[Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???

[Fernando Fiore]

My father changed the fuel filter on the Audi 5000, and told me about it.  
He filled the filter up with mystery oil, and started it.  I think it smoked 
a bit, but it ran fine.



Fernando Fiore, "Nando"

84 VW Rabbit Diesel "GTI"
1/4= 21.249 @ 60.95mph

81 Audi 5000S Diesel
1/4= N/A





>From: "Chuck Carnohan" <CCarnoha at itd.state.id.us>
>To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
>Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???
>Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 08:32:09 -0700
>
>I agree that Marvel Mystery Oil is good stuff.  I've used it for many
>years in different applications.  I had a Chev. Vega in College that
>burned oil like an Iraqi.  I would add some Marvel every tank and it
>would greatly reduce the oil consumption.  It is a long lasting
>lubricant for applications that you might otherwise use 3-in-1 oil.  As
>an oil additive it is supposed to do good things as well.  When it burns
>it leaves a white lubricative residue.  However, it does not burn well.
>One can easily overwhelm a gas engine by pouring the stuff in the
>carbruetor.  I have tried it in diesel as an additive as well.  I
>noticed marked reduction in performance and white smoke (Marvel's
>signature).  I'm sure it would be good for the injector pump and the
>valves on occasion. I wouldn't recommend using Marvel with every tank.
>It has it's applications in lubrication and is great to keep around the
>shop!  I doubt that you could fill your pump with it and start the
>engine.  I've never tried it but perhaps Nando will give it a go and let
>us all know!
>
>Chuck in Idaho
>
>Once again, I tell the list what I have used forever, and it does not
>have
>any friction modifiers.  It is available anywhere and it is cheap.
>Marvel
>Mystery Oil.  It has the consistency and color of ATF.  My Audi's pump
>stopped leaking with a dose of it.  Honestly So! (the slogan)
>
>
>
>Fernando Fiore, "Nando"
>
>84 VW Rabbit Diesel "GTI"
>1/4= 21.249 @ 60.95mph
>
>81 Audi 5000S Diesel
>1/4= N/A
>
>
>
>
>
> >From: "Doyt W. Echelberger" <Doyt at NWOnline.Net>
> >To: "Gerry Wolfe" <gerry.wolfe at sympatico.ca>
> >CC: Vwdiesel at vwfans.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] ATF as an additive???
> >Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 11:45:26 -0500
> >
> >Hello Gerry.....I admit to being one of the ATF users, but I don't
> >recommend it, and I don't use it regularly....only about once a year,
>for a
> >specific reason: Several times in the past 3 years my turbodiesel
>injector
> >pump displayed a leak that dribbled fuel out of the little rubber
>nipple
> >that empties the turbo boost enrichment module of the pump (upper right
>top
> >of pump, standing ibn front of bumper facing the engine.)
> >
> >A quart of ATF in the fuel tank caused the gaskets/O-rings/whatever in
> >the
> >pump to swell up enough that the leak totally stopped. The fix lasted
>about
> >a year, and then I had to do it again. So, it is a one-tank trip with
> >whatever unfavorable additives that arrive with the ATF.
> >
> >My injector pump still works after several such fixes, and I haven't
> >had to
> >have it rebuilt yet, which is the only other way I know of to stop a
>leak.
> >I figured that the worst case would be that the ATF wouldn't work and I
>
> >would being paying 300-400 for a rebuild anyhow, so why not try it?
> >
> >I'm sure the fix will only last about a year on my car, and I will have
>
> >to
> >do it again, and I'm not sure how many times the pump will respond in a
>
> >positive fashion to the swelling agent, or how long it will take for
>the
> >friction additives to cause some damage, so the test continues.
> >
> >I will report the results annually.
> >
> >I do admit to using the 2-stroke oil now and then, but more as an
> >experimental thing, just to see if I can detect any benefits.  I have
>been
> >using "PowerServices  DieselKleen + cetane boost" in almost every tank
>this
> >winter. Seems to make the engine start and run a little smoother, or
>allows
> >me to imagine such a result. Who knows? I should probably get a TDI and
>put
> >my poor old Jetta out to pasture. Gad, what an incredible car that has
> >been. It deserves an honorable retirement.
> >
> >Doyt Echelberger
> >Ohio   USA    85 Jetta TD
> >
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >At 10:51 AM 2/10/2004 -0500, you wrote:
> >>I'm seeing people recommending use of ATF as an additive to diesel
> >>fuel...
> >>prob'ly as a "good thing" for the pump and/or injectors.
> >>
> >>My understanding is that ATF contains additive(s) to increase
> >>friction,
> >>prob'ly for the torque convertor or whatever.  Wouldn't this defeat
>the
> >>purpose?
> >>
> >>What about using 2-stroke oil mixed with Stanadyne, equal ratios.
> >>Seems
> >>to me the 2-stroke oil would be a better choice.  Ashless, designed as
>a
> >>lubricant, yadda yadda.
> >>
> >>Just my $0.02Cdn...
> >>G.
>
>
>
>
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