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[Vwdiesel] TDI injectors

David Cook vwdieselbunny at yahoo.com
Wed Apr 13 11:09:42 EDT 2005 

Hi James-

I was just wondering if I could buy the injectors that
were purchased for an '02 Jetta TDI from a list member
to use in the '96 Passat TDI as an alterative to
getting anything from Kerma?

Would those go straight in, or would ECU changes need
to be made?  I guess the break pressure is a tad
higher.

Thanks,

David

--- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:

> Well, if you tell them what they are for, I would
> assume they know what is
> needed... He's been doing this for a long time, and
> well.  However, break
> pressure isn't necessarily slavishly required to be
> the same in all
> instances once you start monkeying with schnozzle
> orfice size flow rate and
> such. Once the nozzles get bigger, you could in
> theory reduce the pressure a
> tad to increase the duration and retard the
> injection pulse initiation point
> to compensate for the shorter injection time the
> bigger holes provide you
> with. Dunno for sure, just speculating... but
> Kerma's the dude to know this
> if anyone does.
> -James
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com
>
[mailto:vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com]On
> Behalf Of David Cook
> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 9:16 AM
> To: diesel list
> Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> 
> 
> Thanks James.
> 
> Yeah, I was looking at the link.  I had originally
> looked at the upgrade nozzles that were actually
> about
> $30 cheaper than the stock replacement ones.  With
> those upgrade nozzles, I'm sure I would need to
> upgrade the settings in the ECU with VAG-COM.
> 
> Now, if those nozzles are sold for all '96-03 TDIs,
> am
> I safe in assuming that injectors that were bought
> for
> a ~'02 Jetta would work on the Passat?  The seller
> (someone on this list) thought their breaking
> pressure
> might be slightly (~10 lb?) higher than on the '96
> Passat's engine.  Said that might actually be
> better,
> with better fuel atomization.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> David
> 
> --- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> 
> > Surely not here:
> >
>
http://www.kermatdi.com/Store.asp?m=KermaTdi&n=14&k=2551&s=How+to+install
> > If it's the stock replacement injectors,
> >
> > You are looking at the link to Fred's webpage I
> > assume.... those
> > instructions are for going to larger injectors, if
> > you use these:
> >
>
http://www.kermatdi.com/Store.asp?m=KermaTdi&n=10&k=107688&s=TDI+Nozzles+%27
> > %2796%2D%27%2703+%28VE+pump%29
> > They are a direct replacement, and require no ecu
> > adjustments.  Only when
> > you get to the bigger ones do you need to change
> > some stuff.  If you want to
> > keep working on TDI's, eventually you will get
> > Vag-Com.  It's really an
> > asset to the toolbox.
> > -James
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Cook [mailto:vwdieselbunny at yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:37 AM
> > To: James Hansen; diesel list
> > Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> >
> >
> > Hmmm-
> >
> > I noticed that the instructions given on that page
> > state that you have to change some things with
> > VAG-COM.
> >
> > I don't have it, and doubt I could talk dad into
> all
> > that...  I might have to look for a set of stock
> > nozzles.  We'll have to see.
> >
> > David
> >
> > --- James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> > > Go here:  http://www.kermatdi.com/
> > >
> > > Choose from these:
> > >
> >
>
http://www.kermatdi.com/Store.asp?m=KermaTdi&n=9&k=10965&s=TDI+Nozzles+%2796
> > > %2D%2703+%28VE+pump%29
> > >
> > > They work very well. Just what you want, install
> > on
> > > a saturday afternoon,
> > > instructions are all on Kerma's pages etc...
> > >
> > > Then if you want to make so much power the stock
> > > clutch will slip when you
> > > walk on the throttle, get a tuning box from
> > Hayden.
> > > It will make you smile.
> > >
> > > -James
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From:
> vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com
> > >
> >
>
[mailto:vwdiesel-bounces+jhsg=sasktel.net at vwfans.com]On
> > > Behalf Of David Cook
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 12:52 PM
> > > To: audi-vw-diesels at yahoogroups.com; diesel list
> > > Subject: [Vwdiesel] TDI injectors
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all-
> > >
> > > My dad says he's been getting about 42 MPG in
> his
> > > Passat, which is okay, but seems a tad low
> (though
> > > it
> > > is probably still winter fuel, so maybe not...)
> > >
> > > With 175,000 miles, I'm wondering if the
> injectors
> > > are
> > > maybe getting worn out, and contributing to the
> > > lower
> > > mileage.
> > >
> > > So, I'm wondering about getting them spiffed up.
> > >
> > > Could I just buy a set of new nozzles, etc and
> > > install
> > > them on the injectors and know that they will be
> > > brought back up the the proper breaking
> pressure?
> > > Or
> > > is there more to it than that?
> > >
> > > It will have to be something that can be done on
> a
> > > saturday afternoon, so removing them and taking
> > them
> > > in to a shop for testing would be difficult.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > David
> > >
> > > David Cook
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> David Cook
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> and others in various states of disrepair
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David Cook
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Red '90 g60 Corrado 
Brown and White '78 Westy Campmobile "Bear"
and others in various states of disrepair
Pictures here: community.webshots.com/user/superdave5599

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