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RE: Audi vs. Jeep
Outback has as much Clearance as the Jeep Cherokee!
Subaru does a lot of off-rad racing in Africa and Outback does a lot
better there than does Jeep.
So I can tell you that Outback will be able to handle any terrain that
Jeep will! It will also be able to outaccelerate and outcorner Jeep on
I would really like to see how you get 22 MPG out of 4.0L truck. When you
get 300K miles out of that Jeep - tell me about it.
Why do you need a 4-lo gear for the outback. It's all automatic there -
the traction is there when you need it.
If you go by magazines, why don't you have a Dodge Cirrus??? Hey, it was
named car of the year by many magazines!
And I'm sorry, but you have a jeep, not a GT-40!
On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Mark Nelson wrote:
> I would like to see an Outback tackle the Rubicon Trail (My Jeep has
> done it)!! 15 mpg??? My average has been 22 mpg (my best was ~29 mpg)
> w/ Mountain driving!!
> As far I am concerned, I won't even consider an Outback. I work w/
> quite a few people who own them, and the ground clearance is not a whole
> lot better than my 5000TQ! Besides there isn't even a 4-Lo gear to
> shift into!
> Everyone I know that owns a Cherokee absolutely loves it (you couldn't
> pry it away from them). The 4.0L I-6 is one of the most bulletproof
> engines ever made and will easily do 300K miles with regular oil changes
> and tune-ups.
> The Cherokee was originally designed by Roy Lund, who (if you are not
> familiar with the name), designed and build the Ford GT-40's that won Le
> Mans. Roy is a good friend of my father's and of Vic Elford (of Le Mans
> fame in the Porsche 917 Long Tail). As far as the SUV market is
> concerned, the Cherokee is the best value for the dollar and it's no
> wonder, since all of the major off-road magazines have named it their
> 4x4 of the year several times!
> To get to the point, an outback just won't cut it, period.
> Best Regards,
> Mark Nelson
> '87 5KTQ
> '91 CQ
> '91 Jeep Cherokee Laredo
> >From: Alexei M Voloshin[SMTP:Alexei.M.Voloshinemail@example.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 1997 10:38 AM
> >To: Mark Nelson
> >Cc: 'firstname.lastname@example.org'; 'Quattro List'
> >Subject: RE: Audi vs. Jeep
> >If you need the clearance, why not buy an Outback??
> >The bad thing about Jeeps is not handling, but their wastefullness!
> >Come on, 15 MPG?
> >The only thing I can imagine one would need a Jeep for is to tow a 1000HP
> >powerboat. But then you don't use too much anyways.
> >On Wed, 22 Jan 1997, Mark Nelson wrote:
> >> Hi Mike, I have a '91 Jeep Cherokee Laredo (lifted) with a 4.0L and I
> >> have to admit I LOVE IT! I also have an '87 5000CS Turbo Quattro with
> >> 180K miles on the OD, and I have a '91 Quattro Coupe that I am building
> >> for SCCA pro-rally racing (open class). Don't get me wrong, I love my
> >> Audis too, but since I live in Lake Tahoe where we get massive amounts
> >> of snow (2 1/2' last night alone and more on the way), I have to admit
> >> that my 5000TQ has a hard time when there is 2 1/2 ' of snow on the road
> >> that has not been plowed, where my Jeep just plows right through it.
> >> Another disadvantage of the Audi is that I cannot go four wheeling way
> >> out into the back country to go camping, where as with my Jeep I can.
> >> Both vehicles are excellent vehicles, and were designed for two
> >> completely different purposes. The Cherokee was not built for
> >> acceleration and speed, where as the Audi obviously was. As far as I am
> >> concerned, I could not live my lifestyle without any of the vehicles I
> >> have. So before you start to bash the Jeep Cherokee, think about the
> >> old analogy of "comparing apples and oranges." I'm sure there are
> >> others on this list as well that have a Cherokee or other SUV that would
> >> also be willing to say when there are times that the Audi just can't do
> >> what the SUV can, and vice versa.
> >> Just my $.02
> >> Best Regards,
> >> Mark Nelson
> >> Incline Village, Nevada
> >> '87 5KTQ
> >> '91 CQ (building for SCCA pro-rally)
> >> '91 Jeep Cherokee Laredo (snow beast)
> >> >From: Michael J Myers <email@example.com>
> >> >Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:05:40 -0600 (CST)
> >> >Subject: Audi vs. Jeep
> >> >
> >> >My mom rented a Jeep Cherokee with the 4.0L engine while her car is being
> >> >worked on. I drove it earlier today. Punched it down in two wheel
> >> >drive, got sideways, 4 high, sideways again. Drove around town a bit.
> >> >Brought it back after 15 minutes and told my mom she can have it back.
> >> >Piece of.... Took my Audi out afterwards, accelerated harder and
> >> >straight as an arrow, rode and handled ten times better... Love my
> >> >Audi. Hmmm, imagine what kind of Audi I could get for the value of an
> >> >'94 Cherokee with 32K miles on it...
> >> > -Mike