[s-cars] Snow tires

Joseph Pizzimenti pizzoman at yahoo.com
Wed Jan 8 12:52:45 EST 2003

As long as we're on the topic, has anyone on list
tried out the Vredestein Wintracs?  They supposedly
are good in the snow while not sacrificing dry
performance.  Anyone btdt?  Similar to a Wintersport
M2 but better on road performance, or so I hear...

--- MLP <mlped at qwest.net> wrote:
> Robert -
> I've been told some real "snow" tires, because of
> snow tread designs,
> while size "specified" the same as a regular or
> performance tire,
> sometimes actually fit "larger" than they seem
> spec'd for.  Only way to
> be sure is to fit the tire to the car.  235/45 and
> the 245/40
> performance sizes are sometimes pushing the limits
> of space, though
> there are those on the list who've found the right
> wheel / tire combo to
> allow them to run 255's without rubbing, .... Much.
> That said, why go with the "performance tire" width
> specification?
> Wider is usually NOT better where snow &/or ice
> conditions are
> concerned.  In fact "thinner is better" is the usual
> rule.  I think you
> can get a 225 in the correct rolling diameter by
> going with something
> like a 50 series aspect ratio.  From my limited
> experience, if you
> decide to consider the narrow can be better idea,
> I'd recommend asking
> about what tire might be thought to have the stiffer
> side wall.  I've
> found the I think there is a big difference between
> Michelin "Pilot"
> Alpin's and their "regular" non "H" rate winter
> Alpin's.
> A lot of past winter tire talk has revolved around
> who's winter snow can
> eat more than anyone else's.  Around here (the
> Colorado front range),
> despite being in alleged snow country, we seem to
> have dry roads 95%+ of
> the time.  I've more interested in that part of the
> winter tire
> performance debate that mentions how little dry road
> performance the
> tire feels it has sacrificed, yet still got a
> "winter" (not just all
> season M&S) rating.  OTOH, when I was driving into
> the high country
> every weekend, I was a lot more focused on stopping.
>  In that case, I
> wanted something a lot more like a studded snow.
> IME, whatever snow
> falls on the interstate, doesn't stay "snowy" for
> long.  It's usually
> polished off ice.
> mlp
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> Iam buying a set of snows, and want to be sure they
> will fit under the
> wheelwells.  Iam looking at the  Dunlop Winter Sport
> M2s in a 235/45 17
> size.  This is going on a Ronal SL 7 1/2x17 35mm
> offset. The car has
> Eibachs with Bilstein Sports.  I was trying to keep
> close to the
> original tire's rolling radius, by buying the same
> size.
> Thanks,
> Robert
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