[Vwdiesel] Towing a Rabbit Pickup by the Front Bumper mounts?

Maynard echomhs at gmail.com
Sun Aug 24 19:22:11 PDT 2014

Here's a link to what the bumper mounts look like:
<< http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1401280>>

Seller will not be able to assist (estate sale). The car is not under power, so it would be pretty difficult to use a tow dolly. If I don't come up with a tow bar solution, I will probably have to call AAA (but I don't have the car registered yet, so I don't think I will get a free tow.)

The angle iron is a good suggestion, although drilling 4 each 1/2" holes through 3/16" steel on site with my battery operated drill is probably not going to work. I could fab the angle iron and mount the brackets in my garage and mill slots in the angle iron and that would probably work.

But I still need some approximate dimension between the holes to create the slots (and probably now need the distance between the centerline of the brackets to create this faux bumper.)


-----Original Message-----
From: pmdolan1 at sasktel.net [mailto:pmdolan1 at sasktel.net] 
Sent: Sunday, August 24, 2014 10:02 PM
To: Maynard
Subject: RE: [Vwdiesel] Towing a Rabbit Pickup by the Front Bumper mounts?

Yeah, did miss that in today's panic (kid getting married next weekend
- household is more than a little crazy this week getting stuff made & ready. 

Sorry only Mk1s here are my Sciroccos.  Trying to get an exact measurement and drill holes where they need to be is a crap shoot.  If you can just use a piece of 2x2 3/16 angle, attah  tow bar to one side and bolt bumper brackets by drilling on site to other, guarantees fit. 
 I would ask the owner for detailed picture - but not sure I would trust to measure. 

Just thinking since I have never taken a pickup apart:  quite possible that being a truck NONE of them have bumper shocks????

On Sun, 24 Aug 2014 21:54:05 -0400, Maynard <echomhs at gmail.com> wrote:
As I said in my original post, this Rabbit Pickup does NOT have the shock-absorbing mounts you discuss. These are solid steel mounts. Are these solid steel mounts year specific or model specific or custom? 
(The latter would surprise me, as the only non-stock item I could find on the truck was the CB radio!)
> In any case, I'm looking for the distance measure between the mounting 
> holes on each mount face. Thanks!
> ~Maynard
> -----Original Message-----
> From: pmdolan1 at sasktel.net [mailto:pmdolan1 at sasktel.net] Sent: 
> Sunday, August 24, 2014 4:01 PM
> To: vwdiesel at vwfans.com; Maynard
> Subject: Re: [Vwdiesel] Towing a Rabbit Pickup by the Front Bumper mounts?
> Absolutely DO NOT tow by the front bumper with this.  The bumper is 
> mounted on hydraulic "shocks" that are net intended for this kind of 
> load (transverse much worse than longitudinal).  You MIGHT get away 
> with it, but if you don't, it is quite a mess when one lets go. The 
> way to do it is make a fitting that is rigid in bending going back to 
> the mounting holes on the frame "accordian" where the bumper absorbers 
> mount.  Weld those two stubs to a tranverse angle or tube to which you 
> can bolt the tow bar adapters.  The pseudo-bumper is critical to 
> prevent the tow bar (that has not cross beam) from
> putting side loads on the bumper mounting points and adapters.   Put 
> the safety chains SOMEWHERE ELSE - such as around a lower control arm 
> and hope to hell you never have to rely on them (the car will whip and 
> slam hard against them at the limit). On Sun, 24 Aug 2014
> 15:32:15 -0400, Maynard <echomhs at gmail.com> wrote:
> I've just struck a deal on a 1981 Rabbit Pickup Diesel LX. I'm hoping 
> to
> > flat-tow it home using the universal adjustable tow bar I already >
> have. It looks somewhat like this:
> >
> >  > 
> > <http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Adjustable-Arms-Chains-5000/dp/B005
> > ES
> > Z058/r
> > ef=pd_sbs_auto_6?ie=UTF8
> > <http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Adjustable-Arms-Chains-5000/dp/B005
> > ES Z058/r ef=pd_sbs_auto_6?ie=UTF8&refRID=1R9VK9S0KE340GBZPXQV>
> > &refRID=1R9VK9S0KE340GBZPXQV>
> >
> >  I've used this tow bar before on older vehicles and I'm confident
> it > will get me where I want to go, but I won't have the luxury of > 
> fabricating the mounting brackets on-site and I'm not going to have > 
> the opportunity to visit the vehicle again prior to picking it up. I
> > know the front bumper is mounted to a pair of bumper mounts using
> two > holes each in the mounts. I think I could mount the tow bar's 
> mounting > plates to these bumper mounts, but I neglected to measure 
> the distance between these holes.
> >
> >  Could somebody measure the distance between these bumper mounting 
> > holes on their own Rabbit and report to me? (I think it's somewhere 
> > around 4"-5", but I need a pretty accurate measure if I want to >
> pre-fab.) It appears that the bumper mounts on this Pickup are solid
> > steel connected to the frame, not the shock-absorbing mounts I had
> on my 1984 Jetta. 
> >
> >  I know I could rent a tow dolly or vehicle trailer, or even call
> AAA, > but none of those options is convenient to my situation. 
> >
> >  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> >
> >  ~Maynard
> >
> > '82 Westy Diesel
> >
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> >
> > '11 Golf TDI
> >
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