[Vwdiesel] 81 Head Bolts

B & R Decker bdecker001 at centurytel.net
Sat Jun 16 00:45:04 EDT 2007

Hi Rudy;
	The three bolt setups for older diesels that I have seen are 11 mm
non stretch on the 1.5 blocks. 11mm non stretch bolts on the early 1981 1.6
blocks and the 12mm stretch bolts on the later 1.6 blocks. My old VW
mechanic rebuilt over 500 diesels both 1.5 and 1.6. On diesel blocks that
used the 11mm non stretch bolts he used VW Rabbit gas 11 mm stretch bolts
and says they were less prone to blowing head gaskets than the 11mm non
stretch bolts. I believe it is well worth while to pay the tic and Buy
Race-Ware head studs. They are expensive but they are reusable. You can save
a buck or two by reusing your old stretch bolts but don't cry when you blow
a head gasket 1000 miles from home.
Brian Decker

-----Original Message-----
From: vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com [mailto:vwdiesel-bounces at vwfans.com] On
Behalf Of Rudy
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 8:42 PM
To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] 81 Head Bolts

I thought that but the Bolts are also a little different.  Never seen the
combination before.  I'm wondering if they are stretch bolt how bad it would
be to reuse them. 

-----Original Message-----
From: William Longyard [mailto:longyard at ix.netcom.com] 
Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 9:40 AM
To: Rudy
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] 81 Head Bolts

Washers are 9/16th thick?  Maybe aftermarket?

Bill Longyard

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rudy" <petersenrudy at hotmail.com>
To: <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:31 PM
Subject: [Vwdiesel] 81 Head Bolts

>I took the Head off an 81 Rabbit 1.6l engine today, the Head Bolts are 12mm
> threads, 12 point socket head like 12mm stretch bolts but the washers are
> 9/16" thick and they slide right off the Bolt like the 11mm bolts.  The
> threads don't go as high as the later bolts and there is a shoulder to fit
> the washer under the head of the bolt.
> I tried new 12mm bolts and they bottom out before they come tight.
> When I removed them they weren't tight like a stretch bolt, more like an
> 11mm bolt.  I'm wondering if this could be something from VW's transition
> from 11 to 12mm bolts or if this is something to do with the head 
> requiring
> shorter bolts.
> Has anyone seen these before or know if VW made a 12mm thread non stretch
> bolt?
> Rudy
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