real weakness the engine has, and it can be fixed pretty easily (by > turning down the EGR quantity used). > > - Anton > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From largiader at worldlynx.net Thu Jan 9 09:50:24 2003 From: largiader at worldlynx.net (Anton Largiader) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! References: <3E1CA466.7010903@worldlynx.net> <3E1D7F82.1BBF0637@opei.org> Message-ID: <3E1D8C30.7090103@worldlynx.net> Need to tweak it with VAG-COM. I'll be able to do that for you in about a week when I have a laptop again. I'm generally in Gaithersburg MD.. you're not that far away, are you? Nate Wall wrote: > << real weakness the engine has, and it can be fixed pretty easily (by > turning down the EGR quantity used).>>> > > I like that idea. How is this done? Perhaps I could do Mom a favor. (The US > EPA did'nt see my type that!) > > --Nate - Anton From h_hagar at prcn.org Thu Jan 9 06:30:55 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Gensets--using --VW diesels. Message-ID: <001001c2b7eb$b9280340$3fccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I GET info from here about how to keep rabbit "RUNNING" ----LOL --- I GIVE= info on gensets ---(have lots to give LOL ) First 60 Hz 110-220 -----common standby --for you all know where. (I = loose power a lot). Notice that VW engines are rated in KW---look in Bentley book.The engines a= re HIGH SPEED diesels.---that is good or bad depending.I refer to AC machi= nes as alternators ---and DC machines as GENERATORS. If I was to make AC unit for house use (I have a lister 50KW --so I am no= t) I would go for a two pole , that makes the direct drive work out to 3600= RPM. The poles are found on the rotor (DC fields) --The power windings are found= on the STATOR , and can be 3 Phase 6 Phase --for a beginner standby , I = would use single PHASE. Governor qestions ?? LOL some other day , have= fun Hagar. -- From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Thu Jan 9 08:49:55 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! References: <3E1CA466.7010903@worldlynx.net> <3E1D7F82.1BBF0637@opei.org> Message-ID: You have to use VAG-COM. The FAQ section at www.tdiclub.com has the procedure. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nate Wall" To: "Anton Largiader" Cc: "Bill Kelly" ; Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:56 AM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Possible TDI Purchase: Feed Needback ! > << real weakness the engine has, and it can be fixed pretty easily (by > turning down the EGR quantity used).>>> > > I like that idea. How is this done? Perhaps I could do Mom a favor. (The US > EPA did'nt see my type that!) > > --Nate > > Anton Largiader wrote: > > > Basically I love my '98 Jetta TDI. I tow MCs with it, do a lot of > > commuting, and everything else. Mechanically it's been as reliable as I > > could want. > > > > The power window regulators do break (I have manual and no problems) and > > VW recently announced some measures to help owners with that problem. > > AFAIK they all have similar insulation; I'm pretty sure it doesn't vary > > between GL and GLS versions. Can't see how it would be feasible to make > > it two ways. > > > > I know of no widespread CEL problems... a few cases get mentioned but > > it's mostly people who just don't do anything about it. The causes > > often come from clogged intake manifolds and related parts (caused by a > > poor implementation of EGR on these cars) or apparently by glow plug > > stuff (never had it happen to me). The EGR issue is probably the only > > real weakness the engine has, and it can be fixed pretty easily (by > > turning down the EGR quantity used). > > > > - Anton > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From dennis at pantazis.org Thu Jan 9 10:20:09 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] FW: [vegoil-diesel] 82 Westy diesel FS Message-ID: from the vegoil list. please contact them directly -----Original Message----- From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc [mailto:info@biofuels.ca] Sent: 08 January 2003 18:58 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: vegoil-diesel@yahoogroups.com Subject: [vegoil-diesel] 82 Westy diesel FS Anyone interested in good 82 non-turbo diesel Westy with fairly new engine and other recent work, good body etc., originally from California so can go back to US (currently in Western Canada. Looking for around $5500 US Also have a line on a 93 Eurovan Westfalia (full camper) diesel, Canadian issue, have to change odometer to miles to go to US - around $15,000 US Email me OFF LIST if interested. Thanks! Edward Beggs info@biofuels.ca From gilbeej at yahoo.com Thu Jan 9 08:46:51 2003 From: gilbeej at yahoo.com (E. J. Gilbert) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Problem Message-ID: <20030109164651.20881.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Group, I just replaced a leaking fuel injection pump on my 1981 VW PU with afterma= rket turbo. The engine idles very smooth and no leaks. The timing was set= to 0.94 with a dial indicator. The notch on the injection pump pulley was= slightly to the left of the mark on the mount. Whenever I accelerate in f= irst, second or third gear, the rpms build up nicely up to a certain point = and then increases very rapidly. This is below the turbo kick-in point. W= hen this happens, I take my foot completely off of the accelerator pedal, b= ut the rpms only decrease very slowly back to idle making it difficult to s= hift to the next gear with the motor racing. As long as I stay below this p= oint on the rpm's, everything is normal. Does anyone have any idea as to w= hat might be causing this? I can drive the PU the way it is, but have to w= atch my acceleration closely. Need whatever advice anyone has. Thanks, E.J. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 9 13:05:20 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Problem Message-ID: Turbo and turbo pump or regular, NA pump? It sounds like fuel is increasing. This could be from the pump or excessive oil being introduced to the intake. Fueling would be possible from a TD pump, not likely from an NA unless it's been sitting and is gummy inside. Oil could be from the turbo (new or used?) or rings most likely. Loren From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 9 14:43:26 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Problem References: Message-ID: <3E1DD0DE.EC184432@opei.org> At 300 miles per quart oil usage in the old motor I never experienced any noticeable "fueling" from the oil being burnt. It drove just fine, except power was a little down. --nate LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > Turbo and turbo pump or regular, NA pump? It sounds like fuel is > increasing. > This could be from the pump or excessive oil being introduced to the intake. > Fueling would be possible from a TD pump, not likely from an NA unless it's > been sitting and is gummy inside. Oil could be from the turbo (new or used?) > or rings most likely. > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From JoErnest at aol.com Thu Jan 9 19:08:14 2003 From: JoErnest at aol.com (JoErnest@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Importing an 89 Jetta TD from Canada Message-ID: <63ACC919.2C117F8F.007750CA@aol.com> Last summer when I was in Toronto visiting my cousins I bought an 89 Jetta TD over there. I would like to bring the car into the US so that I can install the TD in my 89 Westy Syncro and then drop a 1.6 naD I have into the Jetta. How do I go about getting the Jetta into the US? It is currently not "plated", but my cousin has dealer plates. Thanks for your help...........JoE From forrestking at juno.com Thu Jan 9 18:11:29 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit hood hinge (see I can change the subject) Message-ID: <20030109.182142.820.3.forrestking@juno.com> Dave, I have a line on a parts car - are these unhinges items that could be unbloted? if so - i am thinking cheap - like 20 and shipping... Forrest On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 05:43:54 -0700 "Dave Snyder" writes: > Anyone out there have a pair of or even one A1 hood hinges for sale? > (Needed for a 1982 Rabbit Pickup) > > Dave > > -----Original Message----- > From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com > [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On > Behalf Of maded > Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 12:39 PM > To: diesel list; diesel fans > Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1.6na vanagon engine needed > > > I have a friend whose Vanagon is stuck in Placerville,CA with a > "Blown" > engine. The trouble is, the fellow whose shop it is inspires no > confidence. > Anyone with a Vanagon engine or turbo diesel in the central > California area > have an engine in reasonable condition at low cost to do a swap? We > would > have her dad take the van to the real shop and just change it out. > > > -- > Ed Lowe, Seattle > 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td > 85 Golf diesel > 92 Cabrio > 97 Passat Tdi > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From forrestking at juno.com Thu Jan 9 18:09:40 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] fun car? Message-ID: <20030109.182142.820.2.forrestking@juno.com> that car is damn cool. I really like it - and wouldn't it be fun to construct something like that at your house? If we could find a small diesel engine ( i don't think we could ever get a "1 liter" ) and pull some fiberglass ocer a shell - that would be FUN. On Wed, 08 Jan 2003 23:40:04 -0800 cass writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > http://www.vwvortex.com > go to 'news' > scroll down..just before half way down.. > hit on 'vw one liter concept' > :o) just fer fun. > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 9 21:03:17 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Rabbit hood hinge (see I can change the subject) Message-ID: <19a.eae7436.2b4f83e5@aol.com> > Dave, I have a line on a parts car - are these unhinges items that could > be unbolted? if so - i am thinking cheap - like 20 and shipping... > The A1 hinges come off REAL easy. They amount to a kind of a "J" shaped piece of metal. The hood end has two bolts holding it to the hood. The body end is simply a hole that slides over a pivot. A retaining clip slips over the end of the pivot stud to keep it on. Loren From dennis at pantazis.org Thu Jan 9 20:53:20 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] free water dist hose for rabbit Message-ID: anyone need the lower hose from the water pump housing to water dist pipe for 77-84 rabbits and 79-83 jettas. also for gasser rabbits and i think scirrocos. its about 4 inches long, about 3/4 on the big end and 5/8 on the little end. new unused. free for the asking (i will splurge the $1 for postage). email off list please dennis From PREaton47 at aol.com Thu Jan 9 23:22:08 2003 From: PREaton47 at aol.com (PREaton47@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Question on head stud kits Message-ID: <62.2b3ba057.2b4fa470@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] A couple months back a fellow list member contacted ARP and had them look into supplying a 12mm headstud kit for the 1.6 diesel. ARP has done the research and developed a kit but now they want 5-10 orders to make it worthwhile for us to buy and them to make. The price I heard mentioned was about $148. Do we have enough interest to pursue this option? I need to order a kit from either Raceware or ARP and would prefer to go ARP to save some money and help get these kits established for us in the future. Can we get a count going? Also could someone enlighten me on the difference in torque specs between the two kits? ARP says 80lb/ft using their supplied moly lube and Raceware says 50lb/ft using 30W oil. Thanks, Ken Hougard From kadm at pugetsound.net Fri Jan 10 08:54:34 2003 From: kadm at pugetsound.net (Dana Morphew) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Question on head stud kits References: <62.2b3ba057.2b4fa470@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E1EFACA.1020506@pugetsound.net> I'd like a set, but money is just too tight right now. The suppliers (ARP and Raceware) would be the ones to go to for answers to the torque descrepancy question. Dana PREaton47@aol.com wrote: > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > A couple months back a fellow list member contacted ARP and had them look > into supplying a 12mm headstud kit for the 1.6 diesel. ARP has done the > research and developed a kit but now they want 5-10 orders to make it > worthwhile for us to buy and them to make. The price I heard mentioned was > about $148. Do we have enough interest to pursue this option? I need to order > a kit from either Raceware or ARP and would prefer to go ARP to save some > money and help get these kits established for us in the future. Can we get a > count going? > Also could someone enlighten me on the difference in torque specs between the > two kits? ARP says 80lb/ft using their supplied moly lube and Raceware says > 50lb/ft using 30W oil. > > Thanks, > Ken Hougard > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > . > > From h_hagar at prcn.org Fri Jan 10 09:19:13 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector --Heatshields--why change ?.Rabbit 1980-1982. Message-ID: <000e01c2b8cc$7f31bb40$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Can they be annealed --and reused ???--- I have --gas shild oven available ----Thanks. -- From weasel1 at sympatico.ca Fri Jan 10 12:31:46 2003 From: weasel1 at sympatico.ca (weasel) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Importing an 89 Jetta TD from Canada References: <63ACC919.2C117F8F.007750CA@aol.com> Message-ID: <001e01c2b8ce$274f7e10$ae72d1d8@derek> If all you need is the engine, why not tow it ?? ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Importing an 89 Jetta TD from Canada Last summer when I was in Toronto visiting my cousins I bought an 89 Jetta TD over there. I would like to bring the car into the US so that I can install the TD in my 89 Westy Syncro and then drop a 1.6 naD I have into the Jetta. How do I go about getting the Jetta into the US? It is currently not "plated", but my cousin has dealer plates. Thanks for your help...........JoE _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From LBaird119 at aol.com Fri Jan 10 16:18:24 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector --Heatshields--why change ?.Rabbit 1980-1982. Message-ID: <36.3633e2f1.2b5092a0@aol.com> Usually not even a concern about annealing them. The center originally puckers up a little where it meets the injector nozzle. This bends down and seals against it when tightened. If reused, the seal can leak carbon into the injector housing, which isn't a problem in itself until you try to disassemble the injector at some time. It also can let compression gasses leak out between the injector and head. That could erode the threads. To reuse one you need to pucker the center back up a little. I rest them on a socket the size of the OD then use a large center point punch to tap it back out. The center punch has the right taper to the point to set in the hole and push the surrounding metal just right. If there are cracks then toss. It's generally just considered easier to replace. :) Loren From forrestking at juno.com Fri Jan 10 17:38:50 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector --Heatshields--why change ?.Rabbit 1980-1982. Message-ID: <20030110.173850.844.1.forrestking@juno.com> heat shields are use once they compress when 1st tightened reuse causes leaks On Fri, 10 Jan 2003 09:19:13 -0800 "H .Hagar" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Can they be annealed --and reused ???--- I have --gas shild oven > available ----Thanks. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From h_hagar at prcn.org Sat Jan 11 17:00:27 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector -- heatshields ..Rabbit 1980 and 1982. Message-ID: <000c01c2b9d6$0f3a15c0$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thank you gentlemen's---you know who you are-LOL ---I shall now buy 4 new o= nes --(Just in case) ---and compare to old ones ----and I understand "the p= uckering" ------- Ps ---I have never INSTALLED an injector-LOL-but sure r= emoved a lot. Thanks again ---- Hagar (not my real name) ---live on the coast in = BC ----HWY 101. -- From h_hagar at prcn.org Sat Jan 11 17:24:29 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glowplug testing without removing wires. Rabbit 1980 and 1982. Message-ID: <000201c2b9d9$ccc06d80$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] My background is electrical , so for me it was painful to see a mechanic te= st a rabbit ---LOL Some time back was a way mentioned that used voltage drop across the copper= strap between plugs. I have done this for years --piece of cake. A cheap digital multimeter w= ill do (mine 14 dollars can).Use millivolt scale.The person missed the fact= that the fuse on the firewall is a perfect "Metershunt"-----Will explain t= o those who do not understand-----four plugs pull about 40 to 50 amps.---do= not overdo jumping to positive battery terminal '''' '''''power for no m= ore than 10 seconds at a time, let cool for ten and do it again. Shure = like to tinker with those little Hitlers V3 buggers. Hagar. = have fun -- From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Sat Jan 11 21:35:10 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 1.9 pistons, turbo, & pump FS Message-ID: <000901c2b9e3$3c0a06c0$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> NOT mine..... Found this browsing the Vortex forums, take a look if you need some parts. http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=659230 I know nothing about this stuff other than what I read in the ad. Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI From LBaird119 at aol.com Sat Jan 11 22:00:03 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injector -- heatshields ..Rabbit 1980 and 1982. Message-ID: <61.2bfd0cfc.2b523433@aol.com> > I have never INSTALLED an injector-LOL-but sure removed a lot One thing to remember is if you have an impact wrench it's best to remove injectors with it. If not then keep the torque square to the socket and push toward or across the head. Never pull toward you or you can crack the injector thread area of the head. Loren From scott3491 at insightbb.com Sun Jan 12 07:10:12 2003 From: scott3491 at insightbb.com (Scott Kair) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <000701c2ba3b$f2fe8b00$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> For those who have seen the ads linking SUVs to funding for terrorism, the source of the mischief has revealed herself. Gotta love it. They're scheduled to be on a couple of the Sunday morning Liars' Operas. Cheers, Scott Kair ----- Original Message ----- Subject: Arianna's Latest Column > Dear Friends, > > The anti-SUV ad campaign you helped create, which we have named > The Detroit Project, is unveiling our two 30-second ads (entirely > funded by your contributions) at a press conference in Los > Angeles at 10am this morning. The ads are available at > www.detroitproject.com. Also on our website will be a letter you > can send to Detroit's automakers, a form to fill out for those > dumping their SUVs, and a paypal link so that we can raise more > money and buy additional air time. The ads will start running on > the political talk shows this Sunday in major markets around the > country. > > All the best, > Arianna > > Road Outrage: How Corporate Greed And Political Corruption Paved > The Way For The SUV Explosion > > By Arianna Huffington > > America's automakers have finally sputtered into first gear. > > Responding to the growing public outcry over its reckless > gas-guzzling ways, the auto industry used the Detroit Auto Show > this week to unveil a line-up of "coming soon to a showroom near > you" hybrid vehicles -- including a number of hybrid SUVs. > > The question -- though I'm willing to bet no one at the car show > asked it -- is: What took them so long? After all, cars powered > by a combination of gas and electricity have been around since > 1905, when the Woods Motor Vehicle Co. offered a dual-powered > model. > > And while Detroit's sudden interest in hybrids after a > near-century of neglect is certainly a step in the right > direction, given the fact that many of the prototypes on display > in the Motor City won't be on showroom floors for years -- if > ever -- it's fair to wonder just how decisive a step it is. > > It's one thing to make a big show of rolling out glittering > "concept models" intended for future production -- or to promise, > as GM did, to have a million hybrid vehicles for sale by 2007 "if > demand is high" -- and quite another to commit the marketing > resources necessary to create the high demand. Time will tell if > the industry has really fallen in love with this new/old kid on > the block or if the industry's embrace of hybrid technology is > just a one night stand, a here-today-gone-tomorrow defensive > gambit for the PR cameras. > > We have ample reason to question the sincerity of the industry's > stated intentions. Anyone remember the Supercar, that 80 mpg > marvel that was supposed to hit the road by 2004 but instead > managed to eat up $1.5 billion in taxpayer money before being > abandoned on the side of the highway? Or the FreedomCAR, the Bush > administration's equally lame "responsible vehicle" partnership > with Detroit? Both highly touted programs allowed automakers to > look like they were sweating blood to improve fuel efficiency > while doing everything in their power to convince consumers to > buy more and more fuel-inefficient -- and hugely profitable -- > SUVs. > > For a good indication of Detroit's real plans, we need look no > further than this week's L.A. Auto Show. (Yes, I'm a regular on > the auto show circuit.) There were as many hybrid cars on display > as there were rickshaws. And in full page newspaper ads headlined > "What's Up At GM?" the auto giant bragged about having "once > again shattered the record for SUV sales, topping the million > mark for the second consecutive year -- propelled by breakout > vehicles like the one-of-a-kind Hummer H2." > > The sales deck is clearly stacked in favor of Detroit's beloved > behemoths, with billions being spent on SUV advertising and > ever-more tempting marketing come-ons, like GM's "Zero, Zero, > Zero" program which was introduced in December and offered > no-interest financing on 13 of its SUVs for up to 60 months -- > very tempting in these tough times. > > Of course, Washington continues to do its part by holding SUVs to > lower fuel efficiency and air pollution standards than passenger > cars. Our politicians have even refused to close a deeply > misguided tax loophole that rewards buyers of extra large -- and > extra wasteful -- SUVs with extra large tax breaks. > > Think of that: at a time when our leaders should be touting the > importance of reducing our dependence on foreign oil, the people > being given a financial incentive to purchase a new vehicle are > those buying fuel-chugging SUVs. > > "I was surprised," said Karl Wizinsky, a health care consultant > from Michigan who just bought a giant Ford Excursion even though > he admits he doesn't really need it, "that a $32,000 credit on a > $47,000 purchase was available in the first year. I mean, it is a > substantial credit." Yes, it is. And it's created a substantial > -- and artificial -- demand. > > It's the kind of lunatic public policy that makes you want to > slam on your brakes and scream out your car window: How can this > kind of thing happen? > > The answer is as simple as it is distressing: special interest > money has once again trumped the public interest. That's why the > auto industry was able to turn its back on hybrid technology for > so long, and why our politicians refuse to this day to demand > that the auto industry change its hydrocarbon-loving ways. > > The numbers tell the story: the auto industry spent close to $37 > million on lobbying in 2000. And you can bet that money wasn't > spent trying to convince Congress to designate a "Windshield > Wiper Appreciation Week." Although I'm sure Congress would have > been glad to oblige if its deep-pocket pals in Detroit had only > asked. After all, the industry has donated over $77 million to > federal candidates and the political parties since the 1990 > election -- with $12.5 million doled out during the 2002 election > cycle. > > It also doesn't hurt to have very good friends in very high > places. Before becoming White House chief of staff, Andy Card was > an executive at GM, and before that, the chief lobbyist for the > Big Three auto makers. And you wondered why the administration > has thrown its considerable weight behind GM's efforts to > overturn a California law requiring carmakers to put more > energy-efficient models on the road? > > Because of the corporate takeover of our democracy, Washington > has remained firmly stuck in the Dark Ages of energy policy. Bill > Clinton came charging into office promising to raise fuel > efficiency standards to 45 miles per gallon but left without > having increased it one inch per gallon. And why George W. Bush > can try and score points by proposing to raise the ludicrously > low SUV mileage standard by an equally ludicrous 1.5 mpg over the > next four years. > > It's also why the Big Three, once again, have to play catch up > with Toyota and Honda, which have been putting out hybrid cars > since 1997. How ironic that if American car buyers want to do > something truly patriotic, they have to buy Japanese to do it. > > So Detroit has sensed -- belatedly but still ahead of the > slowcoaches in Washington -- that public opinion is shifting -- > and has taken some baby steps toward meeting the rising demand > for more socially responsible cars. > > Now it's up to all of us to make sure that the pressure and the > demand continue to grow. Otherwise, the auto industry will gladly > underfund and under-advertise its hybrid models, allowing them to > crash and burn -- yet more "proof" that American consumers don't > really care about anything other than their precious SUVs. > > And that would suit those gas-guzzlers in Detroit -- and those > cash-nuzzlers in Washington - just fine. > > ---- > > If you have questions or comments, please contact me at > arianna@ariannaonline.com. > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please visit > www.ariannaonline.com/columns/maillist.html. > From h_hagar at prcn.org Sun Jan 12 07:40:48 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps -- Rabbit 1980 and 1982. Message-ID: <001001c2ba51$14fdf460$b0ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I hope Gary Orlando reads this LOL. His email arrived on a fine day for = changing the pump (I have to work outside)--- changed the pump 05 Jan= 2003 ----LOL and went for my first "JOYRIDE" in years -LOL. 1982 Rabbit diesel 1.6 NA -----pump Bosh 107AG -------Dealer quote for ne= w pump 5000 dollars Canadian ( Capilano VW BC)---- I had a junkie 1.5 liter= pump sitting in shop --WILL IT WORK ? Bosh 107A.---- Gary Orlando wro= te saying YES-----I change pump and it works just fine to this day. I am = more than years young --- and a casualty of Revenue Collection---NO MULA. Hagar. -- From saljel at nfdc.net Sun Jan 12 11:09:19 2003 From: saljel at nfdc.net (The Lecrones) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Head Studs References: <20030110170128.7953.41853.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <004401c2ba54$f70def60$85ffac0c@sallylec> Ken I recieved my head studs from Arp and they look great.I bought kit no. 251-4701.They are a little long up where the nut goes on (1/4) which does not hurt a thing and the only other thing that would be different is that the undercut on the stud would start up beond where the head gasket sets.We still have to center the head gasket even with this because the bolt holes in the gasket have clearence.Since they don't have to tool up and make a special run they sell there kits like I bought for less, $110.I,m going to give them a try. I think the torque spec is for the motor the kit was made for 80lbs. We are calling them this week. I feel that this is to high for our setup. Jim From saljel at nfdc.net Sun Jan 12 11:22:52 2003 From: saljel at nfdc.net (The Lecrones) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Propane injection Message-ID: <004d01c2ba56$db94a1a0$85ffac0c@sallylec> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I hooked up propane inj. on my 86 jetta td toward the end of the week.Afte= r fooling with it 2 evenings I feel that I have it set pretty good.It is am= azing what this will do for a diesel.Several people who drove the car said = that it drives like a jetta 8 valve gas engine. I never done anything to a diesel that equaled this for performance. Jim -- From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 12:04:42 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <179.14696be7.2b52fa2a@aol.com> The interesting thing I see is first off she's admitting the motoring public is a bunch of sheep. The statement about " -- and quite another to commit the marketing resources necessary to create the high demand" kind of sums that up! Frankly I've never seen anything that I'd call heavy marketing in the SUV field unless you want to count pickups. Most of the SUV ads push the room in an SUV, which in the absence of station wagons and the presence of seat belt and car set laws, is important for medium to larger families to consider. We used to be able to put a small to medium family in a Rabbit without threat of being called a negligent parent. Now with the criminalization of not having a large car seat or seat belts for every passenger, we need much larger vehicles than we used to! Not that those "ideas" are bad but when there's no exception, it creates demand for larger vehicles. Th'uther thing was the impression that this recent campaign against SUV's has caused the increase of hybrids in the car shows. Silly me, I always thought years of ideas and concepts when into making a concept vehicle, not months or weeks. Leno did a good one again the other night. He was referring to the "What would Jesus drive" anti SUV campaign. "Hmmm, Jesus, carpenter, lots of tools, things to haul... I think he'd be driving a big ole truck!" How true! I believe he put people before the environment (casting the demons into the heard of swine or cursing the fig tree) the environment was/is under his command (calming the sea, casting the nets over the other side of the boat. ;-) I'm real curious where this huge tax benefit is for buying an SUV? There used to be a good one for buying diesel. It came right off of the "tax you owe" line. Other than for company purchases and such does anybody know what this is about? Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 12:09:03 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps -- Rabbit 1980 and 1982. Message-ID: <12b.1fef5bfc.2b52fb2f@aol.com> > Bosh 107A.---- Be sure you set the timing to 1.05 or 1.15mm as this is a yellow dot pump. We did 1.05 at the dealer but Bentley says 1.15mm. I tend to lean to the higher setting with the higher speed limits now days, instead of the 55mph that was in effect at that time. The higher setting tends to kick the torque peaks to a little higher rpm, which is more useful with higher speeds. If you set the timing lower, starting will be more difficult and it won't be as fun to drive. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 12:18:06 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Propane injection Message-ID: <189.14152df6.2b52fd4e@aol.com> > I never done anything to a diesel that equaled this for performance. Jim Great to hear! The dabbling I did with some propane one day didn't impress me quite as much. Of course I'm darm picky some times! I didn't get the performance I was hoping to see. It was worthwhile but just not what I was hoping for. The drivability was impressive though! As you said, it drove like a gas car as far as engine acceleration. The best way I could describe it was as if you removed a hundred or so pounds from the flywheel. It didn't make the car seem to go a lot faster or quicker but the engine just felt so much more free. Of course I was only running up and down a back country road a few times as a quickie "does it work" test. I tried it on the NA Rabbit another day but I checked and the bottle was empty. Haven't gotten back to trying it again. As is, I have a blown head gasket on the Rabbit AGAIN! :( Looks like when my cooling system decided to put leaking in to high gear last month (less than a year after going through the whole system!) I lost the head gasket due to the low coolant. The car still runs GREAT but instead of my rock steady stream of coolant flowing into the reservoir, I get about half bubbles. :( Guess It's time to put the turbo on since I'll have the head off, makes it easier to install. :) Gary, did you ever find that other bolt? :) Loren From forrestking at juno.com Sun Jan 12 11:04:21 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <20030112.111452.248.0.forrestking@juno.com> I don't undestand scott, are you against SUVs, like me, or are you upset by these ads? On a diferent and related note, I think it is amusing how everybody latched on to the "drugs support the killing of innocent families" ads. This link is a LONG reach, especially if you are grwing/cooking/distilling/mixing your own. I think the SUV ads have just as much merit - not much, however I do hate SUVs and therefore I am willing to support the ad campaign. On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 07:10:12 -0600 "Scott Kair" writes: > For those who have seen the ads linking SUVs to funding for > terrorism, > the source of the mischief has revealed herself. Gotta love it. > They're scheduled to be on a couple of the Sunday morning Liars' > Operas. > Cheers, > Scott Kair > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Arianna's Latest Column > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > The anti-SUV ad campaign you helped create, which we have named > > The Detroit Project, is unveiling our two 30-second ads (entirely > > funded by your contributions) at a press conference in Los > > Angeles at 10am this morning. The ads are available at > > www.detroitproject.com. Also on our website will be a letter you > > can send to Detroit's automakers, a form to fill out for those > > dumping their SUVs, and a paypal link so that we can raise more > > money and buy additional air time. The ads will start running on > > the political talk shows this Sunday in major markets around the > > country. > > > > All the best, > > Arianna > > > > Road Outrage: How Corporate Greed And Political Corruption Paved > > The Way For The SUV Explosion > > > > By Arianna Huffington > > > > America's automakers have finally sputtered into first gear. > > > > Responding to the growing public outcry over its reckless > > gas-guzzling ways, the auto industry used the Detroit Auto Show > > this week to unveil a line-up of "coming soon to a showroom near > > you" hybrid vehicles -- including a number of hybrid SUVs. > > > > The question -- though I'm willing to bet no one at the car show > > asked it -- is: What took them so long? After all, cars powered > > by a combination of gas and electricity have been around since > > 1905, when the Woods Motor Vehicle Co. offered a dual-powered > > model. > > > > And while Detroit's sudden interest in hybrids after a > > near-century of neglect is certainly a step in the right > > direction, given the fact that many of the prototypes on display > > in the Motor City won't be on showroom floors for years -- if > > ever -- it's fair to wonder just how decisive a step it is. > > > > It's one thing to make a big show of rolling out glittering > > "concept models" intended for future production -- or to promise, > > as GM did, to have a million hybrid vehicles for sale by 2007 "if > > demand is high" -- and quite another to commit the marketing > > resources necessary to create the high demand. Time will tell if > > the industry has really fallen in love with this new/old kid on > > the block or if the industry's embrace of hybrid technology is > > just a one night stand, a here-today-gone-tomorrow defensive > > gambit for the PR cameras. > > > > We have ample reason to question the sincerity of the industry's > > stated intentions. Anyone remember the Supercar, that 80 mpg > > marvel that was supposed to hit the road by 2004 but instead > > managed to eat up $1.5 billion in taxpayer money before being > > abandoned on the side of the highway? Or the FreedomCAR, the Bush > > administration's equally lame "responsible vehicle" partnership > > with Detroit? Both highly touted programs allowed automakers to > > look like they were sweating blood to improve fuel efficiency > > while doing everything in their power to convince consumers to > > buy more and more fuel-inefficient -- and hugely profitable -- > > SUVs. > > > > For a good indication of Detroit's real plans, we need look no > > further than this week's L.A. Auto Show. (Yes, I'm a regular on > > the auto show circuit.) There were as many hybrid cars on display > > as there were rickshaws. And in full page newspaper ads headlined > > "What's Up At GM?" the auto giant bragged about having "once > > again shattered the record for SUV sales, topping the million > > mark for the second consecutive year -- propelled by breakout > > vehicles like the one-of-a-kind Hummer H2." > > > > The sales deck is clearly stacked in favor of Detroit's beloved > > behemoths, with billions being spent on SUV advertising and > > ever-more tempting marketing come-ons, like GM's "Zero, Zero, > > Zero" program which was introduced in December and offered > > no-interest financing on 13 of its SUVs for up to 60 months -- > > very tempting in these tough times. > > > > Of course, Washington continues to do its part by holding SUVs to > > lower fuel efficiency and air pollution standards than passenger > > cars. Our politicians have even refused to close a deeply > > misguided tax loophole that rewards buyers of extra large -- and > > extra wasteful -- SUVs with extra large tax breaks. > > > > Think of that: at a time when our leaders should be touting the > > importance of reducing our dependence on foreign oil, the people > > being given a financial incentive to purchase a new vehicle are > > those buying fuel-chugging SUVs. > > > > "I was surprised," said Karl Wizinsky, a health care consultant > > from Michigan who just bought a giant Ford Excursion even though > > he admits he doesn't really need it, "that a $32,000 credit on a > > $47,000 purchase was available in the first year. I mean, it is a > > substantial credit." Yes, it is. And it's created a substantial > > -- and artificial -- demand. > > > > It's the kind of lunatic public policy that makes you want to > > slam on your brakes and scream out your car window: How can this > > kind of thing happen? > > > > The answer is as simple as it is distressing: special interest > > money has once again trumped the public interest. That's why the > > auto industry was able to turn its back on hybrid technology for > > so long, and why our politicians refuse to this day to demand > > that the auto industry change its hydrocarbon-loving ways. > > > > The numbers tell the story: the auto industry spent close to $37 > > million on lobbying in 2000. And you can bet that money wasn't > > spent trying to convince Congress to designate a "Windshield > > Wiper Appreciation Week." Although I'm sure Congress would have > > been glad to oblige if its deep-pocket pals in Detroit had only > > asked. After all, the industry has donated over $77 million to > > federal candidates and the political parties since the 1990 > > election -- with $12.5 million doled out during the 2002 election > > cycle. > > > > It also doesn't hurt to have very good friends in very high > > places. Before becoming White House chief of staff, Andy Card was > > an executive at GM, and before that, the chief lobbyist for the > > Big Three auto makers. And you wondered why the administration > > has thrown its considerable weight behind GM's efforts to > > overturn a California law requiring carmakers to put more > > energy-efficient models on the road? > > > > Because of the corporate takeover of our democracy, Washington > > has remained firmly stuck in the Dark Ages of energy policy. Bill > > Clinton came charging into office promising to raise fuel > > efficiency standards to 45 miles per gallon but left without > > having increased it one inch per gallon. And why George W. Bush > > can try and score points by proposing to raise the ludicrously > > low SUV mileage standard by an equally ludicrous 1.5 mpg over the > > next four years. > > > > It's also why the Big Three, once again, have to play catch up > > with Toyota and Honda, which have been putting out hybrid cars > > since 1997. How ironic that if American car buyers want to do > > something truly patriotic, they have to buy Japanese to do it. > > > > So Detroit has sensed -- belatedly but still ahead of the > > slowcoaches in Washington -- that public opinion is shifting -- > > and has taken some baby steps toward meeting the rising demand > > for more socially responsible cars. > > > > Now it's up to all of us to make sure that the pressure and the > > demand continue to grow. Otherwise, the auto industry will gladly > > underfund and under-advertise its hybrid models, allowing them to > > crash and burn -- yet more "proof" that American consumers don't > > really care about anything other than their precious SUVs. > > > > And that would suit those gas-guzzlers in Detroit -- and those > > cash-nuzzlers in Washington - just fine. > > > > ---- > > > > If you have questions or comments, please contact me at > > arianna@ariannaonline.com. > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please visit > > www.ariannaonline.com/columns/maillist.html. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From milleraw at comcast.net Sun Jan 12 15:05:39 2003 From: milleraw at comcast.net (Andrew Miller) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <179.14696be7.2b52fa2a@aol.com> Message-ID: <38CA1865-2669-11D7-853F-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 12:04 US/Eastern, LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > The interesting thing I see is first off she's admitting the motoring > public > is a bunch of sheep. The statement about " -- and quite another to > commit > the marketing resources necessary to create the high demand" kind of > sums > that > up! Frankly I've never seen anything that I'd call heavy marketing in > the > SUV > field unless you want to count pickups. I think she means quantity not content. Apparently all the new/upgraded/innovated domestic vehicles this year were SUV related. Not one car. > Most of the SUV ads push the room > in an SUV, which in the absence of station wagons and the presence of > seat belt and car set laws, is important for medium to larger families > to > consider. We used to be able to put a small to medium family in a > Rabbit > without threat of being called a negligent parent. Now with the > criminalization > of not having a large car seat or seat belts for every passenger, we > need > much > larger vehicles than we used to! Not that those "ideas" are bad but > when > there's no exception, it creates demand for larger vehicles. Totally agree...however, SUVs are not a good solution in my mind. The US consumer has a big misconception that an SUV is safer for all because it is bigger and stronger. Poor emergency handling, high center of gravity, incompatibility with guard rails etc.... Because of these issues you are three times more likely to die in an SUV accident than a car.[some NY times automotive columnist stats]. I am not putting my kids in a vehicle with those stats. I also have a hard time dealing with the loop hole on SUV emissions. They are not low usage trucks. Like in Europe.. I think vans and wagons are safer more environmentally friendly answers. I have a Passat TDI wagon and two kids in car seats. > Th'uther thing was the impression that this recent campaign against > SUV's > has caused the increase of hybrids in the car shows. Silly me, I > always > thought years of ideas and concepts when into making a concept > vehicle, not > months or weeks. Right! It is silly. I don't understand why these people are pushing hybrids. I feel the average US consumer will need 5-6 years before they will even consider a hybrid. Especially in a larger car/van/truck. Hybrids are also not condusive to all driving scenarios. They are more effective for the short distance city driver than the commuter who does highway driving. It is too new. A much more sensible path would be to push better mileage and ....what......Diesel technology. I think diesels will be the only option that will satisfy the consumers current "need for speed", lower Green House emissions, and increase mileage. > Leno did a good one again the other night. He was referring to the > "What > would Jesus drive" anti SUV campaign. "Hmmm, Jesus, carpenter, lots of > tools, things to haul... I think he'd be driving a big ole truck!" > How > true! I > believe he put people before the environment (casting the demons into > the > heard of swine or cursing the fig tree) the environment was/is under > his > command (calming the sea, casting the nets over the other side of the Sorry, a few animals and a select group of trees are a little different than the earth's atmosphere and all who rely on it. Andy Miller '96 Passat TDI Sedan '96 Passat TDI Wagon '70 BMW 2002 From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 14:44:05 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <38CA1865-2669-11D7-853F-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> References: <179.14696be7.2b52fa2a@aol.com> <38CA1865-2669-11D7-853F-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20030112204405.GA7744@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 03:05:39PM -0500, Andrew Miller wrote: (snip) > Totally agree...however, SUVs are not a good solution in my mind. The > US consumer has a big misconception that an SUV is safer for all > because it is bigger and stronger. Poor emergency handling, high > center of gravity, incompatibility with guard rails etc.... Because of I saw a big SUV flip right in front of me Winter before last. He was coming the other way on a 4 lane, spun out on some ice, hit the guard rail between the lanes and flipped right over it, did a complete roll right in my lane and spun around. I just barely missed him, didn't even have time to really hit the brakes. Pretty freaky. I always figured those guard rails would stop anything, but he just went right over. (snip) > Right! It is silly. I don't understand why these people are pushing > hybrids. Maybe because they're a great solution? They need to be diesel, tho. > I feel the average US consumer will need 5-6 years before > they will even consider a hybrid. Especially in a larger > car/van/truck. Hybrids are also not condusive to all driving > scenarios. They are more effective for the short distance city driver > than the commuter who does highway driving. ??? Why do you say that? With greatly increased range, they seem perfect for long-distance cruising. Certainly the military agrees with that, look at their new hybrid Hummvee. About double the range, much faster acceleration, top end, etc. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 14:51:07 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Re: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <1042396417.7082.25.camel@gary.home.5045> References: <20030112.111452.248.0.forrestking@juno.com> <1042396417.7082.25.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: <20030112205107.GB7744@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Gary, Orlando wrote: > offers a PowerStroke in their Excursion, I don't believe I've seen a > DuraMax in Chevy's Suburban or (4x4 equivalent), or a Cummins in Dodge > Durango or what ever their equivalent vehicle. You haven't been looking then. > > Similarly, ultimately, US diesel fuel will be on par with EU standards. > But our Government will want it done 'overnight', costing billions of > $$$ in conversion costs. Why not let the refiners gradually phase in > these new standards, as refineries are repaired, refurbished, etc. Because they would never do it. > Government money would be better spent helping the refiners convert with > incentives. The cost of conversion is easier to swallow over the course > of years than overnight. Overnight? It has been years already. They've had plenty of time, and still more time yet. What we need is some legislators with balls to say "Now". The real problem is that Big Oil, Detroit, and Congress are all in bed together, and the public is getting screwed. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From dieseltdi at earthlink.net Sun Jan 12 15:33:57 2003 From: dieseltdi at earthlink.net (dieseltdi@earthlink.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Propane injection In-Reply-To: <004d01c2ba56$db94a1a0$85ffac0c@sallylec> Message-ID: on 1/12/03 10:22 AM, The Lecrones at saljel@nfdc.net wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I hooked up propane inj. on my 86 jetta td toward the end of the week.After > fooling with it 2 evenings I feel that I have it set pretty good.It is amazing > what this will do for a diesel.Several people who drove the car said that it > drives like a jetta 8 valve gas engine. > I never done anything to a diesel that equaled this for performance. Jim Welcome to the world of GASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! ;^) Hayden -- Visit my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~dieseltdi 2002 Jetta Wagon GLS TDI, Upsolute Powerbox 98 Jetta TDI Wetterauer chipset, Dual Fuel Propane system 98 Jetta TDI, Speed Tuning Chipset (daughter's car) 87 Scirocco 16v (son's car, gas :^P) 81 VW Rabbit Pickup (Caddy, Diesel of course, awaiting a TD engine transplant) And many, many water cooled and aircooled VW cars now departed or sold. From milleraw at comcast.net Sun Jan 12 16:41:10 2003 From: milleraw at comcast.net (Andrew Miller) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030112204405.GA7744@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: <90B6D963-2676-11D7-94A1-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> >> Right! It is silly. I don't understand why these people are pushing >> hybrids. > > Maybe because they're a great solution? They need to be diesel, tho. I guess I haven't seen a practical version yet. The Insight is not at all practical for a family. >> I feel the average US consumer will need 5-6 years before >> they will even consider a hybrid. Especially in a larger >> car/van/truck. Hybrids are also not condusive to all driving >> scenarios. They are more effective for the short distance city driver >> than the commuter who does highway driving. > > ??? Why do you say that? With greatly increased range, they seem > perfect for > long-distance cruising. Certainly the military agrees with that, look > at their > new hybrid Hummvee. About double the range, much faster acceleration, > top > end, etc. > Wow! I am out of the loop there..... My only concern here would be that this system would be overkill for a family car. In other words " Show me a Passat wagon sized vehicle that performs as well or better then my TDI and can adapt to both short and long distances" [It was my understanding that those Insight owners that did over a certian level of highway driving had dramatically reduced mileage.] I would buy one in a second. I don't think the rest of the US would though. As a whole we are a bunch of wimps when it comes to this new stuff. > > -- > Harmon Seaver > CyberShamanix > http://www.cybershamanix.com > From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 16:51:00 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Re: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <6d.6ff0a26.2b533d44@aol.com> > > Government money would be better spent helping the refiners convert with > > incentives. The cost of conversion is easier to swallow over the course > > of years than overnight. > > Overnight? It has been years already. They've had plenty of time, and > still more time yet. Scott's not saying they haven't or don't have time. He's saying that the government will demand a more or less, instant changeover rather than a gradual one, which would cost much less and cause less "growing pains." Like we had with the "low sulfur" diesel thing that ate a lot of pumps a few years back. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 17:15:11 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <9.71b16c5.2b5342ef@aol.com> > I think she means quantity not content. Apparently all the > new/upgraded/innovated domestic vehicles this year were SUV related. > Not one car. I'd have to agree that IS lame! > I also have a hard time > dealing with the loop hole on SUV emissions. They are not low usage > trucks. I agree. The problem is that in the fervor to close the loophole, I'm afraid that we'll loose what the "loophole" was intended for. Protect the cost effectiveness of driving a truck for those who have no choice. When the government tries to appease an interest or activist group there's a tendency to either just do lip service or throw out the baby with the bathwater, tub, bathroom attendant...even just demolish the place and start over! > > Like in Europe.. I think vans and wagons are safer more environmentally > friendly answers. I have a Passat TDI wagon and two kids in car seats. It used to be more that way here until people suddenly thought they had to have an SUV like their friends or neighbors. My nephew was all set to buy a new Passat. No diesel but at least a roomy Passat. His wife wanted an SUV because all her friends who were also recent Moms had told her how wonderful they were and so on. For height of putting a kid in a car seat it would be a LITTLE nicer. He gave in and did the SUV but NEXT time it's HIS choice on car! > Right! It is silly. I don't understand why these people are pushing > hybrids. I feel the average US consumer will need 5-6 years before > they will even consider a hybrid. Especially in a larger > car/van/truck. Hybrids are also not condusive to all driving > scenarios. They are more effective for the short distance city driver > than the commuter who does highway driving. It is too new. A much > more sensible path would be to push better mileage and > ....what......Diesel technology. I think diesels will be the only > option that will satisfy the consumers current "need for speed", lower > Green House emissions, and increase mileage. I don't see a problem with a hybrid in itself. Nothing wrong with supplementing gas or diesel power with electrical and having a generator that can run on deceleration or cruising to replenish the battery. Of course a diesel is the most efficient of that. Electrics are what don't really make a lot of sense for many areas of the country. Heavy batteries, long distances and the issue that driving a high mpg car produces less emissions than the power plant that's recharging the electric car! > Sorry, a few animals and a select group of trees are a little different > than the earth's atmosphere and all who rely on it. > > Andy Miller Here lies my "problem" I have this silly notion that the Earth is MUCH more powerful and resilient than us humans. Sure we can damage alter or even greatly alter a local environment but to "destroy" one takes something on the order of a nuclear blast. It's still "local" not global. Volcanos have been belching poisonous gasses and "ozone destroying" gasses in much huger ;-) quantities than we could dream of emitting, for eons yet the Earth still exists and is able to sustain life. The global environment has always been in a constant state of change. I find it a little arrogant to think we are now the ones responsible for this. Nothing wrong with being good stewards but the Earth is capable of converting awfully huge amounts of CO2, etc. Put out more CO2 and more heat, and you get more plant life to convert it back. Equilibrium. Loren From forrestking at juno.com Sun Jan 12 16:33:37 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <20030112.163337.2640.1.forrestking@juno.com> > I guess I haven't seen a practical version yet. The Insight is not > at > all practical for a family. Whoa there. Maybe you should take a quick trip down to your local Honda Dealer, and check out the Civic Hybrid. It is a civic that has the insight running gear buried beneath the floor of the trunk... NICE. Also, I beleive Toyota has or Had a Hybrid Minivan on the market, I however, do not keep up with toyota's motor car division. Did you know Toyota is going to start building and selling light airplanes here in the US? that is an interesting google search if you ever have time. > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From forrestking at juno.com Sun Jan 12 16:41:48 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <20030112.164148.2640.3.forrestking@juno.com> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Here lies my "problem" I have this silly notion that the Earth is MUCH more powerful and resilient than us humans. Sure we can damage alter or even greatly alter a local environment but to "destroy" one takes something on the order of a nuclear blast. It's still "local" not global. Volcanos have been belching poisonous gasses and "ozone destroying" gasses in much huger ;-) quantities than we could dream of emitting, for eons yet the Earth still exists and is able to sustain life. The global environment has always been in a constant state of change. I find it a little arrogant to think we are now the ones responsible for this. Nothing wrong with being good stewards but the Earth is capable of converting awfully huge amounts of CO2, etc. Put out more CO2 and more heat, and you get more plant life to convert it back. Equilibrium. Loren, well put! now, if you could convince a news station to run that story it would be great. I have an unle who is a big wig at the Mississippi State Univ. in the forestry Dept, he always laughs when people bitch about the number of trees that are 'killed' each ay or minute or whatever. According to math, (you can't argue with math can you?) there are more trees now than there were at the turn of the 1900 century. If you think the particulates are bad on a Internal combustion engine's exhaust, don't huff them.... -- ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 18:26:25 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Re: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <6d.6ff0a26.2b533d44@aol.com> References: <6d.6ff0a26.2b533d44@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030113002625.GA8067@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 04:51:00PM -0500, LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > > Government money would be better spent helping the refiners convert with > > > incentives. The cost of conversion is easier to swallow over the course > > > of years than overnight. > > > > Overnight? It has been years already. They've had plenty of time, and > > still more time yet. > > Scott's not saying they haven't or don't have time. He's saying that the > government will demand a more or less, instant changeover rather than > a gradual one, which would cost much less and cause less "growing > pains." Like we had with the "low sulfur" diesel thing that ate a lot of > pumps a few years back. No, they've been given a date (seems like it's 2006, but I'm not positive) that it has to be done by. There's no reason they couldn't have started the changeover a long, long time ago. If they wait until the last minute, that's their tough luck. Frankly, I'd really like to see Big Oil get put in a serious hurt situation -- like all the gov't subsidies taken away from them, especially the military. If it weren't for those subsidies, especially the gov't foreign policies and US troops in the Middle East, then 9/11 would never have happened. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 18:30:47 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030112.163337.2640.1.forrestking@juno.com> References: <20030112.163337.2640.1.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <20030113003047.GB8067@cybershamanix.com> Incidently, those hybrid hummvees are running a 1.9TDI engine. On that basis, something the size of a Passat would probably only need a 800cc or so. Although probably the hummvee gets by with a that small an engine only because it can carry more battery weight. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From cvaf4u at rhinocat.com Sun Jan 12 16:33:56 2003 From: cvaf4u at rhinocat.com (Chance Vought) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030112.164148.2640.3.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <20030113003613.B0DAE321@www.audifans.com> Here's a couple of links to ponder. http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DailyNews/mars011207.html Mars going through global warming at the same time earth is? http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/essd06oct97_1.htm A different view of measuring the earths temperatures. Chance 85 VW Golf 1.6 NA http://www.rhinocat.com/~cvaf4u On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 16:41:48 -0600, Forrest L King wrote: >This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not >understand >this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >-- >[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >Here lies my "problem" I have this silly notion that the Earth is >MUCH >more powerful and resilient than us humans. Sure we can damage alter >or even greatly alter a local environment but to "destroy" one takes >something on the order of a nuclear blast. It's still "local" not >global. >Volcanos have been belching poisonous gasses and "ozone destroying" >gasses in much huger ;-) quantities than we could dream of emitting, >for >eons yet the Earth still exists and is able to sustain life. The >global >environment has always been in a constant state of change. I find >it a >little arrogant to think we are now the ones responsible for this. >Nothing >wrong with being good stewards but the Earth is capable of converting >awfully huge amounts of CO2, etc. Put out more CO2 and more heat, >and >you get more plant life to convert it back. Equilibrium. > >Loren, well put! now, if you could convince a news station to run >that >story it would be great. >I have an unle who is a big wig at the Mississippi State Univ. in the >forestry Dept, he always laughs when people bitch about the number >of >trees that are 'killed' each ay or minute or whatever. According to >math, (you can't argue with math can you?) there are more trees now >than >there were at the turn of the 1900 century. If you think the >particulates are bad on a Internal combustion engine's exhaust, don't >huff them.... >-- > > >________________________________________________________________ >Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today >Only $9.95 per month! >Visit www.juno.com >_______________________________________________ >vwdiesel mailing list >vwdiesel@vwfans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From dennis at pantazis.org Sun Jan 12 19:12:47 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] valve shims & pliers Message-ID: greetings all: today was a cold day in chicago! worked on the car for a good bit. making some headway on getting my 85 golf 1.6NA back on the road. todays's task was valve adjustment and shims. biggest triumph was using a pair of $8 hardware store outside calipers in place of the vw special tool to remove the shims. i usually never buy general branded merchandise, but when i saw them hanging at the hardware store, i thought for the price why not. and they worked! i had to file the end of the jaws a bit to make it narrower to fit the slot, and if i tightened them up too much they would start to spring, but after the first 2-3 i figured it out enough to make short work of it. a couple of questions to those in the know- 1. order of valves: i looked in bentley but could not find a diagram or description for order of valves. i think i figured it out by lookig at the manifolds, but if someone could check out my work, i would appreciate it. order of valves looking at engine, #1 on left- e for exhaust and i for intake. cyl 1 2 3 4 valve e i e i i e i e 2. valve shims: the shims are worn like a donut, center is high, etched shim thickenss is readable. i mic'd both outer worn surface and center which was not worn to verify the original thickness. so my quandry is this, what thikness do i base my new shim on, the center or the edge where it is worn? i would assume the outer which is where the shim bears against the keeper. 3. rate of wear: this has me a bit concerned. a couple of my shims are thin, 3.35 mm on the intake valves. for now, they are in spec, but on the low side of the range (0.007" and 0.008"). i assume that my valves are receeding like all valves do. how long before i run out of shim and need to do a valve job? i realize that this is sort of a rhetorical question, but i ask others with more experience with these engines how often did they find that they had to change shims? i know i have to check yearly or 15k miles, that is a check, not a replacement guideline. did you change shims every 15k miles? thanks in advance dennis From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 21:01:01 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Re: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <1a2.f01d791.2b5377dd@aol.com> In a message dated 1/12/2003 4:26:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, hseaver@cybershamanix.com writes: > Frankly, I'd really like to see Big Oil get put > in a serious hurt situation -- like all the gov't subsidies taken away from > them, especially the military. Then I guess you'd prefer to pay MUCH more for gas, diesel, food, clothing, anything that's shipped, made from synthetics or uses petroleum in any part of the production. Quite frankly I'm not in favor of a sudden change causing rapid inflation and unemployment. Seen it once before in the 70's. Your scenario would likely be much worse. If it weren't for those subsidies, especially > the > gov't foreign policies and US troops in the Middle East, then 9/11 would > never have happened. > Changing that would make us Muslim? The "order" they were working from was to kill the infidels, so to speak, if they don't convert. It's a religious attack not a political one. Well, kind of both since it contains the co-mingling of church and state. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 21:02:41 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <178.14ff7469.2b537841@aol.com> > Incidently, those hybrid hummvees are running a 1.9TDI engine. Wouldn't happen to be a VW engine would it? :) I hadn't heard anything about this version. Have any more info or links? :) Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Sun Jan 12 21:22:21 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] valve shims & pliers Message-ID: <125.1cb04464.2b537cdd@aol.com> > cyl 1 2 3 4 > valve e i e i i e i e Correct as I recall. If it isn't that then it's the opposite! ;-) I always just follow the intake runners. They run straight to the valve. > > 2. valve shims: the shims are worn like a donut, center is high, etched shim > thickness is readable. i mic'd both outer worn surface and center which was > not worn to verify the original thickness. so my quandry is this, what > thickness do i base my new shim on, the center or the edge where it is worn? > i would assume the outer which is where the shim bears against the keeper. I would go with the middle thickness. That's what you'll be reading when you put a shim in there at TDC. Are they worn that much or what? If it's too bad then I'd be suspicious of poor oil change schedules :( > > 3. rate of wear: this has me a bit concerned. a couple of my shims are thin, > 3.35 mm on the intake valves. for now, they are in spec, but on the low side > of the range (0.007" and 0.008"). i assume that my valves are receeding like > all valves do. how long before i run out of shim and need to do a valve job? > i realize that this is sort of a rhetorical question, but i ask others with > more experience with these engines how often did they find that they had to > change shims? i know i have to check yearly or 15k miles, that is a check, > not a replacement guideline. did you change shims every 15k miles? > You only swap shims around to make the proper clearances. Use another used one or a new one when you don't have one that you need. You don't routinely "change" them as a wear item. I had one that sunk in about that far. It never really changed after that. It may have been where it ended up after a valve grind. No need to worry unless it keeps dropping. Then you'll need some new seats or a head. Loren From nwall at opei.org Sun Jan 12 21:36:52 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (nwall@opei.org) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: [Audi-VW-Diesels] valve shims & pliers In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1042425412.3e22264470e9f@webmail.dsl.net> 1. The the valve order you listed is correct. 2. Worn convex? I've never seen a shim wear un-uniformly. I'd replace any shim worn like that. Perhaps they are not worn that much. 3. They wear ever so slowly. I maybe had to go one shim thickness thinner about three times in 200,000 miles. That's on three valves at different times ONLY! --Nate Quoting dennis pantazis : > greetings all: > > today was a cold day in chicago! worked on the car for a good bit. making > some headway on getting my 85 golf 1.6NA back on the road. todays's task > was > valve adjustment and shims. > > biggest triumph was using a pair of $8 hardware store outside calipers in > place of the vw special tool to remove the shims. i usually never buy > general branded merchandise, but when i saw them hanging at the hardware > store, i thought for the price why not. and they worked! i had to file the > end of the jaws a bit to make it narrower to fit the slot, and if i > tightened them up too much they would start to spring, but after the first > 2-3 i figured it out enough to make short work of it. > > a couple of questions to those in the know- > > 1. order of valves: i looked in bentley but could not find a diagram or > description for order of valves. i think i figured it out by lookig at the > manifolds, but if someone could check out my work, i would appreciate it. > order of valves looking at engine, #1 on left- e for exhaust and i for > intake. > > cyl 1 2 3 4 > valve e i e i i e i e > > 2. valve shims: the shims are worn like a donut, center is high, etched > shim > thickenss is readable. i mic'd both outer worn surface and center which was > not worn to verify the original thickness. so my quandry is this, what > thikness do i base my new shim on, the center or the edge where it is worn? > i would assume the outer which is where the shim bears against the keeper. > > 3. rate of wear: this has me a bit concerned. a couple of my shims are > thin, > 3.35 mm on the intake valves. for now, they are in spec, but on the low > side > of the range (0.007" and 0.008"). i assume that my valves are receeding > like > all valves do. how long before i run out of shim and need to do a valve > job? > i realize that this is sort of a rhetorical question, but i ask others with > more experience with these engines how often did they find that they had to > change shims? i know i have to check yearly or 15k miles, that is a check, > not a replacement guideline. did you change shims every 15k miles? > > thanks in advance > > dennis > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 21:09:43 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <178.14ff7469.2b537841@aol.com> References: <178.14ff7469.2b537841@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030113030943.GA8268@cybershamanix.com> http://evworld.com/archives/conferences/evs14/humvee.html http://www.uqm.com/Technologies/programs/hummer.html http://www.wci.wcsd.k12.ca.us/itech/Alternate_energy/sites/hummer.html On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:02:41PM -0500, LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > Incidently, those hybrid hummvees are running a 1.9TDI engine. > > Wouldn't happen to be a VW engine would it? :) I hadn't heard anything > about this version. Have any more info or links? :) > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From dieseltdi at earthlink.net Sun Jan 12 21:22:58 2003 From: dieseltdi at earthlink.net (dieseltdi@earthlink.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <9.71b16c5.2b5342ef@aol.com> Message-ID: on 1/12/03 4:15 PM, LBaird119@aol.com at LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > Here lies my "problem" I have this silly notion that the Earth is MUCH > more powerful and resilient than us humans. Sure we can damage alter > or even greatly alter a local environment but to "destroy" one takes > something on the order of a nuclear blast. It's still "local" not global. > Volcanos have been belching poisonous gasses and "ozone destroying" > gasses in much huger ;-) quantities than we could dream of emitting, for > eons yet the Earth still exists and is able to sustain life. The global > environment has always been in a constant state of change. I find it a > little arrogant to think we are now the ones responsible for this. Nothing > wrong with being good stewards but the Earth is capable of converting > awfully huge amounts of CO2, etc. Put out more CO2 and more heat, and > you get more plant life to convert it back. Equilibrium. > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel Actually I could take you to a few places in California and a place in Tennessee called Duck Creek where in just a few short years humans reduced the environment to a moonscape and it hasn't rebounded yet. the area around Mt St. Helens has recovered faster (and I don't mean the deliberately reforested areas) than some spots that were ravaged less than 100 years ago by humans. Now I don't want to step on toes or what but there seems to be a misconception on just how much stuff we put in the air. Yes volcanoes do put out short duration events that fill the air with sulfates and dust that are rapidly cycled out of the global system. It is the episodic nature of these events that makes them small blips on the screen of life. Every so often, about once ever 100000 years we have a really big volcanic explosion that really wrecks havoc on the entire globe. One happened about 40000 years ago and nearly wiped out the human race. Anyway the problem with us is that we tend to release pollutants in a very different manner than the earth. Out releases are long term, and usually consist of compounds never found in the planet to begin with. Yes certain kinds of ozone killing compounds are released by volcanoes but the particular chemical signature of the manmade Chloroflourocarbons is very distinct. As for global warming, I still think the judge is still out. We simply do not know how fast the earth can sequester CO2 when it is released in the massive quantities that humans do. That being said, knowing the earth's history as I do (geology professor) I would prefer a green house planet to the other option. You Canuck friends of ours up north would all have to move down to the states in an icehouse world, and dammit those blasted new yorkers would flood Texas again like they did in the 80's. Joking aside, all of human technology and agriculture has developed in a warming climate. ALL OF IT. We simply do not have the means to survive in large numbers in an ice house world. The crops we grow worldwide would fail because they are all warm climate crops. the petroleum tecnology simply will not be able to produce enough heat and electricity etc when many of the fields of the earth are covered with 3-5 miles of ice. We are to be stewards of the planet we live on. By the way, I do not consider myself a tree hugger. I think that there are ways to manage our world with sustainability so that we can all keep warm, can drive cars (although a limited number) and still prevent 100 species from becoming extinct every single day. Down off soap box. Necessary VW and diesel content. Just got back from Oklahoma where I bought another 81 Caddy, It is structurally (read from cab forward where most of the rust eats away the structural members) sound much more so than the one I have now. I intend to canabilize the current truck for all that I need on the new one. Hayden -- Visit my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~dieseltdi 2002 Jetta Wagon GLS TDI, Upsolute Powerbox 98 Jetta TDI Wetterauer chipset, Dual Fuel Propane system 98 Jetta TDI, Speed Tuning Chipset (daughter's car) 87 Scirocco 16v (son's car, gas :^P) 81 VW Rabbit Pickup (Caddy, Diesel of course, awaiting a TD engine transplant) And many, many water cooled and aircooled VW cars now departed or sold. From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 21:32:41 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Re: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <1a2.f01d791.2b5377dd@aol.com> References: <1a2.f01d791.2b5377dd@aol.com> Message-ID: <20030113033241.GB8268@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:01:01PM -0500, LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > In a message dated 1/12/2003 4:26:43 PM Pacific Standard Time, > hseaver@cybershamanix.com writes: > > > Frankly, I'd really like to see Big Oil get put > > in a serious hurt situation -- like all the gov't subsidies taken away from > > them, especially the military. > > Then I guess you'd prefer to pay MUCH more for gas, diesel, food, clothing, > anything that's shipped, made from synthetics or uses petroleum in any > part of the production. I'm not too concerned. I can grow all the fuel and food I need, and if we didn't have to pay as much taxes (end all the subsidies to the ag, oil, trucking, and other industries and we'd pay a *lot* less taxes) and I could afford to pay higher prices on the few things I need to buy. > Quite frankly I'm not in favor of a sudden change causing rapid inflation > and unemployment. Seen it once before in the 70's. Your scenario would > likely be much worse. > > If it weren't for those subsidies, especially > > the > > gov't foreign policies and US troops in the Middle East, then 9/11 would > > never have happened. > > > Changing that would make us Muslim? The "order" they were working > from was to kill the infidels, so to speak, if they don't convert. No, no, no -- Osama could care less about us becoming Muslim. They want the infidels out of their holy land. And I fully agree. In fact, we need to get every single US troop out of *all* foreign countries. For that matter, we need to disband the US military lock, stock, and barrel -- and get back to doing what the Constitution allows for -- a militia, that is composed of the armed citizenry, and which never leaves the borders of the US. Like the Swiss have. That's the only legal, Constitutional, military we can have, really. > It's a > religious attack not a political one. Well, kind of both since it contains > the co-mingling of church and state. You mean like the present US gov't? Like the religious attack that we've been under in this hemisphere ever since 1492? Maybe you'd enjoy my website -- http://www.oshkoshbygosh.org It's got a bit to say about religious wars. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From forrestking at juno.com Sun Jan 12 21:42:42 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Haydens new truck Message-ID: <20030112.214242.3192.7.forrestking@juno.com> Hayden, You got any pictures of your new beauty?? I'll be posting mine soon. If you can, post them on a webpage and give us a link... Forrest > > Necessary VW and diesel content. Just got back from Oklahoma where > I bought > another 81 Caddy, It is structurally (read from cab forward where > most of > the rust eats away the structural members) sound much more so than > the one I > have now. I intend to canabilize the current truck for all that I > need on > the new one. Hayden > -- Visit my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~dieseltdi > 2002 Jetta Wagon GLS TDI, Upsolute Powerbox > 98 Jetta TDI Wetterauer chipset, Dual Fuel Propane system > 98 Jetta TDI, Speed Tuning Chipset (daughter's car) > 87 Scirocco 16v (son's car, gas :^P) > 81 VW Rabbit Pickup (Caddy, Diesel of course, awaiting > a TD engine transplant) > And many, many water cooled and aircooled > VW cars now departed or sold. > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From scott3491 at insightbb.com Sun Jan 12 21:54:46 2003 From: scott3491 at insightbb.com (Scott Kair) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <004301c2bab7$93be50e0$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> >>Frankly, I'd really like to see Big Oil get put > in a serious hurt situation -- like all the gov't subsidies taken away from > them, especially the military. >>Then I guess you'd prefer to pay MUCH more for gas, diesel, food, clothing, anything that's shipped, made from synthetics or uses petroleum in any part of the production. Quite frankly I'm not in favor of a sudden change causing rapid inflation and unemployment. Seen it once before in the 70's. Your scenario would likely be much worse.<< Harmon, surely you're familiar with Daniel Yergin's >The Prize.< Breaking up the Seven Sisters, as the oil companies were once called, would have been impossible even 60 years ago- at least without bloodshed on an unimaginable scale. Trying to break their privileges with an oil man in the White House, an oil man as vice-president, and a corporate owned news media dependent on oil & automotive industry advertising revenue defines futility. The oil embargoes that led to the economic calamities of the mid and late seventies weren't caused by the Justice Department trying to break the oil companies but by oil producers forming a cartel to monopolize oil supplies. It did indeed cause inflation coupled with a recession, which economists had previously claimed was impossible. Like all cartels, though, some members started selling on the sly and the cartel hasn't been that effective since. >> If it weren't for those subsidies, especially > the > gov't foreign policies and US troops in the Middle East, then 9/11 would > never have happened. > >>Changing that would make us Muslim? The "order" they were working from was to kill the infidels, so to speak, if they don't convert. It's a religious attack not a political one. Well, kind of both since it contains the co-mingling of church and state.<< Even a cursory review of the information available prior to 9/11 on al-Qaeda would reveal that their primary interest isn't our souls. They wanted our troops out of Sa'udi Arabia, an end to the corrupt and/or secular regimes in the muslim world, and they wanted us to yank the leash on the criminal Sternist regime in Israel. Converting or killing us barbarians wasn't on their agenda, except for missionaries sent to convert their heathen selves, or as what we call collateral damage when we do it to someone else. The determining factors in what directly caused and facilitated the 9-11 attacks have yet to be discerned, and will be well concealed for decades. The only certainty is that the terrorists learned their trade at our behest and expense fighting the Soviets. Those few serious journalists who stayed with them in Afghanistan, such as Robert Kaplan, and warned that the mujahedin were not the "freedom fighters" the CIA claimed, and would one day turn against us, were ignored. Scott Kair From dennis at pantazis.org Sun Jan 12 22:17:05 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030113003613.B0DAE321@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: i agree to all of your insightful opinions. on a sidenote, did anyone catch the piece on npr's fresh air with paul eisenstein which discussed the implications of oil shortage, ie the war with iraq, strikes in venuzula, suv's and fuel efficeincy overall? http://freshair.npr.org/day_fa.jhtml?display=day&todayDate=01/09/2003 "Journalist Paul Eisenstein covers the automotive industry and is publisher and editorial director of http://TheCarConnection.com, a site of news, opinions and reviews about cars. He'll talk about the latest car trends and the economic outlook for automakers. The North American International Auto Show -- where most manufacturers unveil their new products -- takes place in Detroit Jan. 11-20, 2003" its a long interview, about 40 minutes. if you are in dialup, it will be slow. overall, i think it is a very good interview and i learned quite a bit listening a couple of times. i listened to it again online tonite and have tried to provide a summary. if you can listen to it, do. i am not sure i have gotten all the points and gotten them 100% accuratley. my comments in <>. they discussed these adds specifically. they quoted the greorge add. eiseinstein perception of the industry's reaction to these adds is 'looking over its shoulder because its aware of the criticisms of the boon of the suv, but the reality is that industry is looking to the future consumer demand for more.... pure electric vehicles (battery cars) are dead. too costly, too much a fixed end solution. fuel cell is what auto industry is bankning on. too many coulds and possiblies... gas/elec hybrid. gm announced plans to produce 1M units/year by 2007 pro's: 12-50% more fuel economy people who have them like them. cons's $5-$12K more in price they are more complex vehicles gov't should pass tax credits to encourage usage. only about 35,000 units sold last year. costly! lexus is putting out a gas/elec hybrid. this could prove that alternatives are sexy as well as responsible> <***> mainstreaming the hybrid is important to gain acceptance. some of the curiousities: gm/caddy's prototype 1000hp (thats right 1K) v-16 car, 20 mpg!, technology has displacement on demand where up to 12 of 16 cylinders get turned off to save fuel. this tech will trickle down eventually. alternative fuel front: ethanol has stalled: hasn;t caught on, alcohols are environmentaly dangerous. few states still have 10% ethanol blends discussion on the euro diesel challenges: 70% austria, 50% in france new buyers are going diesel, driven by fuel economy 40% better milage old holdover diesel memories don;t apply, but they taint current views. drove v10 vw, was amazed at performance, its not your grandpa's diesel passengers didn;t realize it was a diesel until told emissions laws geared towards gassers, have made it almost impossible for new diesels to be sold here, almost impossible after 2007 disadvantages of diesels- "incredibly slight increase in nitrous emissions particulate emissions: tradeoff is tiny: biggest benifit- C02 emissions=> cut cunsumption you cut emissions its the fastest easiest way to reduce emissions, automakers are trying to push for revisions calif emissions board drives entire us emissions policies, they are realizing the benifits of diesels, industry is pushing for adoption, we may see revision of emissions standards, and a rebirth of diesels how/why japanese vehicles have terrible fuel efficiency numbers. they are worse than we are. its a misconception that the japanese have more efficient vehicles than we do suv accident rates have statistically improved for accident rates. surprisingly, its compacts/subcompacts that are more dangerous due to one car accidents! suv's are taking over the american highway. soccer moms and soccer dads. typical americanisms: bigger, better, power suv's are becoming like the minivans of the 80's & 90's. 3rd row seats, one plus for suv's is all wheel drive. safer all around. ----------------- thats about all i have time for. there is some more, but like i said, listen to it if you can. dennis From dennis at pantazis.org Sun Jan 12 22:23:52 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: [Audi-VW-Diesels] valve shims & pliers In-Reply-To: <1042425412.3e22264470e9f@webmail.dsl.net> Message-ID: sorry for my poor writeup. yes, you could describe it as convex overall, but its not a gradual transition like an optical lense (best example i could think of), but much more pronounced. kinda like a circular go/no-go feeler, only round. the best way i can describe it w/o a picture is that the shim that is over the end of the valve and keepers is not worn. the part that contacts the upper spring seat is noticably worn. there is a ridge at the outer edge of the shim. the difference is somewhere between 3-8 tenths. ie 0.0003- 0.0008. surface finish looks like it was surface ground does this sound bad? i am inclined to rely on the final result of the gap, not the shim. 160K on the odometer. tia dennis ps: the calipers are the like wood turners use, not the measuring kind. From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 12 23:31:19 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: References: <20030113003613.B0DAE321@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <20030113053119.GB8457@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 10:17:05PM -0600, dennis pantazis wrote: > i agree to all of your insightful opinions. > > on a sidenote, did anyone catch the piece on npr's fresh air with paul > eisenstein which discussed the implications of oil shortage, ie the war with > iraq, strikes in venuzula, suv's and fuel efficeincy overall? I heard most of it. (snip) > > fuel cell is what auto industry is bankning on. too many coulds and > possiblies... Fuel cells seem more and more like just a sneaky way to make nukes more appealing, since thats the only reasonable way to get hydrogen. (snip) > > alternative fuel front: > ethanol has stalled: hasn;t caught on, alcohols are environmentaly > dangerous. Whoa! I didn't hear him say that (but I was out of the car a bit during the show) -- anyway, that's a serious error. Alcohol is pretty benign environmentally -- you can drink it. Many people do. Dump a railroad tanker of it in a lake, no problem. Sink one of the big tankers full of it, still no problem. No air pollution (comparatively - yes you still have NOx, as with anything), so where is that badly mistaken idea coming from? Sounds like Big Oil disinfo agit/prop. > few states still have 10% ethanol blends states?> > What are other states blending it at? Since MTBE is being outlawed, what else have they got besides ethanol? (rest snipped) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From dennis at pantazis.org Mon Jan 13 00:25:18 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030113053119.GB8457@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: > > alternative fuel front: > > ethanol has stalled: hasn;t caught on, alcohols are environmentaly > > dangerous. > i may have misunderstood, but he seemed to emphasise the environmental hazards of alcohols getting into the water supplies as one of the main issues. i honestly do not know what effects there are. you seem to have a better understanding on this than i do. > > > few states still have 10% ethanol blends > states?> > > > > What are other states blending it at? Since MTBE is being > outlawed, what else > have they got besides ethanol? > i think that ehtanol is it. i undestood him to mean that not all states currently have ethanol in their fuels. i know from driving around the midwest (il, in, ia, wi) that its normal to get 10%. out east (ny, ct, nj) i did not notice the ethanol labels on the gas pumps, which i thought was odd. as far as fuel cells go, i agree that the whole industry is bass ackwards on it. i think that limit is hydrogen which depends on electrolysis. improving electical transmission is an important key to it. time will tell. i think that eisenstein's overall point however is that there ARE current technologies that are infinitley better than the status quo and do offer better fuel economy and reduced emissions. all the auto industry has to do is provide the product and market it effectively and we the consumers will buy it. honda and toyota proved that it is possible and there is a market for it. i think towards the end the point was made that we the consumers will ask for green vehicles, all they have to do is make it affordable. the majority will not buy something that is better for the environment if it costs more and the cost of ownership is higher than the status quo. it also reminded me of one of bucky fuller's ideas that to ensure recycling, the automakers should long term lease the vehicles, like for 15-20 years, and then dismantle/recycle them. interesting idea from 20 years ago. we are seeing a similar idea with the fuel cell chasis < gm?> that offered modular bodies to be grafted onto the chasis as user's needs changes. dennis From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 13 02:37:44 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: > as far as fuel cells go, i agree that the whole industry is bass ackwards on > it. i think that limit is hydrogen which depends on electrolysis. improving > electical transmission is an important key to it. time will tell. > As I understand it, fuel cells will not only run on H2 but on most any hydrocarbon. I'd heard scuttle that many of the fuel cells were simply being run on gas due to the convenience, existing network of stations and so on. Kind of more of the same in that case. Although they should be a more efficient converter of hydrocarbons into electricity than a generator/engine arrangement. Loren From maded at gte.net Mon Jan 13 00:09:22 2003 From: maded at gte.net (maded) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] What could be going on here? Message-ID: This is the tale of woe: 82' Vanagon diesel (reg 1.6na) starts fine, drives up hill WITH CAP OFF OIL FILLER, oil spews, red light comes on. Vanagon diesel is OVERFILLED with oil, drives away seems ok. Quits. Oil every where, dripping from exhaust pipe. Won't start again. I cant' imagine how oil could drip from the exhaust pipe. A compression check supposedly was done, 145 # all around, oil brings it up a bit. A broken timing belt would cause piston-valve crash and so leaking from the head-- but oil out the exhaust? It would be obvious too. This Vanagon is in a shop in CA. A friend purchased it sight unseen, died on the delivery trip. The mechanic is difficult, have not had a real diagnosis yet. -- Ed Lowe, Seattle 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td 85 Golf diesel 92 Cabrio 97 Passat Tdi From milleraw at comcast.net Mon Jan 13 06:08:08 2003 From: milleraw at comcast.net (Andrew Miller) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030112.163337.2640.1.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <4BD19BB4-26E7-11D7-8686-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> Civic is still too small for my family. Never heard about the minivan??? On Sunday, Jan 12, 2003, at 17:33 US/Eastern, Forrest L King wrote: >> I guess I haven't seen a practical version yet. The Insight is not >> at >> all practical for a family. > > Whoa there. Maybe you should take a quick trip down to your local > Honda > Dealer, and check out the Civic Hybrid. It is a civic that has the > insight running gear buried beneath the floor of the trunk... NICE. > Also, I beleive Toyota has or Had a Hybrid Minivan on the market, I > however, do not keep up with toyota's motor car division. Did you know > Toyota is going to start building and selling light airplanes here in > the > US? that is an interesting google search if you ever have time. > > > >> > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Mon Jan 13 07:17:43 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads References: Message-ID: <3E22AE67.5000607@suscom-maine.net> LBaird119@aol.com wrote: >>as far as fuel cells go, i agree that the whole industry is bass ackwards on >> it. i think that limit is hydrogen which depends on electrolysis. improving >> electical transmission is an important key to it. time will tell. >> >> >> > As I understand it, fuel cells will not only run on H2 but on most any >hydrocarbon. >I'd heard scuttle that many of the fuel cells were simply being run on gas >due to the convenience, existing network of stations and so on. Kind of >more of the same in that case. Although they should be a more efficient >converter of hydrocarbons into electricity than a generator/engine >arrangement. > Loren > Correct. The first commercial fuel cells will be small ones to run laptops and other small portable devices. The fuel will be ethanol. Also, warming is not confined to both the earth and mars, but also Neptune and mercury. If you follow the literature on warming you will note that most science was more concerned with global cooling some 50 years ago. The next ice age was imminent. Lots of scientists are checking the tail of the elephant and giving us definitive descriptions of the animal without really understanding what they are looking at. Sun cycles are still poorly understood since there are multiple cycles which overlap in harmonics, just like sounds do. And don't get me started on computer forecasts. Bill T From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 07:18:48 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <4BD19BB4-26E7-11D7-8686-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> References: <20030112.163337.2640.1.forrestking@juno.com> <4BD19BB4-26E7-11D7-8686-0003938F7A60@comcast.net> Message-ID: <20030113131848.GA8485@cybershamanix.com> On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 06:08:08AM -0500, Andrew Miller wrote: > Civic is still too small for my family. Never heard about the > minivan??? http://www.autointell.com/News-2001/June-2001/June-2001-4/June-27-01-p4.htm -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 07:26:41 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] What could be going on here? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030113132641.GB8485@cybershamanix.com> On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:09:22AM -0800, maded wrote: > This is the tale of woe: > > 82' Vanagon diesel (reg 1.6na) starts fine, drives up hill WITH CAP OFF OIL > FILLER, oil spews, red light comes on. Vanagon diesel is OVERFILLED with > oil, drives away seems ok. Quits. Oil every where, dripping from exhaust > pipe. Won't start again. > > I cant' imagine how oil could drip from the exhaust pipe. A compression > check supposedly was done, 145 # all around, oil brings it up a bit. A Sounds like that's the problem right there. No compression -- probably broken or stuck rings. Should be closer to 345. That would also explain why it's "overfilled" with oil -- or rather, seriously diluted with unburned fuel, and why it's being pumped out the exhaust, plus blowing out everywhere from the excess crankcase pressure. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 07:45:46 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20030113134546.GA8966@cybershamanix.com> On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 02:37:44AM -0500, LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > > As I understand it, fuel cells will not only run on H2 but on most any > hydrocarbon. > I'd heard scuttle that many of the fuel cells were simply being run on gas > due to the convenience, existing network of stations and so on. Kind of > more of the same in that case. Although they should be a more efficient > converter of hydrocarbons into electricity than a generator/engine > arrangement. > Loren AFAIK, the fuel cell itself only runs on hydrogen, but there are various technologies to convert other fuels to hydrogen right on the spot. Check out http://www.idatech.com/ for instance. While it's fairly easy to see how they do this with natural gas, for instance (almost all hydrogen is currently made from natural gas anyway), I'm not sure what happens when they try to do it with diesel or gasoline. Seems like there would be a lot of polluting byproduct.. At any rate, I haven't seen any fuel cells that run on anything but H2, that is, without the fuel processor front end. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 08:05:49 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <004301c2bab7$93be50e0$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> References: <004301c2bab7$93be50e0$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <20030113140549.GB8966@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 12, 2003 at 09:54:46PM -0600, Scott Kair wrote: > Harmon, surely you're familiar with Daniel Yergin's >The Prize.< > Breaking up the Seven Sisters, as the oil companies were once called, > would have been impossible even 60 years ago- at least without bloodshed on > an unimaginable scale. Trying to break their privileges with an oil man in > the White House, an oil man as vice-president, and a corporate owned news > media dependent on oil & automotive industry advertising revenue defines > futility. Yes, of course, you're right. One can only hope and pray, just as I pray every day that someone will kill Dubbya, Cheney, and Asscruft, and that a hurricane will come up to send all those troop ships heading for Iraq to the bottom of the sea with no survivors. Probably won't happen, but there's always hope. Although actually, the end of Big Oil will probably occur sooner than later, since world oil production will peak this decade, and it's all downhill from then on, at least for the oil-based technologies and economics. Two of the Sisters, Shell and BP, at least, have acknowledged this and are diversifying into alternative energy fairly rapidly. (snip) > The determining factors in what directly caused and facilitated the 9-11 > attacks have yet to be discerned, and will be well concealed for decades. > The only certainty is that the terrorists learned their trade at our behest > and expense fighting the Soviets. Those few serious journalists who stayed > with them in Afghanistan, such as Robert Kaplan, and warned that the > mujahedin were not the "freedom fighters" the CIA claimed, and would one > day turn against us, were ignored. > Scott Kair And if you're paying attention to what's going on in Afghanistan, it's clear that the US is wearing out it's welcome there quite rapidly. Only a matter of time before they get the same treatment there that the Soviets got. And the Brits before them. Arrogance and brute force only go so far. The US is creating more "terrorists" faster than it's killing them, which will always be so. If they are stupid enough to attack Iraq, the suicide bombers will become an unstoppable wave. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From nwall at opei.org Mon Jan 13 09:25:01 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads References: Message-ID: <3E22CC3D.C7D03B88@opei.org> <<>> I saw one of those personalized license plates on an Escalade last night that read, "MOMS SHIP", made me almost want to throw up. --nate From nwall at opei.org Mon Jan 13 09:29:01 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: [Audi-VW-Diesels] valve shims & pliers References: Message-ID: <3E22CD2C.20ABEF83@opei.org> This is real odd. The worn side is trhe side opposite the cam? There should be NO NOTICEABLE wear on this side, and negligable wear on othe other. I do believe the lifter is supposed to rotate a little, along w/ the shim as the engine runs. This should even out any wear. Perhaps this is not occurring for some reason. Like Loren, my only thought is PO gross negligence r.e. oil changes. Perhaps extremely tight valve clearances at some point could have done it. In this case, I'd see if the lifters turn freely (cam lobe "UP") and replace the shims. --nate dennis pantazis wrote: > sorry for my poor writeup. > > yes, you could describe it as convex overall, but its not a gradual > transition like an optical lense (best example i could think of), but much > more pronounced. kinda like a circular go/no-go feeler, only round. > > the best way i can describe it w/o a picture is that the shim that is over > the end of the valve and keepers is not worn. > the part that contacts the upper spring seat is noticably worn. there is a > ridge at the outer edge of the shim. the difference is somewhere between 3-8 > tenths. ie 0.0003- 0.0008. surface finish looks like it was surface ground > > does this sound bad? i am inclined to rely on the final result of the gap, > not the shim. 160K on the odometer. > > tia > > dennis > > ps: the calipers are the like wood turners use, not the measuring kind. From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 08:30:22 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: References: <20030113053119.GB8457@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: <20030113143022.GC8966@cybershamanix.com> On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 12:25:18AM -0600, dennis pantazis wrote: > > > alternative fuel front: > > > ethanol has stalled: hasn;t caught on, alcohols are environmentaly > > > dangerous. > > > > i may have misunderstood, but he seemed to emphasise the environmental > hazards of alcohols getting into the water supplies as one of the main > issues. I didn't hear that part, I guess, and didn't find much of what I did hear to be anything new, at least to me. Anyway, it's the MTBE that's getting into water supplies all over the place, which is why it's being banned. Ethanol is the solution. There does seem to be a disinformation campaign being waged against ethanol, however, and one of their "arguements" is the supposed "danger" of ethanol spills. It's a crock. They are building an ethanol plant just a few miles from me, and the disinfo that they were pushing was hilarious. One of the main spokesman for the local anti-ethanol group didn't even know that ethanol is what's in beer, wine, etc. I had a little discussion with him about it -- really funny. Duh! I'm sure the disinfo about ethanol is being pushed by Big Oil. There's another thread of disinfo about ethanol production being a net energy loss -- another crock. Even doing it from corn is a proven net gain, and corn is one of the worst feedstocks for ethanol. All these anti-ethanol arguements are moot anyway, all we have to do is look at Brazil where they fuel most of their vehicles on ethanol. And no evidence of any problems with ethanol spill there. It's the same thing with biodiesel -- here in the US the big push is for soybean based biodiesel which is another totally stupid idea. Both of these are only because of all the subsidies paid to corn and soybean farmers which have created these enormous surpluses. Cheaper to burn corn to heat your house than any other fuel on the market -- what an absurd concept. It really would be a blessing if someone would nuke Washington and we could start over. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From nwall at opei.org Mon Jan 13 09:36:19 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:14 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads References: Message-ID: <3E22CEE3.A88B8501@opei.org> I saw a special years ago where someone dripped kerosene into one and a small electric motor began to run that was wired to it. --nate LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > as far as fuel cells go, i agree that the whole industry is bass ackwards on > > it. i think that limit is hydrogen which depends on electrolysis. improving > > electical transmission is an important key to it. time will tell. > > > As I understand it, fuel cells will not only run on H2 but on most any > hydrocarbon. > I'd heard scuttle that many of the fuel cells were simply being run on gas > due to the convenience, existing network of stations and so on. Kind of > more of the same in that case. Although they should be a more efficient > converter of hydrocarbons into electricity than a generator/engine > arrangement. > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Mon Jan 13 09:53:08 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: [Audi-VW-Diesels] What could be going on here? References: Message-ID: <3E22D2D4.55E73724@opei.org> Hole in the piston? That's the only way I could envision oil getting in the exhaust. --Nate maded wrote: > This is the tale of woe: > > 82' Vanagon diesel (reg 1.6na) starts fine, drives up hill WITH CAP OFF OIL > FILLER, oil spews, red light comes on. Vanagon diesel is OVERFILLED with > oil, drives away seems ok. Quits. Oil every where, dripping from exhaust > pipe. Won't start again. > > I cant' imagine how oil could drip from the exhaust pipe. A compression > check supposedly was done, 145 # all around, oil brings it up a bit. A > broken timing belt would cause piston-valve crash and so leaking from the > head-- but oil out the exhaust? It would be obvious too. > > This Vanagon is in a shop in CA. A friend purchased it sight unseen, died > on the delivery trip. The mechanic is difficult, have not had a real > diagnosis yet. > > -- > Ed Lowe, Seattle > 82 Westy diesel upgrading to 1.9td > 85 Golf diesel > 92 Cabrio > 97 Passat Tdi > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ From h_hagar at prcn.org Mon Jan 13 06:35:06 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] =?iso-8859-1?Q?SUV=B4`s_--Terrorism_---and_greenhouse_=28global=29_effect?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?._13_jan_2003.?= Message-ID: <001e01c2bb11$2fe88180$b1ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] LOL ---LOL -I came here to get help ----getting a Rabbit diesel -that woul= d work by -combining 3 scrappers 2 -1980 and one 1982.(The 1982 is running)= .----LOL an now I get involved in the affairs of the WORLD!!--LOL LOL. I am past the 70 year mark -and still full of that ---!"American can do att= itude"--was educated (Partly in the USA) --LOL- so I can NOT keep my yapper shut--TAKE THAT. All people the -The Blunderbush does NOT like --LOL are TERRORISTs--likewi= se the "ENVIRO" --gang say (using the evil rule) ---that if you drive a SUV= --(witout good reason)--you are aiding and abetting etc.--(BUSH DOCTRINE) -= -the terrorist-----LOL seems like every terrorist sits in a POOL of Oil . More on this if ever I can find time ----LOL got to go time that 107A pump = feeding the 1.6(1982) VW rabbit. Have fun--Hagar. -- From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 13 11:12:32 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] What could be going on here? Message-ID: <193.13e9409c.2b543f70@aol.com> > 82' Vanagon diesel (reg 1.6na) starts fine, drives up hill WITH CAP OFF OIL > FILLER, oil spews, red light comes on. Vanagon diesel is OVERFILLED with > oil, drives away seems ok. Quits. Oil every where, dripping from exhaust > pipe. Won't start again. > > I cant' imagine how oil could drip from the exhaust pipe. A compression > check supposedly was done, 145 # all around, oil brings it up a bit. A > broken timing belt would cause piston-valve crash and so leaking from the > head-- but oil out the exhaust? It would be obvious too. > Agreed with what Harmon said only compression should be more like 500 to 550! 145 is normal for a VW gas of that vintage so I'd overlooked that at first! :o If it was overfilled then there's a good chance they also used the wrong oil. How long was it driven that way? It's not likely the crankcase is diluted with diesel since if any burns, most of it tends to burn and all cylinders are equal. If non burns, you can't crank it over long enough to dilute the oil. Since ALL cylinders are that low (unless it's a type) I'd say the wrong oil coked up the rings and they're stuck. Some soaking might free them up then fill it with synthetic oil and try to pull start it. The synthetic will clean best as it also doesn't contribute to the problem. All rings being broken is possible but not as likely unless they were driving it hard and it hadn't for a long time and had a carbon or metal ridge at the top of the cylinders. A good solvent/ATF/diesel/something soak and another compression check is the cheapest way to start. If that doesn't do it then it sounds like disassembly time. An instance like this is what switched a die hard Castrol user friend of mine. His Subaru turbo did just this only it just smoked heavily and still ran. The rings were carboned all the way in. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 13 11:28:17 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: > It really would be a blessing if someone would nuke Washington and we could > start over. > THIS is the reason that we are guaranteed the right to bear arms and it's not exclusive of military style weapons in the constitution. (not implying nukes for survivalists is exactly the BEST scenario here!) but if enough people of this country feel as you do, there is the armament to overthrow the government. The founding fathers wanted the people to have that right. As I remember reading the constitution the military is one of the few things the federal government is SUPPOSED to have/do to protect us from foreign enemies. A xenophobic attitude toward foreign policy sounds great until you have to decide where to draw the line. If we hadn't participated in W.W.I and W.W.II I think the world be a bit less friendly of a place especially toward America. If Sadam actually develops a nuke or better "weapons of mass destruction" as the catchphrase of the day is, do we really think he'd be adverse to using it? It seems far more likely that he'd try his hand at being a little Hitler and invade Kuwait (sp?) again and so forth. It's sticky meddling crap but it does seem there comes a point where this stuff is better nipped in the bud rather than allowed to come to full bloom. I think this has gotten kicked around enough (again) and we really should get back to at least diesel topics. :) I'm sure some are amused as others are probably quite annoyed! ;-) Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 13 11:34:27 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads Message-ID: <30.35ae0e41.2b544493@aol.com> > Also, warming is not confined to both the earth and mars, but also > Neptune and mercury. My daughter wrote a report in about 3rd grade where she'd found a graph that showed nearly identical changes in global temp coincided with another graph of the output of the sun over approximately the same period of time. Her conclusion was that the output of the sun had much more bearing on the Earth's temperature than anything else being reported or studied. Interesting that a 3rd grader came up with that while most adults think it's exhaust, clear cutting or cattle flatulence ;-) Loren From nwall at opei.org Mon Jan 13 11:52:42 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads References: Message-ID: <3E22EEDA.BBAC33D8@opei.org> <<<> It really would be a blessing if someone would nuke Washington and we could start over.>>> Hey, What about me! That'd be the end of my posts. That's where I live. --Nate From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 11:07:56 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <3E22EEDA.BBAC33D8@opei.org> References: <3E22EEDA.BBAC33D8@opei.org> Message-ID: <20030113170756.GA9168@cybershamanix.com> Yeah, I know, there's lots of good people living in DC too -- however, Nate, if I were you I'd be moving soonest. I mean, seriously -- DC and NY are nothing but target zones, and that will only increase. Either or both could easily get nuked or bio/chem bombed -- or just have a lot of suicide bombers blowing themselves up in shopping malls, etc. Look at what's happening in Israel -- it's a given that we will see the same here, and the vast majority of it will be in DC and NY. Move, dude! On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:52:42AM -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > <<<> It really would be a blessing if someone would nuke Washington and we could > start over.>>> > > Hey, What about me! That'd be the end of my posts. That's where I live. > > --Nate > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From dennis at pantazis.org Mon Jan 13 11:01:59 2003 From: dennis at pantazis.org (dennis pantazis) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030113143022.GC8966@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: this link was on the vegoil list. interesting read. and a neat pic of the v-10 vw tdi. http://www.autoweek.com/search/search_display.mv?port_code=autoweek&cat_code =coverstory&content_code=04795232&Search_Type=STD&Search_ID=901942&record=3 From TheBarbers at look.ca Mon Jan 13 12:08:10 2003 From: TheBarbers at look.ca (Bill Barber) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hard Shifting Message-ID: <3E22F278.9BBFB4E4@look.ca> 2.4l diesel, "94 EV GLS, 5-speed manual, 280,000 km Shifting is becoming quite difficult. I have released and retightened the connection to the shift lever. There is adequate fluid in the clutch/brake fluid reservoir and it seems to disengage properly, although I can't rule out that completely. It sometimes shifts okay, though not terribly smooth. Then, the next time, it won't shift into any gear without a good shove. Easing out the clutch in neutral sometimes improves things though not very much. There are some minor oil leaks in the transmission area. I asked the dealer to check the oil level last year and was told that it was okay, but I strongly suspect that nothing was done. I am going to check that nothing is loose with the shifting cage on the shift linkage at the transmission. Next? Would a bad transmission mount do anything like this? Could there be bad joints within the shifter itself? TIA, Bill From LBaird119 at aol.com Mon Jan 13 13:32:09 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hard Shifting Message-ID: <6.72e524a.2b546029@aol.com> > I am going to check that nothing is loose with the shifting cage on the > shift linkage at the transmission. Next? Would a bad transmission mount > do anything like this? Could there be bad joints within the shifter itself? A bad tranny mount sure can wreak havoc with shifting a VW rear engine. It lets things sag and then it's all out of whack. If low oil is causing the hard shifting then wear has happened that shouldn't have. New/more oil would probably help but not as much as if it'd never happened. Try changing to synthetic that usually helps quite a bit. It does sound a bit clutch related. Try parking on fairly level ground, parking brake on good and try shifting with the engine off and clutch in. Also on same level ground, brake off, shift into 2nd or 3rd and see if it want's to creep forward, let the clutch out little by little and see if it's wanting to move forward with the least amount of pedal off the floor. If it's too close to the floor then you won't get full disengagement. If that's the case you can tighten the adjustment on the throw. (hydraulic clutch it sounds like?) There should be a threaded adjustment on the rod from the slave to the fork. Clutch wear usually raises the pedal. Loren From amkimmell at softhome.net Mon Jan 13 12:39:45 2003 From: amkimmell at softhome.net (Anthony Kimmell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <20030112.111452.248.0.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: I'm confused here... when people say SUV's, are they only talking about those useless things that look like overgrown S-10 Blazers and Suburbans, or are they also talking about 4x4 pickups and full size Blazers, etc? I own 3 vehicles: a 1976 Chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 with a 400 V8, a 1983 Chevy 1/2 ton 4x4 Suburban with a 350 V8, and a 1982 VW Rabbit diesel. Now... the truck and the Suburban are both 4 wheel drive. Does that make them SUV's? The truck gets 8 MPG on a good day, and the Burb gets about 12-13. Am I funding Terrorism by driving these well made American vehicles? Personally, I think the people who thought up this gas guzzler/terror concept are a bunch of loons... if buying gasoline funds terror, then 99% of Americans are responsible. Never mind the fact that the oil companies gouge the prices on a daily baisis. As long as you drive a vehicle that's not an econobox, you're funding terror? I wonder why they don't attack the trucking industry? Semi trucks burn millions of gallons of diesel fuel annually. Oh well... best I can do is sit back and laugh at these morons and their commercials. -- Tony Kimmell Bloomington, IL -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com]On Behalf Of Forrest L King Sent: Sunday, January 12, 2003 11:04 AM To: scott3491@insightbb.com Cc: Audi-VW-Diesels@yahoogroups.com; vwdiesel@audifans.com Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads I don't undestand scott, are you against SUVs, like me, or are you upset by these ads? On a diferent and related note, I think it is amusing how everybody latched on to the "drugs support the killing of innocent families" ads. This link is a LONG reach, especially if you are grwing/cooking/distilling/mixing your own. I think the SUV ads have just as much merit - not much, however I do hate SUVs and therefore I am willing to support the ad campaign. On Sun, 12 Jan 2003 07:10:12 -0600 "Scott Kair" writes: > For those who have seen the ads linking SUVs to funding for > terrorism, > the source of the mischief has revealed herself. Gotta love it. > They're scheduled to be on a couple of the Sunday morning Liars' > Operas. > Cheers, > Scott Kair > ----- Original Message ----- > Subject: Arianna's Latest Column > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > The anti-SUV ad campaign you helped create, which we have named > > The Detroit Project, is unveiling our two 30-second ads (entirely > > funded by your contributions) at a press conference in Los > > Angeles at 10am this morning. The ads are available at > > www.detroitproject.com. Also on our website will be a letter you > > can send to Detroit's automakers, a form to fill out for those > > dumping their SUVs, and a paypal link so that we can raise more > > money and buy additional air time. The ads will start running on > > the political talk shows this Sunday in major markets around the > > country. > > > > All the best, > > Arianna > > > > Road Outrage: How Corporate Greed And Political Corruption Paved > > The Way For The SUV Explosion > > > > By Arianna Huffington > > > > America's automakers have finally sputtered into first gear. > > > > Responding to the growing public outcry over its reckless > > gas-guzzling ways, the auto industry used the Detroit Auto Show > > this week to unveil a line-up of "coming soon to a showroom near > > you" hybrid vehicles -- including a number of hybrid SUVs. > > > > The question -- though I'm willing to bet no one at the car show > > asked it -- is: What took them so long? After all, cars powered > > by a combination of gas and electricity have been around since > > 1905, when the Woods Motor Vehicle Co. offered a dual-powered > > model. > > > > And while Detroit's sudden interest in hybrids after a > > near-century of neglect is certainly a step in the right > > direction, given the fact that many of the prototypes on display > > in the Motor City won't be on showroom floors for years -- if > > ever -- it's fair to wonder just how decisive a step it is. > > > > It's one thing to make a big show of rolling out glittering > > "concept models" intended for future production -- or to promise, > > as GM did, to have a million hybrid vehicles for sale by 2007 "if > > demand is high" -- and quite another to commit the marketing > > resources necessary to create the high demand. Time will tell if > > the industry has really fallen in love with this new/old kid on > > the block or if the industry's embrace of hybrid technology is > > just a one night stand, a here-today-gone-tomorrow defensive > > gambit for the PR cameras. > > > > We have ample reason to question the sincerity of the industry's > > stated intentions. Anyone remember the Supercar, that 80 mpg > > marvel that was supposed to hit the road by 2004 but instead > > managed to eat up $1.5 billion in taxpayer money before being > > abandoned on the side of the highway? Or the FreedomCAR, the Bush > > administration's equally lame "responsible vehicle" partnership > > with Detroit? Both highly touted programs allowed automakers to > > look like they were sweating blood to improve fuel efficiency > > while doing everything in their power to convince consumers to > > buy more and more fuel-inefficient -- and hugely profitable -- > > SUVs. > > > > For a good indication of Detroit's real plans, we need look no > > further than this week's L.A. Auto Show. (Yes, I'm a regular on > > the auto show circuit.) There were as many hybrid cars on display > > as there were rickshaws. And in full page newspaper ads headlined > > "What's Up At GM?" the auto giant bragged about having "once > > again shattered the record for SUV sales, topping the million > > mark for the second consecutive year -- propelled by breakout > > vehicles like the one-of-a-kind Hummer H2." > > > > The sales deck is clearly stacked in favor of Detroit's beloved > > behemoths, with billions being spent on SUV advertising and > > ever-more tempting marketing come-ons, like GM's "Zero, Zero, > > Zero" program which was introduced in December and offered > > no-interest financing on 13 of its SUVs for up to 60 months -- > > very tempting in these tough times. > > > > Of course, Washington continues to do its part by holding SUVs to > > lower fuel efficiency and air pollution standards than passenger > > cars. Our politicians have even refused to close a deeply > > misguided tax loophole that rewards buyers of extra large -- and > > extra wasteful -- SUVs with extra large tax breaks. > > > > Think of that: at a time when our leaders should be touting the > > importance of reducing our dependence on foreign oil, the people > > being given a financial incentive to purchase a new vehicle are > > those buying fuel-chugging SUVs. > > > > "I was surprised," said Karl Wizinsky, a health care consultant > > from Michigan who just bought a giant Ford Excursion even though > > he admits he doesn't really need it, "that a $32,000 credit on a > > $47,000 purchase was available in the first year. I mean, it is a > > substantial credit." Yes, it is. And it's created a substantial > > -- and artificial -- demand. > > > > It's the kind of lunatic public policy that makes you want to > > slam on your brakes and scream out your car window: How can this > > kind of thing happen? > > > > The answer is as simple as it is distressing: special interest > > money has once again trumped the public interest. That's why the > > auto industry was able to turn its back on hybrid technology for > > so long, and why our politicians refuse to this day to demand > > that the auto industry change its hydrocarbon-loving ways. > > > > The numbers tell the story: the auto industry spent close to $37 > > million on lobbying in 2000. And you can bet that money wasn't > > spent trying to convince Congress to designate a "Windshield > > Wiper Appreciation Week." Although I'm sure Congress would have > > been glad to oblige if its deep-pocket pals in Detroit had only > > asked. After all, the industry has donated over $77 million to > > federal candidates and the political parties since the 1990 > > election -- with $12.5 million doled out during the 2002 election > > cycle. > > > > It also doesn't hurt to have very good friends in very high > > places. Before becoming White House chief of staff, Andy Card was > > an executive at GM, and before that, the chief lobbyist for the > > Big Three auto makers. And you wondered why the administration > > has thrown its considerable weight behind GM's efforts to > > overturn a California law requiring carmakers to put more > > energy-efficient models on the road? > > > > Because of the corporate takeover of our democracy, Washington > > has remained firmly stuck in the Dark Ages of energy policy. Bill > > Clinton came charging into office promising to raise fuel > > efficiency standards to 45 miles per gallon but left without > > having increased it one inch per gallon. And why George W. Bush > > can try and score points by proposing to raise the ludicrously > > low SUV mileage standard by an equally ludicrous 1.5 mpg over the > > next four years. > > > > It's also why the Big Three, once again, have to play catch up > > with Toyota and Honda, which have been putting out hybrid cars > > since 1997. How ironic that if American car buyers want to do > > something truly patriotic, they have to buy Japanese to do it. > > > > So Detroit has sensed -- belatedly but still ahead of the > > slowcoaches in Washington -- that public opinion is shifting -- > > and has taken some baby steps toward meeting the rising demand > > for more socially responsible cars. > > > > Now it's up to all of us to make sure that the pressure and the > > demand continue to grow. Otherwise, the auto industry will gladly > > underfund and under-advertise its hybrid models, allowing them to > > crash and burn -- yet more "proof" that American consumers don't > > really care about anything other than their precious SUVs. > > > > And that would suit those gas-guzzlers in Detroit -- and those > > cash-nuzzlers in Washington - just fine. > > > > ---- > > > > If you have questions or comments, please contact me at > > arianna@ariannaonline.com. > > > > To subscribe/unsubscribe, please visit > > www.ariannaonline.com/columns/maillist.html. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From drillock at earthlink.net Mon Jan 13 11:24:56 2003 From: drillock at earthlink.net (mark drillock) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads References: <20030113053119.GB8457@cybershamanix.com> <20030113143022.GC8966@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: <3E231288.B4B56F2D@earthlink.net> Such enlightened people we diesel folk are. We openly wish for the horrific deaths of millions of people just because we disagree with some political leaders. I guess the use of nuclear weapons is fine as long as the some of the right people get blasted. We are so much better than those we loathe. Smarter and better looking too I hear. Mark Harmon Seaver wrote: ................ > It really would be a blessing if someone would nuke Washington and we could > start over. > > -- > Harmon Seaver > CyberShamanix > http://www.cybershamanix.com > > From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Mon Jan 13 15:30:51 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Those anti-SUV ads In-Reply-To: <3E231288.B4B56F2D@earthlink.net> References: <20030113053119.GB8457@cybershamanix.com> <20030113143022.GC8966@cybershamanix.com> <3E231288.B4B56F2D@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <20030113213051.GA9836@cybershamanix.com> On Mon, Jan 13, 2003 at 11:24:56AM -0800, mark drillock wrote: > Such enlightened people we diesel folk are. We openly wish for the > horrific deaths of millions of people just because we disagree with some > political leaders. Not such a bad trade when you consider the how many deaths already caused by, and soon forthcoming, by those leaders. Not to mention the multimillions rapidly becoming enslaved in the glorious New Greater Amerikan Police State. And it's not just the few, you also must realize that a large share of the population of DC is either directly sucking at the public tit, i.e., working for the Great Satan, or for lobbyists and other hangers on. Getting rid of just a few pols wouldn't do it, there's all those bureaucrats that need to go as well, or nothing would really change. Nor when you consider the alternative -- millions of deaths that would certainly occur if an armed revolution via conventional arms were attempted. Sigh! Not that it's likely to happen. Too many sheeple brainwashed by TV. Now, if Dubbya would actually be stupid enough to get involved in some heavy military action in the Middle East, and then also be braindead enough to start up the draft again -- 8-) -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From knitz at yahoo.com Mon Jan 13 15:13:32 2003 From: knitz at yahoo.com (Karl H. Nitz) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] newer family album Message-ID: <20030113231332.93388.qmail@web12403.mail.yahoo.com> I am looking for an updated VW Family Album that would include MY2002 (2003, too, if possible). If you can assist, please reply directly. Regards, Karl in Johnsburg, IL '94 VW Golf, 141k miles '89 Volvo 240DL, 143k miles '84 Honda VF1100S, 22k miles Pressure bleed your Audi/VW/European OEM brakes by yourself. Check out www.bleederbuddy.com for information on the $10 tool. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com From forrestking at juno.com Mon Jan 13 17:35:07 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hagars messages about the environment and oil pool terrorists Message-ID: <20030113.173555.2160.2.forrestking@juno.com> Hagar, I am starting to get the rythm of reading your posts, seriously, it is kinda like iambic pentameter, anyways, I agree with you!! Forrest On Mon, 13 Jan 2003 06:35:06 -0800 "H .Hagar" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > LOL ---LOL -I came here to get help ----getting a Rabbit diesel > -that would work by -combining 3 scrappers 2 -1980 and one 1982.(The > 1982 is running) .----LOL an now I get involved in the affairs of > the WORLD!!--LOL LOL. > I am past the 70 year mark -and still full of that ---!"American can > do attitude"--was educated (Partly in the USA) --LOL- > so I can NOT keep my yapper shut--TAKE THAT. > All people the -The Blunderbush does NOT like --LOL are > TERRORISTs--likewise the "ENVIRO" --gang say (using the evil rule) > ---that if you drive a SUV--(witout good reason)--you are aiding and > abetting etc.--(BUSH DOCTRINE) --the terrorist-----LOL seems like > every terrorist sits in a POOL of Oil . > More on this if ever I can find time ----LOL got to go time that > 107A pump feeding the 1.6(1982) VW rabbit. > Have fun--Hagar. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From JoErnest at aol.com Tue Jan 14 02:34:16 2003 From: JoErnest at aol.com (JoErnest@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Importing an 89 Jetta TD from Canada Message-ID: -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Towing the car into the US? Sure, but what paperwork is required? Import tax? EPA and DOT certification? JoE -------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 2 From: "weasel" To: Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Importing an 89 Jetta TD from Canada Date: Fri, 10 Jan 2003 12:31:46 -0500 Organization: . If all you need is the engine, why not tow it ?? From r.c.brown at ieee.org Mon Jan 13 23:59:03 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Importing an 89 Jetta TD from Canada References: Message-ID: <3E23C347.D8A4718B@ieee.org> JoErnest@aol.com wrote: > Towing the car into the US? > Sure, but what paperwork is required? Import tax? EPA and DOT certification? See the thread below for a good description: http://www.4x4wire.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=11;t=008837 From h_hagar at prcn.org Tue Jan 14 07:03:55 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] SUVs--global warming-Terrorism-and JESUS. Message-ID: <001401c2bbde$a336b300$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] "What would JESUS drive ?" --LOL LOL LOL. More than the atmosphere is= HEATING up ----LOL . Every morning sitting here --I have a TV tuned to CNN early edition and "Sh= owdown Iraq"----some of you understand. The woman and her adds were on here for a couple of days.---LOL. And "NUKES?" already ------NOW that's HEAT ---- What do I stand for ?????= Lets do all that WE can. To DO something to fix the problems. -----What should be done first ---(according to Hagar?= )Education-Education and education. Learn to read from the same page at the same time.A few good graphs goes a = long way . Pollutants and Greenhouse gas --IS NOT THE SAME ---Warming gas no one ?? C= O2. Biogas and Biodiesel ---does not roll back the amount of carbon in the = atmosphere---only treads water ---effect ?? SMALL but lets do it. I am tr= ying my biodiesel soon -----instead of Propane I shall use CO ---yes carbon= monoxide.Why ? I am up to my as in Douglas Fir carbonwaste. ------More as = time permit. Hagar. -- From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Tue Jan 14 09:15:22 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] v-10tdi Message-ID: <20030114151522.GA10787@cybershamanix.com> Here's a page that has some interesting info about the new vw v-10. Not that I'm at all interested in driving a vehicle with anywhere near that size engine, but hopefully some of the technology, like plasma coated cylinder walls, will be used in the small engines as well. http://www.stealthtdi.com/VWDieselHistory.html -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From h_hagar at prcn.org Tue Jan 14 07:48:28 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injectors and heatshields--I now ounderstand. Message-ID: <000e01c2bbe4$c5f4fd60$0bccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks to you fellas ---Hagar now fully understand --The need to change he= atshields---every time an injector is installed. And how thin the metal on= the HEAD is ---around the injector (Thread) ----make sure to use pr= oper tool T bar or impactwrench. -----Thanks again. PS: I got 4 N= EW shields----dimple is it. -- From LBaird119 at aol.com Tue Jan 14 11:54:21 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injectors and heatshields--I now ounderstand. Message-ID: <113.1d80b096.2b559abd@aol.com> > PS: I got 4 NEW shields----dimple is it. Just be sure all the old ones are out and the new ones go in right-side up! :) (machined side up) Loren From h_hagar at prcn.org Tue Jan 14 09:26:36 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] SUVs and Heated debate. Message-ID: <002301c2bbf2$5c7beb60$0bccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] LOL LOL----One minute ago I finally heard "Blunderbush" (blunderbuss?) ---s= ay he is SICK ---I totally agree. I am a Certified --Bonafide ---100% terrorist ----(Hitler said so)----so = I had to flee My wonderful Amerika -lest I get a fully paid Vacation in Cub= a ----at the curtsey of -- the man who was voted dumbest man in the world = ("by the international community") for 2001. Every time I hear him talk ---= he proves that he deserved the title. I like the guy as a beerdrinking friend---LOL (I lived in Texas a couple of= times)(enjoyed the lifestyle immensely)But commander ? NEVER !. I am= NATO person Navy,Airforce and Army .Does anyone know what kind of History = he studied ???-please let me know -I saw his biography on TV ---interesting= fellow-LOL. Is Bush directly responsible for --the USA dragging its feet ? ----YES YE= S YES ---(it would hurt the USA economy)--- Intellectual dwarf --or GIANT lier. ---more as time permits ----Sun is ou= t ---got to go feed my RABBIT---LOL ---Hagar. -- From h_hagar at prcn.org Tue Jan 14 13:36:44 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel --"Jackrabbit gone berserk"?? you bet 1980 deluxe 4 door. Message-ID: <000001c2bc15$b346ec60$b9ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Some of you may have heard roomers about this condition -------- I had. F= or you who never drove one like that --LOL read on--and the rest -I could n= ot stop you with a bat. It was a 300 dollar Canadian ----"Special" --- Just got it --with a note in= the glove compartment from the police saying noisy exhaust must be fixed a= nd proof delivered to Station.On my way home from "MIDAS" lol ---it spee= ded up when I took foot of pedal---about a KM from driveway.What to do ?---= -brakes were so bad --that stalling the engine in high gear was out (4 spee= d Manual)---managed to coast and brake just short of driveway in ----NEUTRA= L ----15000rpm 20000rpm? ----was silk smooth sound almost like a turbine -= --I sat and waited for the rods and pistons to fly all over the place.---B= ig Rig pulled in front of me and the driver came running with a fire exting= uisher-----Then it died..He told me he thought I was on fire----He was behi= nd IN THE SMOKE ----and smoke there was ---for two Kms.That Rabbit did not = need an injection pump after 10000rpm-----LOL it picked up the crankcase oi= l ----and was quite happy.----HAGAR.----sure was fun. -- From turbobrick at hotmail.com Tue Jan 14 16:14:53 2003 From: turbobrick at hotmail.com (Jeff Rakus) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Let's keep on the subject of VW Diesels Message-ID: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi , I hate wasteful suv's as much as anyone because Most of them I see are driven by tiny women who DON"T need them and drive them irresponsibly while yakking on the cell phone. I've had more than one who has pulled out in front of me because they were on the phone and didn't pay any attention to driving. The other thing is I see are these people driving these things with two passengers ~ the driver + one passenger at most what a waste. People also forget the dangers of a high center of gravity and 4x4's handle differently. I really enjoy the people on this digest I find them to be quite intelligent, But the purpose of this forum is to help each other out with our passion for our VW DIESELS. So let's forget the Suddenly Upsidedown Vehicles and politics & get back to the Diesels! :~) Jeff From forrestking at juno.com Tue Jan 14 16:51:59 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] SUVs--global warming-Terrorism-and JESUS. Message-ID: <20030114.165550.2844.2.forrestking@juno.com> I say, "NUKE THE UNBORN GAY BABY WHALES FOR JESUS" . I think that just pisses everybody off at once - saves breath. Forrest Why be difficult when, with a little effort, you can be impossible. On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 07:03:55 -0800 "H .Hagar" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > "What would JESUS drive ?" --LOL LOL LOL. More than the > atmosphere is HEATING up ----LOL . > Every morning sitting here --I have a TV tuned to CNN early edition > and "Showdown Iraq"----some of you understand. > The woman and her adds were on here for a couple of days.---LOL. > > And "NUKES?" already ------NOW that's HEAT ---- What do I stand > for ????? Lets do all that WE can. To DO something > to fix the problems. -----What should be done first ---(according to > Hagar?)Education-Education and education. > Learn to read from the same page at the same time.A few good graphs > goes a long way . > > Pollutants and Greenhouse gas --IS NOT THE SAME ---Warming gas no > one ?? CO2. Biogas and Biodiesel ---does not roll back the amount of > carbon in the atmosphere---only treads water ---effect ?? SMALL > but lets do it. I am trying my biodiesel soon -----instead of > Propane I shall use CO ---yes carbon monoxide.Why ? I am up to my as > in Douglas Fir carbonwaste. ------More as time permit. > Hagar. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From forrestking at juno.com Tue Jan 14 17:05:49 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Now CO2 extinguishers, was RUnaway Rabbit Message-ID: <20030114.170549.2844.5.forrestking@juno.com> Speaking of CO2 extinguishers... has anybody seen a system that can be set up to blow into the engine compartment but controlled from within the cabin - AND CHEAP? i want less than 100 dollars - it can't be that hard to route tubing and get the right fitting for a CO2 tank :) i think the hard part would be getting it to dump fast enough without freezing... who's up for a 'Forrest's Homemade Fire Suppression System'? Forrest On 14 Jan 2003 17:41:55 -0500 "Gary, Orlando" writes: > Classic case of "runaway diesel". > > Your Canadian special must be just that... Special! > > Either the rings are gone or somehow stuck. What is the history of > this > car? Has it been sitting for very long... like years? Was the > engine > very hot? Was the oil the right viscosity? (Not 0w-30?) > > Did the engine self destruct or did the trucker kill it in time? > CO2 > extinguisher smothers the engine. > > Disconnect the breather hose from the valve cover, and run the > engine. > Change all of the fluids, and especially something to free sticky > rings. > > > -Gary, Orlando > > > On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:36, H .Hagar wrote: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Some of you may have heard roomers about this condition -------- I > had. For you who never drove one like that --LOL read on--and the > rest -I could not stop you with a bat. > > It was a 300 dollar Canadian ----"Special" --- Just got it --with > a note in the glove compartment from the police saying noisy exhaust > must be fixed and proof delivered to Station.On my way home from > "MIDAS" lol ---it speeded up when I took foot of pedal---about a > KM from driveway.What to do ?----brakes were so bad --that stalling > the engine in high gear was out (4 speed Manual)---managed to coast > and brake just short of driveway in ----NEUTRAL ----15000rpm > 20000rpm? ----was silk smooth sound almost like a turbine ---I sat > and waited for the rods and pistons to fly all over the > place.---Big Rig pulled in front of me and the driver came running > with a fire extinguisher-----Then it died..He told me he thought I > was on fire----He was behind IN THE SMOKE ----and smoke there was > ---for two Kms.That Rabbit did not need an injection pump after > 10000rpm-----LOL it picked up the crankcase oil ----and was quite > happy.----HAGAR.----sure was fun. > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From forrestking at juno.com Tue Jan 14 17:01:05 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel --"Jackrabbit gone berserk"?? you bet 1980 deluxe 4 door. Message-ID: <20030114.170549.2844.4.forrestking@juno.com> LMAO - great story, now it is time for rings- should be nothing for a stepper like you :) Forrest On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:36:44 -0800 "H .Hagar" writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Some of you may have heard roomers about this condition -------- I > had. For you who never drove one like that --LOL read on--and the > rest -I could not stop you with a bat. > It was a 300 dollar Canadian ----"Special" --- Just got it --with a > note in the glove compartment from the police saying noisy exhaust > must be fixed and proof delivered to Station.On my way home from > "MIDAS" lol ---it speeded up when I took foot of pedal---about a > KM from driveway.What to do ?----brakes were so bad --that stalling > the engine in high gear was out (4 speed Manual)---managed to coast > and brake just short of driveway in ----NEUTRAL ----15000rpm > 20000rpm? ----was silk smooth sound almost like a turbine ---I sat > and waited for the rods and pistons to fly all over the > place.---Big Rig pulled in front of me and the driver came running > with a fire extinguisher-----Then it died..He told me he thought I > was on fire----He was behind IN THE SMOKE ----and smoke there was > ---for two Kms.That Rabbit did not need an injection pump after > 10000rpm-----LOL it picked up the crankcase oil ----and was quite > happy.----HAGAR.----sure was fun. > -- > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From h_hagar at prcn.org Tue Jan 14 17:24:26 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel "juncrabbit" gone berserk --runaway- 1980 4 door deluxe 1.5L NA. Message-ID: <003101c2bc35$26c49060$51ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yes Gary - and the rest of you --- Here is the HISTORY. It happened abou= t 5 years ago and it was my first Rabbit Diesel.---- 300 dollars Can. and = running-----???? must be a rustbucket ---right ? ---RIGHT. Very low KMs on the clock ---62000. ----Was it sitting somewhere for a long= time ? ---yes. The first owner put in a new battery --- closed the hood --= -Rabbit caught fire ---LOL ----battery was too high.---Melted plastic all o= ver the place. WAS the engine destroyed ?????? Hell NO that why I love these things ----I = pushed into the driveway --and phoned a Person who knew something about Rab= bits ---I said what do I do ? ---He said turn the key and see if it starts-= -- Now blow my socks off----No problem at all----I then took a piece of ru= bber hose and routed the Crankcase vent to the back bumper. By then it was Christmas and I guy drove in to town for a visit with a 1982= Rabbit 2 door.NA 1.6 L. ---On the back was a cardbordsingn --FOR SALE-----= --sent him back to the big town on the Bus.---LOL That is the one I am dr= iving NOW.-- Hagar. -- From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 15 01:39:50 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Now CO2 extinguishers, was RUnaway Rabbit Message-ID: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> > who's up for a 'Forrest's Homemade Fire Suppression System'? Isn't part of the reason (lesser reason, I know) is because diesels aren't terribly likely to burn? :) Loren From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Wed Jan 15 08:41:52 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> 1991 jetta diesel (220kmiles) - German made Yesterday, temps well below freezing in the day, the alternator warning light started flashing. The flashes were rapid and weak. They came on suddenly and then faded, still flashing rapidly, and went out. Later in the trip I turned on the windshield washer and it would not go off until I shut off the ignition and moved the wiper arm around. Alternator light never came on again. Battery is a couple of years old but starts car with no heating at 10F. My guess is both are unrelated, but it was interesting that both happened on the same trip. After I refilled the washer fluid, I found I could stop the flow if I moved the lever around. I am going to check out the wiper switch clean it up and give it a good shot of WD-40 in case any water or moisture is in the switch and to loosen it up. If that does not work, probably have to replace the switch. Not sure about the alternator flashing. If it is a belt slipping problem, I would have expected a more steady light. I have had some belt slipping (squealing) but usually it is the lower steering pump belt and is definitely moisture related. Would appreciate any insight on both problems. Bill T From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 15 08:57:58 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Let's keep on the subject of VW Diesels References: Message-ID: <3E2568E6.4DFAF534@opei.org> Yes, the GAS use is horrendous, but what really gets me is the possibility of being maimed by one of those two to three ton goliaths if it hits you. --Nate Jeff Rakus wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > Hi , > > I hate wasteful suv's as much as anyone because Most of them I see are driven by tiny women who > DON"T need them and drive them irresponsibly while yakking on the cell phone. I've had more than one > who has pulled out in front of me because they were on the phone and didn't pay any attention to driving. > The other thing is I see are these people driving these things with two passengers ~ the driver + one passenger > at most what a waste. People also forget the dangers of a high center of gravity and 4x4's handle differently. > I really enjoy the people on this digest I find them to be quite intelligent, But the purpose of this forum is to > help each other out with our passion for our VW DIESELS. So let's forget the Suddenly Upsidedown Vehicles and > politics & get back to the Diesels! :~) > > Jeff > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 15 09:29:45 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel --"Jackrabbit gone berserk"?? you bet 1980 deluxe 4 door. References: <20030114.170549.2844.4.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <3E257059.E08BEF1B@opei.org> The Boss I used to have a few years back was an investigator for the Office of Defects Investigation at NHTSA. One of his assignments was to investigate the Rabbit Diesel runnaway problem after several complaints were received from owners. They took Rabbit Ds and ran them around on a test track under varying conditions to try to get the desired effect. --Nate Forrest L King wrote: > LMAO - great story, now it is time for rings- should be nothing for a > stepper like you :) > > Forrest > > On Tue, 14 Jan 2003 13:36:44 -0800 "H .Hagar" writes: > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > -- > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > Some of you may have heard roomers about this condition -------- I > > had. For you who never drove one like that --LOL read on--and the > > rest -I could not stop you with a bat. > > It was a 300 dollar Canadian ----"Special" --- Just got it --with a > > note in the glove compartment from the police saying noisy exhaust > > must be fixed and proof delivered to Station.On my way home from > > "MIDAS" lol ---it speeded up when I took foot of pedal---about a > > KM from driveway.What to do ?----brakes were so bad --that stalling > > the engine in high gear was out (4 speed Manual)---managed to coast > > and brake just short of driveway in ----NEUTRAL ----15000rpm > > 20000rpm? ----was silk smooth sound almost like a turbine ---I sat > > and waited for the rods and pistons to fly all over the > > place.---Big Rig pulled in front of me and the driver came running > > with a fire extinguisher-----Then it died..He told me he thought I > > was on fire----He was behind IN THE SMOKE ----and smoke there was > > ---for two Kms.That Rabbit did not need an injection pump after > > 10000rpm-----LOL it picked up the crankcase oil ----and was quite > > happy.----HAGAR.----sure was fun. > > -- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 15 10:11:12 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> For the alternator, remove the external voltage regulator (2 screws on the back) and look at the brushes. I bet they wore too short. For about $4, you can get a set and solder them in. Check the condition of the copper slip rings they ride against for smoothness. These brushes seem to go about every 100,000 miles, or so. By "Wiper arm", I take it you mean the "stalk" on the steering column, not the arm the blade is attached to. There is a set of contacts that "contact" each other as the lever is pulled back. Take a close look as you pull on it. You nay have to remove the steering wheel (24 MM socket, I think). No puller is needed, the wheel just lifts off. Remember to do it w/ it straight, so you install it on the same splines. You then may have to remove the wiper switch. If its BEHIND the turn signal switch, that has to come out first. You may be able to repair it. There may be a relay to check if that does not fix it. --Nate Bill Truesdell wrote: > 1991 jetta diesel (220kmiles) - German made > > Yesterday, temps well below freezing in the day, the alternator warning > light started flashing. The flashes were rapid and weak. They came on > suddenly and then faded, still flashing rapidly, and went out. Later in > the trip I turned on the windshield washer and it would not go off until > I shut off the ignition and moved the wiper arm around. > > Alternator light never came on again. Battery is a couple of years old > but starts car with no heating at 10F. > > My guess is both are unrelated, but it was interesting that both > happened on the same trip. > > After I refilled the washer fluid, I found I could stop the flow if I > moved the lever around. I am going to check out the wiper switch clean > it up and give it a good shot of WD-40 in case any water or moisture is > in the switch and to loosen it up. If that does not work, probably have > to replace the switch. > > Not sure about the alternator flashing. If it is a belt slipping > problem, I would have expected a more steady light. I have had some belt > slipping (squealing) but usually it is the lower steering pump belt and > is definitely moisture related. > > Would appreciate any insight on both problems. > > Bill T > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From scameron at compmore.net Wed Jan 15 10:59:51 2003 From: scameron at compmore.net (Sandy Cameron) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel --"Jackrabbit gone berserk"?? you bet 1980 deluxe 4 door. Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20030115155951.0067f370@mail.compmore.net> At 09:29 AM 1/15/03 -0500, you wrote: >The Boss I used to have a few years back was an investigator for the Office >of Defects Investigation at NHTSA. One of his assignments was to investigate >the Rabbit Diesel runnaway problem after several complaints were received >from owners. They took Rabbit Ds and ran them around on a test track under >varying conditions to try to get the desired effect. > >--Nate > My 'Goldie" with it's original engine would do this regulary above 50mph, due to a broken ring in one cylinder, and the blowby forcing oil out the valve cover vent into the air induction. What a romp! It would start to gain speed with foot off the accelerator, and lay down the mother of all smokescreens, what a way to get rid of tailgaters. I made an "oil separator" by cutting a small hole in a discarded 1 gal oil jug, and routing the vent into the jug, then over to the air induction with another hose. Empty the jug occasionally, no more problem. Car now has 450,000km on it, thanks to roadside junker engine found nearby, for $250CDN (about $3:95USD) It started just fine the other day up at the camp at zero f. Sandy From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Wed Jan 15 11:08:29 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> Message-ID: <3E25877D.5020505@suscom-maine.net> Nate Wall wrote: >For the alternator, remove the external voltage regulator (2 screws on the >back) and look at the brushes. I bet they wore too short. For about $4, you >can get a set and solder them in. Check the condition of the copper slip >rings they ride against for smoothness. These brushes seem to go about every >100,000 miles, or so. > >By "Wiper arm", I take it you mean the "stalk" on the steering column, not >the arm the blade is attached to. There is a set of contacts that "contact" >each other as the lever is pulled back. Take a close look as you pull on it. >You nay have to remove the steering wheel (24 MM socket, I think). No puller >is needed, the wheel just lifts off. Remember to do it w/ it straight, so >you install it on the same splines. You then may have to remove the wiper >switch. If its BEHIND the turn signal switch, that has to come out first. >You may be able to repair it. > >There may be a relay to check if that does not fix it. > >--Nate > >Bill Truesdell wrote: > > > >>1991 jetta diesel (220kmiles) - German made >> >>Yesterday, temps well below freezing in the day, the alternator warning >>light started flashing. The flashes were rapid and weak. They came on >>suddenly and then faded, still flashing rapidly, and went out. Later in >>the trip I turned on the windshield washer and it would not go off until >>I shut off the ignition and moved the wiper arm around. >> >>Alternator light never came on again. Battery is a couple of years old >>but starts car with no heating at 10F. >> >>My guess is both are unrelated, but it was interesting that both >>happened on the same trip. >> >>After I refilled the washer fluid, I found I could stop the flow if I >>moved the lever around. I am going to check out the wiper switch clean >>it up and give it a good shot of WD-40 in case any water or moisture is >>in the switch and to loosen it up. If that does not work, probably have >>to replace the switch. >> >>Not sure about the alternator flashing. If it is a belt slipping >>problem, I would have expected a more steady light. I have had some belt >>slipping (squealing) but usually it is the lower steering pump belt and >>is definitely moisture related. >> >>Would appreciate any insight on both problems. >> >>Bill T >> >>_______________________________________________ >>vwdiesel mailing list >>vwdiesel@vwfans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel >> >> > > > > > > Nate, What is the size of the brushes? Problem is this is our only car and cannot remove the brushes to take with me to get new ones. Does sound like the fix for the problem. Bill T From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 15 11:17:40 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> <3E25877D.5020505@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: <3E2589A4.B1FBBA4A@opei.org> If your lucky, the parts jobber will have a listing for them. How about a little help from those here that have bought them before? Where did you get them? They are hard to locate for some reason. VW may have a listing, check. It might not be too much $. You can actually R & R the regulator w/ just a screwdriver in the parkinglot. It takes only a couple minutes. Then, the parts can try to match them up. The best way, if there is no listing, is to unsolder them for a better sizing. Once, I actually had to sand some that were close, but a little too wide. Just make sure the leads are out the back and not out the sides of the brushes. Borg Warner is a US maker. One thing you can do is call Bosch and order some, but that will take some time. Also, for about $30, you can buy the regulator if you absolutely can't get the brushes. Use a 25 Watt soldering iron and thin rosin core solder to solder in the new ones. Sometimes you get new brush springs in the box, sometimes you don't. --Nate Bill Truesdell wrote: > Nate Wall wrote: > > >For the alternator, remove the external voltage regulator (2 screws on the > >back) and look at the brushes. I bet they wore too short. For about $4, you > >can get a set and solder them in. Check the condition of the copper slip > >rings they ride against for smoothness. These brushes seem to go about every > >100,000 miles, or so. > > > >By "Wiper arm", I take it you mean the "stalk" on the steering column, not > >the arm the blade is attached to. There is a set of contacts that "contact" > >each other as the lever is pulled back. Take a close look as you pull on it. > >You nay have to remove the steering wheel (24 MM socket, I think). No puller > >is needed, the wheel just lifts off. Remember to do it w/ it straight, so > >you install it on the same splines. You then may have to remove the wiper > >switch. If its BEHIND the turn signal switch, that has to come out first. > >You may be able to repair it. > > > >There may be a relay to check if that does not fix it. > > > >--Nate > > > >Bill Truesdell wrote: > > > > > > > >>1991 jetta diesel (220kmiles) - German made > >> > >>Yesterday, temps well below freezing in the day, the alternator warning > >>light started flashing. The flashes were rapid and weak. They came on > >>suddenly and then faded, still flashing rapidly, and went out. Later in > >>the trip I turned on the windshield washer and it would not go off until > >>I shut off the ignition and moved the wiper arm around. > >> > >>Alternator light never came on again. Battery is a couple of years old > >>but starts car with no heating at 10F. > >> > >>My guess is both are unrelated, but it was interesting that both > >>happened on the same trip. > >> > >>After I refilled the washer fluid, I found I could stop the flow if I > >>moved the lever around. I am going to check out the wiper switch clean > >>it up and give it a good shot of WD-40 in case any water or moisture is > >>in the switch and to loosen it up. If that does not work, probably have > >>to replace the switch. > >> > >>Not sure about the alternator flashing. If it is a belt slipping > >>problem, I would have expected a more steady light. I have had some belt > >>slipping (squealing) but usually it is the lower steering pump belt and > >>is definitely moisture related. > >> > >>Would appreciate any insight on both problems. > >> > >>Bill T > >> > >>_______________________________________________ > >>vwdiesel mailing list > >>vwdiesel@vwfans.com > >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Nate, > What is the size of the brushes? Problem is this is our only car and > cannot remove the brushes to take with me to get new ones. Does sound > like the fix for the problem. > > Bill T From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 15 11:14:42 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel --"Jackrabbit gone berserk"?? you bet 1980 delux... Message-ID: > They took Rabbit Ds and ran them around on a test track under > varying conditions to try to get the desired effect. Gee, never thought of getting one to runaway was DESIRED affect! ;-) Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 15 11:18:34 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer Message-ID: <90.30e692d6.2b56e3da@aol.com> Odd stuff like that is usually from one of two things. Normal glitches in wiring, switches, etc., or a normal bad connection causing a ground circuit feedback. Those do some really weird, unrelated things! Sounds like you have a dirt or sticky switch for the washer. A flashing alt. light is strange. Solid glows of varying degrees are pretty easy to diagnose but for a flash I guess I'd look for a loose wire or check the brushes like Nate suggested. Loren From worb at finning.ca Wed Jan 15 09:54:12 2003 From: worb at finning.ca (worb@finning.ca) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Coolant Heater Message-ID: Anybody have a coolant heater installed in the TD or TDI? Looking for install pics, etc. TIA, Walter From drillock at earthlink.net Wed Jan 15 10:34:35 2003 From: drillock at earthlink.net (mark drillock) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> <3E25877D.5020505@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: <3E25A9BB.770AE13D@earthlink.net> A possible short term fix is to remove the regulator/brush assembly and pull the brushes out as far as possible. They are soldered in on a leash of braided wire. When the brushes wear too far the leash is too short and the brushes don't make good contact. Pulling on the brush a little stretches the leash slightly and allows better contact for a short time. The same reg/brush assembly fits many other VW cars, plus Audi, Volvo, BMW, Mercedes, etc. Most Bosch alternators of the 80s use the similar part. Get one from a junked car if you need to. Some are squarish, some are roundish, all are 14 volt. Mark Bill Truesdell wrote: > > Nate Wall wrote: > > >For the alternator, remove the external voltage regulator (2 screws on the > >back) and look at the brushes. I bet they wore too short. For about $4, you > >can get a set and solder them in. Check the condition of the copper slip > >rings they ride against for smoothness. These brushes seem to go about every > >100,000 miles, or so. > From william.d.hamblen at dartmouth.edu Wed Jan 15 13:24:05 2003 From: william.d.hamblen at dartmouth.edu (William D. Hamblen) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Coolant Heater In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Walter, On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 worb@finning.ca wrote: > Anybody have a coolant heater installed in the TD or TDI? > Looking for install pics, etc. http://www.tdiheater.com/ sells a kit for A4 Golf/Jetta TDIs. It looks like all off-the-shelf parts, so I'm sure he turns a tidy profit on them, but it also seems pretty well integrated into the engine compartment. - Bill From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Wed Jan 15 13:37:59 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> Message-ID: <3E25AA87.4080906@suscom-maine.net> Nate Wall wrote: >For the alternator, remove the external voltage regulator (2 screws on the >back) and look at the brushes. I bet they wore too short. For about $4, you >can get a set and solder them in. Check the condition of the copper slip >rings they ride against for smoothness. These brushes seem to go about every >100,000 miles, or so. > >By "Wiper arm", I take it you mean the "stalk" on the steering column, not >the arm the blade is attached to. There is a set of contacts that "contact" >each other as the lever is pulled back. Take a close look as you pull on it. >You nay have to remove the steering wheel (24 MM socket, I think). No puller >is needed, the wheel just lifts off. Remember to do it w/ it straight, so >you install it on the same splines. You then may have to remove the wiper >switch. If its BEHIND the turn signal switch, that has to come out first. >You may be able to repair it. > >There may be a relay to check if that does not fix it. > >--Nate > >Bill Truesdell wrote: > > > >>1991 jetta diesel (220kmiles) - German made >> >>Yesterday, temps well below freezing in the day, the alternator warning >>light started flashing. The flashes were rapid and weak. They came on >>suddenly and then faded, still flashing rapidly, and went out. Later in >>the trip I turned on the windshield washer and it would not go off until >>I shut off the ignition and moved the wiper arm around. >> >> >> Fixed the washer problem. There was an accumulation of dust which did not allow the arm to seat properly. Took it all apart and reassembled and now fine. But when I tried to start it for a test run, the battery was near dead. The bearings in the alternator are suspect so I have decided to replace it (Bosch reworked). It has been on my list of things to do for a long time so this just makes it no longer a round tuit. Curious why the light did not go on and stay on, or am I misunderstanding what the light actually means. I thought it was a charging light, but it appears if the battery is fine it will stay off. Bill T From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 15 13:42:13 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Coolant Heater References: Message-ID: <3E25AB85.A9BDAD28@opei.org> Well, for some odd reason the instructions that came w/ mine said to install in the RIGHT rear freeze plug in the block. They emphasized this, but gave no reason. This was an Autobahn block heater I bought at VW many years ago. Why not the middle freeze plug? wouldn't heating be more uniform. Perhaps the right rear was specified to aid in flow from convection. Well, I installed it myself and it took HOURS!. The center freeze plug would have been easy. The right rear plug was caged in by the Right Rear engine mount support and the turbo oil drain line. It literally took several hours to chisel a hole barely big enough to get a seal puller hook in there. There was no way to drill it. That plug was incredibly tight. I thought I broke the block when it let loose after I was pushing on the seal puller w/ both feet w/ all my strength. Since this was immediately after I bought the Jetta TD, I was not smart about things. Now, I would have removed the engine mount and turbo oil return line and had the car up as high as possible and would have drilled a nice big hole in the plug. The deaaler wanted $85 to install the heater. That was about 12 years ago. Money was almost nonexistent then. --Nate worb@finning.ca wrote: > Anybody have a coolant heater installed in the TD or TDI? > Looking for install pics, etc. > > TIA, > Walter > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 15 14:02:32 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Vintage VW Motor on Instrumented Test Stand References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> <3E25AA87.4080906@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: <3E25B048.CB246436@opei.org> You guys gotta see this pic. Sorry for the non-diesel content, but its VW. Thas is a pic of 30 HP VW engine on a fully guaged test stand in the early '50s. from a manual someone is selling on e-Bay. Click on the "enlarge image" See: http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/garyvw/Mvc635s.jpg?&allow_track_link=1&track=0221237d7f-85b04&pt=bidpay --Nate From forrestking at juno.com Wed Jan 15 17:25:44 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Now CO2 extinguishers, was RUnaway Rabbit Message-ID: <20030115.172545.3824.0.forrestking@juno.com> Ahh yes, BUT, CO2 will kill a runaway rabbit - it is not only fire fighter, but an engine saver. On Wed, 15 Jan 2003 01:39:50 EST LBaird119@aol.com writes: > > who's up for a 'Forrest's Homemade Fire Suppression System'? > > Isn't part of the reason (lesser reason, I know) is because > diesels aren't > terribly likely to burn? :) > Loren > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From AudiQuattro1205 at aol.com Wed Jan 15 19:48:08 2003 From: AudiQuattro1205 at aol.com (AudiQuattro1205@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list Message-ID: <187.147e80c9.2b575b48@aol.com> Hello all my name is Saul and i live in Southeastern MA. I recently purchased a 1991 Ecodiesel. I understand that these cars are rather rare. I bought the car because i have a 100 mile commute so MPG was very important in my choice of car. It has 192,000 miles on it and seems to run very well. I have heard that these engines are damn near bulletproof so i did not hesitate in purschasing the car with all that milage on it. Now i have never owned a diesel before so upkeep with this car is a whole new world to me. I need to replace the fuel filter and i read that filling the filter when changing it with ATF helps to lube the injector pump and to also clean the injectors and pump,is this true sounds wacky to me. Also, I was told it would not be a bad idea to put 2 stroke oil or even motor oil in my fuel when i fill up, again is this for real??? Is there any other maintenance issues that any of you could enlighten me with it would be greatly appreciated.. The other thing is this i am new to diesels,but i'm not new to turbo's. I have built and modified many turbocharged gas engines, but never a diesel. Seeing as how my car came equipped with a turbo the thought of modding it has crossed my mind many a time. I would very much like to put an intercooler on it, from what I understand intercooling a diesel has the same effect it has on a gas engine. I also wouldn't mind turning up the boost some, but the part that gets me is this a diesel runs by detonation which IS VERY BAD WITH A GAS ENGINE!!! I have no idea how to tune a diesel engine, from what i gather you can pump all the air you want into a diesel it wouldn't make much difference unless you supply it with extra fuel. For tuning a gas engine i usually use a air/fuel ratio gauge and for extreme applications i use an EGT meter, but with a diesel i keep reading about looking at the smoke coming out of the tailpipe as an indicator as to how rich or lean the engine is running, is this correct for diesel tuning or is there a more precise method?? I am very excited to be learing more about making a TD engine more powerful i enjoy learning new things especially anything to do with cars. So any info that any of you can give me would be greatly appreciated. Lastly one of my VW friends was at Waterfest last year and he said that there were some really well done and modded TDI's running around are any of you on this list?? Sorry, for the long winded post, but i just want to understand my car as completely as possible. Thank's in adavnce SAUL. From scameron at compmore.net Wed Jan 15 21:35:31 2003 From: scameron at compmore.net (Sandy Cameron) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: Did the Rabbit do it with you driving it---??? --"Runaway". Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20030116023531.00678bc0@mail.compmore.net> At 04:26 PM 1/15/03 -0800, you wrote: >Mine had ONE broken ring as well---would you describe the car -----This one had about 62000 Km on the odo. >I have dealers say -never heard of it ! ---Capilano VW BC.-----and one mechanic here doubting my word --- LOL.Scary with no brakes and going downhill.----but for 300 dollars ???--hell I was laughing my head of ----- > >Thanks --Hagar. Mine is a 1987 Jetta turbo diesel. the original engine broke a ring in #4 around 300,000km, and then the fun began. my son discovered it on a trip to toronto and thought he had blown up the engine until he hauled it down with the brakes, and then it was normal again. I didn't know about the broken ring until I took it out of the car, but I was suspicious that would be the problem. I drove it 2 years in that condition, with the "oil separator" until the "smoke-downs" became embarassing and it got too hard to start in cold weather. That's when I found the rusty rabbit up the road for $250, which I later found contained a Volks Canada remanufactured turbo diesel in like new condition. I'm still driving that engine in the jetta at 450,000km and runs perfect. No oil consumption, starts at unbelievable low temperatures, and runs just fine on canola oil (where can I buy that in 45 gal drums?) When I opened the old engine, it looked like the edge of the piston below the precombustion chamber had been eroded away, right down to the ring. Not sure if the ring was actually broken as I did not dismantle the short block, Gave it to Dominique in Guelph and he posted the tear-down on his web page. http://kozmik.guelph.on.ca/gtdproject/autopsy.htm The runaway thing was a significant problem for a lot of old volks (pun intended), and VW finally sold a baffle to fit under the valve cover of engines with excessive blow-by, to prevent the oil from getting into the vent. Sandy From flub at adelphia.net Wed Jan 15 22:31:00 2003 From: flub at adelphia.net (Bradley Flubacher) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] An odd 1.6L head Message-ID: <3E262774.5090009@adelphia.net> I was just about to bolt on a head when I noticed something strange- a bit of the red sealant on the gasket was clearly visible from the rear of the engine. I looked closer and saw that near the exact center of the head, an aluminum cast ridge extends from the top down toward the base of the head where it should mate with the block. The ridge begins just below the intake ports for cylinders 2 & 3. I have several other heads here, and all of them have this same ridge, but it extends all the way to the block, allowing a nice seal with the head gasket. However, the head I've rebuilt and is ready for this engine has a ridge that stops just above where it should mate with the block- Maybe 1 cm, or so. Someone must have seen a head like this one. What's the story? Does it require a special head gasket? Is this difference something to worry about? It seems that I may not get a seal around the perimeter of the head/block due to this feature. I hope this makes sense to someone. I can provide a picture if necessary. Waiting anxiously, Brad Flubacher State College, PA From flub at adelphia.net Wed Jan 15 22:31:22 2003 From: flub at adelphia.net (Bradley Flubacher) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] An odd 1.6L NA head? Message-ID: <3E26278A.8090700@adelphia.net> I was just about to bolt on a head when I noticed something strange- a bit of the red sealant on the gasket was clearly visible from the rear of the engine. I looked closer and saw that near the exact center of the head, an aluminum cast ridge extends from the top down toward the base of the head where it should mate with the block. The ridge begins just below the intake ports for cylinders 2 & 3. I have several other heads here, and all of them have this same ridge, but it extends all the way to the block, allowing a nice seal with the head gasket. However, the head I've rebuilt and is ready for this engine has a ridge that stops just above where it should mate with the block- Maybe 1 cm, or so. Someone must have seen a head like this one. What's the story? Does it require a special head gasket? Is this difference something to worry about? It seems that I may not get a seal around the perimeter of the head/block due to this feature. I hope this makes sense to someone. I can provide a picture if necessary. Waiting anxiously, Brad Flubacher State College, PA From teacher525 at juno.com Wed Jan 15 21:31:42 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvement? Message-ID: <20030115.213151.-1029495.0.teacher525@juno.com> Finally getting around to changing the partly clogged radiator in my aircon Caddy. Since I now have a 1.6TD engine, it might be good to improve the cooling. It currently has the single 11 inch fan, radiator fins 12.25 x 21.5 x 1.25 inches. Is there a thicker radiator that will fit like 2 inches? How about pulling off fan shroud and using two 10 inch electric fans? Thanks. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 00:00:14 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Vintage VW Motor on Instrumented Test Stand References: <1a2.f24235a.2b565c36@aol.com> <3E256520.6020801@suscom-maine.net> <3E257A10.36A90764@opei.org> <3E25AA87.4080906@suscom-maine.net> <3E25B048.CB246436@opei.org> Message-ID: Judging by the air cleaner, it looks like an 1192cc, 25hp motor to me. };-) Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nate Wall" To: "Bill Truesdell" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 1:02 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Vintage VW Motor on Instrumented Test Stand > You guys gotta see this pic. Sorry for the non-diesel content, but its VW. Thas > is a pic of 30 HP VW engine on a fully guaged test stand in the early '50s. from > a manual someone is selling on e-Bay. Click on the "enlarge image" See: > > http://imagehost.auctionwatch.com/bin/viewimage.x/00000000/garyvw/Mvc635s.jp g?&allow_track_link=1&track=0221237d7f-85b04&pt=bidpay > > --Nate > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From r.c.brown at ieee.org Wed Jan 15 22:17:18 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvement? References: <20030115.213151.-1029495.0.teacher525@juno.com> Message-ID: <3E264E6E.1EB49153@ieee.org> Milton Kaplan wrote: > > Finally getting around to changing the partly clogged radiator in my > aircon Caddy. > > Since I now have a 1.6TD engine, it might be good to improve the cooling. > > It currently has the single 11 inch fan, radiator fins 12.25 x 21.5 x > 1.25 inches. > > Is there a thicker radiator that will fit like 2 inches? > > How about pulling off fan shroud and using two 10 inch electric fans? I had my brass/copper 2-row Modine rebuilt with a 3-row core: http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/VWpickup.shtml#Engine also run an overdrive water pump pulley and will be adding an oil cooler. So far the first two have made a significant cooling improvement. I think there is a 2-fan shroud on some of the gas VWs. From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 02:17:23 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Coolant Heater Message-ID: <35.324ea90c.2b57b683@aol.com> > Anybody have a coolant heater installed in the TD or TDI? > Looking for install pics, etc. > Not all that tough in the TD. TDI looks a bit harder to do since the turbo is below the manifolds instead of above. Haven't really looked but it's darn hard to get much of a look at the turbo! On the TD don't follow the directions like Nate did! ;-) Put it in the center hole and it's much easier! Not even a bad job if you have an air chisel available. Get enough of a slot in it to get an angle ended pry bar in and pry. Clean with emory cloth, put a dab of grease around the opening and install the freeze plug heater. Of course then there's the super-deluxe version that Lee (?) put in. You could nearly heat your house with it! :) Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 02:31:04 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer Message-ID: <1aa.eedd096.2b57b9b8@aol.com> > Curious why the light did not go on and stay on, or am I > misunderstanding what the light actually means. I thought it was a > charging light, but it appears if the battery is fine it will stay off. > AN alternator light isn't your grandfather's "idiot light". ;-) You can do a lot of diagnosing with the silly little things. EC had a very good article on it years ago. It really opened my eyes to what a tool it is! If the light glows dimly, generally only visible at night, then look for a bad connection. Usually at the alternator or one of the small + wires to the battery. If it comes on at higher rpm I think that meant brushes. Not going off until higher rpms were hit was dirty connections again I think, or diodes. A steady dim glow I think is diodes. The first glow I mentioned tends to vary with rpm. The idiot light is simply in the electrical path of power to the field. With no power to the field and alternator just can't get excited. ;) Although I found with high enough rpm they will self excite. The B+ (field) wire broke off the connector on my Rabbit. I though the bulb had burned out at first. It would still charge but you had to wind it way up to get it to. Once the alternator starts charging, it no longer is taking power through the idiot light so it goes out. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 03:06:45 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list Message-ID: <147.7f55ff9.2b57c215@aol.com> > I have heard that these engines are damn near bulletproof so i did not > hesitate in purschasing the car with all that milage on it. Not quite bulletproof. If you let the coolant get low, or timing belt too tight or the pump bushing gets worn, then they're pretty fragile. Running the right oil is much more critical for the engine's health than with a gas engine also. > Now i have never owned a diesel before so upkeep with this car is a whole > new world to me. I need to replace the fuel filter and i read that filling > the filter when changing it with ATF helps to lube the injector pump and to > also clean the injectors and pump, is this true sounds wacky to me. Also, I > was told it would not be a bad idea to put 2 stroke oil or even motor oil in > my fuel when i fill up, again is this for real??? Don't fill it with ATF unless you have good reason to. Once in a great while won't hurt anything but running Stanadyne fuel additive is the best thing you can do if you want to run an additive. Marc in Spain came up with the 2 cycle oil thing and it does seem to work. Better mileage, quieter running, less smoke and more power! :) Best anyone has come up with, it has an ingredient in it that looks to be similar to some polymer that when used with gas, makes for more even burning. Don't use motor oil unless it's for emergency fuel. BTDT! > Is there any other maintenance issues that any of you could enlighten me > with it would be greatly appreciated.. Adjust the valves, make sure to replace the timing belt about every 60K. Don't overtighten it and the "90 degree twist" method used on the gas belts DOES NOT PERTAIN! Use a DIESEL RATED oil. Generally a 15W/40. Set your pump and cam timing properly. The other thing is this i am new to > diesels, but i'm not new to turbo's. I have built and modified many > turbocharged gas engines, but never a diesel. Seeing as how my car came > equipped with a turbo the thought of modding it has crossed my mind many a > time. I would very much like to put an intercooler on it, from what I > understand intercooling a diesel has the same effect it has on a gas engine. Yes, and no. On a gas it keeps the charge cooler so you can run more timing and slightly more fuel. On a diesel it simply increases the air density. This equates to more complete burning, better power, less smoke and run cooler. It makes room to turn up the fuel and get even more power. :) > I also wouldn't mind turning up the boost some, but the part that gets me is > this a diesel runs by detonation which IS VERY BAD WITH A GAS ENGINE!!! I > have no idea how to tune a diesel engine, from what i gather you can pump > all > the air you want into a diesel it wouldn't make much difference unless you > supply it with extra fuel. Again turning up the boost will do the same as adding an intercooler. It adds more power but the real gains come from using the excess air by adding more fuel. More boost means more heat so an intercooler starts becoming mandatory or the increase in temp will partly defeat the higher pressure because of the decreasing density from the heat. For tuning a gas engine i usually use a air/fuel > ratio gauge and for extreme applications i use an EGT meter, but with a > diesel i keep reading about looking at the smoke coming out of the tailpipe > as an indicator as to how rich or lean the engine is running, is this correct > for diesel tuning or is there a more precise method?? The pyrometer is the FIRST tool on hopping up a TD. It's not an extreme tool. It can diagnose bad injectors, loss of fuel, several things once you learn to read it and the "normal" readings under each condition, for your car. Pretty much anything goes, so to speak, so long as you keep your smoke down and the EGT below ~1200 F post turbine I am very excited to > be learing more about making a TD engine more powerful i enjoy learning new > things especially anything to do with cars. So any info that any of you can > give me would be greatly appreciated. 2 1/2" exhaust with a LOW restriction muffler. Unlike a gas engine, diesels don't like back pressure and it really cuts back on the turbo. > Lastly one of my VW friends was at Waterfest last year and he said that > there were some really well done and modded TDI's running around are any of > you on this list?? > Sorry, for the long winded post, but i just want to understand my car as > completely as possible. Thank's in adavnce SAUL. Welcome to the list and prepare to sit back and learn about more than just VW diesels! ;-D Do first things first and it's doubtful anybody here will tell you how to turn up your pump until you have a pyrometer. It's just too easy to damage your engine otherwise. A good place to shop for gauges, rebuilt injectors, K&N filters, Stanadyne etc, is www.dieselpage.com. Loren From scott3491 at insightbb.com Thu Jan 16 03:32:06 2003 From: scott3491 at insightbb.com (Scott Kair) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvements Message-ID: <007301c2bd43$0afff400$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> >>I think there is a 2-fan shroud on some of the gas VWs.<< TD Quantums have an electrically driven 2-fan shroud, but in stock trim it's a good bit too wide to fit an A1 radiator. We measured the unit from my destroyed Quantum for possible retrofitting to my Caddy and found that we'd have to fabricate a shroud. Since cooling wasn't that great an issue, we didn't bother. Late A2 Jettas, or at least my 92 ECO, have an unusual 2-fan arrangement. Rather than two fans governed by by separate thermo-electric and a/c switches, as the B-bodies were, the fans are mechanically linked by a belt. I don't know whether that shroud can be fitted to an A1 radiator, or whether a complete radiator/shroud could be grafted to an A1. It might be worth looking through a junkyard, though, as it seems to stand to reason that a less efficient gasoline engine would put out more waste heat and therefore benefit from twin fans. I seem to recall a thread about the ECO's link belt occasionally failing, but in my experience the Quantum arrangement worked quite well. One fan was connected to the radiator thermoswitch and the other came on when the a/c button was on. I drove mine in traffic on some pretty hot days and it rarely nudged past the halfway mark on the gauge. If gas Jettas had a similar arrangement that can be adapted to an A1, it might be worth looking into. HTH, Scott Kair From bjornar.huse at mimer.no Thu Jan 16 10:50:48 2003 From: bjornar.huse at mimer.no (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F8rnar_Huse?=) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Lost glow today In-Reply-To: <20030116072051.23270.93945.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: Hello! New to the list, but not diesels. Have had VW and other diesels in the past, from 1.6 NA and up to a tuned and chipped Excursion 7.3 td with around 330 hp. My A6 2,5 V6 just lost its glow. I have a suspicion it happened due to plugging and unplugging a Tunit box from Bromley's diesel tuning (UK, similar to KCR box in Sweden and probably other branders of the same box manufacture). I hotwired the plugs and they work. Fuses are OK, Relay works out of the car, but does not click when in position. It could be that the sensor for engine temp reads wrong, but shouldn't the glow plugs light anyway, even if the ECU thinks the engine is warm? (Reason I think this is because it started relatively easy this morning at +2 C). Does anyone know which sensor sends the engine temp to the ECU? (oil and water temp gages read correct). Alternately; does anyone know which wire (color) triggers the plug relay, so that I can hotwire a momentary switch to glow the engine manually? Bj?rnar Huse Heimdal 25 N-6020 ?lesund, Norway www.bgnett.no/~bjornar Tel. 41555 411 Fax 95 56 73 91 1999 Audi A6 2.5tdi Quattro Avant 1981 Range Rover 3500 V8 man. 1947 Studebaker M-15 From teacher525 at juno.com Thu Jan 16 02:37:35 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Radiator Fan Options Message-ID: <20030116.023738.-714401.0.teacher525@juno.com> For improving the cooling on the Caddy, how about the 2 speed 5 blade fan maybe on Jetta? Will it fit on the fan shroud? ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Thu Jan 16 07:31:36 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Flashing alternator light and windshield washer References: <1aa.eedd096.2b57b9b8@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E26A628.30807@suscom-maine.net> LBaird119@aol.com wrote: >>Curious why the light did not go on and stay on, or am I >> misunderstanding what the light actually means. I thought it was a >> charging light, but it appears if the battery is fine it will stay off. >> >> >> > AN alternator light isn't your grandfather's "idiot light". ;-) You can >do a >lot of diagnosing with the silly little things. EC had a very good article >on >it years ago. > Thanks for the info and it explains a lot. Bill T From h_hagar at prcn.org Thu Jan 16 06:07:07 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW Rabbit diesel -- 1982 1.6 NA.--Timing belt. Message-ID: <001601c2bd69$10871860$a3ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Thanks to this forum ----The old (70+) stepper (non mechanic) feels absolutely confident to change his first Timing belt. Will let you all know how it goes --LOL LOL Hagar. -- PS: Cameron I enjoyed your joke about OLD Volks ---LOL. -- From kadm at pugetsound.net Thu Jan 16 06:34:27 2003 From: kadm at pugetsound.net (Dana Morphew) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list References: <187.147e80c9.2b575b48@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E26C2F3.50707@pugetsound.net> I have a little bit to add. If you use ATF, use type F only (the others have "friction modifiers" that might harm the pump). With my 1.6 n.a. I had low compression (low 300s) on two of the cyls., so I ran ATF (1 qt. to a tank for two tanks worth) through it, checked compression, and all cyls. then read between 475 and 510. I believe you have hydraulic lifters so no valve adjustment required. Get a Bentley manual for your steed. Dana AudiQuattro1205@aol.com wrote: > Hello all my name is Saul and i live in Southeastern MA. I recently > purchased a 1991 Ecodiesel. From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 16 09:46:02 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list References: <187.147e80c9.2b575b48@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E26C5A9.186F1F81@opei.org> About the increase in performance..... With the EcoDiesel, you do have a turbo, but you DO NOT have the proper injection pump for optimal power. You need a true TD pump that has the boost enrichment device on it. It increases fuel as boost increases. The Eco Ds lacked this. Others can chime in about increasing the boost levels and adjusting the boost diaphrams and the full load stop screw for more fuel and using boost and EGT guages. Yes, an IC can do wonders at increased boost and fuel levels. Race Ware head studs are also a good investment to keep the head gasket intact under these stressfull contitions. --nate AudiQuattro1205@aol.com wrote: > Hello all my name is Saul and i live in Southeastern MA. I recently > purchased a 1991 Ecodiesel. I understand that these cars are rather rare. I > bought the car because i have a 100 mile commute so MPG was very important in > my choice of car. It has 192,000 miles on it and seems to run very well. I > have heard that these engines are damn near bulletproof so i did not hesitate > in purschasing the car with all that milage on it. > Now i have never owned a diesel before so upkeep with this car is a whole > new world to me. I need to replace the fuel filter and i read that filling > the filter when changing it with ATF helps to lube the injector pump and to > also clean the injectors and pump,is this true sounds wacky to me. Also, I > was told it would not be a bad idea to put 2 stroke oil or even motor oil in > my fuel when i fill up, again is this for real??? > Is there any other maintenance issues that any of you could enlighten me > with it would be greatly appreciated.. The other thing is this i am new to > diesels,but i'm not new to turbo's. I have built and modified many > turbocharged gas engines, but never a diesel. Seeing as how my car came > equipped with a turbo the thought of modding it has crossed my mind many a > time. I would very much like to put an intercooler on it, from what I > understand intercooling a diesel has the same effect it has on a gas engine. > I also wouldn't mind turning up the boost some, but the part that gets me is > this a diesel runs by detonation which IS VERY BAD WITH A GAS ENGINE!!! I > have no idea how to tune a diesel engine, from what i gather you can pump all > the air you want into a diesel it wouldn't make much difference unless you > supply it with extra fuel. For tuning a gas engine i usually use a air/fuel > ratio gauge and for extreme applications i use an EGT meter, but with a > diesel i keep reading about looking at the smoke coming out of the tailpipe > as an indicator as to how rich or lean the engine is running, is this correct > for diesel tuning or is there a more precise method?? I am very excited to > be learing more about making a TD engine more powerful i enjoy learning new > things especially anything to do with cars. So any info that any of you can > give me would be greatly appreciated. > Lastly one of my VW friends was at Waterfest last year and he said that > there were some really well done and modded TDI's running around are any of > you on this list?? > Sorry, for the long winded post, but i just want to understand my car as > completely as possible. Thank's in adavnce SAUL. > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 16 09:59:07 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: Did the Rabbit do it with you driving it---??? --"Runaway". References: <1.5.4.32.20030116023531.00678bc0@mail.compmore.net> Message-ID: <3E26C8BB.15414330@opei.org> <<>> Wow, what luck. My Jetta TD had POOR oil control from day one (when I bought it at 56,000 miles) at a quart in 750 miles. It lived that way 'til about 208,000 miles, when it would not idle (missed on a cylinder) properly. A compression test revealed just in spec compression on 3 cylinders and about 250 PSI on #4. So I pulled the pistons to do a re-ring and hone. I pulled #4 first, pushed it out while lying underneath the car. The top compression ring fell off as the piston came out, and half of it hit me in the face! It was broken exactly mid-way around its circumference. I figure at 56,000 miles it was broke too! But I never had a runaway problem, had LOADS of blow-by but also had the baffle in the head. The re-ringing lasted about 40,000 miles until oil consumption got to 1 qt. in 300 miles! --Nate Sandy Cameron wrote: > At 04:26 PM 1/15/03 -0800, you wrote: > >Mine had ONE broken ring as well---would you describe the car -----This one > had about 62000 Km on the odo. > >I have dealers say -never heard of it ! ---Capilano VW BC.-----and one > mechanic here doubting my word --- LOL.Scary with no brakes and going > downhill.----but for 300 dollars ???--hell I was laughing my head of ----- > > > >Thanks --Hagar. > > Mine is a 1987 Jetta turbo diesel. the original engine broke a ring in #4 > around 300,000km, and then the fun began. my son discovered it on a trip to > toronto and thought he had blown up the engine until he hauled it down with > the brakes, and then it was normal again. > > I didn't know about the broken ring until I took it out of the car, but I > was suspicious that would be the problem. I drove it 2 years in that > condition, with the "oil separator" until the "smoke-downs" became > embarassing and it got too hard to start in cold weather. > > That's when I found the rusty rabbit up the road for $250, which I later > found contained a Volks Canada remanufactured turbo diesel in like new > condition. > I'm still driving that engine in the jetta at 450,000km and runs perfect. No > oil consumption, starts at unbelievable low temperatures, and runs just fine > on canola oil (where can I buy that in 45 gal drums?) > > When I opened the old engine, it looked like the edge of the piston below > the precombustion chamber had been eroded away, right down to the ring. Not > sure if the ring was actually broken as I did not dismantle the short block, > Gave it to Dominique in Guelph and he posted the tear-down on his web page. > > http://kozmik.guelph.on.ca/gtdproject/autopsy.htm > > The runaway thing was a significant problem for a lot of old volks (pun > intended), and VW finally sold a baffle to fit under the valve cover of > engines with excessive blow-by, to prevent the oil from getting into the vent. > > Sandy > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 16 10:09:29 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvement? References: <20030115.213151.-1029495.0.teacher525@juno.com> Message-ID: <3E26CB29.CCB17898@opei.org> I do believe all TDs are supposed to have the Two-Speed radiator fan, relay and related wiring and thermosensor. If you have factory A/C, you may have it anyway. --Nate Milton Kaplan wrote: > Finally getting around to changing the partly clogged radiator in my > aircon Caddy. > > Since I now have a 1.6TD engine, it might be good to improve the cooling. > > It currently has the single 11 inch fan, radiator fins 12.25 x 21.5 x > 1.25 inches. > > Is there a thicker radiator that will fit like 2 inches? > > How about pulling off fan shroud and using two 10 inch electric fans? > > Thanks. > > ________________________________________________________________ > Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today > Only $9.95 per month! > Visit www.juno.com > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 16 10:19:10 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list References: <147.7f55ff9.2b57c215@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E26CD6E.78773E1B@opei.org> <<>> He has a '91 Eco. Hydraulic lifters--Self adjusting. --Nate From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 16 10:13:08 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvement? References: <20030115.213151.-1029495.0.teacher525@juno.com> <3E264E6E.1EB49153@ieee.org> Message-ID: <3E26CC03.2B64123F@opei.org> <>> I've seen this set-up on the Eco Diesel, I believe. The first fan drives the second next to it w/ a little belt. It was done for noise reduction. That A-2 fan on "High" is quite loud! --Nate Roger Brown wrote: > Milton Kaplan wrote: > > > > Finally getting around to changing the partly clogged radiator in my > > aircon Caddy. > > > > Since I now have a 1.6TD engine, it might be good to improve the cooling. > > > > It currently has the single 11 inch fan, radiator fins 12.25 x 21.5 x > > 1.25 inches. > > > > Is there a thicker radiator that will fit like 2 inches? > > > > How about pulling off fan shroud and using two 10 inch electric fans? > > I had my brass/copper 2-row Modine rebuilt with a 3-row core: > http://4crawler.cruiserpages.com/VWpickup.shtml#Engine > also run an overdrive water pump pulley and will be adding an oil cooler. > > So far the first two have made a significant cooling improvement. > > I think there is a 2-fan shroud on some of the gas VWs. > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Thu Jan 16 10:26:27 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Fwd: [Vwdiesel] New to list] Message-ID: <3E26CF23.66613A5@opei.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- Somehow my response did not make it to the VW Diesel list. --Nate -- Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 09:35:09 -0500 From: Nate Wall To: AudiQuattro1205@aol.com Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] New to list References: <187.147e80c9.2b575b48@aol.com> First, welcome to the VW Diesel List Saul. You will not find more knowledgeable folks, ANYWHERE, when it comes to IDI (indirect injection) VW diesels. Any new-to-me VW diesel I would do the following: You can save substantially on labor. First purchase the Robert Bentley repair manual. It can be ordered from their site on the net. I forget the URL. 1. Change the oil and filter. Use A DIESEL RATED OIL (CH). I use Shell Rotella 15W-40. In MA you might want to use something a little thinner, possibly a diesel synthetic (who here knows a good one?). Use an OEM filter, MANN or Bosch. 2. Change the timing belt (or find out when it was done). Must be done every 60,000 miles. If it breaks, engine damage will occur. Valves will collide w/ the pistons. Special tools (about $200) are needed to accurately set the injection and valve timings. Setting belt tension correctly is crucial, but don't use that gauge thinngy mentioned in Bentley. Its useless, and very expensive. We on the list can tell you haw to properly tension it. 3. Do all the routine stuff, like change the coolant, brake fluid (flush the system), new air cleaner, lube the doors and latches. Check the tire pressure. Wash and wax it. vacuum it. Being clean and shinny will make driving funner! I never do the ATF in the fuel filter. I've heard mixed opinions about this. Do prime the filter w/ fuel, if possible. I do use a diesel additive (Power Service?) now, but for 9 years I did not and never had a problem. This are the big things, but I bet I missed something. AudiQuattro1205@aol.com wrote: > Hello all my name is Saul and i live in Southeastern MA. I recently > purchased a 1991 Ecodiesel. I understand that these cars are rather rare. I > bought the car because i have a 100 mile commute so MPG was very important in > my choice of car. It has 192,000 miles on it and seems to run very well. I > have heard that these engines are damn near bulletproof so i did not hesitate > in purschasing the car with all that milage on it. > Now i have never owned a diesel before so upkeep with this car is a whole > new world to me. I need to replace the fuel filter and i read that filling > the filter when changing it with ATF helps to lube the injector pump and to > also clean the injectors and pump,is this true sounds wacky to me. Also, I > was told it would not be a bad idea to put 2 stroke oil or even motor oil in > my fuel when i fill up, again is this for real??? > Is there any other maintenance issues that any of you could enlighten me > with it would be greatly appreciated.. The other thing is this i am new to > diesels,but i'm not new to turbo's. I have built and modified many > turbocharged gas engines, but never a diesel. Seeing as how my car came > equipped with a turbo the thought of modding it has crossed my mind many a > time. I would very much like to put an intercooler on it, from what I > understand intercooling a diesel has the same effect it has on a gas engine. > I also wouldn't mind turning up the boost some, but the part that gets me is > this a diesel runs by detonation which IS VERY BAD WITH A GAS ENGINE!!! I > have no idea how to tune a diesel engine, from what i gather you can pump all > the air you want into a diesel it wouldn't make much difference unless you > supply it with extra fuel. For tuning a gas engine i usually use a air/fuel > ratio gauge and for extreme applications i use an EGT meter, but with a > diesel i keep reading about looking at the smoke coming out of the tailpipe > as an indicator as to how rich or lean the engine is running, is this correct > for diesel tuning or is there a more precise method?? I am very excited to > be learing more about making a TD engine more powerful i enjoy learning new > things especially anything to do with cars. So any info that any of you can > give me would be greatly appreciated. > Lastly one of my VW friends was at Waterfest last year and he said that > there were some really well done and modded TDI's running around are any of > you on this list?? > Sorry, for the long winded post, but i just want to understand my car as > completely as possible. Thank's in adavnce SAUL. > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel -- From worb at finning.ca Thu Jan 16 07:32:10 2003 From: worb at finning.ca (worb@finning.ca) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Gassy diesel... Message-ID: A few years back I sold my '82 Caddy to my father in law. Not a good thing to do cause I've been forced to watch his string of bad luck and mishaps (dirty dogs in the cab, break ins, fender benders, hit and run on the rear quarter panel, etc, etc) on a car that used to be in nearly mint condition . Kinda painful for a car that you love. Anyways... The last thing to happen broke my heart. Some dipsh!t gas jockey put gas in the tank!!!! He didn't realize until the engine stopped on him further down the road. He claims he was able to baby it back home and then siphon the tank out. My feel and from what I've seen happen to others in the past is that this engine is done (a transplanted '88 NA). He doesn't think so. I'm trying to encourage him to go after the gas station for an engine. What does everyone feel the consequences would be of no action (to the engine)? TIA, Walter From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 11:02:34 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvements Message-ID: <3f.16a7578f.2b58319a@aol.com> The only thing I know of that will fit is to get the fan off of a TD Jetta. It's a 3 blade, higher pitch with a 2 speed motor. It will bolt on whereas anything else will be a fairly major fabrication. Be sure the flaps are in good shape so none of the airflow doesn't just circulate around the shroud. I've never seen or heard from anyone on this list where a stock radiator, in good condition was anything less than sufficient even in much hotter climates than the Northwest. Loren From largiader at worldlynx.net Thu Jan 16 11:24:48 2003 From: largiader at worldlynx.net (Anton Largiader) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Gassy diesel... References: Message-ID: <001501c2bd7b$cd45dc90$e2eb5fcf@AntonLargiader> Well, he should go after the gas station if there was a reasonable way that the pump jockey should have known that it was a diesel vehicle. Such as a sticker by the filler, the fact that he pulled up to a diesel pump that was nowhere near a gas pump, whatever. Even then, the attendant should have at least asked "regular or premium?" As far as the engine goes, I can't say. This happened to our TDI with no ill effects whatsoever, and the car was driven for about 125 miles on probably 80% gasoline. But the TDI has a lower compression than the old IDIs, and this may have saved it. Still, I would definitely not assume that the engine is toast. As far as how to pursue it (go after the station first and have them make it right, or start by refilling with diesel and seeing what gives) that's up to you. If he doesn't need it for a few days, you could tell the station that you're sending it to the dealer on their nickel (which is what I did). But this depends on the circumstances... in our case it was pretty clear that there was carelessness on the attendant's part because the receipt was from a different pump than she was filled from, which wasn't all that near the pump she pulled up to. And of course she was never asked "regular or premium?" ============================================== Anton Largiader, Chester Springs, PA '94 K75RT, '93 R100GSPD, '94 R1100RSA, '98 Jetta TDI '00 XR400R anton at largiader.com http://largiader.com ============================================== ----- Original Message ----- From: >... Some dipsh!t gas > jockey put gas in the tank!!!! He didn't realize until the engine stopped > on him further down the road. He claims he was able to baby it back home > and then siphon the tank out. My feel and from what I've seen happen to > others in the past is that this engine is done (a transplanted '88 NA). He > doesn't think so. I'm trying to encourage him to go after the gas station > for an engine. > What does everyone feel the consequences would be of no action (to the > engine)? From r.c.brown at ieee.org Thu Jan 16 08:44:32 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] A1 Radiator improvements References: <007301c2bd43$0afff400$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> Message-ID: <3E26E170.EF948773@ieee.org> Scott Kair wrote: > > >>I think there is a 2-fan shroud on some of the gas VWs.<< > > TD Quantums have an electrically driven 2-fan shroud, but in stock trim > it's a good bit too wide to fit an A1 radiator. We measured the unit from > my destroyed Quantum for possible retrofitting to my Caddy and found that > we'd have to fabricate a shroud. Since cooling wasn't that great an issue, > we didn't bother. > Late A2 Jettas, or at least my 92 ECO, have an unusual 2-fan > arrangement. Rather than two fans governed by by separate thermo-electric > and a/c switches, as the B-bodies were, the fans are mechanically linked by > a belt. I don't know whether that shroud can be fitted to an A1 radiator, > or whether a complete radiator/shroud could be grafted to an A1. > It might be worth looking through a junkyard, though, as it seems to > stand to reason that a less efficient gasoline engine would put out more > waste heat and therefore benefit from twin fans. I seem to recall a thread > about the ECO's link belt occasionally failing, but in my experience the > Quantum arrangement worked quite well. One fan was connected to the > radiator thermoswitch and the other came on when the a/c button was on. I > drove mine in traffic on some pretty hot days and it rarely nudged past the > halfway mark on the gauge. If gas Jettas had a similar arrangement that can > be adapted to an A1, it might be worth looking into. There was some discussion on the Scirocco list about using a 2-fan unit and hooking up something like the above. Of course the fan really only comes into play at low speeds to pull air through the radiator when the vehicle speed won't move enough through on its own. Gas engines put out a lot of heat idling and puttering around town. A diesel is sort of the opposite, little heat a low power and lots of heat at high power. My single fan will always cool the engine right down in traffic on the hottest day, so I think its got enough air flow. From h_hagar at prcn.org Thu Jan 16 12:20:33 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] VW diesel cars RUNNING away --WHY?. Message-ID: <001e01c2bd9d$2b31e300$21ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have rabbits so first a joke --LOL--In Denmark ca 1940 + In English clas= s --the first words I learned -- LOL was : "SEE ME HOP AND SEE ME RUN ----IT IS FUN FUN FUN" and there was a picture = of a--yes you guessed it --LOL a rabbit. Sandy Cameron's story was immensely interesting to me ---and the autopsy on= the RUNAWAY engine story was well done ----hope we get more like that. Pistons helping valves to close ???? ----I think Sandys son is the way to g= et the reason ----why. When mine took of like a berserk jackrabbit ---did I= turn the key of ?? ---bet your life ---and I threw out the window --as so= n as the car stopped---and sat there waiting for it to explode. -- Thank you Sandy Cameron. Hagar. (Yes I have two Email addresses) -- From crusader at nccw.net Thu Jan 16 17:47:03 2003 From: crusader at nccw.net (crusader) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030106191347.0208b5b0@king.cts.com> Message-ID: <001401c2bdb1$46916530$747e58cf@w2kclient> Chris and everone else, Thanks again for all you help. The proportioning valve was leaking air. Got a new one from vwparts.com for $68. she's running great now. Regards, Kerry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Boyer" To: "crusader" ; Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:37 PM Subject: Continuing brake Problems > Hi, Kerry....if you're bleeding the brakes and every time you get air, that > means > there is air leaking into the system. Unless your proportioning valve has a > leak, I doubt it's defective. > > Before you spend your money on a proportioning valve, replace that rear wheel > cylinder which bubbles upon bleeding, and give it another shot. I think I > spent > about $6-$12 for a wheel cylinder last time I bought one. > > If your mechanic is sure it's the proportioning valve, let him buy it and > put it in. > Pay him if it works. Ask him to explain how a bad proportioning valve causes > air bubbles in the fluid. Please send me his response; I'd love to know. > > If you're damned sold on replacing the proportioning valve, and don't want to > spend the money for a factory unit, get one from Wilwood. You'll need to > adjust > it, but you can manually adjust the pressure differential between the front > and rear > brakes. Make sure the proportioning valve you are replacing doesn't have a > delay valve built in. The delay valve keeps the front brakes from applying > until > the rears have about 150psi line pressure. The 150psi gives the rear > brakes a chance > to overcome return spring pressure so they apply at the same time as the > front brakes, > which do not have return spring pressure to overcome. > > > Let me know what you find if you get a chance. I think you're overlooking > something > really simple, but deceptive. You'll get it. > > Regards, > > Chris Boyer > > > At 07:13 PM 1/6/03 -0500, crusader wrote: > >After much frustration, I broke down and took to car to my local mechanic > >who also believes that it is the proportioning valve. He also added that it > >is pricey. > > > >Does anyone know of a used one for sale? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Kerry > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Chris Boyer" > >To: "Nate Wall" ; "crusader" > >Cc: > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:11 PM > >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > > > > > I had a bad rear wheel cylinder on an A1 and it just wouldn't bleed. It > > > didn't leak > > > in the pressure mode, but it sucked in air when it retracted. I bled the > > > damn thing > > > for hours until I talked to a buddy who suggested replacing it. Cured it. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Chris Boyer > > > San Diego > > > > > > At 10:59 AM 12/30/02 -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > > > >What type of VW? The A-2 Jettas have a load-sensing proportioning valve > > > >next to the rear axle beam that sometimes leaks fluid. > > > > > > > >--Nate > > > > > > > >crusader wrote: > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > -- > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > Thanks to all of you who responded to my question last week about my > > > > failing master cylinder. I replaced it and bled all 4 wheels. However, > > > > on the rear driver side, the line bubbled and foamed no matter how much > >I > > > > bled. After noticing that I had good "pedal" I gave up. > > > > > > > > > > Now, four days later, my pedal started to sink and after two more days > > > > I was back to pumping 3-4 times before I got any braking action. The > > > > difference now, is that after I pump it up, the pedal does not sink as > >before. > > > > > > > > > > I just bled that back wheel again and I continue to get foaming fluid > > > > out of the wheel cylinder. Can the wheel cylinder be the problem? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > > > > > Kerry > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > >vwdiesel mailing list > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > From forrestking at juno.com Thu Jan 16 19:59:04 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Gassy diesel... Message-ID: <20030116.200742.1180.3.forrestking@juno.com> He may be hesitant to go after the gas station... especially if , despite his story, he was the 'gas jockey'... :) On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 07:32:10 -0800 worb@finning.ca writes: > A few years back I sold my '82 Caddy to my father in law. Not a good > thing > to do cause I've been forced to watch his string of bad luck and > mishaps > (dirty dogs in the cab, break ins, fender benders, hit and run on > the rear > quarter panel, etc, etc) on a car that used to be in nearly mint > condition . > Kinda painful for a car that you love. > Anyways... The last thing to happen broke my heart. Some dipsh!t > gas > jockey put gas in the tank!!!! He didn't realize until the engine > stopped > on him further down the road. He claims he was able to baby it back > home > and then siphon the tank out. My feel and from what I've seen > happen to > others in the past is that this engine is done (a transplanted '88 > NA). He > doesn't think so. I'm trying to encourage him to go after the gas > station > for an engine. > What does everyone feel the consequences would be of no action (to > the > engine)? > > TIA, > Walter > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Thu Jan 16 21:42:08 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fw: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Attention Turbo Diesel Nuts! Message-ID: <010601c2bdd2$11973820$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> Cross posted from the Audi-VW diesels mailing list. Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI -----Original Message----- From: Eric S To: Audi-VW-Diesels@yahoogroups.com Cc: vwpickups@neubayern.net Date: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:58 PM Subject: [Audi-VW-Diesels] Attention Turbo Diesel Nuts! >Well...I've NEVER seen one of these kits....I've seen the BAE stuff....this stuff is cool too. Its a Arkay Turbo kit for the NA 1.6 VW diesel...check it out...its for sale: > >http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=662850 > >-- >Eric >Northglenn, CO > >81 Scirocco S (*TDI* swap and complete restoration in holding pattern) >81 Rabbit Truck LX Diesel (Waiting for BAE Turbo Install) >83 Scirocco Wolfsburg >91 Cabriolet (2.0 Crossflow 8v swap and mechanical rebuild in progress) From turbobrick at hotmail.com Fri Jan 17 02:51:17 2003 From: turbobrick at hotmail.com (Jeff Rakus) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) Message-ID: Hi, I would like everyones thoughts on diesel fuel quality. From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Thu Jan 16 21:11:52 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) References: Message-ID: The TDI is designed for 55 cetane. If you're in TX or CA you're getting a minimum of 48 cetane. But the rest of the US only gets a minimum of 40 cetane. You'll never see #1 Diesel at the fuel pump. #1 is Kerosene and Jet fuel. Winter fuel is 32 fuel with anti-gel additives in it. I suggest Stanadyne Performance formula year round. It has a cetane boost and anti-gel additives. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Rakus" To: Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) > > Hi, > > I would like everyones thoughts on diesel fuel quality. > From what I have read we have poor quality diesel > here in North America. Rarely do I see any Cetane > ratings on pumps and I had thought that refiners were > supposed to switch to a winter blend ( diesel #1?) in > the colder months. Does anyone have thoughts about > anti-gel additives? What about Rotella DFA? What cetane > rating fuel should our engines have to run optimally? > TIA > Jeff From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 22:14:29 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) Message-ID: <1d9.21e52a.2b58cf15@aol.com> One thing I noticed, I can only verify a single stop though, has to do with performance and mileage. Dad's TD pickup primarily is used on the farm so it often has "farm fuel" in it. I used it for a trip one time and after filling it at an AM/PM (Arco) in Aberdeen, WA, I had MUCH less power and lower mileage. I didn't notice a loss in power with the Passat on our trip but I did get the worst mileage he's ever gotten on it, about 40mpg mostly. He usually gets around 48 unless it's not running right. Scott might have an interesting fact or two to present. He happens to have actually tested a couple Cetane ratings. :) :( Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Thu Jan 16 22:37:03 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) Message-ID: <1d2.21db4b.2b58d45f@aol.com> > You'll never see #1 Diesel at the fuel pump. #1 is Kerosene and Jet fuel. > Winter fuel is 32 fuel with anti-gel additives in it. > Actually one COLD winter (96?) we were traveling through Utah and I woke up, asked where we were and when my wife told me I said I must've REALLY been tired, I slept through filling up. She then told me we didn't stop for fuel. Uh oh! We were half way between nowhere and nothing! It was about -30+F. No time at all without heat and we'd be done for and not much traffic around midnight. Most of the trucks were frozen up on the side of the roads or huddled together at rest or truck stops, to keep warm. We slowed down to about 45mph to conserve fuel and traveled along until we saw a "blue" sign on the interstate for fuel. We took the off ramp, not a light in sight and no indication to turn right or left! We picked a direction and a couple miles or so later came across a station that was still open. I couldn't believe it! He had 80/20 or #1 straight up on tap! A little gas, a little #1 and some #2 and we were back on our way! Has anybody found a source for the Hexyl Ethyl nitrate or whatever that was? I tried a few places and got mostly ignored. :P Loren From dieseltdi at earthlink.net Thu Jan 16 20:24:32 2003 From: dieseltdi at earthlink.net (dieseltdi@earthlink.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:15 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Interesting item on eBayMotors web site item#2400513608: 1981 Volkswagen VW diesel Rabbit Pickup campe Message-ID: <200301170424.h0H4OWjE031185@mx11.sjc.ebay.com> I saw this item for sale at eBayMotors, If I hadn't just bought a second truck, I would seriously consider this. Looks like a really good conversion. Hayden Title of item: 1981 Volkswagen VW diesel Rabbit Pickup campe Seller: terronnie Starts: Jan-16-03 17:03:03 PST Ends: Jan-26-03 17:03:03 PST Price: Starts at $500.00 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400513608 Item Description: 1981 Volkswagen VW diesel Rabbit Pickup campe Vehicle Description This is a one of a kind Volkswagen diesel Rabbit Pickup, converted into a camper for two. We have been camping a long time and have decided to settle down. Excellent MPG is about 36 city & 45 highway. Our baby is completely self contained. It has LP gas 2.2 cubic ft Dometic refrigerator & two-burner stove with a small kitchen cupboard for dishes. It has table & sink with a small gray water holding tank. The back seat folds down to make a full size bed, which has been reupholstered last year. Clothes cupboard is above driving compartment. There is a large storage area under the bed. The 1.6 diesel engine runs very good. It has a 100,000 miles on this second engine, with 387,000 total mileage. Had a brake job and new starter in 2002. The Michelin Tires are in fair condition. We repainted the fiberglass camper body in June 2001. There is no AC, but we never needed it as we always drove to cooler weather. It has CD Player with very good speakers. For its ag! e, it is in very very good condition, it was babied all its life. I am the original owner, but I do want to be honest, it does need some syncro work done on the transmission and a new boot. This camper is driveable, we just got back from our last trip to Quebec, Prince Edward Island, and Nova Scotia. This camper is sold, as is condition. You pick up and provide transportation. Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com/ebaymotors From nwall at opei.org Fri Jan 17 08:20:56 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030106191347.0208b5b0@king.cts.com> <001401c2bdb1$46916530$747e58cf@w2kclient> Message-ID: <3E280338.2805BB07@opei.org> Is that the valve next to the axle beam on the A-2 Jetta? If so, I spent $150 or so at the dealer! Bummer! --Nate crusader wrote: > Chris and everone else, > > Thanks again for all you help. The proportioning valve was leaking air. > Got a new one from vwparts.com for $68. she's running great now. > > Regards, > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Boyer" > To: "crusader" ; > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Continuing brake Problems > > > Hi, Kerry....if you're bleeding the brakes and every time you get air, > that > > means > > there is air leaking into the system. Unless your proportioning valve has > a > > leak, I doubt it's defective. > > > > Before you spend your money on a proportioning valve, replace that rear > wheel > > cylinder which bubbles upon bleeding, and give it another shot. I think > I > > spent > > about $6-$12 for a wheel cylinder last time I bought one. > > > > If your mechanic is sure it's the proportioning valve, let him buy it and > > put it in. > > Pay him if it works. Ask him to explain how a bad proportioning valve > causes > > air bubbles in the fluid. Please send me his response; I'd love to know. > > > > If you're damned sold on replacing the proportioning valve, and don't want > to > > spend the money for a factory unit, get one from Wilwood. You'll need to > > adjust > > it, but you can manually adjust the pressure differential between the > front > > and rear > > brakes. Make sure the proportioning valve you are replacing doesn't have > a > > delay valve built in. The delay valve keeps the front brakes from > applying > > until > > the rears have about 150psi line pressure. The 150psi gives the rear > > brakes a chance > > to overcome return spring pressure so they apply at the same time as the > > front brakes, > > which do not have return spring pressure to overcome. > > > > > > Let me know what you find if you get a chance. I think you're overlooking > > something > > really simple, but deceptive. You'll get it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris Boyer > > > > > > At 07:13 PM 1/6/03 -0500, crusader wrote: > > >After much frustration, I broke down and took to car to my local mechanic > > >who also believes that it is the proportioning valve. He also added that > it > > >is pricey. > > > > > >Does anyone know of a used one for sale? > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Kerry > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Chris Boyer" > > >To: "Nate Wall" ; "crusader" > > >Cc: > > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:11 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > > > > > > > > I had a bad rear wheel cylinder on an A1 and it just wouldn't bleed. > It > > > > didn't leak > > > > in the pressure mode, but it sucked in air when it retracted. I bled > the > > > > damn thing > > > > for hours until I talked to a buddy who suggested replacing it. Cured > it. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Chris Boyer > > > > San Diego > > > > > > > > At 10:59 AM 12/30/02 -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > > > > >What type of VW? The A-2 Jettas have a load-sensing proportioning > valve > > > > >next to the rear axle beam that sometimes leaks fluid. > > > > > > > > > >--Nate > > > > > > > > > >crusader wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > Thanks to all of you who responded to my question last week about > my > > > > > failing master cylinder. I replaced it and bled all 4 wheels. > However, > > > > > on the rear driver side, the line bubbled and foamed no matter how > much > > >I > > > > > bled. After noticing that I had good "pedal" I gave up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, four days later, my pedal started to sink and after two more > days > > > > > I was back to pumping 3-4 times before I got any braking action. > The > > > > > difference now, is that after I pump it up, the pedal does not sink > as > > >before. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just bled that back wheel again and I continue to get foaming > fluid > > > > > out of the wheel cylinder. Can the wheel cylinder be the problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kerry > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Fri Jan 17 08:33:11 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030106191347.0208b5b0@king.cts.com> <001401c2bdb1$46916530$747e58cf@w2kclient> Message-ID: <3E280617.3E0BE463@opei.org> Thanks Kerry. I bookmarked this site. They have (A-2) blower motors for $97. I thought I'd be shelling out $250! -NAte crusader wrote: > Chris and everone else, > > Thanks again for all you help. The proportioning valve was leaking air. > Got a new one from vwparts.com for $68. she's running great now. > > Regards, > > Kerry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Boyer" > To: "crusader" ; > Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 10:37 PM > Subject: Continuing brake Problems > > > Hi, Kerry....if you're bleeding the brakes and every time you get air, > that > > means > > there is air leaking into the system. Unless your proportioning valve has > a > > leak, I doubt it's defective. > > > > Before you spend your money on a proportioning valve, replace that rear > wheel > > cylinder which bubbles upon bleeding, and give it another shot. I think > I > > spent > > about $6-$12 for a wheel cylinder last time I bought one. > > > > If your mechanic is sure it's the proportioning valve, let him buy it and > > put it in. > > Pay him if it works. Ask him to explain how a bad proportioning valve > causes > > air bubbles in the fluid. Please send me his response; I'd love to know. > > > > If you're damned sold on replacing the proportioning valve, and don't want > to > > spend the money for a factory unit, get one from Wilwood. You'll need to > > adjust > > it, but you can manually adjust the pressure differential between the > front > > and rear > > brakes. Make sure the proportioning valve you are replacing doesn't have > a > > delay valve built in. The delay valve keeps the front brakes from > applying > > until > > the rears have about 150psi line pressure. The 150psi gives the rear > > brakes a chance > > to overcome return spring pressure so they apply at the same time as the > > front brakes, > > which do not have return spring pressure to overcome. > > > > > > Let me know what you find if you get a chance. I think you're overlooking > > something > > really simple, but deceptive. You'll get it. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris Boyer > > > > > > At 07:13 PM 1/6/03 -0500, crusader wrote: > > >After much frustration, I broke down and took to car to my local mechanic > > >who also believes that it is the proportioning valve. He also added that > it > > >is pricey. > > > > > >Does anyone know of a used one for sale? > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >Kerry > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Chris Boyer" > > >To: "Nate Wall" ; "crusader" > > >Cc: > > >Sent: Monday, December 30, 2002 2:11 PM > > >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Continuing brake Problems > > > > > > > > > > I had a bad rear wheel cylinder on an A1 and it just wouldn't bleed. > It > > > > didn't leak > > > > in the pressure mode, but it sucked in air when it retracted. I bled > the > > > > damn thing > > > > for hours until I talked to a buddy who suggested replacing it. Cured > it. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Chris Boyer > > > > San Diego > > > > > > > > At 10:59 AM 12/30/02 -0500, Nate Wall wrote: > > > > >What type of VW? The A-2 Jettas have a load-sensing proportioning > valve > > > > >next to the rear axle beam that sometimes leaks fluid. > > > > > > > > > >--Nate > > > > > > > > > >crusader wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > > > > > > Thanks to all of you who responded to my question last week about > my > > > > > failing master cylinder. I replaced it and bled all 4 wheels. > However, > > > > > on the rear driver side, the line bubbled and foamed no matter how > much > > >I > > > > > bled. After noticing that I had good "pedal" I gave up. > > > > > > > > > > > > Now, four days later, my pedal started to sink and after two more > days > > > > > I was back to pumping 3-4 times before I got any braking action. > The > > > > > difference now, is that after I pump it up, the pedal does not sink > as > > >before. > > > > > > > > > > > > I just bled that back wheel again and I continue to get foaming > fluid > > > > > out of the wheel cylinder. Can the wheel cylinder be the problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again, > > > > > > > > > > > > Kerry > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > vwdiesel mailing list > > > > > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >vwdiesel mailing list > > >vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From nwall at opei.org Fri Jan 17 08:49:04 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) References: Message-ID: <3E2809D0.274438E6@opei.org> In all the 13 years I have had the Jetta, I never got a bad (water and/or dirty fuel) batch of fuel. I did get a tank once in South or North Carolina that made the engine run noisy as hell as I got up North in colder weather. I've also NEVER had a fuel gelling problem, no ever added any additives to prevent this. A couple years ago, I began using Power Service diesel additive. Before that, I did not use any additives. --Nate Jeff Rakus wrote: > Hi, > > I would like everyones thoughts on diesel fuel quality. > >From what I have read we have poor quality diesel > here in North America. Rarely do I see any Cetane > ratings on pumps and I had thought that refiners were > supposed to switch to a winter blend ( diesel #1?) in > the colder months. Does anyone have thoughts about > anti-gel additives? What about Rotella DFA? What cetane > rating fuel should our engines have to run optimally? > TIA > Jeff > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From greg4vwparts at hotmail.com Fri Jan 17 09:37:13 2003 From: greg4vwparts at hotmail.com (greg rich) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues Message-ID: Hi Guys I have a problem with my glow plug light, 1987 Jetta diesel (260k miles original), the light sometimes flashes, sometimes glows faintly, sometimes lights up bright as if cycling the glow plugs. I have drained the water separator, no difference. It usually happens after driving half and hour. I have removed the glow plug relay while the light is on and it still persists, what relay controls the water separator blinking? Or does anyone else have any suggestions? The car starts fine despite being -20C lately, I cannot complain, just annoyed by the light! Thanks, Greg _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup From nwall at opei.org Fri Jan 17 09:58:18 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues References: Message-ID: <3E281A0A.240D59D2@opei.org> I had something similar happen years ago. The glowplug light was erratic upon turning the key and then while driving, about how you describe. I followed the Bentley procedure and narrowed it down to either the glow plug relay or the temperature sensor. I did not know about aftermarket OEM relays at that point, and dealer prices for the relay were about $125 and for the temp sensor, about $20. So I first replaced the less expensive item, the temperature sensor. End of problem! Note that on my '85 the dealer said the temp guage sensor and the glow plug sensor were different. --Nate greg rich wrote: > Hi Guys > I have a problem with my glow plug light, 1987 Jetta diesel (260k miles > original), the light sometimes flashes, sometimes glows faintly, sometimes > lights up bright as if cycling the glow plugs. I have drained the water > separator, no difference. It usually happens after driving half and hour. I > have removed the glow plug relay while the light is on and it still > persists, what relay controls the water separator blinking? Or does anyone > else have any suggestions? The car starts fine despite being -20C lately, I > cannot complain, just annoyed by the light! > Thanks, Greg > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Fri Jan 17 09:04:53 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: Continuing brake Problems References: <004d01c2ae15$4105a370$8c7e58cf@w2kclient> <5.1.0.14.2.20021230111015.020839b0@king.cts.com> <5.1.0.14.2.20030106191347.0208b5b0@king.cts.com> <001401c2bdb1$46916530$747e58cf@w2kclient> <3E280617.3E0BE463@opei.org> Message-ID: And don't forget www.germanautoparts.com . Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nate Wall" To: "crusader" Cc: Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Re: Continuing brake Problems > Thanks Kerry. I bookmarked this site. They have (A-2) blower motors for $97. I > thought I'd be shelling out $250! > > -NAte > > crusader wrote: > > > Chris and everone else, > > > > Thanks again for all you help. The proportioning valve was leaking air. > > Got a new one from www.vwparts.com for $68. she's running great now. > > > > Regards, > > > > Kerry From val at swamps.roc.ny.us Fri Jan 17 10:35:37 2003 From: val at swamps.roc.ny.us (Val Christian) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues In-Reply-To: from "greg rich" at Jan 17, 2003 09:37:13 AM Message-ID: <200301171535.KAA20845@swamps.roc.ny.us> This may not be your problem...but I've had similar symptoms and found that the relay was cycling on while driving. You'll go through glow plugs real fast, if that happens. In the several instances I've seen, it's usually something like water leaking into the glow plug relay package. With A1s, there seemed to be more problems with the relays simply failing. Perhaps not that the relay was different, but rather manufacturing problems, or simply bad luck. You might be able to detect whether the glow plugs are infact coming on by noticing whether the inside dome light, or at night - headlights, dim when the glow lamp lights. I've also had a relay cycle the glow plugs without lighting the lamp. So the lamp and the energizing of the glow plugs are not necessarily coincident. My vote is to swap out the relay. Val > > Hi Guys > I have a problem with my glow plug light, 1987 Jetta diesel (260k miles > original), the light sometimes flashes, sometimes glows faintly, sometimes > lights up bright as if cycling the glow plugs. I have drained the water > separator, no difference. It usually happens after driving half and hour. I > have removed the glow plug relay while the light is on and it still > persists, what relay controls the water separator blinking? Or does anyone > else have any suggestions? The car starts fine despite being -20C lately, I > cannot complain, just annoyed by the light! > Thanks, Greg > > _________________________________________________________________ > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From nwall at opei.org Fri Jan 17 11:17:08 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues References: <200301171535.KAA20845@swamps.roc.ny.us> Message-ID: <3E282C84.F2E6F2B@opei.org> I've still got the original GP relay at 13 years (260,000 miles) and counting. Try removing the relay's case and cleaning up its contacts w/ fine sand paper. Also, for about $5, you can wire a 12V. LED directly to the glow plug bus (I used the #4 Glow plug terminal) and put the LED on the dash. Use an in-line fuse. That way, you'll know for sure when the plugs are energized. I also painted the top of the GP relay gold for easy ID, incase it sticks "ON". Then I'll just pull it out. --Nate Val Christian wrote: > This may not be your problem...but I've had similar symptoms and found > that the relay was cycling on while driving. You'll go through glow plugs > real fast, if that happens. In the several instances I've seen, it's > usually something like water leaking into the glow plug relay package. > > With A1s, there seemed to be more problems with the relays simply > failing. Perhaps not that the relay was different, but rather > manufacturing problems, or simply bad luck. > > You might be able to detect whether the glow plugs are infact coming > on by noticing whether the inside dome light, or at night - headlights, > dim when the glow lamp lights. I've also had a relay cycle the glow > plugs without lighting the lamp. So the lamp and the energizing of the > glow plugs are not necessarily coincident. > > My vote is to swap out the relay. > > Val > > > > > Hi Guys > > I have a problem with my glow plug light, 1987 Jetta diesel (260k miles > > original), the light sometimes flashes, sometimes glows faintly, sometimes > > lights up bright as if cycling the glow plugs. I have drained the water > > separator, no difference. It usually happens after driving half and hour. I > > have removed the glow plug relay while the light is on and it still > > persists, what relay controls the water separator blinking? Or does anyone > > else have any suggestions? The car starts fine despite being -20C lately, I > > cannot complain, just annoyed by the light! > > Thanks, Greg > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > The new MSN 8 is here: Try it free* for 2 months > > http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From kadm at pugetsound.net Fri Jan 17 08:16:28 2003 From: kadm at pugetsound.net (Dana Morphew) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] (no subject) References: <1d2.21db4b.2b58d45f@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E282C5C.60508@pugetsound.net> Now you're talkin'! I belive it's 2-ethylhexyl nitrate, and I'd love to know where we can buy it. Dana > Has anybody found a source for the Hexyl Ethyl nitrate or whatever > that was? I tried a few places and got mostly ignored. :P > Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Fri Jan 17 11:22:59 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues Message-ID: <114.1daaf5ba.2b5987e3@aol.com> You did drain the water separator, back by the RR wheel not just the drain on the filter? I had a LOT of people tell me that the only water separator was the filter when I was trying to find a new cap for mine. That includes the dealer who SHOULD have seen one by now! Cleaning grounds and main electrical connections helped mine a LOT. Stuff like the battery to body and engine connections on the ground. Alt. grounding strap connections. Alt to battery + connections and such. It still would blink on when the wipers would cycle on intermittent or glow when the A/C was on and the higher the fan was turned on. After my GP relay died and I replaced it the problem was completely gone. It did make me clean up some grounds that were causing voltage drop in the process though. :) Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Fri Jan 17 17:14:11 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] I found it! (2-ethylhexyl nitrate) Message-ID: <12b.20706033.2b59da33@aol.com> I'd hope it doesn't take much of it at the price! Maybe a group buy? :) Loren Click here: MISCELLANEOUS BYPRODUCT CHEMICALS FOR SALE From LBaird119 at aol.com Fri Jan 17 17:21:33 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Anybody in Chicago or Atlanta? Message-ID: <186.149a4672.2b59dbed@aol.com> I'm going to Dalton for a carpet "thing." I'll be held over in Chicago from 4:15 to 6:00 PM on Saturday but it's probably not worth running back through security. I'll be in a/the Holiday Inn in Dalton (I think). Everything but the air travel is set up by our buying group so I'm a little in the dark until I get there, as to what all is going on while I'm there. On the return it looks like I'll be twiddling my thumbs in Atlanta airport from about 12:30 to 3:30 PM on Tuesday afternoon. With another 2 hours in Chicago from 4:45PM (Local times). If anybody feels like getting together, it'd sure beat sitting in the airport with nothing to do! :) Loren From r.c.brown at ieee.org Fri Jan 17 14:55:41 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] I found it! (2-ethylhexyl nitrate) References: <12b.20706033.2b59da33@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E2889ED.3EDCF8FB@ieee.org> LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > I'd hope it doesn't take much of it at the price! Maybe a group buy? :) > Loren > > Click here: > MISCELLANEOUS BYPRODUCT CHEMICALS FOR SALE I ran across that posting as well this morning. Lots of good links if you seach on Google for it regarding use as a cetane booster. I wonder if the Stanadyne additives use it. From Travelbike at aol.com Fri Jan 17 21:28:55 2003 From: Travelbike at aol.com (Travelbike@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Oil Breather kit ?? Message-ID: <19d.f75a968.2b5a15e7@aol.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Noticed that blowby from the valve cover port goes to the air cleaner bo taking with it oil. When I open it, I sometime see oil nad It seems it makes the car a bit smokey esp on full throttle. Is it possible to use an oil breather kit or box to separate oil from the blowby before it enters the air box ?? CAn you use say an oil breather kit from VW type I engines or can you just build one from scratch ? IF so any homebrew designs out there ??? Again thanks J Gaerlan. From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Fri Jan 17 22:39:03 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] I found it! (2-ethylhexyl nitrate) References: <12b.20706033.2b59da33@aol.com> <1042858343.12777.16.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: I bought a case of 12 bottles of Stanadyne Performance for $60 including tax and shipping from www.dieselpage.com . That's only $1.25 per tank. };o) Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary, Orlando" To: Cc: "vwdiesel" Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] I found it! (2-ethylhexyl nitrate) > I just looked up Stanadyne's MSDS on their performance formula. > > http://www.stanadyne.com/dsg/showfile.asp?id=798 > > If I read the sheet correctly, this stuff comprises 15-40% of their > product. Call it 25%. For a four ounce dose, that is one ounce of this > stuff per tank or so. > > Let's see... this stuff sells for $55/gal($3070 for a 55gal drum, their > 'sell' price) One gallon will do 128 tanks of fuel. Each ounce(tank) > would cost $0.43. But you're missing out on lubricity and the rest. > > If you buy your Stanadyne from this place(provided as an example only!) > It will only cost you $1 a tank, plus you get all of the other benny's. > > http://www.fueladditivesonline.com/additive_products.htm#injector > > Just some math to ponder... > > -Gary, Orlando From gilbeej at yahoo.com Sat Jan 18 08:03:22 2003 From: gilbeej at yahoo.com (E. J. Gilbert) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Blues Message-ID: <20030118160322.86792.qmail@web13405.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Gang, I am asking for some diagnostic assistance. I recently changed out a leakin= g fuel injection pump with a used pump which had recently been resealed and= calibrated. The engine is running worse than it ever has with low power, = excessive vibration, and high fuel useage. The "new" injection pump is noi= sy. Perhaps something in my technique is the cause of the problems. I am = going to list my actions step by step to see if anyone has an insight into = the engine problems. 1=2E Removed the valve cover and top belt guard. 2=2E Set engine on top dead center with the valves pointing up on the firs= t cylinder and the cam slot parallel to the head. Inserted fabricated meta= l bar in the slot. 3=2E Removed injector lines, fuel supply and return lines and stop solinoi= d wire. 4=2E Loosened the nut holding the cam gear in place 5=2E Loosened the belt tension device and slipped the toothed belt off of = the cam gear and the injector pump gear. 6=2E Loosened the nut holding the injector gear in place and removed the in= jector pump gear. 7=2E Loosened the nuts holding the injector pump in place and removed the = injector pump. 8=2E Installed the new injector pump paying attention to lining up the sea= m of the injection pump with the groove on the injection pump mount. 9=2E Installed the injector pump gear and rotated the gear until the slot = in the tooth almost lined up with the mark on the pump mount. (was slightly= to the left of the mark-CCW direction) 10. Installed a 1/4" drive, 7/16" craftsman socket in the pump locking hol= e=2E 11. Slipped the timing belt back on the cam gear and the injection pump gea= r and activated the belt tensioner to hold the belt snug. Slot in the cam = gear still a little CCW from mark on mount. Removed locking socket. 12. Finished tensioning the belt and checked that still on TDC. Tightened= the cam gear. Slot in cam gear still a little to CCW of timing mark on mo= unt. 13. Removed bar holding cam in position. Installed dial indicator device = and rotated engine CCW until reading was constant (about 1/4 revolution). = Zeroed the dial indicator and rotated engine CW until TDC. Dial indicator = was reading about 0.75. Rotated pump CCW until reading was 0.94. Tightene= d pump mounting bolts. Rotated engine CCW and then CW to verify that the r= eading was repeatable. Slot in tooth still a little to CCW from timing mark= on pump mount. 14. Filled injector pump with diesel, attached all the lines, covers,etc. 15. Engine fired up after bleeding. Idle is smooth, but low on power and = suddenly increases speed after reaching a certain RPM in first, second, and= third gears. Very slow to drop back to lower RPM's. Can anyone spot a flaw in the technique used or something else for me to ch= eck before I condemn the pump? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, E=2EJ. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now From gilbeej at yahoo.com Sat Jan 18 08:03:01 2003 From: gilbeej at yahoo.com (E. J. Gilbert) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Blues Message-ID: <20030118160301.32293.qmail@web13402.mail.yahoo.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi Gang, I am asking for some diagnostic assistance. I recently changed out a leakin= g fuel injection pump with a used pump which had recently been resealed and= calibrated. The engine is running worse than it ever has with low power, = excessive vibration, and high fuel useage. The "new" injection pump is noi= sy. Perhaps something in my technique is the cause of the problems. I am = going to list my actions step by step to see if anyone has an insight into = the engine problems. 1=2E Removed the valve cover and top belt guard. 2=2E Set engine on top dead center with the valves pointing up on the firs= t cylinder and the cam slot parallel to the head. Inserted fabricated meta= l bar in the slot. 3=2E Removed injector lines, fuel supply and return lines and stop solinoi= d wire. 4=2E Loosened the nut holding the cam gear in place 5=2E Loosened the belt tension device and slipped the toothed belt off of = the cam gear and the injector pump gear. 6=2E Loosened the nut holding the injector gear in place and removed the in= jector pump gear. 7=2E Loosened the nuts holding the injector pump in place and removed the = injector pump. 8=2E Installed the new injector pump paying attention to lining up the sea= m of the injection pump with the groove on the injection pump mount. 9=2E Installed the injector pump gear and rotated the gear until the slot = in the tooth almost lined up with the mark on the pump mount. (was slightly= to the left of the mark-CCW direction) 10. Installed a 1/4" drive, 7/16" craftsman socket in the pump locking hol= e=2E 11. Slipped the timing belt back on the cam gear and the injection pump gea= r and activated the belt tensioner to hold the belt snug. Slot in the cam = gear still a little CCW from mark on mount. Removed locking socket. 12. Finished tensioning the belt and checked that still on TDC. Tightened= the cam gear. Slot in cam gear still a little to CCW of timing mark on mo= unt. 13. Removed bar holding cam in position. Installed dial indicator device = and rotated engine CCW until reading was constant (about 1/4 revolution). = Zeroed the dial indicator and rotated engine CW until TDC. Dial indicator = was reading about 0.75. Rotated pump CCW until reading was 0.94. Tightene= d pump mounting bolts. Rotated engine CCW and then CW to verify that the r= eading was repeatable. Slot in tooth still a little to CCW from timing mark= on pump mount. 14. Filled injector pump with diesel, attached all the lines, covers,etc. 15. Engine fired up after bleeding. Idle is smooth, but low on power and = suddenly increases speed after reaching a certain RPM in first, second, and= third gears. Very slow to drop back to lower RPM's. Can anyone spot a flaw in the technique used or something else for me to ch= eck before I condemn the pump? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, E=2EJ. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now From bjornar.huse at mimer.no Sat Jan 18 18:48:49 2003 From: bjornar.huse at mimer.no (Bjornar Huse) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 2.5 V6 turbo pressure In-Reply-To: <20030118170057.14672.90126.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: Have run a few test on my A6, seems the constant pressure is at about 1 bar, but it happily jumps to 1,3-1,5 when punching the accelerator. I guess the electronics can't adjust the pressure through the wastegate soon enough. How much constant pressure can I run without (much) danger for the engine? Bj?rnar Huse Heimdal 25 6020 ?lesund Norway Tel +47 41 555 411 Fax +47 95 56 73 91 1999 Audi A6 2.5tdi Quattro Avant 1982 Range Rover V8 1947 Studebaker M-15 From h_hagar at prcn.org Sat Jan 18 18:22:41 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump blues . Message-ID: <003701c2bf61$e28e3a60$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Tell the forum --Model of VW -----type of pump ----and something will shake out ----EH Gary Orlando ?----Hagar. -- From h_hagar at prcn.org Sat Jan 18 18:32:55 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. Message-ID: <005901c2bf63$133800a0$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] ----- Original Message ----- From: H .Hagar To: vwdiesel-request@vwfans.com Sent: January 18, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: H .Hagar To: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com Sent: January 18, 2003 5:57 PM Subject: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. When it comes to FUEL ----I can finally contribute to the forum ---WOW. Cetane number --important -----NO standard enforcement in North America ---= -bottom line -???? 40 . not good ----WHY? not higher ----money ----in = the pockets of floggers. Lubricity ? ----very very important for "Rotary" injection pumps----take my= word and check for yourself ---mad truckers all over the place when Oilcom= panies changed to low sulphur---fuel. EU standard higher by LAW. DO not = trust Shell or ESSO to tell you the truth --------- # 1 Diesel or # 2 Diese= l ???? ---- its not like potatoes ---- our diesels in general ---- best to = use # 2 -----Extreme low temt areas may have to use # 1 at times. More on= how to adjust your own fuel next time -----and how to test it (the simple= way) for lubrication quality ----have fun LOL ---Hagar -- From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Sat Jan 18 20:44:49 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. References: <005901c2bf63$133800a0$1da8fea9@prcn.org> Message-ID: Texas and California have 48 cetane minimum fuel statewide. }:o) Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "H .Hagar" To: Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2003 8:32 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. When it comes to FUEL ----I can finally contribute to the forum ---WOW. Cetane number --important -----NO standard enforcement in North America ----bottom line -???? 40 . not good ----WHY? not higher ----money ----in the pockets of floggers. Lubricity ? ----very very important for "Rotary" injection pumps----take my word and check for yourself ---mad truckers all over the place when Oilcompanies changed to low sulphur---fuel. EU standard higher by LAW. DO not trust Shell or ESSO to tell you the truth --------- # 1 Diesel or # 2 Diesel ???? ---- its not like potatoes ---- our diesels in general ---- best to use # 2 -----Extreme low temt areas may have to use # 1 at times. More on how to adjust your own fuel next time -----and how to test it (the simple way) for lubrication quality ----have fun LOL ---Hagar _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From ecodiesel1 at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 01:51:03 2003 From: ecodiesel1 at hotmail.com (Fernando Fiore) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues Message-ID: My erratic glow plug light while driving was also diagnosed and concluded to be the temp sender for the glow plug circuit. As already stated before, make sure you are checking/changing the right one. Fernando Fiore, "Nando" 84 VW Rabbit Diesel "GTI" 1/4= 21.249 @ 60.95mph 81 Audi 5000S Diesel 1/4= N/A _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From scott3491 at insightbb.com Sun Jan 19 07:00:54 2003 From: scott3491 at insightbb.com (Scott Kair) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] I found it.... Message-ID: <003c01c2bfbc$ea4d8160$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> >>Texas and California have 48 cetane minimum fuel statewide. }:o)<< A couple of questions naturally arise- what effect does the higher minimum rating have on price, and how did the Tx. legislature/ regulating commission instate the higher requirement? Area prices here in central Illinois seem to be hovering around $1.55- $1.65 at present. BTW, the "minimum 40 cetane" pump stickers started disappearing here about a year ago. Not really surprising since under our recently-departed governor everything but his bowling trophies was for sale. Scott Kair From kadm at pugetsound.net Sun Jan 19 05:33:44 2003 From: kadm at pugetsound.net (Dana Morphew) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. References: <005901c2bf63$133800a0$1da8fea9@prcn.org> Message-ID: <3E2AA938.6030605@pugetsound.net> Here's a quote I found at http://www.pipeline.to/biodiesel/lubricity.html : "...the processes that remove sulfur and aromatics also remove components (polyaromatics and nitrogen compounds) that help provide the fuel with its lubricating properties (lubricity). As a result, the new low-sulfur and CARB (California Air Resources Board) petroleum diesel fuels tend to lack sufficient lubricity. However, these fuels blended with as little as 0.4% Biodiesel can meet or exceed the minimum lubricity required by the US military and a proposed new ASTM standard for petroleum diesel fuel. That's right, with a less than 0.5% mix of Biodiesel, a low-sulfur or CARB fuel can become a premium diesel blend, relative to lubricity." H .Hagar wrote: > Cetane number --important -----NO standard enforcement in North America ----bottom line -???? 40 . not good ----WHY? not higher ----money ----in the pockets of floggers. > Lubricity ? ----very very important for "Rotary" injection pumps----take my word and check for yourself ---mad truckers all over the place when Oilcompanies changed to low sulphur---fuel. EU standard higher by LAW. DO not trust Shell or ESSO to tell you the truth --------- # 1 Diesel or # 2 Diesel ???? ---- its not like potatoes ---- our diesels in general ---- best to use # 2 -----Extreme low temt areas may have to use # 1 at times. More on how to adjust your own fuel next time -----and how to test it (the simple way) for lubrication quality ----have fun LOL ---Hagar From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 19 09:46:39 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI power Message-ID: <20030119154639.GB26027@cybershamanix.com> My brother has been complaining about lack of power in his Jetta TDI, and it sounds to me (from 1000 miles away) that it's got something wrong. He says he's got to keep the pedal to the metal an awful lot, isn't happy with acceleration, car slows down on hills when cruising at 80, etc. I thought the TDI's were supposed to be pretty peppy -- I'd think you could cruise at 100 with no problem, other than tickets, I mean. What are TDI owners getting for top end? -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Sun Jan 19 11:16:51 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI power Message-ID: <006801c2bfd6$30e33b60$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> > My brother has been complaining about lack of power in his Jetta TDI, and it >sounds to me (from 1000 miles away) that it's got something wrong. He says he's >got to keep the pedal to the metal an awful lot, isn't happy with acceleration, >car slows down on hills when cruising at 80, etc. I thought the TDI's were >supposed to be pretty peppy -- I'd think you could cruise at 100 with no >problem, other than tickets, I mean. > What are TDI owners getting for top end? So far I have had my '98 Jetta TDI up to ~100 mph and it was still pulling, but a little voice inside my head told me to knock it off because jail time was not cool. :-(( Never had a problem with lack of power, and even less so since chipping it. 2 1/2" SS cat-back exhaust doesn't hurt, either. :-)) It does sound like there is something wrong. More details - what year, how many miles, what kind of engine oil is he using? Is it blowing smoke? What is the fuel consumption like? Any mods? There are a couple of likely problems, some very easy to fix, others not. Of course THE source for TDI info is Fred's discussion forum - http://forums.tdiclub.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi Running a little slow right now due to hardware problems but it is supposed to be back up to normal soon. Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI From h_hagar at prcn.org Sun Jan 19 08:21:54 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Diesel Fuel --input from Hagar.(info LOL) Message-ID: <001801c2bfd8$0241c0e0$a2ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Am I a mechanic ? --hell no ---am I interested in helping someone avoid all= the stupid mistakes --I made --YES. 70 years young + ---- The mad professor type ---the kid that the physics te= acher let loose in the laboratory --while the rest was measuring the gravit= y of water. For now lets concentrate on highway diesel --- # 1 and # 2 .(there are many= other types). If you have a home storage tank (I have) Testing and modifying is fairly s= imple.Some years ago I got a horrible bit of diesel from Shell Bulk plant.B= ill say this was # 2 Diesel.---IT was NOT.That prompted me to go around tow= n and get a jerrycan of diesel from Shell-Esso PetroCanada-Shevron-- etc.co= nclusion ??? DO NOT TRUST OILCOMPANIES !.One day Shevron was the best ---an= other time maybe Shell.Before filling my 1000 litre tank I take samples.(ta= nk on empty now)---How to describe the spread from best to worst ????... So= rt of Vaseline to Varsol LOL. Hagar. -- From charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org Sun Jan 19 11:38:55 2003 From: charlie at elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Blues Message-ID: <200301191638.h0JGct404676@elektro.cmhnet.org> Your procedure sounds good for replacing and timing the pump. I'm going from memory from 10 years ago, so my figures may not be exactly right. Some of the injection pumps called for an earlier timing. What was it, yellow spot pumps were (?) 1.15mm? I don't remember exactly. Your symptoms sound like retarded timing. I'd try the 1.15 timing and see what happens. The sudden increase in power at some raised RPM is happening when the internal pump advance mechanism kicks in. Since this pump is 'rebuilt', this may have been 'adjusted'. I'm not recommending you get into this unless you are very careful with your performance measurements after any change ... but here's the deal on the advance in the pump. The pump advance is actuated by raised internal fuel pressure in the pump as RPMs go up. There is an advance piston, with a spring and shims, under the 1" cover on the lower front of the pump. Changing the shims even a little bit significantly affects when the internal injection advance kicks in. Let us know what happens when you advance the static timing a bit. - Charlie Charlie Smith charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org 614-471-1418 http://www.elektro.com/~charlie Columbus Ohio USA http://www.elektro.com/~audi photos & technical info 95 S6 Quattro - 24 PSI, RS2 6 speed, and other features 97 Dodge Ram - 35 PSI, 4x4 w/Cummins turbo diesel Earlier, E. J. Gilbert wrote: > > Hi Gang, > > I am asking for some diagnostic assistance. I recently changed out a leaking fuel injection pump with a used pump which had recently been resealed and calibrated. The engine is running worse than it ever has with low power, excessive vibration, and high fuel useage. The "new" injection pump is noisy. Perhaps something in my technique is the cause of the problems. I am going to list my actions step by step to see if anyone has an insight into the engine problems. > > 1. Removed the valve cover and top belt guard. > > 2. Set engine on top dead center with the valves pointing up on the first cylinder and the cam slot parallel to the head. Inserted fabricated metal bar in the slot. > > 3. Removed injector lines, fuel supply and return lines and stop solinoid wire. > > 4. Loosened the nut holding the cam gear in place > > 5. Loosened the belt tension device and slipped the toothed belt off of the cam gear and the injector pump gear. > > 6. Loosened the nut holding the injector gear in place and removed the injector pump gear. > > 7. Loosened the nuts holding the injector pump in place and removed the injector pump. > > 8. Installed the new injector pump paying attention to lining up the seam of the injection pump with the groove on the injection pump mount. > > 9. Installed the injector pump gear and rotated the gear until the slot in the tooth almost lined up with the mark on the pump mount. (was slightly to the left of the mark-CCW direction) > > 10. Installed a 1/4" drive, 7/16" craftsman socket in the pump locking hole. > > 11. Slipped the timing belt back on the cam gear and the injection pump gear and activated the belt tensioner to hold the belt snug. Slot in the cam gear still a little CCW from mark on mount. Removed locking socket. > > 12. Finished tensioning the belt and checked that still on TDC. Tightened the cam gear. Slot in cam gear still a little to CCW of timing mark on mount. > > 13. Removed bar holding cam in position. Installed dial indicator device and rotated engine CCW until reading was constant (about 1/4 revolution). Zeroed the dial indicator and rotated engine CW until TDC. Dial indicator was reading about 0.75. Rotated pump CCW until reading was 0.94. Tightened pump mounting bolts. Rotated engine CCW and then CW to verify that the reading was repeatable. Slot in tooth still a little to CCW from timing mark on pump mount. > > 14. Filled injector pump with diesel, attached all the lines, covers,etc. > > 15. Engine fired up after bleeding. Idle is smooth, but low on power and suddenly increases speed after reaching a certain RPM in first, second, and third gears. Very slow to drop back to lower RPM's. > > Can anyone spot a flaw in the technique used or something else for me to check before I condemn the pump? Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > Thanks, > > E.J. From r.c.brown at ieee.org Sun Jan 19 08:58:10 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Glow plug light issues References: Message-ID: <3E2AD922.D6BF2FD5@ieee.org> Fernando Fiore wrote: > > My erratic glow plug light while driving was also diagnosed and concluded to > be the temp sender for the glow plug circuit. As already stated before, > make sure you are checking/changing the right one. Yes, that's been my experience as well, at least with certain relay designs that seem very sensitive to out of range temperature sensor inputs. Also if the sensor check out OK, you still can have wiring problems or as I had a broken connector that let the T input terminal fall away from the relay terminal. From kadm at pugetsound.net Sun Jan 19 09:05:21 2003 From: kadm at pugetsound.net (Dana Morphew) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection Pump Blues References: <200301191638.h0JGct404676@elektro.cmhnet.org> Message-ID: <3E2ADAD1.6080308@pugetsound.net> Charlie Smith wrote: > Some of the injection pumps called for an earlier timing. What was it, > yellow spot pumps were (?) 1.15mm? I don't remember exactly. That's the 107A pump. Dana > > Your symptoms sound like retarded timing. I'd try the 1.15 timing and > see what happens. > - Charlie From bjornar.huse at mimer.no Sun Jan 19 18:44:20 2003 From: bjornar.huse at mimer.no (Bjornar Huse) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TDI power In-Reply-To: <20030119170025.27692.30012.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: With regards to the limp Jetta; a common and well-known problem is the mass airflow sensor. If the engine pulls sort of OK on lower revs but less on high revs, the MAF is shot. Our local dealer always have several of these in stock since they crap out all the time. Some are claiming they have aftermarket sensors that last longer, but I haven't tried these. Been there - done that - mine was shot when I got the A6 at around 100.000 kms. Replaced with another original Bosch. USD 500. Ouch. Bj?rnar Huse Heimdal 25 6020 ?lesund Norway Tel +47 41 555 411 Fax +47 95 56 73 91 1999 Audi A6 2.5tdi Quattro Avant 1982 Range Rover V8 1947 Studebaker M-15 From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Sun Jan 19 13:08:19 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: TDI power Message-ID: <001401c2bfe5$c0ca61e0$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> > >With regards to the limp Jetta; a common and well-known problem is the mass >airflow sensor. If the engine pulls sort of OK on lower revs but less on >high revs, the MAF is shot. Our local dealer always have several of these in >stock since they crap out all the time. Some are claiming they have >aftermarket sensors that last longer, but I haven't tried these. > >Been there - done that - mine was shot when I got the A6 at around 100.000 >kms. Replaced with another original Bosch. USD 500. Ouch. > Of course, our list owner sells them at a considerable discount........$190 shipped..... http://www.vwfans.com/parts/maf.html ......but I wouldn't condemn the MAF just yet until hearing more symptoms. We don't even know if it is an A4 or A3 Jetta, the A3 Pierburg MAFs are near-bulletproof when compared to the Bosch units the A4s use. Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI From h_hagar at prcn.org Sun Jan 19 10:06:52 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Deaming of my very own DIESEL car . Message-ID: <001301c2bfe5$f8824c60$9accb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] In my WET dreams I win the lottery and ,get a top of the line GOLF 30 000 = Dollars can.In my NIGHTMARES --I have this line of towtruck following me ar= ound all day ---60 dollars can a shot. After finding this forum ----my nig= htmares are disappearing for some reason.---Hagar. -- From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 13:05:57 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] I found it.... References: <003c01c2bfbc$ea4d8160$6401a8c0@insightbb.com> Message-ID: Diesel here in Tyler TX (east texas) is between $1.45 and $1.50 per gallon. The 48 cetane minimum is a State Mandate. The 40 cetane minimum is a Federal Mandate. I thought everybody knew Texas and CA played by their own rules? };-p Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Kair" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 7:00 AM Subject: [Vwdiesel] I found it.... > >>Texas and California have 48 cetane minimum fuel statewide. }:o)<< > > A couple of questions naturally arise- what effect does the higher > minimum rating have on price, and how did the Tx. legislature/ regulating > commission instate the higher requirement? > Area prices here in central Illinois seem to be hovering around $1.55- > $1.65 at present. > BTW, the "minimum 40 cetane" pump stickers started disappearing here > about a year ago. Not really surprising since under our recently-departed > governor everything but his bowling trophies was for sale. > Scott Kair > > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 13:08:18 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. References: <005901c2bf63$133800a0$1da8fea9@prcn.org> <001001c2bfc7$89a6c3c0$7accb5d0@prcn.org> Message-ID: It's enforced by the usual government regulations over diesel refineries. But of course you'll never know what cetane you're getting unless you have the fuel professionally analyzed. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "H .Hagar" To: "TexasTDI" Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 8:13 AM Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. > Thank you .----If ----"Cetane 48" is MINIMUM by law ''how is it > enforced?"----Are there stickers on pump ?---and what about # 1 or # 2 > diesel ? ----I suspect it is another ---volontary ---thing. Hagar. > Original Message ----- > From: "TexasTDI" > To: "H .Hagar" > Cc: > Sent: January 18, 2003 6:44 PM > Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Fw: I found IT ---LOL long time ago. > > > > Texas and California have 48 cetane minimum fuel statewide. }:o) > > > > Chris Thornton From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Sun Jan 19 13:09:55 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI power References: <20030119154639.GB26027@cybershamanix.com> Message-ID: Failing MAF. Clogged intake and/or EGR. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harmon Seaver" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI power > My brother has been complaining about lack of power in his Jetta TDI, and it > sounds to me (from 1000 miles away) that it's got something wrong. He says he's > got to keep the pedal to the metal an awful lot, isn't happy with acceleration, > car slows down on hills when cruising at 80, etc. I thought the TDI's were > supposed to be pretty peppy -- I'd think you could cruise at 100 with no > problem, other than tickets, I mean. > What are TDI owners getting for top end? > > -- > Harmon Seaver > CyberShamanix > http://www.cybershamanix.com > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Sun Jan 19 13:38:04 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI power In-Reply-To: <006801c2bfd6$30e33b60$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> References: <006801c2bfd6$30e33b60$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> Message-ID: <20030119193804.GC26052@cybershamanix.com> On Sun, Jan 19, 2003 at 11:16:51AM -0500, Lee Hillsgrove wrote: > It does sound like there is something wrong. More details - what year, how > many miles, what kind of engine oil is he using? Is it blowing smoke? What > is the fuel consumption like? Any mods? I think it's a 99, and it had 107500 miles on it when he bought it this Summer. I'm pretty sure he's running synoil -- no smoke, no mods, and said he was getting good milage (like 48-50 IIRC ) but lousy power. Of course, since he didn't buy it new, he has no real comparison, and was just assuming that was all the power the car was supposed to have. I would think with that many miles, a new set of injectors would be a good idea, also check for the clogged intake manifold people have talked about here. The MAF maybe as well. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From h_hagar at prcn.org Sun Jan 19 13:44:13 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Origin of Rabbits ? --- Message-ID: <003101c2c006$274ba1c0$13ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] (it is raining out there) --- When I was a boy in the poorhouse in Copenh= agen ----in Berlin Herr. Alois Wienersnitselgruber ---was doodling on a pie= ce of paper --muttering to himself ,that he Adolf (the greatest designer of= all time)--could do better than Henry.So he called in Dr. Porsche --to des= ign an engine. The rest you know----The beetle LOL. That was about 1938 ---now 2003 ---my wheels --are a clone of VW Germany.(= Great design). In 1944 plus minus ---General Rommel came down the road in his 4X4 VW and s= topped next to me ---he stood up and looked around with a binocular ---and = waved his arm a lot ----a little later the Army came and planted millions o= f landmines.Two of my pals got killed by the mines on the 04May 1945 --war = ended 05May 1945. If it is good music ---I don't care who composed it---figure the rest.My cr= eampuff Rabbit ---the one I am trying to get on the road ? 1980 1.5Litre NA= diesel --AzuresBlau metallic---95 000 Kliks since new----WOW.Am broke due = to revenue collections agency (bunch of Swinehunds)---so I have to try to m= ake one out of 3. Hagar. PS: and with the help of the forum ---by GOD I shall succeed. -- From h_hagar at prcn.org Sun Jan 19 15:20:01 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump colordots ????. Message-ID: <000e01c2c011$a513a3e0$a7ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Rainy Sunday so I got out the paintbrush and the varsol bucket ------cleaning old pumps xxx--107A.----Tonight in my nightmares ---it will be polkadots all over the place ! LOL Old Volks Polka .LOL I need help again ----does anyone knows why I got yellow dots and green dots on pumps of the same part number ??? ---Thanks Hagar.---all Bosh pumps.--Thank you Lord. -- From engle31 at comcast.net Sun Jan 19 19:52:43 2003 From: engle31 at comcast.net (Paul Engle) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] broken bolts Message-ID: <010701c2c01e$3e1c7740$0200a8c0@paul> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I need some assistance. I broke the two bolts that hold the coolant housing= on the side of the head by the oil sender. They are still sticking out abo= ut 1/4 inch more or less. I ran out of day light so tomorrow I'll try a prp= pane torch and good set of vice grips. Any other suggestions? The car keps spraying coolant somewhere around that same area. I replaced a= ll the holes in that area and the heater core(was leaking). Same result, wh= en the car heats up it blows coolant off somewhere. I pull the metal tube f= rom the water pump to see if I had any pin holes. None that I can see.New h= oses, new clamps, what's next Thermostat? Help please!!!! From forrestking at juno.com Sun Jan 19 18:53:48 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] broken bolts Message-ID: <20030119.185348.1176.1.forrestking@juno.com> spray them down with some penetrant and cut a slot in the stud so that you can use a flat head screwdriver to unscrew them. On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:52:43 -0500 Paul Engle writes: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I need some assistance. I broke the two bolts that hold the coolant > housing on the side of the head by the oil sender. They are still > sticking out about 1/4 inch more or less. I ran out of day light so > tomorrow I'll try a prppane torch and good set of vice grips. Any > other suggestions? > > The car keps spraying coolant somewhere around that same area. I > replaced all the holes in that area and the heater core(was > leaking). Same result, when the car heats up it blows coolant off > somewhere. I pull the metal tube from the water pump to see if I had > any pin holes. None that I can see.New hoses, new clamps, what's > next Thermostat? > > Help please!!!! > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From flub at adelphia.net Sun Jan 19 16:19:40 2003 From: flub at adelphia.net (Bradley Flubacher) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] broken bolts References: <20030119.185348.1176.1.forrestking@juno.com> Message-ID: <3E2B166C.6050401@adelphia.net> This is a great idea. I would also just heat the living heck out of the area. Pay closer attention to the aluminum around the bolt. Also, give the bolt's a sharp tap while they're very hot. Brad Forrest L King wrote: >spray them down with some penetrant and cut a slot in the stud so that >you can use a flat head screwdriver to unscrew them. > > >On Sun, 19 Jan 2003 19:52:43 -0500 Paul Engle >writes: > > >>This is a multi-part message in MIME format. >>-- >>[ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] >>I need some assistance. I broke the two bolts that hold the coolant >>housing on the side of the head by the oil sender. They are still >>sticking out about 1/4 inch more or less. I ran out of day light so >>tomorrow I'll try a prppane torch and good set of vice grips. Any >>other suggestions? >> >>The car keps spraying coolant somewhere around that same area. I >>replaced all the holes in that area and the heater core(was >>leaking). Same result, when the car heats up it blows coolant off >>somewhere. I pull the metal tube from the water pump to see if I had >>any pin holes. None that I can see.New hoses, new clamps, what's >>next Thermostat? >> >>Help please!!!! >>_______________________________________________ >>vwdiesel mailing list >>vwdiesel@vwfans.com >>http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel >> >> >> >> > >________________________________________________________________ >Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today >Only $9.95 per month! >Visit www.juno.com >_______________________________________________ >vwdiesel mailing list >vwdiesel@vwfans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > From engle31 at comcast.net Sun Jan 19 21:53:21 2003 From: engle31 at comcast.net (Paul Engle) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Coolant leak and broken bolts Message-ID: <001901c2c02f$1860fb00$0200a8c0@paul> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Yeah it's the style with the heater valve. I replaced it back in October wh= en I got the car cause it dripped. I got one from a car at the junkyard. No= t drips but this past friday all heck let loose. Should I look for another = replacement? What about the thermostat? If it was stuck would it cause this= to spray somewhere? I'm gonna go buy a good pai of vice grips in the morning, any advice as to = which style to buy? Thanks in advance, Paul From h_hagar at prcn.org Mon Jan 20 06:29:40 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Is forum working good ?. Message-ID: <001201c2c091$239a4960$32ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Bet your sweet ass---fellows---- I am broke --NOT a mechanic --70 + years= young --stuck in the sticks-(BUSH) --no dealers ---- Rural route --NO str= eetcars here LOL. But still mobile due to this forum. Gary Orlando thanks = for your --FAST response to my question --about Injection pump. -----for yo= u who wonder about this Thread ---look up around Dec 29 2002. and 05 Jan 2= 003. -- From dieseltdi at earthlink.net Mon Jan 20 09:54:56 2003 From: dieseltdi at earthlink.net (dieseltdi@earthlink.net) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump colordots ????. In-Reply-To: <1043074488.15424.46.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: on 1/20/03 8:54 AM, Gary, Orlando at gbangs@cfl.rr.com wrote: > Well, > As for the Yellow dot pump, the yellow dot should have faded away twenty > years ago! > > Many salvage yards will put various and sundry yellow markings on parts. > Green? Beats me. > > -Gary > > > I have one in my truck right now that has red painted dots all over it. Interestingly enough, it WAS originally a 107A pump but at some point it was rebuilt. New numbers were stamped OVER the original numbers and the the 107A pump was turned into a 107AD! Anyway I have it set at .95 and it seems to run great. Hayden -- Visit my homepage at http://home.earthlink.net/~dieseltdi 2002 Jetta Wagon GLS TDI, Upsolute Powerbox 98 Jetta TDI Wetterauer chipset, Dual Fuel Propane system 98 Jetta TDI, Speed Tuning Chipset (daughter's car) 87 Scirocco 16v (son's car, gas :^P) 81 VW Rabbit Pickup (Caddy, Diesel of course, awaiting a TD engine transplant) And many, many water cooled and aircooled VW cars now departed or sold. From weasel1 at sympatico.ca Mon Jan 20 12:34:22 2003 From: weasel1 at sympatico.ca (weasel) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Origin of Rabbits ? --- References: <003101c2c006$274ba1c0$13ccb5d0@prcn.org> Message-ID: <002901c2c0aa$2be75770$a1baacce@derek> I thought that rabbits came from a mommy and a daddy rabbit ... :D ----- Original Message ----- From: "H .Hagar" To: Sent: Sunday, January 19, 2003 4:44 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Origin of Rabbits ? --- This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] (it is raining out there) --- When I was a boy in the poorhouse in Copenhagen ----in Berlin Herr. Alois Wienersnitselgruber ---was doodling on a piece of paper --muttering to himself ,that he Adolf (the greatest designer of all time)--could do better than Henry.So he called in Dr. Porsche --to design an engine. The rest you know----The beetle LOL. That was about 1938 ---now 2003 ---my wheels --are a clone of VW Germany.(Great design). In 1944 plus minus ---General Rommel came down the road in his 4X4 VW and stopped next to me ---he stood up and looked around with a binocular ---and waved his arm a lot ----a little later the Army came and planted millions of landmines.Two of my pals got killed by the mines on the 04May 1945 --war ended 05May 1945. If it is good music ---I don't care who composed it---figure the rest.My creampuff Rabbit ---the one I am trying to get on the road ? 1980 1.5Litre NA diesel --AzuresBlau metallic---95 000 Kliks since new----WOW.Am broke due to revenue collections agency (bunch of Swinehunds)---so I have to try to make one out of 3. Hagar. PS: and with the help of the forum ---by GOD I shall succeed. -- _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Mon Jan 20 12:58:55 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Going to buy References: <000e01c2c011$a513a3e0$a7ccb5d0@prcn.org> <1043074488.15424.46.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: <3E2C38DF.4050801@suscom-maine.net> My wife just totalled our 91 Jetta diesel. She and all who were in the other car are fine. So now am shopping. What is the best price for a loaded new Jettta TDI wagon? Anyone on the list recently buy one? I am looking at A/C, cruise control minimum with a decent stereo system. I will upgrade it myself, but it is nice to have the speakers already installed. My dreams of the old jetta getting to 300k are by the board now. It did make it to 220k, which is 120k better than any gas car I owned. Plus a lot cheaper to maintain and operate. Bill T From forrestking at juno.com Mon Jan 20 12:38:26 2003 From: forrestking at juno.com (Forrest L King) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Going to buy Message-ID: <20030120.123826.2160.1.forrestking@juno.com> I have always heard 500 above invoice is as good as you will get at a VW dealer - On Mon, 20 Jan 2003 12:58:55 -0500 Bill Truesdell writes: > My wife just totalled our 91 Jetta diesel. She and all who were in > the > other car are fine. > > So now am shopping. > > What is the best price for a loaded new Jettta TDI wagon? Anyone on > the > list recently buy one? > > I am looking at A/C, cruise control minimum with a decent stereo > system. > I will upgrade it myself, but it is nice to have the speakers > already > installed. > > My dreams of the old jetta getting to 300k are by the board now. It > did > make it to 220k, which is 120k better than any gas car I owned. Plus > a > lot cheaper to maintain and operate. > > Bill T > > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From danew at cybersol.com Mon Jan 20 14:39:36 2003 From: danew at cybersol.com (Holly) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] a couple of questions Message-ID: <001201c2c0bb$ab85df90$18184dc6@KittyKat13> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hi all, My first question is. Does anyone know how to get brake bleader valves o= pen on old VWs open without snapping them off. I in the postion where I ha= ve to replace a brake line and then bleed the system. In the past I have = had very little luck getting the old bleeders open with out twisting them o= ff and then I replace the calipers and brake cylinders. Second question. I have a engine and transaxle that I want to switch = to a different car. The car it's going into was a 5 speed and the one I wo= uld be putting in there is a 4 speed. What needs to be done to make that s= witch. Thanks Dave -- From leslieahern at hotmail.com Mon Jan 20 15:16:10 2003 From: leslieahern at hotmail.com (Leslie Ahern) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list and question Message-ID: Hi. Great list! I have an '81 VW rabbit pickup diesel and i love it. I need to change the timing belt but I can't get the crank pulley bolts out. They are stuck in there. Rusted maybe?? The bolts are 6mm hex and I have already stripped two of them. I'm also working outside here in Massachusetts and it's about 20F!! Any suggestions?? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus From r.c.brown at ieee.org Mon Jan 20 12:57:37 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list and question References: Message-ID: <3E2C62C1.2A284251@ieee.org> Leslie Ahern wrote: > > Hi. Great list! I have an '81 VW rabbit pickup diesel and i love it. > I need to change the timing belt but I can't get the crank pulley bolts out. > They are stuck in there. Rusted maybe?? The bolts are 6mm hex and I have > already stripped two of them. I'm also working outside here in > Massachusetts and it's about 20F!! Any suggestions?? Most likely the bolts have 6mm triple square sockets, not hex or torx, they are different and not interchangeable. Also, I don't think you need to remove the pulley to change the timing belt, but I may be wrong. From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Mon Jan 20 16:57:26 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Might buy References: <000e01c2c011$a513a3e0$a7ccb5d0@prcn.org> <1043074488.15424.46.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: <3E2C70C6.1080700@suscom-maine.net> I have a line on a 2000 GTS TDI, loaded for 14,500. Any major problems with the 2000 jetta? Price is well in line with blue book and it carries a 25k miles warranty. Plus it saves me about 8-10k. Bill T From matt_lisa at sprynet.com Mon Jan 20 15:07:53 2003 From: matt_lisa at sprynet.com (Matt_Lisa) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list and question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <000001c2c0d0$6274d670$0100a8c0@MATT> I had the exact same problem with my rabbit. The bolts strip very easily. I had to drill the head off of one of them in order to remove it when I removed the timing belt last time. Once the head of the bolt is drilled off and removed, there should be a little bit of the threads still sticking out of the crank gear (once the pulley is removed). Once I got the heads off, I just unscrewed the threads. Good luck! Matt http://matt_lisa.home.sprynet.com/ -----Original Message----- From: vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-admin@vwfans.com] On Behalf Of Leslie Ahern Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 1:16 PM To: vwdiesel@vwfans.com Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list and question Hi. Great list! I have an '81 VW rabbit pickup diesel and i love it. I need to change the timing belt but I can't get the crank pulley bolts out. They are stuck in there. Rusted maybe?? The bolts are 6mm hex and I have already stripped two of them. I'm also working outside here in Massachusetts and it's about 20F!! Any suggestions?? _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus _______________________________________________ vwdiesel mailing list vwdiesel@vwfans.com http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Mon Jan 20 16:19:48 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Might buy References: <000e01c2c011$a513a3e0$a7ccb5d0@prcn.org> <1043074488.15424.46.camel@gary.home.5045> <3E2C70C6.1080700@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: No more than any other TDI. MAF's are known to fail. Intakes and EGR's are known to clog. Just make sure it has all maintenance records. Especially concerning the timing belt. I bought my 2000 Golf TDI used with 45k miles back in March 2002. Paid $14,300 plus TT&L. 10 months and 30k miles later, only problems so far are a bad MAF and airbag light has come on. Chris Thornton 1991 VW Jetta GL 2 Door 1.6D - 234k miles 2000 VW Golf GLS 1.9TDI 130hp/229ftlbs - 75k miles 1998 VW Passat GLS 1.8T -- FOR SALE Amsoil Synthetic Lubricants Dealer #1098500 http://www.amsoil.com http://texastdi.com/6/ubb.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Truesdell" To: "vwdiesel" Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: [Vwdiesel] Might buy > I have a line on a 2000 GTS TDI, loaded for 14,500. > Any major problems with the 2000 jetta? > Price is well in line with blue book and it carries a 25k miles warranty. > Plus it saves me about 8-10k. > Bill T From h_hagar at prcn.org Mon Jan 20 14:54:48 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] injection pump info 1982 and 1980 NA. Message-ID: <001001c2c0d8$49356460$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Cleaned a bunch of old pumps Sunday --- mostly yellow 107A --the one I rep= laced 05 Jan 2003 on the 1982 1.6L NA was a 107AG.. Was leaking like a si= eve 300 000 kliks ---.I said belt was sneaking towards RAD ? ---wrong = -- towards RH fender. ---IS the shaftbearing a BUSHING ?? there is a lot of sideplay w= hen wiggling.Sure beats my mekano set for fun LOL.--A real challenge -- Why= so much talk ? about a lousy pump ? I was quoted 5000 Dollars Can from dea= ler for a replacement. Capilano Volks in BC. Checked to find stroke and bore of pumps -----80+ Thou Inch about for stro= ke and Piston is a two step affair --0.4 inch major and 0.3 + on minor. --= RIGHT ? --LOL Hagar. -- From engle31 at comcast.net Mon Jan 20 18:44:56 2003 From: engle31 at comcast.net (Paul Engle) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Broken bolts fixed Message-ID: <002d01c2c0dd$f0336280$0200a8c0@paul> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Hey, I braved the 20 degree cold today and worked on the car. I used a comb= ination of advice from you guys that responded. I first spray the heck out = of the bolts with penatrating spray. While that was sitting I ran to the st= ore and bought a GOOD pair of Vice Grips and some new bolts. When I got bac= k I got out the propane torch. I gave the end of the broken bolts a wack wi= th the hammer then heated things up. Clamped on the vice grips and WooHoo o= ut came the bolts. The wax trick was gonna be my next try if it didn't alre= ady come out. Thanks to all that replied, Paul in PA From scameron at compmore.net Mon Jan 20 19:03:11 2003 From: scameron at compmore.net (Sandy Cameron) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list and question Message-ID: <1.5.4.32.20030121000311.00662e18@mail.compmore.net> I believe you have to remove the pulley (not the sprocket) to get the lower belt shroud off, as it surrounds the sprocket. Sandy At 12:57 PM 1/20/03 -0800, you wrote: >Most likely the bolts have 6mm triple square sockets, not hex or torx, they are different and not interchangeable. Also, I >don't think you need to remove the pulley to change the timing belt, but I may be wrong. >_______________________________________________ >vwdiesel mailing list >vwdiesel@vwfans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > From r.c.brown at ieee.org Mon Jan 20 18:31:07 2003 From: r.c.brown at ieee.org (Roger Brown) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Re: [vwpickups] a couple of questions References: <001201c2c0bb$ab85df90$18184dc6@KittyKat13> <000e01c2c0ed$fad15480$9600000a@alltel.net> Message-ID: <3E2CB0EB.97B7BA5E@ieee.org> > Use a six point box end wrench. Squirt it with a little penetrating oil, like Kroil. Wait a little while to let the penetration work. Then using a small hammer tap > on the end of the wrench. It may take several taps, but don't get aggressive and bash it. Something like Kroil works every time. I use a flare wrench on mine, basically a 6 point box wrench with one side notched out to fit around the brake lines (so they work for those as well). I keep a set of those and only use them on brake lines. From teacher525 at juno.com Mon Jan 20 19:26:05 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Radiator Update and Sensor Leak Message-ID: <20030120.192649.-858261.1.teacher525@juno.com> From teacher525 at juno.com Mon Jan 20 19:43:54 2003 From: teacher525 at juno.com (Milton Kaplan) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Radiator and Sensors Message-ID: <20030120.194358.-858261.2.teacher525@juno.com> I decided to just install new radiator and stock fan and shroud in my 81 Caddy. Not a difficult install but mechanical fingers handy to replace nuts on bottom brackets. When the sensor was scewed into the new radiator it went all the way in. I was expecting pipe threads. Is a leak possible? While the battery was out and fan shroud off, it is easier to replace a dying starter. Did it. Also the temp sensor at upper engine block, although tight, seems to have a slight leak at block. How to fix? Many thanks. ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Mon Jan 20 23:02:23 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Going to buy Message-ID: <00be01c2c101$e86d4b00$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> >My wife just totalled our 91 Jetta diesel. She and all who were in the >other car are fine. Glad to hear that all made it out of the accident fine. The vulture in me wants to know if there are any salvagable parts left? I know others are thinking the same! :-)) Good luck in your hunt for a TDI, if you haven't driven one yet you'll have a hard time wiping the grin off your face when you take one out for a test drive! Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Mon Jan 20 23:39:27 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Might buy Message-ID: <00cf01c2c107$1628ce20$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> >I have a line on a 2000 GTS TDI, loaded for 14,500. >Any major problems with the 2000 jetta? They do have some quirks, but let's face it, they all do. They are able to be overcome, though. Power window regulators are problematic but VW has announced that they will repair them for free with an upgraded replacement, even back to '96 or so vintage, I'm not sure what the exact years covered are. This is not restricted to TDI versions. The EGR system combined with the crankcase vent conspire to clog the intake manifold with sludgy goo. Once it has been cleaned, you can alter the duty cycle of the EGR valve to a bare minimum via software or disable it altogether with hard modifications if you so chose, and install a CCV separator to eliminate the oil vapor which coats the intake tracts and intercooler. Problem solved. If the intake is gooed up, the anti-shudder valve can stick shut, causing a no-start. Not really a problem as long as you are aware of it, and if your intake is clean you won't have any problem to start with. The VNT style turbos used on this family of engine are somewhat more fragile and can more easily be harmed, especially at high altitude and/or in conjunction with a performance chip which raises boost pressure. As long as you are aware of the shortcomings and respect them, you should have no problems. Most of the people experiencing turbo failures are chipped or otherwise modded and live at higher altitudes. Even this can be worked around if you chose to go after more power. If it's just used for daily driver duty, you can consider it pretty much a non-issue. Synthetic oil is, IMHO, a must. One of the best is Mobil Delvac 1 5W40, which costs about $20 a gallon, in cases of 4 gallons. It is not available everywhere, but can be mail ordered if necessary. There are other good oils availble, but that's what I use because I can pick it up at a distributor about an hour's drive from my house, by the airport in Manchester. On the plus side, you can run 10K drain intervals with no problem. You might find one with an old-style relay 109. It is a close approximation to the load-reduction relay on an A2. If it fails, the car will die on the spot and will have no idiot lights showing. It's easy to replace and pretty cheap, too. Mass air flow sensors are a weak point. As I had mentioned in a previous post, our list owner sells them at a pretty good discount. Not much you can do to get around that problem, it seems to be a design issue. Gassers have the same problem, it's not diesel-specific. Some have adapted the earlier style sensors with good results but it requires a little tinkering with signal levels. Some of the fasteners used are torque-to-yield. There have been reports of engines falling out when the motor mount bolts were re-used and failed. Something to keep in mind when doing maintenance! The A4s mount the engine differently than earlier chassis, it hangs from a "pendulum" mount. A computer program called Vag-Com should be considered a necessary tool for the do-it-yourselfer. I know of one person in Richmond, ME with a copy should you need assistance, but at $200 it's a screaming deal. You'll need a laptop, too. I guess the glovebox door hinges and cupholders are kinda cheesy and break easily. Not TDI-specific, again. Rear disk brakes wear out abnormally quickly, at least with the stock pads. Aftermarkets should take care of that. That's all I can think of off the top of my head. You can use this list to check out prospective purchases. Hope I didn't scare you away! Of course, the best source of info is Fred's TDI forums, and this is where I have learned most of what I relate. I own a '98 which is a different chassis and uses a slightly different variation of the TDI. It's in some ways less sophisticated but more reliable. Isn't that always the way? Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI P.S. I've heard it's best to stay away from the Morong dealerships...... I got mine at Seacoast in Portsmouth and was treated well. If you'd like, E-mail me for the salesman's name I dealt with, he owns a Golf TDI and is an enthusiast! From malexand at inreach.com Mon Jan 20 20:53:58 2003 From: malexand at inreach.com (Michael Alexander) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Alternator Problems In-Reply-To: <20030120170102.13213.25155.Mailman@www.audifans.com> Message-ID: <4.1.20030120203238.00a29b80@pop3.inreach.com> -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I have an 82 rabbit w A/C where the alternator died. Nobody in town had one in stock so I got a mail order from Parts Place. Appearance wise, the alternator looked like it had been rebuilt in someone's back yard. The original alt had the 3 pin plug and also a surge capacitor on it. The rebuilt alt had the 3 pin plug plus another spade 180? away from the plug. There were no threaded holes to attach the surge capacitor nearby. First question: What is this spade for? I installed the alt and fired up the rabbit. The red light glowed brightly while idling but went out when the motor was revved. I drove it around for about 5 minutes and the red light still glowed brightly at idle. Second question: Would bad grounds or battery connections cause this behavior? With the old alt, the voltage was about 12.4 at all engine speeds. The red light stayed on constantly. With the rebuilt alt, voltage was about 13.4 volts when the engine was revved and about 12.6 V at idle. Third question: Is there a source for bearings and brushes for rebuilding these alternators? TIA m alexander -- From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Tue Jan 21 11:25:30 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Going to buy References: <00be01c2c101$e86d4b00$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> Message-ID: <3E2D747A.1010601@suscom-maine.net> The insurance co has the car now, but I just put in a new alternator (Bosch - re manufactured). The car is at Seacoast Auto body in Brunswick, Maine. Michilene tires (two years old) but not much else. 220k miles and clutch going bad and probably rings starting that way. I figured I would be putting some money into it shortly, but the accident let me buy an new toy much earlier than expected. I did buy the 2000 TDI and will be picking it up today. Thanks, Lee for the excellent info on the TDI. I usually just skimmed over the TDI problems, so now will be paying closer attention. Did take it on a test drive last night. Diesels accelerate! It was fun showing my wife the difference between our old diesel and the TDI. I share your concern with Morong. I bought two vws from them but really did not want to go there again. I bought the 2000 from O'Connor in Augusta. They gave me a 2003 loaner and I will have the car today and will pay them either tomorrow or Thursday, when my CU check comes in. Amazing how much they trust you there and the quality of the loaner. Bill T Bill T Lee Hillsgrove wrote: > > >>My wife just totalled our 91 Jetta diesel. She and all who were in the >>other car are fine. >> >> > > > > Glad to hear that all made it out of the accident fine. > > The vulture in me wants to know if there are any salvagable parts left? I >know others are thinking the same! :-)) > > Good luck in your hunt for a TDI, if you haven't driven one yet you'll have >a hard time wiping the grin off your face when you take one out for a test >drive! > > Lee > Oo-v-oO > PP-ASEL > KB1GNI > >_______________________________________________ >vwdiesel mailing list >vwdiesel@vwfans.com >http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > > From hillsgrove at adelphia.net Tue Jan 21 21:43:23 2003 From: hillsgrove at adelphia.net (Lee Hillsgrove) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Going to buy Message-ID: <00db01c2c1c0$095f0920$23263618@lee.bur.adelphia.net.> >I did buy the 2000 TDI and will be picking it up today. Thanks, Lee for >the excellent info on the TDI. I usually just skimmed over the TDI >problems, so now will be paying closer attention. > >Did take it on a test drive last night. Diesels accelerate! It was fun >showing my wife the difference between our old diesel and the TDI. Cool, you'll love the car, Bill. It will make you wish you had got one sooner. Sad to hear of another A2 biting the dust, but such is life. Feel free to ask if you have any questions about the new car and I'll do my best to answer them. I have taken people for a ride and had to work hard to convince them that they were riding in a diesel! :-)) Viva la TDI! Lee Oo-v-oO PP-ASEL KB1GNI From sshourds at flash.net Tue Jan 21 23:08:30 2003 From: sshourds at flash.net (Shalyn Shourds) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Alternator Problems References: <4.1.20030120203238.00a29b80@pop3.inreach.com> Message-ID: <3E2E274E.9030700@flash.net> > > >Appearance wise, the alternator looked like it had been rebuilt in someone's >back yard. > > > Probably looks like mine. That's where I rebuilt it. >I installed the alt and fired up the rabbit. The red light glowed brightly >while idling but went out when the motor was revved. I drove it around for >about 5 minutes and the red light still glowed brightly at idle. > >Second question: Would bad grounds or battery connections cause this behavior? > > > I fooled myself into thinking that my alternator was charging the battery when it did just that one time. Drove for a couple hundred miles at night with the lights on before I realized the error of my ways. In my case, the big wire from the alternator was broken at the terminal lug on the alternator. Since it is a later alternator (A2) it has a ring stud and not the moulded rubber connector. So, yup. Could be. >With the old alt, the voltage was about 12.4 at all engine speeds. The red >light stayed on constantly. With the rebuilt alt, voltage was about 13.4 volts >when the engine was revved and about 12.6 V at idle. > > > For this question, I'd have to know more electrical theory than "Works" or "Doesn't Work", so I'll defer to one of our even smarter and better looking experts. It was about 11:45 pm outside of Corsicanna, Texas when mine broke like that and I couldn't summon the scientific curiousity to pull out the voltmeter. Fixed the broken wire and roll started the car. Drove home. >Third question: Is there a source for bearings and brushes for rebuilding these >alternators? > >TIA > >m alexander >-- > > I was fortunate to find a local alternator shop that was willing to sell me the bearings, brushes, etc. Owner even gave me some very helpful tips on rebuilding the things. Helped that he just didn't rebuild Bosch alternators anymore and wanted to get rid of his last parts, but he was also just a really nice guy. Two other shops in town told me $200. One of those offered to sell the parts instead. For $200. Kind of makes you want to leave a flaming paper bag on their doorstep. With the good shop, I was able to get out the door for $18. Much cheaper than the evil shop. So, check around. Worst they can tell you is that all they'll do is rebuild it. -Shalyn -85 Jetta TD 277,000 mi -65 MB 190Dc, no fresh miles since 1991 From leslieahern at hotmail.com Wed Jan 22 08:04:10 2003 From: leslieahern at hotmail.com (Leslie Ahern) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] more qestions "81 rabbit Message-ID: Thanks for the responses about the crank pulley bolts. They're out!! But I did notice that on the back of the block just below my heater plug is another hole and it had a drop of coolant sitting on it ready to drip. What is this hole?? Should I be concerned?? Also does anyone know how to check the tension on the timing belt?? My book just states to use this VW tool which I don't have or twist the belt between camshaft and fuel pump to 90 degrees. I just want to be sure the tension is correct... it is the timing belt. thanks _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 10:26:59 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Oil Breather kit ?? Message-ID: <76.29075662.2b601243@aol.com> > 2) This one will require you get a different valve cover from your local > yard. VW makes a oil separator that fits in a rubber grommet in the > valve cover(vs a hose that fits on a nipple) It is a four inch so > canister , about 2in tall, which a hose connects to and goes to the > intake. You're not talking about the one on the TD's are you Gary? That's not an oil separator. I've seen a homemade actual separator. Someone on the TDI list did it. There's the site that has the aviation surplus ones that are now $45 I believe, and your local Jeep dealer should be able to order one from the TD Cherokee. It's about $30 as I recall. Loren From jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca Wed Jan 22 09:29:33 2003 From: jhsg at sk.sympatico.ca (James Hansen) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:16 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] more qestions "81 rabbit In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Good you got them out. They can be a real bearcat. Are you sure that the coolant didn't come from the block heater? If the seal between it and the block is failing, as in the little metal bits that do the holding in of said plug from behind are failing, then it will weep. Be sure about this. A weepy block heater is going to fail, just as you are pulling up that long grade in the middle of Nowhere Nevada, and drop all the coolant on the ground, warp a head, blow a headgasket, etc, etc. Timing belt should be just snug enough so you can slide it back and forth across the grooves on the injection pump sprocket, with moderate effort. The engine grows a bit when hot, so it will get tighter when the engine is warm. Don't twist the belt, wrong application. -James > > Thanks for the responses about the crank pulley bolts. They're > out!! But I > did notice that on the back of the block just below my heater plug is > another hole and it had a drop of coolant sitting on it ready to > drip. What > is this hole?? Should I be concerned?? Also does anyone know > how to check > the tension on the timing belt?? My book just states to use this VW tool > which I don't have or twist the belt between camshaft and fuel pump to 90 > degrees. I just want to be sure the tension is correct... it is > the timing > belt. > > thanks > > _________________________________________________________________ > Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > --- > Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 1/6/2003 > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.437 / Virus Database: 245 - Release Date: 1/6/2003 From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 11:36:41 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] 2.5 V6 turbo pressure Message-ID: <109.1f074b04.2b602299@aol.com> > Have run a few test on my A6, seems the constant pressure is at about 1 bar, > but it happily jumps to 1,3-1,5 when punching the accelerator. I guess the > electronics can't adjust the pressure through the wastegate soon enough. > They are supposed to allow higher and lower boost at certain times as I understand. I would think you'd have to put in a reprogrammed chip to raise the boost. I'd honestly expect to see it doing around 1+ bar or even a little over 2 from what I've heard about the TDI's boost characteristics. (Add one bar for absolute pressure.) Our older IDI 1.6's run .7 from the factory and can run close to 1 bar with no problems. > How much constant pressure can I run without (much) danger for the engine? > A matter for speculation. I heard tell of some guy with a 1.6 in a Vanagon that ran a little over 2 bar (30 psi or a little over). I'd expect the TDI to handle upper teens to low 20's in PSI with no problems but I have no direct experience. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 11:58:13 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pump colordots ????. Message-ID: <16b.198fc94e.2b6027a5@aol.com> The original "yellow dot" was just a splotch/smear of the same yellow tamper- tattletale paint that they used on various bolt heads on the pump. It was on the little round timing advance cover, at the bottom of the pump. As they wore off we had to figure out how to identify the "yellow dot" pumps without the yellow dots. Thus the discovery of the 107 A part number. Any other colors are just from someone else marking or putting their anti-tamper tattletale paint on it. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 12:09:23 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] a couple of questions Message-ID: <17.34d85f19.2b602a43@aol.com> > My first question is. Does anyone know how to get brake bleeder valves > open on old VWs open without snapping them off. I in the position where I > have to replace a brake line and then bleed the system. In the past I have > had very little luck getting the old bleeders open with out twisting them off > and then I replace the calipers and brake cylinders. Rear cylinders are so cheap that you may want to replace them anyway. I just use a box end wrench and don't try to get it all at once. A light wrap with your palm is often a good way to start. Then if it's really stiff tighten back up, loosen and so on. Good penetrant and maybe some "blue wrench" if it doesn't want to move. Of course it's only worth the torch on calipers since you're unlikely to get it hot enough to damage the seals, if you're careful. > > Second question. I have a engine and transaxle that I want to switch > to a different car. The car it's going into was a 5 speed and the one I > would be putting in there is a 4 speed. What needs to be done to make that > switch. > One or both of the little snap on with the nylon ends rods are different length between the 4 adn 5 speed. Driver's side mount is also different between the two. The rest should work. Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 12:13:01 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] New to list and question Message-ID: <12d.20c49627.2b602b1d@aol.com> In a message dated 1/20/2003 12:23:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, leslieahern@hotmail.com writes: > Hi. Great list! I have an '81 VW rabbit pickup diesel and i love it. > I need to change the timing belt but I can't get the crank pulley bolts out. > They are stuck in there. Rusted maybe?? The bolts are 6mm hex and I have > already stripped two of them. I'm also working outside here in > Massachusetts and it's about 20F!! Any suggestions?? First is to start out by cleaning out the holes with a small screwdriver or pick. Tap the tool into the fastener snugly and use a rachet driven rather than an "L" wrench. An impact tool hand or air, is a good way to go as well. Once buggered up, I use a chisel and a hammer and rather than cutting a slot into it, drive it around enough to loosen it. They usually will run right out after that. They are indeed 6mm hex/allen and have to come off to get the timing cover off to replace the belt. The big bolt in the center can stay though. :) Loren From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 12:44:53 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Oil Breather kit ? Message-ID: <65.7c5ec51.2b603295@aol.com> > That's exactly what I'm talking about! > > The reason I mentioned this is because the Bentley for my Quantum TD > described it as such... to slow down the velocity of the escaping oil > mist and allow droplets to settle out and fall back into the engine. > > -Gary, Orlando That device is a pressure thing. It has a valve of some sort in it and right now I don't remember which way it works but it's to stop too much blowby going through or such. Velocity goes too high or the wrong way or such and it closes off as I recall. Same thing as the Ford and GM diesels have on them only they're a cad plated can. Maybe VW's slows down the oil migration as well? Loren From h_hagar at prcn.org Wed Jan 22 11:16:37 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Hagar needs help--LOL -again. Message-ID: <000e01c2c24a$fcd85680$1da8fea9@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Having troubles downloading RAW archive to Zip disk ---- Thanks Hagar. -- From nwall at opei.org Wed Jan 22 14:26:39 2003 From: nwall at opei.org (Nate Wall) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Oil Breather kit ? References: <65.7c5ec51.2b603295@aol.com> <1043261944.6310.10.camel@gary.home.5045> Message-ID: <3E2EF06F.84E1D7CC@opei.org> Bentley referrs to it as a "pressure regulator" I fiddled w/ the one on the Jetta many years ago and it in fact did act as a pressure regulator. I'm pretty sure that its purpose is to prevent NEGATIVE crankcase pressure (or a vacuum). The regulator basically restricts reverse flow at an increasing rate as vacuum increases. I believe this to be when at high boost and light load operation. The air flow past where the breather hose is connected to the intake boot causes this pressure drop. The idea is to prevent dirt from migrating past the engine seals due to negative pressure in the crancase. I think I read this somewhere. What's odd, is that the vacuum created by the rush of air past the breather opening would have to be greater than the crancase blowby to create a negative crancase pressure! Now that does seem unlikely! --Nate "Gary, Orlando" wrote: > I had mine apart one day 'cause I was curious. > > It definitely ain't no valve! It just had a few rigid baffles in it. > Maybe being a Quantum, it was an oddball. > > -Gary, Orlando > > On Wed, 2003-01-22 at 12:44, LBaird119@aol.com wrote: > > > That's exactly what I'm talking about! > > > > > > The reason I mentioned this is because the Bentley for my Quantum TD > > > described it as such... to slow down the velocity of the escaping oil > > > mist and allow droplets to settle out and fall back into the engine. > > > > > > -Gary, Orlando > > > > That device is a pressure thing. It has a valve of some sort in it and > > right > > now I don't remember which way it works but it's to stop too much blowby > > going through or such. Velocity goes too high or the wrong way or such > > and it closes off as I recall. Same thing as the Ford and GM diesels > > have on them only they're a cad plated can. Maybe VW's slows down > > the oil migration as well? > > Loren > > _______________________________________________ > > vwdiesel mailing list > > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel > > _______________________________________________ > vwdiesel mailing list > vwdiesel@vwfans.com > http://www.audifans.com/mailman/listinfo/vwdiesel From Travelbike at aol.com Wed Jan 22 14:25:19 2003 From: Travelbike at aol.com (Travelbike@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Oil Breather kit ? Message-ID: <16f.1992131c.2b604a1f@aol.com> Just finished building my homebrew breather kit. USed 2" copper plumbing tube and a an L fitting and soldered them all forming an L about 6" tall. Should have used a U fitting but the L fitting was the only one I had. Hose from valve cover goes to a fitting on end of the U and another hose exits the other U end going to the air intake box. Used about 2" of hose on each end and mounted the box on left hand firewall. Just used plumbing copper pippe/fitting/solder . Left the ends unsoldered just taped together as I may want to put a filter/baffle later on. At the base of the L fitting, I brazed a threaded hole so I can empty any oil that may accumulate inside. Mounted the whole fiixture like the letter V so any oil would flow down to the V apex. Been driving it a few days now and it seems smoke is not as bad as before. Only when you really gun it. Did not put baffles inside the breather box. I might try putting some sort of coarse steel filter or even a bottle cleaning brush as a baffle. ALso extended the air intake tube of the air filter. BOught some flex tubing from Kragen, duct taped it to the end of the filter intake and put the longer intake end on the corner of the front headlight where fresh air can be sucked in. Hope this helps J Gaerlan From h_hagar at prcn.org Wed Jan 22 13:46:45 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Induction motor genset revisited. Message-ID: <001401c2c261$3cf37680$90ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] I am here to learn ---LOL -about VW diesel cars. But I can give my 0.02 d= ollars Canadian --LOL on matters electrical. First there are many types of INDUCTION motors.Why use one instead of prope= r ALTERNATOR ???. They are cheap. Abundantly available surplus military and Industrial items.If you don't min= d a commutation and brushes ---Try a REPULSION motor. They are common in d= ual voltage --110 220---and 2 HP 5 HP etc.I never tried one. In my opinion a 1.5L VW NA diesel would make on nifty standby unit with a = 20 kW 2 pole alternator.60 HZ -----that makes the diesel run contin= uously at 3600RPM. ------ Induction motor ????? you can tell them by the sliprings on the rotorshaft.= --Most common has 2 rings (3 Phase). Hagar. -- From hseaver at cybershamanix.com Wed Jan 22 17:10:06 2003 From: hseaver at cybershamanix.com (Harmon Seaver) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Induction motor genset revisited. In-Reply-To: <001401c2c261$3cf37680$90ccb5d0@prcn.org> References: <001401c2c261$3cf37680$90ccb5d0@prcn.org> Message-ID: <20030122231006.GB30553@cybershamanix.com> On Wed, Jan 22, 2003 at 01:46:45PM -0800, H .Hagar wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > -- > [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] > I am here to learn ---LOL -about VW diesel cars. But I can give my 0.02 dollars Canadian --LOL on matters electrical. > First there are many types of INDUCTION motors.Why use one instead of proper ALTERNATOR ???. They are cheap. Two reasons to use induction motors instead of alternators. First, they're usually a lot cheaper, at least in the used market. But most importantly, if you want to connect to the grid and get paid for the electricity you produce (only if you run the genset on biodiesel, woodgas, or some other renewable fuel) or just run the meter backwards to use the grid as a big battery; using an induction motor vastly simplifies the hook up. Since the induction motor will look at the voltage, waveform, and frequency of the grid and conform exactly to it, you don't need the very expensive and complicated grid intertie that you need for any other type of generation equipment. And lastly, running brushless is not only a lot less maintenance, but it's also more efficient -- less drag and friction. -- Harmon Seaver CyberShamanix http://www.cybershamanix.com From h_hagar at prcn.org Wed Jan 22 17:23:12 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] OLD dieselfuel --OLD geezer --and 3 OLD rabbits. LOL. Message-ID: <001201c2c280$9e90fe20$69ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] 70 + for the geezer 22 for the rabbits ---and many years for the fuel. -----WOW. Fuel is infected and needs medicine ---- price ? 16 OZ bottle about 35 dollars Can plus minus a few bucks. To learn names of microbes go Internet Biobor JF. ----hungry little buggers.LOL. Buggers likes Heat and water and light --- (some breed in the dark) ---So keep fuel in shade and dry ---and as fresh as possible. Feed your Rabbits good food ---it pays. ---Hagar. -- From h_hagar at prcn.org Wed Jan 22 17:38:42 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Induction motor genset correction. Message-ID: <001401c2c280$a077bf80$69ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Should have said ---- 3 sliprings on rotor is 3 Phase. ---- sorry Hagar. -- From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 21:00:11 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] OLD dieselfuel --OLD geezer --and 3 OLD rabbits. LOL. Message-ID: <1a1.f815b85.2b60a6ab@aol.com> > Fuel is infected and needs medicine ---- price ? 16 OZ bottle about 35 > dollars Can plus minus a few bucks. > Dad had a problem with that in his Mercedes. No amount of additive helped. He had to pull the tank and have it chemically boiled out. No more problems after that other than a little loping. Still have to fix that. Loren From h_hagar at prcn.org Wed Jan 22 19:09:59 2003 From: h_hagar at prcn.org (H .Hagar) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps Bosch 107 A --- again.(5000 dollar pump) Message-ID: <001201c2c28d$4e062cc0$93ccb5d0@prcn.org> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. -- [ Picked text/plain from multipart/alternative ] Pump on kitchen floor --on cardboard--completely disassembled by 70 year o= ld hands full of painful joints LOL-----fun fun ---better than rubiks cube = LOL. If the boss shows up from Seattle "Louanne" you people will never h= ear from me again.LOL. Fantastic design --- if I had to make them like that they would have to se= ll for 10 000 dollars can each. Detailed report some other time --- Enclosed find fuelpump Vane type 4 van= es.same speed as shaft. Flyball govenor 4 balls (weights) turning 2 times speed of shaft 2times pl= us a bit. Spur gear drive. Things you can repair no swet ---1. Leaking cold start stubshaft --replace= 2 orings. Leak at throttlearm change "O" ring --- piece of cake. Leaking = shaft seal -some swetting ---its late my movie is coming up soon . ---hav= e fun ---Hagar. -- From LBaird119 at aol.com Wed Jan 22 23:47:29 2003 From: LBaird119 at aol.com (LBaird119@aol.com) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] Injection pumps Bosch 107 A --- again.(5000 dollar pump) Message-ID: <173.1524976a.2b60cde1@aol.com> > Detailed report some other time --- Enclosed find fuelpump Vane type 4 vanes. > same speed as shaft. With my conversation at the diesel pump shop I found some interesting info on these. He was talking about a different pump but new vanes are around $30 when running #2. If you want to run #1, add another $100 or so for vanes made of different material. Loren From bhfarms at suscom-maine.net Thu Jan 23 08:06:46 2003 From: bhfarms at suscom-maine.net (Bill Truesdell) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI list References: <173.1524976a.2b60cde1@aol.com> Message-ID: <3E2FE8E6.7020605@suscom-maine.net> Is there a TDI list? I found Fred's TDI site and it is excellent. I read through my owners manual but leaned more about the car just reading the first page of the FAQ on Fred's site. Going from the old diesel to the TDI is really amazing. My wife is still a bit gunshy about driving since the accident, but when I had to make a left turn into traffic, she was amazed at the acceleration. Great car. Bill T (2000 vw jetta TDI) From TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com Thu Jan 23 07:23:42 2003 From: TexasVWdriver at hotmail.com (TexasTDI) Date: Thu Nov 20 12:03:17 2003 Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI list References: <173.1524976a.2b60cde1@aol.com> <3E2FE8E6.7020605@suscom-maine.net> Message-ID: I also have a TDI and Diesel forum. The link is in my sig. As far a