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Re: Cheap filters....
Al Powell said:
>> As I still have the old Audi filter off my A4 that I just
>> replaced, I'll have a go at dismantling it & will report back (I can just
>> see the look on my wife face once she see the mess THIS is likely
>> to make!)
>EEEEK!!! Mark, buddy, don't do it!!!!! Even I don't want to be
>blamed for that much mess!!!!!!!! Use a new one and save yourself a
>lot of goo...even if it costs a few bux.
Well TOO LATE. Last night I did it. Got out the hacksaw to my used
Audi oil filter. (What a mess!) Plus I also sacrificed the Fram filter (of
a like size) that I just bought (see my previous post on this matter) and
sliced a piece out out of my thumb - all in the cause of science.
Well, I have to agree with the variuos replies to my previous post. You do
get a better quality product from Audi for your money (though whether it's
worth SEVEN times the price, I'm not sure). In general the Audi filter is
an "engineered" product. The Fram a much cheaper, flimsier, mass-produced
one. The Fram insides remind me of those cheap pressed-steel cars and
airplanes "made in Japan" that we used to get when we were kids in the 60's
(no Japan-bashing intended, please). The inside fitments were of that same
thin gauge pressed-metal etc. More specifically, the differences were:
Audi Filter: Filter itself (inside) made of thin, dense material. Very
tightly pleated, with large surface area. Looked paper-like but
difficult to tell as it was sodden w/oil.
Fram Filter: Filter made of thicker, less dense, paper-like material.
Fewer, more widely-spread pleats.
Audi: Filter end-caps made of heavy-gauge pressed steel crimped around
edges and electro-welded to centre tube.
Fram: Filter end-caps made of cardboard glued on.
Audi: Coil-sprung bypass valve, with fine-mesh, double layer, plastic
Fram: No bypass valve or sieve.
Audi: Coil sprung inlet valve (anti drain??).
Fram: Spiral-cut stamped thin steel spring inlet valve (again, anti
Both: Similar guage metal can. Both seemed to have good, heavy, seal
So, again, the Audi filter definately a better product. But then it's
engineered for a very long interval between oil changes. If you change
your oil at 3K-5K intervals, do you need the heftier filter? I'm not
sure. Comments welcome.