[Vwdiesel] Mother ****ing V Belts!!

Bryan Belman dieselwesty at yahoo.com
Thu Jul 7 06:51:25 PDT 2011

Nice Rant Brian, I agree, to change a simple alt. belt you have to take off the 
AC compressor belt and it takes like 2 hours.
Getting the right length is tough as the alt. pulley wears in over 200K miles, 
yes.  I guess that is why Stock Conti. belt size is a bit long for my 92 eco.
You must be from Jersey.  That is the most well known VW parts store in NJ, just 
to bad they are way up in the NW corner of the state, but I guess they ship like 
anybody else, right.

 Bryan Belman, Pt. Pleasant, NJ
04 Jetta Wagon TDI PD, 100hp, 5sp -- running :<)
92 Jetta 1.6 Eco-Turbo Diesel, 5sp -- running :<)
82 Diesel Westy 1.9NA -- running :<)
70 Type 1 stock Elm Green Beetle -- Under Restoration :-) 

From: brian hoeft <qweblog at gmail.com>
To: Dave Cook <davevw at yahoo.com>
Cc: VW Diesel Group <vwdiesel at vwfans.com>
Sent: Wed, July 6, 2011 10:01:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Mother ****ing V Belts!!

Dave Cook'ed: "If I ever get to meet the idiot who designed the belt system
on early watercooled VWs, I am going to punch him in the throat.  What a
piece of s***."

And then I lauged.. Almost posted (or maybe I did) the same sentiment a
while back. In the throat! :HA]

RPM foreign auto in Stanhope NJ 973 448 9440 gets these correct and yes,
Conti belts are a must.

You might also have a failing Alt. tensioner bearing which RPM can get you
too. BTDT, but now I realize that after I've got everything as good as can
be, the only thing left is , of course, the problem, and thats the
alternator pulley itself. would be more suiting for an 11 or 12 mm belt at
this point but the compressor wont do that so I now need to find a NOS
pulley or send away for a custom pulley.

It's lasted since early spring but I got frustrated with the prick bastard
pulley even with the proper locking socket/wrench combo,, couldnt get the
pulley nut off w/o compromising something, so I left it, and [gasp] made 24
"precise" adjustments with one of my vise grips. Yep, mmhm. Belt sat/sits
way better but that trick is unacceptable for the long run, soo anyway,
heads up on that.

& personally, that bottom A/C bolt like most of the other hardware on this V
setup, get tightened more than most any other hardware. Especiallty the
bottom bracket that bolts to the weakest tab on the block,

Alright im about to start ranting, bye!

On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:25 PM, Dave Cook <davevw at yahoo.com> wrote:

> If I ever get to meet the idiot who designed the belt system on early
> watercooled VWs, I am going to punch him in the throat.  What a piece of
> s***.
> I was having all sorts of squealing so I headed down to the Carquest to get
> a couple belts.  When I went to put 'em on, I found that I had lost both the
> alternator pivot bolt, and a bolt at the bottom end of the A/C bracket.
> Well no wonder.
> So I put it together and was still getting some squealing, though less.
> Today I had my buddy come over and we managed to tighten the
> crankshaft/waterpump/AC belt by having him yank up on the alternator belt as
> I tightened bolts.
> Unfortunately, now that the AC compressor is a little bit higher, the
> alternator belt is too long!  So I either have the alternator pushed to the
> upper limit and the belt rubs on the timing belt cover and squeals, or it is
> loose and squeals on the pulleys.  I'm tempted to cut the belt off and just
> keep recharging the battery...
> Obviously the carquest computer thinks I need a belt a little too long.
> So, can someone please tell me where the hell I can get some good belts,
> and the correct size/part number?
> End Rant.
> Dave Cook
> PS, I also put a fitting on and some R134a in the A/C system.  It was
> cooling for awhile, but now the compressor blows a fuse as soon as it is
> plugged in.  I'm wondering if the wiring has been chafed a bit somewhere
> between the compressor and the bracket.  I guess I can dick with that when I
> get some belts in.
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