[Vwdiesel] It's peak oil, duh. [Fwd: Re: Diesel prices]

Erik Lane eriklane at gmail.com
Wed Mar 12 10:22:56 PDT 2008

But isn't the point that the oil from the sand is so hard to extract
that the price would have to be MUCH higher before it was worth it?

As far as how much, it surprises me that it's that much, but I've
never heard an amount, just that it was too difficult to get, at least
with current prices. (Although that was a couple years ago, so prices
have gone up a bit since then...)


On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:12 AM, James Hansen <jhsg at sasktel.net> wrote:
> Maybe not.
>  I have quite a number of friends that work in the oil and gas industry,
>  and not as rig hands either.  Peak oil is a nice concept that sells
>  papers, and generates market response at the commodity exchange level
>  which is usually the desired effect all along, but in reality, it won't
>  be here for quite some time.  QUITE some time.  There is asphaltum
>  galore in the tar sands, more oil than all the developed fields have
>  produced to date around the world. Yeah, that much.
>  Unfortunately, suburbia will be here for quite some time.
>  Perhaps the fear can be used to change usage patterns which would be a
>  triumph unto itself.
>  -james
>  Will Taygan wrote:
>  > In other words: it's peak oil, baby..
>  >
>  > In other other words: everybody wants oil, there ain't enough supply and those with the cash will pay more for it.
>  >
>  > My favorite peak oil film is "The End of Suburbia."  It's well made, and uses petroleum experts and international bankers to make the argument rather than the standard greenies.
>  >
>  > The website is a little hyped up, but the film itself is more reasoned and thought-out.
>  >
>  > http://www.endofsuburbia.com/index.htm
>  >
>  > Maybe your local library has a copy.
>  >
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