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Re: Checking on a chip.

On Tue, 27 Feb 1996 GCIRILLO@aol.com wrote:

> I found an on-line posting by a guy selling a "used" BBR Star Chip for the NA
> 20Valve engine.  It seems intriguing.  I would never buy one at retail
> because I know the benefits are not significant.  But, if I can get one
> cheaply, why not?

Hey, is this the original post that got everyone's pantyhose in a knot?  
I never saw the original, just responses to it.

> The seller indicates that the print on the chip is as follows: 
> 201743
> 20VMOD4
> AUDI2.320V

It would seem that this is a 20valve chip.  Since the 20 valve engine is 
ELCTRONICALLY injected instead of the archaic CIS mechanical system, it 
is quite possible to get substantial gains from this chip both in the 
fuel delivery and the ignition advance curves.  Then again, it might just 
be a ripoff of the Superchips chip. (sorry. I just had to...:-)

> 2.  What would be a fair offer ($100?).

I would offer 50-75 to start.  Also, if you want to verify whats on the 
chip, there are a few of us on the Quattro list that have the resources 
to read both your stock chip, and the new chip, and see if there really 
is a difference.

> 3.  Any ideas on how to safely buy it long distance?  I can obviously
> post-date a check and stop payment if necessary.

Try that, but the seller prolly won't like it at all.  You'll have to 
talk to him and find out how amiable he is.  The actual chip is worth 10 
bucks at the most but the knowledge of what BBR has done might be worth 
the 100 investment.

> 4.  Is it a self-install job?  I remember once checking out Audi chips and
> finding out that I had to send in my CPU.  

What car do you have?  The 10 valve ECU usually does require sending in 
to the chip company.

Let us know what you find out.

Graydon D. Stuckey								
Flint, Michigan   USA
'86 Audi 5000 CS Turbo Quattro, GDS Racing Stage II				
'85 Mazda RX7 GS 12A-leaning-towards-a-13B-soon